Do you really believe the Saints will finish in the 8 in 08?

[NeXus_Helen]

Seriously, do you? Take off those rose-coloured-glasses just for a couple of minutes and answer this question honestly. Do you really think we are finally over our injury curse? Do you really think Gardiner and King are the answer to our rucking woes?

The Saints have been on the decline for 2 years now, plus we just had a stack of retirements. If you take out our 10 game winning streak at the start of 2004, we are just barely winning 50% of our games.

My predicted finish for 2008 is 10th to 14th.

[Oh When the Saints]

In 2007, the ladder from Rounds 11-22 looked like this:

Geelong
Port Adelaide
St Kilda

We were the #3 team in the AFL in that period, and had we kicked 7 more goals, we would have won 11-0.

They are facts.


Who have we lost from that period? Only Gehrig.

St Kilda - Gehrig (50 goals) + Schneider (30 goals) = -20 goals.

So we've got to find another 20 goals from somewhere. Pretty safe bet that Kosi at FF will kick most of those.

+ We add Steven King, who is fit for the first pre-season in 3 years.


IMO without rose-coloured glasses, we are ranked 5th-9th in the AFL.

[NeXus_Helen]

Looking purely at the stats, we won 7 and had 1 draw in the last 11 rounds of 2007. But if you look a little closer you will notice a very bad tendancy to crash in the second half of games. From memory, just to name 3 there was the Carlton game, bulldogs and even the Eagles game we gave up a big quarter time lead but I must admit we did go down fighting in that one.

Another game that springs to mind is the Richmond game. We were all over the place in that one. Those last half fadeouts in my opinoin could become a huge problem in 2008. Let's hope not.

[dan warna]

the folks in Saintsational are a fractious lot, lobby for and against timmid, for against ben cousins, for and against GT, for and against Rossy lyon, for and against John Howard, for and against blake, etc etc. but pretty much not one person was sad when you got banned.

I can't think of one person that spoke up for you, not one.

i bet you were absolutely crushed when we made the finals in 04, 05, and 06, and were absolutely rapt when we lost to port, sydney and melbourne.

I bet you were absolutely creaming yourself when we did't make the finals in 07.

you really are a sad sack Nexus.

[goodie23]

I'd suggest a drinking game involving Nexus using the phrase 'rose coloured glasses', but I suspect even an Irish dockworker would be drunk after two threads.

And yes I do

[Red Gum]

Seriously, do you? Take off those rose-coloured-glasses just for a couple of minutes and answer this question honestly. Do you really think we are finally over our injury curse? Do you really think Gardiner and King are the answer to our rucking woes?

The Saints have been on the decline for 2 years now, plus we just had a stack of retirements. If you take out our 10 game winning streak at the start of 2004, we are just barely winning 50% of our games.

My predicted finish for 2008 is 10th to 14th.

Nexus Helen = worst Saints fan ever!

The point has been made about our strong finish to 07. Our recruiting has been great. (King, C.Gardiner, Schneider, Dempster for Picks 26+90). Backroom changes and a settled coach in his second year with a group he knows and has started to shape.

Rose coloured glasses or no I reckon 4-6th.

[Persevering Saint]

Ah, NH, how I've missed you - I'm amazed that it only took you six words after ages of not being here (were you red-carded again?) before you mentioned "rose-colored glasses." Do us a favor, find a way of starting a thread with "Rose-colored glasses" as the very first words you use... I dare you - c'mon, you can do it.

As for your points, you've made them over and over and over and over again. If you're going to bag the team, at least find an original way of doing it.

So how many games into the 2008 winning streak will it take before you renew your membership?

[35Harvs]

Seriously, do you? Take off those rose-coloured-glasses just for a couple of minutes and answer this question honestly. Do you really think we are finally over our injury curse? Do you really think Gardiner and King are the answer to our rucking woes?

The Saints have been on the decline for 2 years now, plus we just had a stack of retirements. If you take out our 10 game winning streak at the start of 2004, we are just barely winning 50% of our games.

My predicted finish for 2008 is 10th to 14th.

NH, do you really think someone like Misson is worse than what we've had previously? I've read your posts before & you keep referring to Sydney's miraculous injury run ... how do you think that happened? God just decided to smile down on the Sydney Swans?

Well, I'll take King & Gardiner over Knobel & Ackland any day of the year - so yes it is an improvement as to where we've been.

Stack of retirements? Granted, Gehrig is a loss. Hamill has barely played for 2 years ... Thompson/Voss were not regular players this year.

So, other than stating we're all wearing rose coloured glasses - do you think you could actually articulate why you think we'll be so woeful next year? I really am interested!

[LTN16]

I think we should if we have a good run with injurys:thumbsu:

[Vaul Darkhour]

why do people even reply to these posts?!

[dan warna]

NH may have some points however while many hope for the best, an injury free season, a return from risky investments etc, NH seems to enjoy every failure.:mad:

[bubblegoose]

What will you do if we do?

[Bourky23]

i'm starting to feel more and more confident about the upcoming season.. i initially thought we'd struggle

[huggy_b]

Getting Goddard back will be like a new recruit, we will more than likely have someone to provide an honest contest in the ruck, Kosi is more than an equal replacement for G Train at FF and we had a few good signings in the trade period. Given we finished just outside the 8 last season, I think we are a good shot to make the 8.

[Fred]

I'd be amazed (and disappointed) if they didn't make the 8.

[Oh When the Saints]

Looking purely at the stats, we won 7 and had 1 draw in the last 11 rounds of 2007. But if you look a little closer you will notice a very bad tendancy to crash in the second half of games. From memory, just to name 3 there was the Carlton game, bulldogs and even the Eagles game we gave up a big quarter time lead but I must admit we did go down fighting in that one.

Another game that springs to mind is the Richmond game. We were all over the place in that one. Those last half fadeouts in my opinoin could become a huge problem in 2008. Let's hope not.

The flipside is that for 12 weeks in a row, we were level with every side we played in the last quarter of every game.

Ergo, we had a chance of winning every game for 12 weeks in a row. I can't remember us doing that too often since the back half of '05.

Fadeouts largely due to fitness IMO - which with Misson on board will hopefully improve.

[mad-saint-guy]

We should make the 8. I'm not saying that we will, but we should be good enough to make the 8.

I don't expect us to suddenly be completely injury-free and for King and Gardiner to dominate the ruck, but if we can get Goddard back for most of the year and keep the likes of Hudghton, Riewoldt and Koschitzke fit then we should make the 8.

The most concerning thing for me is our list management. We've lost quality players from 2004-2005 in Gehrig, Jones, Powell, Penny, Peckett, Black, Guerra and Thompson and just replaced them with ordinary depth-players. Gilbert and Gram are the only above-average players that have come into the side over the past two years. Hopefully we will be able to add Schneider to that list, but we just have too many GOPs. Not enough guns, not enough kids, too many in between. We've delisted a bunch of kids who never had the chance to prove themselves yet we hang on to a mass of players who continually have no impact when they are played.

I just find it hard to see where the big improvement will come from. Kosi replaces Gehrig at FF, but then we lose Kosi from the ruck and desperately hope that King and Gardiner get fit (which they haven't been since the early 00's). It is very likely that we will again see Rix and Blake heading our ruck division. I really don't expect our 2008 to be much different from 2007.

[ChrisFooty]

St.kilda with a perfect injury run will finish as high as 10th in 2008 - Comedy.

Nexus, didn't you once said on here that St.kilda will be at Carlton/Richmond's level. That was a beauty. In answer to your question, yes, i do believe the saints wil lmake the eight next year. With a decent injury run, i would say around 3rd-6th.

[Kildonan]

MSG there is no big improvement necessary.

We were quite close to being "there" 2004, 2005, 2006 and the second half of 2007.

This is remarkable given that we had a new coach in 2007.

The players have now had a year to bond with the coaching staff.
They now have reached a level of trust and understanding that allows them to go that step further.

For the first time in ages we are going into a preseason with very few injured players. Players like Hayes, King and Maguire should be ready to really trust their body again. New players from other clubs are eager to show their wares - trying to earn a spot - helping push other settled players into higher effort just to retain their spot.

The question marks:

Brendan Goddard - No. 1 draft recruit 2002, 5th St K Best and Fairest 2006, best kick in the team, future captain.
Luke Ball - No. 2 draft recruit 2001, St K Best and Fairest 2005, runner up St K Best and Fairest 2004, All Australian midfielder 2005, Captain 2006
Michael Gardiner - No. 1 draft recruit 1996, All Australian ruckman 2003

Plenty of upside in getting these guys back to their best ;)

[Squizzy1970]

Last year (pre-season) most had us pushing for Top 4. This did not recognise that we had issues with leg speed and depth, and a new coach who would need some time. I am much more excited about our prospects with some of the deficiencies addressed. Dempster and C Gardiner may not be in our best 22, but they provide better depth than our 37th and 38th player of last year. Armitage and Allen will now be in the mix, along with Goddard as a recruit (as was raised by someone else). King and Schneider will be good, and we hope that Gardi (if he wants to be called "The Big Show", I will start calling him "The Big Girl") comes up and Kosi stays fit.

[NeXus_Helen]

St.kilda with a perfect injury run will finish as high as 10th in 2008 - Comedy.

Nexus, didn't you once said on here that St.kilda will be at Carlton/Richmond's level. That was a beauty. In answer to your question, yes, i do believe the saints wil lmake the eight next year. With a decent injury run, i would say around 3rd-6th.

Yes, I did say that and I stick to it. I will even go one step further, one of Carlton or Richmond will finish higher than us.

[ultimate hater]

Yes, I did say that and I stick to it. I will even go one step further, one of Carlton or Richmond will finish higher than us.

but we can't finish lower than 15th and 16th respectively...?

[foxy_dal]

persnally i rate Rossy Lyon at this stage and i can definently see us making the 8. Getting a decent ruckman on the field and replacing gehrig will be the key i believe. Would love for 2008 to be the year just purely for harvs.

[NeXus_Helen]

persnally i rate Rossy Lyon at this stage and i can definently see us making the 8. Getting a decent ruckman on the field and replacing gehrig will be the key i believe. Would love for 2008 to be the year just purely for harvs.

Problem solved, we replaced Gehrig with Gehrig.:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::D

[Ice-Wolf]

Problem solved, we replaced Gehrig with Gehrig.:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::D

So Nexus with Gehrig potentially back where will we sit now?

[Gaz_Brownlow]

So Nexus with Gehrig potentially back where will we sit now?

First and foremost - Charlie Gardiner is not a ruckman, dont know where this one has come from. He is a good standard VFL player, and a fringe AFL player.

King is a gun and will be serviceable, imagine though that having to burden the sole rucking duties like he did with Geelong, he will get injured again.

Your midfield is overrated, Goddard was soft to start with and will probably take another 12 months to fully get over his knee problems. Harvey and Hayes are great players but they are not attacking midfielders, more Shane Crawford types who will get lots of the ball but never really impact a game to the extent of the Kerr's, Abletts, Harvey's etc...

Any forward line reliant on a player who has hardly even played there (Kosi) is a major worry. I keep looking for Milne in any big game, but never can seem to find him? Charlie will be a good addition, but he is hardly revolutionary.

Backline, well, this leaves a lot to be desired....again McGuire is solid but there is no real drive off the backline...Fisher is maybe a key link, but i would expect him to be marked very closely next year given his success in 2007.

I personally think the saints will crash and burn a bit in 2008. Too many ordinary players and not enough promise coming through. I think the window is closing fast with too many other teams becoming stronger.

Riewoldt is still a gun though!

[Ice-Wolf]

First and foremost - Charlie Gardiner is not a ruckman, dont know where this one has come from. He is a good standard VFL player, and a fringe AFL player.

Who said he was we have another Gardiner you know.

[Gaz_Brownlow]

Who said he was we have another Gardiner you know.

Yeah fair point, forgot about Michael Gardiner....

That changes everything... a former west coast junkie with a buggered knee and a crap foot who hasn't played in 3 years. If he can even get off the ground i would be suprised...

Still, King is still a gun...can't believe we gifted him to you!

[Ice-Wolf]

Yeah fair point, forgot about Michael Gardiner....

That changes everything... a former west coast junkie with a buggered knee and a crap foot who hasn't played in 3 years. If he can even get off the ground i would be suprised...

Still, King is still a gun...can't believe we gifted him to you!

2 good feet we had them fixed.

[ChrisFooty]

Yes, I did say that and I stick to it. I will even go one step further, one of Carlton or Richmond will finish higher than us.

Classic!:D

[carmi99]

Saints to finish anywhere from 4th-10th depending on injuries.

[Axcellence]

I initially had booked the saints between 10th to 14th.

Given the change of players - I would say, we're back in the top 8. Too many things going back in our favour -

- Gehrig's back. He was awful against the bulldogs last time. He looked absolutely disinterested. Surely, this return can very likely mean he wants to change all of that. He's retired, seen what's life like after retirement - and realised it wasn't pretty (or what he thought it might be). Just to show the attitude change, he was supposedly coming back after christmas - he now wants to come back ASAP (confirmed!).

- Steven King & Adam Schneider smoothen the rough edges around the team. If Gardiner also plays, Kosi will go forward.

- Charlie Gardiner, Sean Dempster - add depth.

- Goddard & Maguire will be back for majority of the season and should provide sufficient cover for loss of Attard for next season & baker for first 5 rounds.

- Sam Gilbert should bolster his position.

- Armitage & Geary would have had 1 year's development into them.


Basically, if you read the top 22 per this link, as well as the depth,

http://saintsational.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38588

(move back blake in for bakes for 5 rounds), the top 22 seems quite mature and be primed for even top 4!

(As a sidenote, the additions result in moving of jones & birss to 2nd list of 22, which is where they belong right now)

The reason it might be just top 8 might be because of long term injuries, Max's body, risk of Goddard, Maguire, Ball, M Gardiner, Gehrig and Harvey (yes, yes, :eek::eek::eek:, but you have to think about hamstrings - Buckley had to retire a good player with a gone body), ross lyon's gameplan vs current personnel & the rest of it.

So yes, big tick to Ross Lyon for getting rid of no hopers off the list, i.e.
raymond, sweeney, BROOOKS, WATTS, McQualter. This cleared out the list for better personnel to come in!! Ferguson, Rix & Gwilt should be next in line if they don't perform. What I also like is, he's put X & Raph on notice - x got only a 1 year contract, and this year, x & raph start pre season without major injury concerns. Either they'll improve or they'll depart.

[NeXus_Helen]

So Nexus with Gehrig potentially back where will we sit now?
It's great news regarding Gehrig. If he can play all 22 games then I can't see us finishing any lower than 12th. Hopefully we can get into the 8 but I'm still doubtful. Predicted finish (revised due to Gehrig).....9th - 12th.

[BrianSpeaking]

It's great news regarding Gehrig. If he can play all 22 games then I can't see us finishing any lower than 12th. Hopefully we can get into the 8 but I'm still doubtful. Predicted finish (revised due to Gehrig).....9th - 12th.
Stop referring to US. It is quite clear you are not a Saints supporter, so drop off the Saints forum and crawl back under whatever rock you reside.

[NeXus_Helen]

Stop referring to US. It is quite clear you are not a Saints supporter, so drop off the Saints forum and crawl back under whatever rock you reside.
I have been a football club member for nearly 25 years. A social club member for 10 years. A reserved seat holder since we moved to Telstra Dome. My 2 kids are members as well.

[FredNurks]

That is fantastic that you have been a fully paid up member handing over the money each year which begs the question. WHY do you constantly have a myopically pessimistic view. being a relatively new member to the bigfooty community your pessimism astounds me. we all know the history of the St Kilda football club but if you can't be cautiously optimistic about the upcoming season at this time of year you should seriously consider taking up tiddlywinks. i have to wonder how such an overtly pessimistic member could sit down and enjoy a game of football. without knowing you , you do sound like one of those eat there own Richmond supporters.

we all support the mighty saints even if at times it is through rose coloured glasses

[Qsaint]

I'd be amazed (and disappointed) if they didn't make the 8.

Top 4.

[MrMalteser]

I Agree Totally Top 4

[MrMalteser]

i will go one further and say

geelong vs st kilda grand final

[Carlton_Blues]

I think the G-Train will get you over the line into the top 8 next year. He is every defenders nightmare!

[NeXus_Helen]

That is fantastic that you have been a fully paid up member handing over the money each year which begs the question. WHY do you constantly have a myopically pessimistic view. being a relatively new member to the bigfooty community your pessimism astounds me. we all know the history of the St Kilda football club but if you can't be cautiously optimistic about the upcoming season at this time of year you should seriously consider taking up tiddlywinks. i have to wonder how such an overtly pessimistic member could sit down and enjoy a game of football. without knowing you , you do sound like one of those eat there own Richmond supporters.

we all support the mighty saints even if at times it is through rose coloured glasses
This site and Saintsational has made me more reallistic regarding St.kilda. It shits me when every year you see posts saying we will win the flag or, definately top 4. It's totally stupid. For Christ sake, we need to be more reallistic. We don't want to be like the filth supporters do we?

If we make the top 8 next year I will be pleasantly surprised. I reckon around 10th to 12th.

[St DAC]

Put it this way NH, I don't believe we have any excuses for NOT making the 8 in 2008. In 2007 we had a very slow start due to fitness and form; this coming season all supporters should expect a top 8 finish. After that, who nows? Geelong have proven this year that a lot of footy is between the ears; if they can reverse their fortunes from 2006 why not us as well? We have a similar quality team ... certainly on form over the past 5 years or so.

[ChrisFooty]

If we miss the eight in 2008, Ross Lyon may feel a little heat.

[sainter35]

First and foremost - Charlie Gardiner is not a ruckman, dont know where this one has come from. He is a good standard VFL player, and a fringe AFL player.

King is a gun and will be serviceable, imagine though that having to burden the sole rucking duties like he did with Geelong, he will get injured again.

Your midfield is overrated, Goddard was soft to start with and will probably take another 12 months to fully get over his knee problems. Harvey and Hayes are great players but they are not attacking midfielders, more Shane Crawford types who will get lots of the ball but never really impact a game to the extent of the Kerr's, Abletts, Harvey's etc...

Any forward line reliant on a player who has hardly even played there (Kosi) is a major worry. I keep looking for Milne in any big game, but never can seem to find him? Charlie will be a good addition, but he is hardly revolutionary.

Backline, well, this leaves a lot to be desired....again McGuire is solid but there is no real drive off the backline...Fisher is maybe a key link, but i would expect him to be marked very closely next year given his success in 2007.

I personally think the saints will crash and burn a bit in 2008. Too many ordinary players and not enough promise coming through. I think the window is closing fast with too many other teams becoming stronger.

Riewoldt is still a gun though!


Bookmarked Gaz.

Give me an injury run like your lot last year nd personally Id be very happy to tackle Geelong anyday of the week.

Best remember this overrated midfield hasnt had a ruckman for 5 years to work for it.....unlike Bartel/Abblet.......and still up till this year had the wood on the cats.....

[Squizzy1970]

We don't jump up the pecking order just becuase Gehrig is back. He monstered some inferior sides last year and didn't perform against the better backmen.

However, M Gardiner, Goddard, Allen, and Ball are all effectively recruits due to injury and our depth is much better with King & Schneider.

We are also into the second year of Ross Lyons tenure - so no excuses in adjusting to the gameplan.

However, to finish Top 4 you need a lucky run with injuries and I believe there is a link between the Dome surface and the soft tissue problems we have encountered. 5th-8th for mine.

[Half Back Pocket]

I believe we are still in for another year of change (several more retirements - thats 18 players off our list since 2006 season! - and a further year of Lyon setting up his own style of play, plus a swag of new recruits to fit into that style)

However, our core group of senior players is the best in the comp (with Geel), and are all still relatively young (at least, reaching their prime).
When you add in quality, experienced recruits...we've got a pretty good list.

I reckon just below a prelim next year....but with a huge push for the flag in '09

p.s. - when Frase plays Geelong, WCE and Adelaide, he should be made to go and stand on the boundary line on the wing all game...he just loses interest against those 3 quality full-backs.

[Fehring]

Your midfield is overrated, Goddard was soft to start with and will probably take another 12 months to fully get over his knee problems.

Backline, well, this leaves a lot to be desired....again McGuire is solid but there is no real drive off the backline...Fisher is maybe a key link, but i would expect him to be marked very closely next year given his success in 2007.


So Goddard plays in the midfield, does he?

No drive off the backline eh? S Fisher, L Fisher, J Gram, Gilbert and....ahem....Goddard. Not enough for ya?

[Squizzy1970]

Agree - Dunno about Leigh Fisher though! Opposition sides nullified Gram in some games, but Sam Fisher and Gilbert rebounded all year long. Dempster is another who can run and may release Gram upfield this year.

Gaz Brownlow - don't you like the Geelong blog site? I was not Goddard's greatest fan for a while there, but he was flying towards the end of "06 and in '07 before he got injured.

[Look2Me4Guidance]

So Goddard plays in the midfield, does he?

No drive off the backline eh? S Fisher, L Fisher, J Gram, Gilbert and....ahem....Goddard. Not enough for ya?


Spot on Fehring. I guess when your team wins the premiership it gives you the right to comment on every facet of every other team. Bit hard calling a player like Goddard soft when Nathan Ablett could very easily be one of the sofest players to ever win a premiership medallion.

If Gilbo can get his disposal right, he'll be more damaging than my man Lou Gram I feel.

Saints would have to seriously underachieve to miss the 8 in 2008. Keep the cattle on the park and have players in form Top 4. Our attack on paper, particularly with the addition of the Schneiderman has to be one of the most difficult to match up, especially if Kosi gets down there.

SEASON 2008, JUMP ON EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!

[35Harvs]

Spot on Fehring. I guess when your team wins the premiership it gives you the right to comment on every facet of every other team. Bit hard calling a player like Goddard soft when Nathan Ablett could very easily be one of the sofest players to ever win a premiership medallion.

definitely the softest in recent times.....

can't wait till 2008!!!

[Red Gum]

So Goddard plays in the midfield, does he?

No drive off the backline eh? S Fisher, L Fisher, J Gram, Gilbert and....ahem....Goddard. Not enough for ya?
well said. Gram had a quieter 07 because he shone in 06 and teams came to close down his run. Then what happened? Goddard and Fish stepped up. Goddard gets injured so Gilbert steps up. Fish or Gilbert have to mark talls to cover injuries and Gram or even L Fisher start getting forward. Our drive from our backline, and their link play with Roo is about our strongest aspect I reckon.
If those names you list are all fit and well there'll be great competition for spots and tremendous drive off the HB line.

[Molky Saint]

No way. Too many injuryu probs already bad recruiting and just dont know what to make of gehrig. At best he seems halfhearted. Probably a bit lower than this year:thumbsd:

[panthers]

No way. Too many injuryu probs already bad recruiting and just dont know what to make of gehrig. At best he seems halfhearted. Probably a bit lower than this year:thumbsd:



:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[ChrisFooty]

No way. Too many injuryu probs already bad recruiting and just dont know what to make of gehrig. At best he seems halfhearted. Probably a bit lower than this year:thumbsd:

Those few injury problems can't be used as a relaible predictor for what will happen in 2008. If our injury run is like R12-R22 this year, we will easily make the finals.

[NeXus_Helen]

Do you remember when I posted this back on the 20th November 2007, 12:20. I think a lot posters should apollogise for the abuse hey hurled at me.

Go on and read all the posts in this thread, very interesting reading.

[NeXus_Helen]

St.kilda with a perfect injury run will finish as high as 10th in 2008 - Comedy.

Nexus, didn't you once said on here that St.kilda will be at Carlton/Richmond's level. That was a beauty. In answer to your question, yes, i do believe the saints wil lmake the eight next year. With a decent injury run, i would say around 3rd-6th.
Yes, I did say that.

[Armitage2Riewoldt]

I think the G-Train will get you over the line into the top 8 next year. He is every defenders nightmare!

:thumbsu:

[ChrisFooty]

Do you remember when I posted this back on the 20th November 2007, 12:20. I think a lot posters should apollogise for the abuse hey hurled at me.

Go on and read all the posts in this thread, very interesting reading.

Why apollogise? The Saints will smash Melbourne.

[HoldenMCaulfield]

Do you remember when I posted this back on the 20th November 2007, 12:20. I think a lot posters should apollogise for the abuse hey hurled at me.

Go on and read all the posts in this thread, very interesting reading.

interesting reading indeed...

I found a few more interesting posts:

on 25 February 2008:


Can the Saints replicate the winning streak of 2004?

Actually I think they can better it.

Thoughts?
on 22 March 2008:


If we have a decent run with injuries we will finish top 4. Whether we win the flag or not I have no idea. Time will tell.

If St.kilda became the Gold Coast Saints I would still follow them!!!!! If they then went on to win 3 premierships in a row I would be partying long and hard which is what you should have done when the Lions won 3 in a row. Don't forget, they are half of Fitzroy and they are still the Lions.

You covered yourself for everything, didn't you ?

My favourite (on 14 March 2008):


St.kilda is where they are because of Thomas.

oh the irony of this post...

[sainter]

Good stuff Dominique! :D

[bubblegoose]

Oh my Dominique, what's this you've found?

[St DAC]

I think a lot posters should apollogise for the abuse hey hurled at me.

Nope. You're still a trolling flog and should crawl back into you hole ASAP. Preferably, you'll never emerge from it again.

[bubblegoose]

Nope. You're still a trolling flog and should crawl back into you hole ASAP. Preferably, you'll never emerge from it again.

http://bp0.blogger.com/_bY-Gu4Mr7eU/RnvuywrIfdI/AAAAAAAAAWc/qfIGfLQgkX4/s1600/applause.gif

[goodie23]

Nope. You're still a trolling flog and should crawl back into you hole ASAP. Preferably, you'll never emerge from it again.
Took the words right out of my mouth

[Monika72]

I've got a feeling that we will finish 9th again. We will be the Tigers of the 00's. How can anyone say that we can make the finals when the worst team in the league is Melbourne and we are neck and neck in the betting.

[NeXus_Helen]

interesting reading indeed...

I found a few more interesting posts:

on 25 February 2008:

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on 22 March 2008:

[/font]

You covered yourself for everything, didn't you ?

My favourite (on 14 March 2008):

[/font]

oh the irony of this post...
You guys are really grasping at straws now aren't you? I was taking the Mickey out of you all by saying the Saints were a top side!! I have been telling you now for ages that the Saints are finished as a power but if you want to hang your hat n those posts go ahead.

[ChrisFooty]

I've got a feeling that we will finish 9th again. We will be the Tigers of the 00's. How can anyone say that we can make the finals when the worst team in the league is Melbourne and we are neck and neck in the betting.

Get on the Saints. Good value.