Come on Weaver .. Fess Up

[IDGAF]

Give us your thoughts ... you know you want to

Still LMAO @ you nearly taking to the punt rd. Stands with a flame thrower last year over Jack Riewoldt .

I know that you find it hard to be openly positive and exuberant on these boards at times but i suspect you would be walking around like a half open pocket knife at the minute :D

How do you think we went ol` son ?

[Weaver]

I have the same concern as many about whether Cotchin will do the work to make himself into a midfielder. Great talent but even Nathan Brown, while a match-winner, is something of a luxury in a team that can't win clearances. Cotchin is brilliantly gifted and could survice on natural ability alone but I have seen too many Hiltons and Pettifers not make the move to midfield.

For mine Cotchin v Morton v Krezuer v Palmer is pretty lineball. I'd rate them all about the same TODAY. And have that group on a tier above any of the others. For all that I still think Chris Masten will be the best of the top-10.

So happy enough - just not wheeling around flinging my arms about with flowers in my hair singing Peace Train.

Rance is very good. Nut just a good player but a perfect complement to Thursfield. The guys Rance can't handle, Thursty will, and vice-versa. They look a great little team within a team. I rated Rance highly and have previously stated I would have been tempted to summon-up all my courage and take a flyer on him as early as 5 or 6.

Putt I had going to us at 18. To get Rance instead and still get Putt is a great result.

I also rate McMahon and Mitch Morton. Certainly both are better than anything else we would gave gotten after 30.

Pfeiffer I'd like on the rookie list. Hopefully we avoid Howat. Pfeiffer can play that role at least as well.

I still think we need an insurance ruckman in the PSD and can't think of one other than Richards which is the only downside to the whole trade/draft period so far.

Also need a small goalsneak who can rove goals and I want Joe Gazzo but it won't happen.

[Tigerbob]

I have the same concern as many about whether Cotchin will do the work to make himself into a midfielder. Great talent but even Nathan Brown, while a match-winner, is something of a luxury in a team that can't win clearances. Cotchin is brilliantly gifted and could survice on natural ability alone but I have seen too many Hiltons and Pettifers not make the move to midfield.

For mine Cotchin v Morton v Krezuer v Palmer is pretty lineball. I'd rate them all about the same TODAY. And have that group on a tier above any of the others. For all that I still think Chris Masten will be the best of the top-10.

So happy enough - just not wheeling around flinging my arms about with flowers in my hair singing Peace Train.

Rance is very good. Nut just a good player but a perfect complement to Thursfield. The guys Rance can't handle, Thursty will, and vice-versa. They look a great little team within a team. I rated Rance highly and have previously stated I would have been tempted to summon-up all my courage and take a flyer on him as early as 5 or 6.

Putt I had going to us at 18. To get Rance instead and still get Putt is a great result.

I also rate McMahon and Mitch Morton. Certainly both are better than anything else we would gave gotten after 30.

Pfeiffer I'd like on the rookie list. Hopefully we avoid Howat. Pfeiffer can play that role at least as well.

I still think we need an insurance ruckman in the PSD and can't think of one other than Richards which is the only downside to the whole trade/draft period so far.

Also need a small goalsneak who can rove goals and I want Joe Gazzo but it won't happen.

Cruize Gartlett????

[Drunken Wookie]

Just a quick point, if Cotchin is going to have to work hard to step into the midfield why is he rated by sheehan and burgan as the best midfielder, surely they're not gauging potential? has he shown more in stints in the middle then the other pure mids?

[I Rock]

I have the same concern as many about whether Cotchin will do the work to make himself into a midfielder. Great talent but even Nathan Brown, while a match-winner, is something of a luxury in a team that can't win clearances. Cotchin is brilliantly gifted and could survice on natural ability alone but I have seen too many Hiltons and Pettifers not make the move to midfield.

For mine Cotchin v Morton v Krezuer v Palmer is pretty lineball. I'd rate them all about the same TODAY. And have that group on a tier above any of the others. For all that I still think Chris Masten will be the best of the top-10.

So happy enough - just not wheeling around flinging my arms about with flowers in my hair singing Peace Train.

Rance is very good. Nut just a good player but a perfect complement to Thursfield. The guys Rance can't handle, Thursty will, and vice-versa. They look a great little team within a team. I rated Rance highly and have previously stated I would have been tempted to summon-up all my courage and take a flyer on him as early as 5 or 6.

Putt I had going to us at 18. To get Rance instead and still get Putt is a great result.

I also rate McMahon and Mitch Morton. Certainly both are better than anything else we would gave gotten after 30.

Pfeiffer I'd like on the rookie list. Hopefully we avoid Howat. Pfeiffer can play that role at least as well.

I still think we need an insurance ruckman in the PSD and can't think of one other than Richards which is the only downside to the whole trade/draft period so far.

Also need a small goalsneak who can rove goals and I want Joe Gazzo but it won't happen.

Allways good to hear your input Weaver, am really up beat about these pick ups. More so it seems (from my little inside knowledge) that not only did the recruiting staff get some good talent they also addressed team needs.

[Crumden]

Putt I had going to us at 18. To get Rance instead and still get Putt is a great result.

.Maybe someone who went to draft night can confirm, but apparently Putt was in the list of 8 or so we had earmarked for pick 18. Rance wasn't expected to last until then. I just heard the end of the SEN interview with Greg Miller, but he was giggling like a schoolboy about Rance slipping. I think this is one case when he will be genuie when he says they rated him higher and didn't expect to get him. Also saww Burgatron's comments that the Essendon table looked disappointed when we called out Putt's name. They must have had him pencilled in for their next pick.

[beaver fever]

Maybe someone who went to draft night can confirm, but apparently Putt was in the list of 8 or so we had earmarked for pick 18. Rance wasn't expected to last until then. I just heard the end of the SEN interview with Greg Miller, but he was giggling like a schoolboy about Rance slipping. I think this is one case when he will be genuie when he says they rated him higher and didn't expect to get him. Also saww Burgatron's comments that the Essendon table looked disappointed when we called out Putt's name. They must have had him pencilled in for their next pick.
Yes I read that also. Apparently Rance and Selwood were both players we didn't consider for pick 18 simply because we didn't think there was any chance of them slipping. Hence the long discussion before Rance's name was called out.

[Bojangles17]

Yes I read that also. Apparently Rance and Selwood were both players we didn't consider for pick 18 simply because we didn't think there was any chance of them slipping. Hence the long discussion before Rance's name was called out.

wrapt we picked rance, a powerfully built defender that wins plenty of the aggot , I concur with weaver that he will be a great complement to what we already have.

I tossed and turned over Morton v Cotchin...obviously my memories of us being smashed in the midfield when it counted had faded. Cotch will be a great addition to Foley ....within a couple of years we will have a dominant and classy midfield pack the envy of the comp:thumbsu: and I havent even mentioned edwards, connors, polo, collins and Kingy

[Weaver]

Maybe someone who went to draft night can confirm, but apparently Putt was in the list of 8 or so we had earmarked for pick 18. Rance wasn't expected to last until then.

Rance falling to 18 caused us some heartburn. We took the full 2 minutes and an extension. It was obvious we didn't think he would be there and were having to rethink our strategy on the fly.

I just heard the end of the SEN interview with Greg Miller, but he was giggling like a schoolboy about Rance slipping. I think this is one case when he will be genuie when he says they rated him higher and didn't expect to get him.


In fairness I think Miller was laughing at himself. He got halfway through the "we didn't expect him to be ..." speach and realised what he was saying and had a laugh at his own expense about the tired old cliche.

I suspect that Putt might have been plan D for the pick 18. If we had taken him that high it would probably have been a bad draft for us because it meant our other candidates had been pinched.

As it was we got Rance and still got Putt late which is a good result. He was probably a 30-40 player but we didn't have a pick. We either had to reach or gamble.

[Ah Cheung]

I have the same concern as many about whether Cotchin will do the work to make himself into a midfielder. Great talent but even Nathan Brown, while a match-winner, is something of a luxury in a team that can't win clearances. Cotchin is brilliantly gifted and could survice on natural ability alone but I have seen too many Hiltons and Pettifers not make the move to midfield.

For mine Cotchin v Morton v Krezuer v Palmer is pretty lineball. I'd rate them all about the same TODAY. And have that group on a tier above any of the others. For all that I still think Chris Masten will be the best of the top-10.

So happy enough - just not wheeling around flinging my arms about with flowers in my hair singing Peace Train.

Rance is very good. Nut just a good player but a perfect complement to Thursfield. The guys Rance can't handle, Thursty will, and vice-versa. They look a great little team within a team. I rated Rance highly and have previously stated I would have been tempted to summon-up all my courage and take a flyer on him as early as 5 or 6.

Putt I had going to us at 18. To get Rance instead and still get Putt is a great result.

I also rate McMahon and Mitch Morton. Certainly both are better than anything else we would gave gotten after 30.

Pfeiffer I'd like on the rookie list. Hopefully we avoid Howat. Pfeiffer can play that role at least as well.

I still think we need an insurance ruckman in the PSD and can't think of one other than Richards which is the only downside to the whole trade/draft period so far.

Also need a small goalsneak who can rove goals and I want Joe Gazzo but it won't happen.

Not sure if you've stated it before, but from a personal point of view weaver, if you're unsure as to whether cotch will make it as a midfielder at pick 2, who would you have taken at 2, 18 and 51 with who was available?

[captain blood 17]

I have the same concern as many about whether Cotchin will do the work to make himself into a midfielder. Great talent but even Nathan Brown, while a match-winner, is something of a luxury in a team that can't win clearances. Cotchin is brilliantly gifted and could survice on natural ability alone but I have seen too many Hiltons and Pettifers not make the move to midfield.

For mine Cotchin v Morton v Krezuer v Palmer is pretty lineball. I'd rate them all about the same TODAY. And have that group on a tier above any of the others. For all that I still think Chris Masten will be the best of the top-10.

So happy enough - just not wheeling around flinging my arms about with flowers in my hair singing Peace Train.

Rance is very good. Nut just a good player but a perfect complement to Thursfield. The guys Rance can't handle, Thursty will, and vice-versa. They look a great little team within a team. I rated Rance highly and have previously stated I would have been tempted to summon-up all my courage and take a flyer on him as early as 5 or 6.

Putt I had going to us at 18. To get Rance instead and still get Putt is a great result.

I also rate McMahon and Mitch Morton. Certainly both are better than anything else we would gave gotten after 30.

Pfeiffer I'd like on the rookie list. Hopefully we avoid Howat. Pfeiffer can play that role at least as well.

I still think we need an insurance ruckman in the PSD and can't think of one other than Richards which is the only downside to the whole trade/draft period so far.

Also need a small goalsneak who can rove goals and I want Joe Gazzo but it won't happen.

I would have been happy with Masten as well, but we really seemed to have covered some major needs this draft. Was semi hard when we picked Cotchin, still trying to retreive the pants from the ceiling after we picked up Rance. That pick up was as critical in my eyes as Cotchin. Putt seems fair as well. Like you Weaver, i would love to see Gazzo get a crack in some capacity. Days like today make it easier to fork out the hard earned for another membership.

[mattdwyer]

still trying to retreive the pants from the ceiling after we picked up Rance..

LMFAO .. gold ... i started running through house when all my family was asleep yelling and screaming in delight !!! hahaha ...

[tiger of old]

Yes I read that also. Apparently Rance and Selwood were both players we didn't consider for pick 18 simply because we didn't think there was any chance of them slipping. Hence the long discussion before Rance's name was called out.
Selwood was on the list.Along with Maric,McEvoy[Thought he might slip],Putt,Tarrant,Vespanni and a couple of others.

[sante]

Its fair to say then that if Rance hadn't slipped, Putt would have probably been our #18.

[duckboy]

Not sure if you've stated it before, but from a personal point of view weaver, if you're unsure as to whether cotch will make it as a midfielder at pick 2, who would you have taken at 2, 18 and 51 with who was available?

No doubt Weaver would've taken Masten with 2.

[Weaver]

Its fair to say then that if Rance hadn't slipped, Putt would have probably been our #18.

Have heard different lists from different people. I think it would have come down to Pears, Selwood, Maric or Putt.

Probably not Maric because he is similar to Cotchin. He was probably insurance against Carlton doing something weird.

Probably Selwood or Pears.

Our new Tambling v Franklin debate is whether Rance or Pears proves to be the better backman. I imagine that was what a good percentage of the 4 minutes we took to decide was devoted to.

Putt would have been a worst-case selection at 18.

[sante]

Weaver - Would have chosen someone different at 2, 18 or 51?

[Booms]

After seeing some footage of Cotchin - to me he wreaks of Garry Ablett Jnr!!! The way he gets through traffic and just absolutely carves up the other team with quick thinking and superb disposal - i think the RFC got a gem this draft. As for Rance...well lets just say you guys did VERY well this yr....He is going to be some player aswell. Well done tiges!

[webbie]

on the fox footy rap they all seemed to think we were one of the winners of the draft

liam pickering saying that he thought we did well because we got mitch from the eagles who he rates highly and thinks will be a very good player for us.
Also we got jordy who is speed+++++ and good skills.

with cotchin i think we got the best player in the draft Jary ablet jnr mkII with the best skills left and right foot

rance is far from slow as people have been saying, Darren glass MKII will be very handy pick up, and they will both play seniours next year regularly

all we need now is a tall forward to stand up at chf and our team will go well in the future. hopefully hughes

putt can be a monster fpocket next year and years to come speed plus 203cm handy player for fp and sometimes in the ruck.

well done tigers my faith is restored in your drafting no duds as yet.
lets not get richards!!!!!!!!!

[Crumden]

Have heard different lists from different people. I think it would have come down to Pears, Selwood, Maric or Putt.

Probably not Maric because he is similar to Cotchin. He was probably insurance against Carlton doing something weird.

Probably Selwood or Pears.

Our new Tambling v Franklin debate is whether Rance or Pears proves to be the better backman. I imagine that was what a good percentage of the 4 minutes we took to decide was devoted to.

Putt would have been a worst-case selection at 18.As reported on OER, Miller said on 3AW that the delay in making the decision was because they were considering Rance or Selwood. Apparently they were red hot on Selwood, but when Rance fell unexpectedly through they took him instead. So I think Pears would have only come into the equation if both Rance and Selwood were gone. Probably the real debate in years to come will be McMahon v Selwood, as that is effectively the outcome of the decision they made at the trade table. I don't know anything about Selwood version 4, but I'm comfortable with the decision at the moment as MacMahon has good skill which we lack a fair bit of and the other Selwoods are a bit over-rated IMO.

[Bojangles17]

I'm comfortable with the decision at the moment as MacMahon has good skill which we lack a fair bit of and the other Selwoods are a bit over-rated IMO.

fully agree on that, Joel is the only one that is classy, the others are no more than "grunts"

[Mr Anderson]

fully agree on that, Joel is the only one that is classy, the others are no more than "grunts"

Adam Selwood was classy enough to finish 3rd in Eagles B&F this year. Troy has had many problems with injury, especially his back, and his best is very good.

Not sure what a "grunt" is in your lexicon, but either or both would be Tigers best 22. Not Buddy Franklin look-at-me flashy, to be sure, but high quality disciplined footballers who are very hard at it and have good disposal. We can only hope McMahon can be so good.

[1980]

Maybe someone who went to draft night can confirm, but apparently Putt was in the list of 8 or so we had earmarked for pick 18. Rance wasn't expected to last until then. I just heard the end of the SEN interview with Greg Miller, but he was giggling like a schoolboy about Rance slipping. I think this is one case when he will be genuie when he says they rated him higher and didn't expect to get him. Also saww Burgatron's comments that the Essendon table looked disappointed when we called out Putt's name. They must have had him pencilled in for their next pick.

Miller does that every year. Always pulling the same lines about how we got who we wanted or we got someone we expected to go higher.

Nevertheless, I think we did well with the players we picked up. Probably because it was the first draft Miller hasnt too much influence.

[Crumden]

Miller does that every year. Always pulling the same lines about how we got who we wanted or we got someone we expected to go higher.

Nevertheless, I think we did well with the players we picked up. Probably because it was the first draft Miller hasnt too much influence.The part about Rance not being expected to be there has been confirmed by people who went to the draft night beforehand. Agree that Jackson seems to be doing a good job as our head recruiter.

[tugga]

Maybe someone who went to draft night can confirm, but apparently Putt was in the list of 8 or so we had earmarked for pick 18. Rance wasn't expected to last until then. I just heard the end of the SEN interview with Greg Miller, but he was giggling like a schoolboy about Rance slipping. I think this is one case when he will be genuie when he says they rated him higher and didn't expect to get him. Also saww Burgatron's comments that the Essendon table looked disappointed when we called out Putt's name. They must have had him pencilled in for their next pick.
I didn't go to the draft night but know somebody who did and he said the highlight reel for Putt was impressive. He said RFC was very keen on Putt and to get him so low, I reckon they would have been doing cartwheels.
So hard to find into on AFL up here in Mission Beach. I didn't find out about draft day until well into the afternoon. :(

[Weaver]

Miller does that every year. Always pulling the same lines about how we got who we wanted or we got someone we expected to go higher.

Because it is always true.

No club sits there at pick 18 and says, should we get the guy we ranked 12th or the guy we ranked 50th? 50th? Sold.

The simple mechanism of the draft is that outside of the first 2-3 picks you will always get someone you rated more highly unless all 16 clubs are working to exactly the same cheet-sheet as you.

[pasta]

Have heard different lists from different people. I think it would have come down to Pears, Selwood, Maric or Putt.

Probably not Maric because he is similar to Cotchin. He was probably insurance against Carlton doing something weird.

Probably Selwood or Pears.

Our new Tambling v Franklin debate is whether Rance or Pears proves to be the better backman. I imagine that was what a good percentage of the 4 minutes we took to decide was devoted to.

Putt would have been a worst-case selection at 18.


SPINE'S OPINION ON ALL THINGS RICHMOND AND THE DRAFTS GONE AND COMING UP.

Saturday was a wonderful day. Australia's new slogan should be:

Australia as it should be: Labor in Power and the Richmond football club challenging for premierships again:

I am an avid watcher of Under 18 football and Both Rance and Cotchin were in my top 6. To get Rance at 18, was the best surprise for a long time. Clubs that passed on him, (HAWTHORN, SYDNEY, W.B) WILL rue the day forever.

Rance is a standout F.B of this generation, I spoke to Miller on a number of occasions and said this bloke was better than Glass at the same age. He is the complete shutdown Full back we have lacked since - god only knows. Rance is like a shutdown corner in the NFL. You can do so many more things knowing you have a rock back there. Rance is a tough kid, not frightened to smack a bloke off the ball, or squirrel grip a player playing well. ASK MARIC ABOUT THE BACKHANDER.

West Coast as they have Glass can push their Wingman and HBa little more forward of the ball, we can now. We can match up against anyside, the stoppage kings and the POWER FORWARD - clubs of the world.

Pick 19 - I think I am the only person I know - that was rapt with the McMahon signing. It releases Newman in the middle, and allows McMahon to get the 5 - 6th best forward in the game. McMahon despite being small in stature is a little tougher than you think. HE IS Another LEADER TOO. A GOOD ONE.

We missed on Selwood, The younger Selwood = Daniel Jackson Notte (12 kilos wringing wet) and Callum Ward who can't kick. I was not at all impressed with him or McEvoy at the champs. McMahon - is 24. But the way he plays is realistically '22' with 100 games of AFL under his belt. McMahon is a great get, as is Morton at 35. Think of McMahon as our Leon Cameron - I would have preferred McMahon than David Myers who went at 6.
DEAN PUTT - Will not be a ruckmen, but will be a similar player to Paul Salmon. He is quick, Reminds me of Clint Bizzell with his marking (great grab) and has won a premiership (Calder) knows how to win big games.

I am rapt we did not select Morton. He is not a leader of men, is quiet and our group needs more extroverts as we know. Morton is seriously outside, and with Casserley, Oakley - Nicholls developing why get another utility?

From here: PSD - Gourdis - I had Gourdis in my top 20. Is tough and the similarity to Fanklin (hopefully not offield) is there. Is tough. Can be a Defender I reckon.

I would drop either Hyde or Moore of the list now. In the PSD - I would take 2 players: Gourdis and Guy Richards. Why Richards? 24 played in a good program, and will save us 500,000 in development costs. Richards can ruck, Simmo and Patto rotate out of the square / FP. ALLOWS GRAHAM, PUTT time to get stronger.

So Moore off the list: PSD 1: Gourdis: PSD 2 = chf /fb: Richards. Ruck.

ROOKIES: We can not get any Jeremy Humm's here. http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/Smileys/default/wink.gif

ROOKIE 1: Jarrod Silvestor: Will not be there in round 2. Kanga's keen, as are Port Adelaide. Allows Rance 2 years to mature. GOOD PLAYER SILVESTOR. With Polak will get gorialls. Thursfield and McGuane to get the 3rd tall and most dangerous small forward respectively.

ROOKIE 2: Paddy McGinnity: I love this bloke. Had him top 25. Good tagger, Cotchin wants him at Richmond.

Rookie 3: A surprise here: Steven Foster - Coburg Tigers Reserves. Geez - Jamie Charman like attributes, taller than Jamie. Tough / Crash and bash. Winner of award in grand final. Knows how to play well in big games. Keep Coburg interested.

Rookie 4: Simon Phillips / Joe Gazzo. As Gerry Gee 'Pelchan' says. Nearly the last thing on the shopping list. I like Phillips, was good as was Swallow in the 05 carnival. Gazzo - is a favourite, howver being only one sided will hurt. O.K Phillips for me. Dangerous - will be a similar get to Rhan Hooper (who I love for defensive pressure). Phillips has been in a good program, and will come back home. A DANGEROUS / SMALL DEFENSIVE FOWARD IS A MUST.

You may have to swap Rookie 3 and 4 around. Phillips might not be there in round 4.

We should get 2 more ruckmen: Richards and Foster and it is a position we will not have to worry about for 10 years.

Player Concerns: Meyer(Last chance) Schulz (I dislike Shulz and he is dumb.) Real dumb. Will make it in Defense or not at all. Hughes: Soft: Needs to smack bodies, not prance around like a Vogue model (a women) . I like Oakley - Nicholls. He was not a wasted pick. He will be a damn good player. Rest assured on that.

I am not racist, but no - more aboriginals now. They are hit or miss. Cyril Rioli is a big ? from the Dawks, I doubt he makes it.

A wonderful day - was Saturday. Nearly fainted after Rance was a Tiger. Mark his name down as a vital cog in Richmond's premiership successes. http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/Smileys/default/beerchug.gif

No more - disrespecting our players. McMahon is good, Morton is good and our ability to get players to come to us after a wooden spoon year says wonders.
We missed nothing on giving up pick 19. Nothing. Selwood is just a player, Notte = a piece of spaghetti and Ward = pick 40 - 50 on my list.

Great to see everybody happy. Richmond supporters are the best in the land. And when we are happy all together we can move and make the AFL take notice of a club - who is just coming out of hibernation.

THE LIGER IS BORN: L STANDING FOR LABOR:

http://www.yellowandblack.com.au/forum/images/smilies/smile.gifKeep positive and buy your membership now as ther tigers are a comin... and comin... for the next decade.

SPINE:


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No Gaertner - Can't kick and is a pea heart.

NO Arrowsmith = just a pea heart. Tivendale and Hughes are hercules compared to this curly haired softy... Pink Marshmellow is no longer Miller it is Arrowsmith.



Both players are softer than the Meadow Lea institute.



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Carlscum will take Gourdis at 2 in PSD. Take Gourdis and Richards PSD: Drop Moore of list. DON'T DARE LETS CARLSCUM GET GOURDIS HERE. If Miller wants Richards (Get him with 2nd pick in PSD) Drop Moore / or Hyde off the list. And or both. Don't get Cam Howat again = soft / dud.

Silvestor: r1

Paddy McGinnity / AARON JOSEPH r2.

Rookie 3: A surprise here: Steven Foster - Coburg Tigers Reserves.

Rookie 4: Simon Phillips / Joe Gazzo. As Gerry Gee 'Pelchan' says. Nearly the last thing on the shopping list.


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Ryan Hobbs - Geez I like the way he attacked the footy for the countries in the carnival. Was the only Power forward who had the W.A side looking around a bit in all 3 games. Played well and kicked 2 long goals.

Gourdis > than Hobbs but if we pick up both in the PSD or Rookie draft our spine is set and (read my post on PSD picks and the like) and Ruckmen will be solved for a decade or more.

Do it Miller and Jackson.

2008 National draft - KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON THESE 2 PLAYERS.
Michael Hurley (VM) Gun Spine player.

Chris Yarran. (W.A) Think Motlop, Steve Johnson, Alan Didak all in one.

Would love 2 first round picks next year to select these boys.

Woah... My head is spinning at our developing side coming through.



Both of these players are better than Naitanui, Rich et.al... by a very long way in my opinion.

Hurley is a future Stephen Kernahan type. And a future Captain.

I love Hurley nearly as much as I loved Rance this season. http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/Smileys/default/grin.gif

One down One to go... Do it Miller / Jackson.

[Ah Cheung]

Why you posting the same thing?

[IDGAF]

The part about Rance not being expected to be there has been confirmed by people who went to the draft night beforehand. Agree that Jackson seems to be doing a good job as our head recruiter.
With all due respect Crum ... Rance falling to 18 has got f..k all to do with Jackson ... and him and Putt have to get a kick yet

[IDGAF]

I have the same concern as many about whether Cotchin will do the work to make himself into a midfielder. Great talent but even Nathan Brown, while a match-winner, is something of a luxury in a team that can't win clearances. Cotchin is brilliantly gifted and could survice on natural ability alone but I have seen too many Hiltons and Pettifers not make the move to midfield.

At the pointy end of the draft Weaver the equation is simple ... best available . Not meaning to insult your intelligence so i will get to the point .

I realise there is a duty of care to go as deeply as one can with the ins and outs of draft prospects ... but you can only go so far . you aint never gonna tell what a 17-18 year old is going to be like when he is 25 ... so to even remotely put question marks on a kid like Cotchin with regards his work ethic is fools folly .

I am as sick to f..kin death as any of us when it comes to this kids name but its an example once again that needs to be raised ... The question mark hanging over Buddy Franklin going into that draft was regarding his head and attitude to do the work to succeed at the top ... whist he still has a way to go , the is a fair bit of proof in the pudding there .

It is down to our football dept. now to do the work that ensures that not only Cotchin but all our recruits succeed ... you list a fair roll call of HFF`s that should have been more , and your right it is an indictment . But who is to blame ;) ... is it the talent or our lack of ability over the years to develop it properly ?