View Full Version : Vote hear for David Gourdis
YellowandBlackBlood
24 Nov 2007, 18:53
I was hoping we'd pick up Collard/Pfeiffer in the PSD before I knew that David Gourdis was going to be left on the side lines!
Talk about upside!
Height 193cm
Weight 88kg
Draft Camp results: FASTEST over 20m (2.83sec wow!)
Repeat 30m sprints No.6 at 24.22sec
HIGHEST vertical jump by far! (81cm wow wow wow!) (next best a distant 74cm)
Another key forward to put pressure on Schultz, Hughes etc or compliment them!
With his speed, which full back can keep up?
Common Tiges, give us some excitement! GET HIM!!!!!
Ps Apologies for the spelling typo in the title of the thread!
richcogs
24 Nov 2007, 19:03
Somehow we have to get contact to Miller to put him atleast on his radar if he's not already! SOMEHOW! I live in Albury so I can't get down to Melbourne that easierly to pay Tigerland a visit.
Someone has to go down there and pass a letter through administration to Greg, just saying please consider Gourdis.
YellowandBlackBlood
24 Nov 2007, 19:38
I often email him, so you know what I'll be doing next week!
Deledio_Judd
24 Nov 2007, 19:42
If we don't get him there will be many angry tiger fans acroos the country.
nugget_12
24 Nov 2007, 20:07
it has been reported that he is flying over with Rance tomorrow.....hopefully its to train with us!
polakthetiger
24 Nov 2007, 20:21
Ummmmm...just one small question..why wasn't this champion in waiting taken before the other 60+ kids today?
richmond fanatic
24 Nov 2007, 20:22
I'm in.
Nugget where did you find that info out?
nugget_12
24 Nov 2007, 20:36
I'm in.
Nugget where did you find that info out?
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=6221.90
scroll down to blaisee's comment.
Flying over with Rance and Collard, apparently Gourdis and Collard are vying for PSD and Rookie Positions.
richmond fanatic
24 Nov 2007, 20:47
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=6221.90
scroll down to blaisee's comment.
Flying over with Rance and Collard, apparently Gourdis and Collard are vying for PSD and Rookie Positions.
thanks mate
Ruanaidh
25 Nov 2007, 07:10
Yeah count me in. The drafting this year has been systematically astute, well done Greg and Jacko. But now we need some X factor and Gourdis could provide it.:thumbsu:
tiger of old
25 Nov 2007, 09:34
If we don't get him there will be many angry tiger fans acroos the country.Then start getting angry.We wont be taking Gourdis despite him coming over.
mms://wm9.streaming.telstra.com/wh_afl1/OnDemand/Preseason08/davidgourdis.wmv
Forget the marking, check the afterburners on some of the footage towards the end and count me in.
nugget_12
25 Nov 2007, 09:56
Then start getting angry.We wont be taking Gourdis despite him coming over.
What makes you say that Tigers of old?
I think if we took the time to ring him directly after the draft to come over to train with us then obviously the club must have some interest in him!
I rate him as an exceptional player who could play a number of KP's.
Obviously has great speed and hands but he has pretty good decision making ability and normally chooses the right option.
He, Collard or Pfeiffer would be a great PSD pick #1 for us.
and the others (if avaliable) as rookie picks.
tiger of old
25 Nov 2007, 10:03
What makes you say that Tigers of old?
I think if we took the time to ring him directly after the draft to come over to train with us then obviously the club must have some interest in him!
I rate him as an exceptional player who could play a number of KP's.
Obviously has great speed and hands but he has pretty good decision making ability and normally chooses the right option.
He, Collard or Pfeiffer would be a great PSD pick #1 for us.
and the others (if avaliable) as rookie picks.
Clubs didnt like what they heard when interviewed apparently.Hence the reason he didnt get drafted at all.I shouldnt say we wont draft him.maybe not being picked up may change his attitude hence the reason for the invite.
Drunken Wookie
25 Nov 2007, 10:05
mms://wm9.streaming.telstra.com/wh_afl1/OnDemand/Preseason08/davidgourdis.wmv
Forget the marking, check the afterburners on some of the footage towards the end and count me in.
hot damn, I know its like a minute of highlight footage but he moves like a midfielder and marks like a richo! not bad skills either, what was the problem with this guy?
Ummmmm...just one small question..why wasn't this champion in waiting taken before the other 60+ kids today?
There was a big cultural shift at the draft yesterday.
The 'project' players were overlooked. Smouha, Gaertner, Gourids, Mulligan would all have been snapped up in previous years.
In the debate of production v potential - the clubs went production (mostly).
Was talking with a friend about this. My guess is that it comes down to a question of where do you play your project? That elite athlete who can run but can't kick? In the past you'd put him in the backpocket but nowdays often your 6 smartest footballers and best kicks are down back.
Gourdis is too selfless. He prefers to pass and give away goals than get them himself. Eventually a key forward can't be that modest - they need to want to be the man.
He also switched kicking foot a couple of years ago. He can kick it a mile but can get the yips and can spray a few. He is certainly not a natural when it comes to his kicking.
There are some hints of Ray Hall about him. Very hard working, never quits, at his best chasing and tackling and winning the footy back. But not overly footy smart, not the best kick and lacks a bit of self-belief prefering to defer to others.
The atheltic package makes him a great project though. He can take a mark (which Hall struggled with) and he can run. Plays well as a Tarrant-like lead-up forward.
Someone will take him and give him the 2-3 year apprenticeship.
nugget_12
25 Nov 2007, 10:18
There was a big cultural shift at the draft yesterday.
The 'project' players were overlooked. Smouha, Gaertner, Gourids, Mulligan would all have been snapped up in previous years.
In the debate of production v potential - the clubs went production (mostly).
Was talking with a friend about this. My guess is that it comes down to a question of where do you play your project? That elite athlete who can run but can't kick? In the past you'd put him in the backpocket but nowdays often your 6 smartest footballers and best kicks are down back.
Gourdis is too selfless. He prefers to pass and give away goals than get them himself. Eventually a key forward can't be that modest - they need to want to be the man.
He also switched kicking foot a couple of years ago. He can kick it a mile but can get the yips and can spray a few. He is certainly not a natural when it comes to his kicking.
There are some hints of Ray Hall about him. Very hard working, never quits, at his best chasing and tackling and winning the footy back. But not overly footy smart, not the best kick and lacks a bit of self-belief prefering to defer to others.
The atheltic package makes him a great project though. He can take a mark (which Hall struggled with) and he can run. Plays well as a Tarrant-like lead-up forward.
Someone will take him and give him the 2-3 year apprenticeship.
Do you think the Tigers could give him that apprenticeship Weaver?
we dont need him to play next year as we have Richo,Browny,Jay,Jack and Cleve all as lead up forwards.you could even throw polak and Lids in too.
I believe our forward line isn't in dyer needs for a player that can play straight away so he could be worth the risk!
We've turned attitudes around before im sure we can do it again.
Madtiger2006
25 Nov 2007, 10:19
This guys sounds like another Nick Gill from Adelaide. Probably worth the punt
There was a big cultural shift at the draft yesterday.
The 'project' players were overlooked. Smouha, Gaertner, Gourids, Mulligan would all have been snapped up in previous years.
Sounds like the clubs may be looking to use the rookie list to develop project players. Sounds like a sensible idea to me. Is this a fair comment?
adamania11
25 Nov 2007, 10:23
If Richmond pick Guy Richards instead of Gourdis...
Collard coming to train with us too?
Sounds like the clubs may be looking to use the rookie list to develop project players. Sounds like a sensible idea to me. Is this a fair comment?
We'll have to wait and see. They could all overlook him and fill up with Howat/King/Silvester types from the State Leagues.
We've turned attitudes around before im sure we can do it again.
He doesn't have a badattitude just needs a dose of self belief and stop needing to think that he is the 15th best player on the field and should pass to better players all the time. Take 'em on son - demand the footy. He is the one key forward in the country jumping up and down, waving his arms around screaming "kick it to him, kick it to him"
He doesn't have a badattitude just needs a dose of self belief and stop needing to think that he is the 15th best player on the field and should pass to better players all the time. Take 'em on son - demand the footy. He is the one key forward in the country jumping up and down, waving his arms around screaming "kick it to him, kick it to him"
Richo would love him :p
tigerfan1961
25 Nov 2007, 11:49
Ummmmm...just one small question..why wasn't this champion in waiting taken before the other 60+ kids today?
Very astute comment. I went to the draft night presentation and while he was big and could take a grab, I would not take him. There are others they will consider before him IMHO.
We supporters have to have faith In Francis Jackson- believe me, he is very good at what he is employed to do. We passed on our last pick for very good reason- it was explained on draft night. All players in the mix for the PSD will be at a training session today(?) and they will make a final decision from there.
They will do the right thing- keep the faith!!
tigerfan1961
25 Nov 2007, 11:53
Collard coming to train with us too? I believe so
TigerTuff2008
25 Nov 2007, 12:06
I'm still shocked that a potential top 10 player like Rance fell to us at Pick 18 - and then we pipped Putt from Essendon,whom seemed shattered when we read out his name....
and will pick up another few youngsters in psd and rookie.
Our recruiting this year - has been very smart and calcualting, i just hope we don;t stuff it with Richards - but i don't think we will as we got Putt.
happy to draft Gourdis
nice one - i say nice one:thumbsu:
polakthetiger
25 Nov 2007, 16:08
There was a big cultural shift at the draft yesterday.
The 'project' players were overlooked. Smouha, Gaertner, Gourids, Mulligan would all have been snapped up in previous years.
In the debate of production v potential - the clubs went production (mostly).
Gourdis is too selfless. He prefers to pass and give away goals than get them himself. Eventually a key forward can't be that modest - they need to want to be the man.
He also switched kicking foot a couple of years ago. He can kick it a mile but can get the yips and can spray a few. He is certainly not a natural when it comes to his kicking.
Thanks Weaver.
Interestingly afl.com.au has small highlight packages of around 20 of the draftees and Gourdis, Bellchambers and Gaertner were included. Too bad for everyone who wanted to see some of the actual drafted players. But these 3 all must be rated and seems odd for all 3 to have missed. But your theory could be the reason. 'Spraying a few' from a long term Tiger key forward has given me more than the yips LOL. Lets go Collard
Rance and 'the Cotch' were included in the highlights and liked the look of those two very much indeed from the small bits I saw. Cotchin front and centre and away we go a couple of times finishing off with pinpoint delivery:thumbsu:
Good point Tigerfan on getting a better look at the leftovers at training rather than using pick 64. Better if a few are also down at Punt Rd too rather than elsewhere so we can get a REAL close look at them.
Gourdis for No.1 PSD.
And one of Collard/Pfeffer(sp?)/Geartner(sp?)/Bellchambers for No.1 Rookie Pick.
Ruanaidh
25 Nov 2007, 17:43
!93cm with afterburners:thumbsu:
Madtiger2006
25 Nov 2007, 18:00
I was hoping we'd pick up Collard/Pfeiffer in the PSD before I knew that David Gourdis was going to be left on the side lines!
Talk about upside!
Height 193cm
Weight 88kg
Draft Camp results: FASTEST over 20m (2.83sec wow!)
Repeat 30m sprints No.6 at 24.22sec
HIGHEST vertical jump by far! (81cm wow wow wow!) (next best a distant 74cm)
Another key forward to put pressure on Schultz, Hughes etc or compliment them!
With his speed, which full back can keep up?
Common Tiges, give us some excitement! GET HIM!!!!!
Ps Apologies for the spelling typo in the title of the thread!
I had a standing vertical jump of 87cm when I was younger. Maybe I should have gone in the draft too :cool:
Realistic Tiger
25 Nov 2007, 21:19
After reading the following from the AFL site I would like to add my name to the growing chorus of Tigers fans who would like to see Gourdis at Punt Rd be it senior list or rookie list.
DAVID GOURDIS
Subiaco, WA, Tall forward, March 14, 1989, 192.4cm, 88.9kg
Bio: Tall, athletic forward who is strong on the lead. Showed outstanding athletic ability at the 2007 NAB AFL Draft Camp, ranking first overall for the 20m sprint (2.83 sec) and in the running vertical jump (101cm). He also ranked in the top 8 per cent in the six-by-30m repeat sprints.
So what if he occasionally sprays a few kicks, Richo does and has 700+ goals for his career, if Gourdis could have half of Richos total for a career then I'd gladly take that.
polakthetiger
25 Nov 2007, 22:26
So what if he occasionally sprays a few kicks, Richo does and has 700+ goals for his career, if Gourdis could have half of Richos total for a career then I'd gladly take that.
C'mon RT...can we please get a dead eye dick for our next long term KP forward! It's not good for the mids morale nor the supporters;) We all know Richo is an out and out champion, but.....
Crumden
25 Nov 2007, 23:18
Good point Tigerfan on getting a better look at the leftovers at training rather than using pick 64. Better if a few are also down at Punt Rd too rather than elsewhere so we can get a REAL close look at them.It would have been ludicrous to use pick 64 when we had first pick in the PSD, especially when so few clubs were going to be picking after us. There is still another list lodgement to go, and we can get the draft leftovers down to have a better look at. We'll know on Tuesday which uncontracted players will be in the PSD and we'll also have time to have a good think about the players left from the draft. So far only 6 clubs are in the PSD (and Bulldogs are after welsh), so a good chance for us to get a good player there plus another with pick 1 in the rookie draft.:thumbsu:
benny_furs
26 Nov 2007, 00:23
Just watched the Vic vs WA game and some aspects of his game looks fantastic. His contested marking would have to be one of the top in this draft.
However, since his kicking was no good I'm happy we didn't get him.
He takes a strong pack mark at 70m out, BUT, then he kicks it straight to a defender...
...we don't need that.
As for the PSD I hope there are better options out there. I wouldn't be able to stand anymore forwards who constantly miss goals... apart from a missed goal it is essentially a direct kick to the chest of your opponent as he then gets to kick out and set up a goal for an 11 point turn-around.
In the future as all 16 teams become more and more equal I can easily see the teams with the greatest goal accuracy having enough of an edge to win a lot more games than an equally talented team with a "Richo".
heartbroken
26 Nov 2007, 10:01
I agree with getting Gourdis. If we pick richards, I will be disappointed as it will be a real slap in the face to Pattison.
We already have a 1st ruck, and an emerging second ruck. We already have 2 younger ruckman who in case of emergency next year, could fill in.
Why have a 5th ruck on the list?? Is this normal at other clubs?
Realistic Tiger
26 Nov 2007, 10:08
C'mon RT...can we please get a dead eye dick for our next long term KP forward! It's not good for the mids morale nor the supporters;) We all know Richo is an out and out champion, but.....
The difference is this time someone at the club may actually work with the kid from the time he got there to correct his kicking, don't think anyone ever did with Richo. The other difference is he would not be our sole target up forward like Richo has been for most of his career. Anyway Buddy sprays shots just as much as Richo but I'm sure if we could we would have him in our side in a heartbeat, simply because when they are on they are impossible to stop. Not saying Gourdis is that sort of player, because I have only seen him play the 1 game even then it was a tape of the champs, but lets take a risk on a player that has lightning speed and can jump tall buildings. We got the players we needed to cover some holes in our list now lets get one who could be anything. Then use the rookie picks to play it a little safer.
richcogs
26 Nov 2007, 10:12
In a perfect world I'd like Collard in the PSD and Gourdis number 1 in the Rookie Draft with Pffeifer lasting to our number 2 pick. But I'd be satisfied with 2 from these 3. They might all get snapped up in the PSD though!
MrMalteser
26 Nov 2007, 10:15
i agree with above....
pick up arrowsmith 2 with rookie pick and bellchambers
benny_furs
26 Nov 2007, 10:21
Arrowsmith is a slow and soft wingman, I hope there is something better!
GM has said a couple of times now that we need a small forward who can harass and apply pressure, would this include Collard? I know he is a Jetta-like player but what is his defensive side like?
tony_montana
26 Nov 2007, 10:27
Arrowsmith is a slow and soft wingman, I hope there is something better!
GM has said a couple of times now that we need a small forward who can harass and apply pressure, would this include Collard? I know he is a Jetta-like player but what is his defensive side like?
Has played HBF in his junior days, pretty sure i saw him line up there for WA in the under18 carnival when he was in it.
Gourdis, collard and pfeiffer - make it happen tigers :thumbsu: