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Bachar_Houli
30 Nov 2007, 14:54
Saw a thread about him on another board. They say he is alot better than Kruezer. If we get him i will be extremely happy. Carlton will probably tank once again to get him.
http://media.foxsports.com.au/images/naitanui180.jpg
I saw him play in the W.A vs Vic game and i thought he looks very talented. Mist out on the draft because he is a couple days to young. Easily top 3 in next years draft.
Schmick
30 Nov 2007, 15:04
Very very good young player who is a great tap ruckman and is very quick and agile but.......
Daniel Rich, he's absolute gun and if we are in the position to pick him up, we will do so.
Ludwig van Bertstare
30 Nov 2007, 15:11
No thanks. Give me Daniel Rich, absolute gun.
Bachar_Houli
30 Nov 2007, 15:12
do u have a pic of rich? what position does he play?
Ludwig van Bertstare
30 Nov 2007, 15:16
He's a midfielder.
http://www.ais.org.au/austrules/images/06144-12.JPG
Schmick
30 Nov 2007, 15:32
He's the exact type of midfielder iv'e been wanting Essendon to get for sometime now, crash and bash inside midfield who's strong and hard at it, reasonably quick, poised highly skilled with great vision. Sure would be nice if we could pick him up next year. Im going to try and avoid this kind of talk though, because it's just way way too early to be talking about who to draft in 2008.
do u have a pic of rich? what position does he play?
He played in the W.A vs Vic game you watched.
Bachar_Houli
30 Nov 2007, 15:35
He played in the W.A vs Vic game you watched.
yeah, i dont remember every player.
Schmick
30 Nov 2007, 15:39
He played in the W.A vs Vic game you watched.
He didn't really standout in that game though like he did in the WAFL because he didn't really get as much as gametime in the midfield because of the other hopefulls that wanted to get drafted. That was also the reason Myers didn't play much in the midfield in the champs and played quite a bit at half back, because they had an abundance of good midfielders already. You still get to see Rich's great work and his great attributes, he just doesn't get alot of the ball.
Ludwig van Bertstare
30 Nov 2007, 15:43
Rich seems like a great leader as well.
He's a midfielder.
http://www.ais.org.au/austrules/images/06144-12.JPG
He doesn't look very tall
Schmick
30 Nov 2007, 16:18
He doesn't look very tall
185cm, so he's definately not short. The reason he probably doesn't look very tall is because he's very solid build.
The word for Naitanui is 'potential'.
This kid has more of that than just about any young player I've ever seen. He's the type that can leap over a pack, run down a guy from no where, and can do it all day. He's still putting it all together, but he can do some incredible things.
He's a super prospect, and I'd take him over anyone in this year's or next year's draft.
The only problem is, how is he going to slip to pick 16? ;)
The word for Naitanui is 'potential'.
This kid has more of that than just about any young player I've ever seen. He's the type that can leap over a pack, run down a guy from no where, and can do it all day. He's still putting it all together, but he can do some incredible things.
He's a super prospect, and I'd take him over anyone in this year's or next year's draft.
The only problem is, how is he going to slip to pick 16? ;)
We'll get 17- I'm assuming Carlton will get there mandatory priority pick;):D
Rather early to be penciling next years draft picks.
1) We dont know what number we will be picking at unless you belive most of the Hawthorn/Collingwood/Carlton.Richmond trolls.
2) How do you know who will go up another level from our current list ? Thats what will dictate what sort of players we will be looking at.
3)Naitanui could have a dud year next season.
Would love Naitanui. Absoutle freak athlete and a awsome football player.
Others to look for - Dan Rich and Hamish Hartlett
Others to look for - Dan Rich and Hamish Hartlett
Hurley, Cornelius, Suban and Trengrove go alright as well.
Still, as Ant said, there's a long way to go yet.
Longy413
30 Nov 2007, 17:39
I'll be shattered if we get either of them.
bomba4eva
30 Nov 2007, 18:38
The word for Naitanui is 'potential'.
This kid has more of that than just about any young player I've ever seen. He's the type that can leap over a pack, run down a guy from no where, and can do it all day. He's still putting it all together, but he can do some incredible things.
He's a super prospect, and I'd take him over anyone in this year's or next year's draft.
The only problem is, how is he going to slip to pick 16? ;)
Exactly what I was thinking. The talk seems to be that they will be early picks, but i will be hoping that we dont have those early picks like we have had for the past three years.
matthewlloydwebber
30 Nov 2007, 19:27
http://media.foxsports.com.au/images/naitanui180.jpg
i've not seen him play so i wont pass judgement but i just wanna say thats an awesome action photo. if i was nicholas i would get that blown up life-size and stick it up in my room ala jordan's wingspan lolz. im pilfering it for my av.
Smyth94
30 Nov 2007, 20:32
Gentlemen, there's a bloke on our list called Mr. Ryder aka "Superman"/"The Freakshow"
We don't need Natanui
King Patty
1 Dec 2007, 13:26
yeah too early too worry about who we may get in next years draft considering we dont know what position we will end up in.
bomberstomake8
1 Dec 2007, 18:26
how will next years draft fair out of curiosity?
will it have more depth then this years draft?
still hard to tell due to the fact that theres a whole year of development for the kids but im just wondering whats everyones predictions
how will next years draft fair out of curiosity?
will it have more depth then this years draft?
still hard to tell due to the fact that theres a whole year of development for the kids but im just wondering whats everyones predictions
Next years draft is said by some to be potentially the best ever.
Lets wait until after next season huh.....
Next years draft is said by some to be potentially the best ever.
Lets wait until after next season huh.....
That's good then coz we will get pick 9-16 and atleast there should still be a few monty's left at that stage!:thumbsu:
donsman4eva
1 Dec 2007, 19:55
He looks like a good prospect, but lets wait and see what eventuates over the next 12 months shall we ;)
Colin D'Cops
1 Dec 2007, 21:39
He looks like a definate top 3 chance, awesome potential, but like some people has said, a lot can change in a year, so I won't be making to many judgements just yet. Top ruck prospect, he's a raw talent, but has shown some massive improvement since adapting to our great game of Aussie Rules. Some other names are D.Rich, H.Hartlett, M. De Boeur & N.Suban. Can't wait 'till next years draft, like most !! :cool:
bombersno1
2 Dec 2007, 09:27
Would much rather Rich thanks
Colin D'Cops
2 Dec 2007, 10:37
Would much rather Rich thanks
I very much like Rich as a player, but I think a freak KP player in Naitanui, is better than a gun midfielder (Rich). KP players have more impact on a match and they are much rarer to find. I like Rich alot, would be absolutley delighted if we got him, but at present, I'd rather Naitanui. He is improving rapidly with his skills and ball handling and I'd expect him to be starring next year in the under 18 championships. But as I said before, I don't want to make any real judgements just yet......
bombersno1
2 Dec 2007, 19:16
I very much like Rich as a player, but I think a freak KP player in Naitanui, is better than a gun midfielder (Rich). KP players have more impact on a match and they are much rarer to find. I like Rich alot, would be absolutley delighted if we got him, but at present, I'd rather Naitanui. He is improving rapidly with his skills and ball handling and I'd expect him to be starring next year in the under 18 championships. But as I said before, I don't want to make any real judgements just yet......
Disagree, have a look at our midfield. It is dead blind obvious we are lacking at least 1 if not 2 A Class midfielders. You can always get ruckmen with your 2nd round pick anyway!
Colin D'Cops
2 Dec 2007, 19:30
Disagree, have a look at our midfield. It is dead blind obvious we are lacking at least 1 if not 2 A Class midfielders. You can always get ruckmen with your 2nd round pick anyway!
Naitanui is an absolute freak, rate him higher than M.Kreuzer & J.Fraser at the moment. He is a very rare player, very exciting ruckman with a massive leap. I would never of thought I'd say that phrase, ' very exciting ruckman' but it's true. There's always one A grade / standout ruckman to me in every draft and after that, there is a huge gap. Rich I'd be glad to get, but as I said before, I'd take Naitanui before him. You can get A Class midfielders with second round picks. Some examples are :- Ricky Petterd (MLB - Pick 30 - Will be a star.), Jed Adcock (BRS - Pick 33 - Will be a star.), Kane Cornes (PTA-Pick 20- We all know how good he is), Paul Chapman (GEE-Pick 31-Awesome player) and James Hird just to name a few. A Grade ruckmen are much harder to find later on in drafts, but one that has exceeded that rule is Cox, who went through the rookie draft I'm pretty sure.
bombersno1
2 Dec 2007, 19:45
Naitanui is an absolute freak, rate him higher than M.Kreuzer & J.Fraser at the moment. He is a very rare player, very exciting ruckman with a massive leap. I would never of thought I'd say that phrase, ' very exciting ruckman' but it's true. There's always one A grade / standout ruckman to me in every draft and after that, there is a huge gap. Rich I'd be glad to get, but as I said before, I'd take Naitanui before him. You can get A Class midfielders with second round picks. Some examples are :- Ricky Petterd (MLB - Pick 30 - Will be a star.), Jed Adcock (BRS - Pick 33 - Will be a star.), Kane Cornes (PTA-Pick 20- We all know how good he is), Paul Chapman (GEE-Pick 31-Awesome player) and James Hird just to name a few. A Grade ruckmen are much harder to find later on in drafts, but one that has exceeded that rule is Cox, who went the the rookie draft I'm pretty sure.
Fraser is a ordinary ruckman, not sure what you are getting at there, Kreuzer I have doubts as to whether he'll be a ruckman as he is on the shortish side. Put it this way if I were to pick between Cotchin and Kreuzer, I'd go Cotchin, and that same logic goes here. We need a real quality midfielder. Myers MIGHT be one, but even so we are still at least 1 short. Despite what everyone on here recons, none of the mids on our list are A Grade- Stanton at his best might have a case but thats about it. I really think we need a midfield star. And I still believe Laycock and Ryder will be damn good ruckmen anyway.
We've been talking/arguing recruits for months.
How about we leave the 2008 recruits until 2008
Colin D'Cops
2 Dec 2007, 19:56
Fraser is a ordinary ruckman, not sure what you are getting at there, Kreuzer I have doubts as to whether he'll be a ruckman as he is on the shortish side. Put it this way if I were to pick between Cotchin and Kreuzer, I'd go Cotchin, and that same logic goes here. We need a real quality midfielder. Myers MIGHT be one, but even so we are still at least 1 short. Despite what everyone on here recons, none of the mids on our list are A Grade- Stanton at his best might have a case but thats about it. I really think we need a midfield star. And I still believe Laycock and Ryder will be damn good ruckmen anyway.
I was saying Fraser's name because he is a past number 1 pick like Kreuzer. And I rate Naitanui higher than those two, considering Fraser's potential at under 18 level mostly. And I have massive question marks over Laycock's head as a ruckman :confused:, seems very very slow when I've seen him at games and sometimes his decision making skills are pretty shocking. Takes a great grab and has the tall frame, but that's the only positives I can draw from him at present. Hope he proves me wrong !!Ryder is a great prospect, but I think he is at his best when he is a floating KP player rather than a ruckman. So that leaves Hille as our only good, not great, ruckman. We've got tonnes of great young mids in Hislop, Watson, Stanton, Winderlich, Houli, Monfries, etc. We really lack an A class ruckman more than a great midfielder in my opinion. We'll see what unfolds throughout the year anyway, alot can happen in a year.......
bombersno1
2 Dec 2007, 20:04
Agreed, and lets just agree to disagree. In the end we may not be in a position to get either as both are top 3 picks next year, and I hope we don't come 14th-16th as I do not like tanking for picks ala Carlton!
Colin D'Cops
2 Dec 2007, 20:10
In the end we may not be in a position to get either as both are top 3 picks next year, and I hope we don't come 14th-16th as I do not like tanking for picks ala Carlton!
Yep, ditto.....:cool:
Ludwig van Bertstare
2 Dec 2007, 20:12
We've been talking/arguing recruits for months.
How about we leave the 2008 recruits until 2008
Please.
kelvin_sheedy
30 Nov 2008, 17:41
Very very good young player who is a great tap ruckman and is very quick and agile but.......
Daniel Rich, he's absolute gun and if we are in the position to pick him up, we will do so.
Not so sure dude. :cool:
Ludwig van Bertstare
30 Nov 2008, 17:47
What's the point of bumping this?
You're just being silly.