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Lynch takes a mark
5 Dec 2007, 17:49
Seriously, how much do we love 6'2 solidly built South Australian Midfield/Flankers
Almost as much as guys from Vic Country and WA kids with rookie selections you can pretty much lock down pick 10-20 as a SA player
Beau Waters, Sam Butler, Shannon Hurn & now Brad Ebert not including trading for Stenglein from the Crows. Only Mitch Brown and Chris Masten have been drafted with top 20 selections since 2003 that are not from SA.
Seems at worst you get a 150 game solid contributor who can play a variety of roles in the midfield, in defence and in the forward line.
Each of them need/needed to do was get over groin problems when drafted but once they break into the 22 they stay there for a bloody long time.
greennick
5 Dec 2007, 19:49
Seriously, how much do we love 6'2 solidly built South Australian Midfield/Flankers
Almost as much as guys from Vic Country and WA kids with rookie selections you can pretty much lock down pick 10-20 as a SA player
Beau Waters, Sam Butler, Shannon Hurn & now Brad Ebert not including trading for Stenglein from the Crows. Only Mitch Brown and Chris Masten have been drafted with top 20 selections since 2003 that are not from SA.
Seems at worst you get a 150 game solid contributor who can play a variety of roles in the midfield, in defence and in the forward line.
Each of them need/needed to do was get over groin problems when drafted but once they break into the 22 they stay there for a bloody long time.
I wonder if it is because they are often sliders. What do you think?
I mean, Ebert was expected to go top 5/10, depending on who you asked. Almost nobody expected him to last to 13. It was the same with Hurn.
Maybe our huge amount of recruiters allows us to accurately rank players across the country and thus pick up the bargains. Most teams don't even have full-time recruiters over there.
Also, we seem to like touting them as future leaders. Waters, Hurn, and Ebert have all at some point been looked at as leaders, and Stenglein as well.
EagleMan87
6 Dec 2007, 00:00
I wonder if it is because they are often sliders. What do you think?
I mean, Ebert was expected to go top 5/10, depending on who you asked. Almost nobody expected him to last to 13. It was the same with Hurn.
Maybe our huge amount of recruiters allows us to accurately rank players across the country and thus pick up the bargains. Most teams don't even have full-time recruiters over there.
With Ebert it's definately true, but Hurn was expected to slide a few weeks before the draft. Having said that, it doesn't mean that his slide was deserved, picking him at 13 was a steal:D
The question remains...
What are Adelaide and to a lesser extent Port Adelaides recruitment people thinking?
Class, all those players ( Ebert not so much)
Keyser Soze
6 Dec 2007, 00:57
The question remains...
What are Adelaide and to a lesser extent Port Adelaides recruitment people thinking?
Class, all those players ( Ebert not so much)
Not sold on Ebert BM :confused:
When I get time I'll try to have a look at who Port and Adelaide picked before our SA fab four.
We took Waters at 8 in 2004 I think - which was before the SA clubs had a chance, although they both passed on Butler and I think Port passed on Hurn and Adelaide obviously on Bert.
Not sold on Ebert BM :confused:
Just havent seen him play to judge is all, beside the odd highlight.
Oh yes the reports are great but I would like to make my own assessment. :)
Keyser Soze
6 Dec 2007, 01:09
Fair enough.
I was worried for a moment you were putting him in the Fletcher basket;)
Isandula
6 Dec 2007, 09:34
We took Waters at 8 in 2004 I think - which was before the SA clubs had a chance, although they both passed on Butler and I think Port passed on Hurn and Adelaide obviously on Bert.
Just to let you know Waters was taken at pick 11.
Have we had a bad SA yet? Seem to be able to pick the good ones so far.
Fair enough.
I was worried for a moment you were putting him in the Fletcher basket;)
:eek:
He cant be that bad can he?
:)
greennick
6 Dec 2007, 10:53
The question remains...
What are Adelaide and to a lesser extent Port Adelaides recruitment people thinking?
Class, all those players ( Ebert not so much)
What are you talking about Big Man? Ebert is an absolute GUN. He is hard at it, has exceptional foot skills, possesses good leadership skills, can play both inside and outside, has good endurance and most importantly has me on his side. Just you wait till I get my new thread on Ebert up on the BoP board, you will see how much of a GUN he is. :D
Eagles 4 Mine
6 Dec 2007, 12:05
What are you talking about Big Man? Ebert is an absolute GUN. He is hard at it, has exceptional foot skills, possesses good leadership skills, can play both inside and outside, has good endurance and most importantly has me on his side. Just you wait till I get my new thread on Ebert up on the BoP board, you will see how much of a GUN he is. :D
This is excatly why Voss wanted Brisbane to pick him up at 8 because he sees the excact same thing as he had a little to do with him in the U 18's.
He'll be a great players Im sure good get you mighty EAGLES..:thumbsu::D
Obeanie1
6 Dec 2007, 13:18
The question remains...
What are Adelaide and to a lesser extent Port Adelaides recruitment people thinking?
Class, all those players ( Ebert not so much)
Its not that difficult to understand really. In the past 3 years Adelaide finished 1st, 2nd and last year 8th.
Port has finished outside the 8 twice and 2nd last year.
All we need is for them both to target a non SA KPP or gun mid and then the best SA talent slip to the second round.
Vic clubs have been drafting alot of WA players as well as Victorians.
When we get to our best two picks we go for the best player available and the last few years those four SA boys have been the best available
unbelievacow
6 Dec 2007, 15:36
Let's hope Waters and Butler have lengthy, successful careers and remain one-club players, unlike our other two SA premiership players.
tonywce23
6 Dec 2007, 15:46
Let's hope Waters and Butler have lengthy, successful careers and remain one-club players, unlike our other two SA premiership players.
Our other two SA premiership players?
yeah, come again? What 2?
unbelievacow
6 Dec 2007, 15:48
Our other two SA premiership players?
David Hynes and Shane Bond
Underdog
6 Dec 2007, 16:00
I can think of Shane Bond...
who's the other...
Underdog
6 Dec 2007, 16:02
oh damn I type slow.
Neither Bond or Hynes were big losses
What are you talking about Big Man? Ebert is an absolute GUN. He is hard at it, has exceptional foot skills, possesses good leadership skills, can play both inside and outside, has good endurance and most importantly has me on his side. Just you wait till I get my new thread on Ebert up on the BoP board, you will see how much of a GUN he is. :D
Just havent seen him play to judge is all, beside the odd highlight.
Oh yes the reports are great but I would like to make my own assessment. :)
:D :thumbsu:
Its not that difficult to understand really. In the past 3 years Adelaide finished 1st, 2nd and last year 8th.
Port has finished outside the 8 twice and 2nd last year.
All we need is for them both to target a non SA KPP or gun mid and then the best SA talent slip to the second round.
Vic clubs have been drafting alot of WA players as well as Victorians.
When we get to our best two picks we go for the best player available and the last few years those four SA boys have been the best available
Yeah, cheers. :thumbsu:
hynes was a good player. we traded him to fremantle didnt we?
hynes was a good player. we traded him to fremantle didnt we?
For the rights to Phil Matera wasnt it?
For the rights to Phil Matera wasnt it?
correct.
Freo traded Phil Matera plus pick 3 in the draft to Eagles for Hynes
- stat taken from worst trades in history thread :thumbsu:
greennick
6 Dec 2007, 18:54
:D :thumbsu:
I know, but you see:
With pick # 4 I have decided to take one of our out of state draftees under my wings.
So, with it being a choice between Selwood jnr and Ebert, I figured Selwood has his brother, so Ebert most needs the love.
Therefore, my selection for pick # 4 is Brad "the South Australian Sensation" Ebert. Hopefully he will be able to crack a few games in the senior side this year for me.
Bath in his eternal glory:
http://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/portals/0/images/players/eagles/Brad_Ebert_135x200px.jpg
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5726998,00.jpg
:thumbsu:
Black JuJu
7 Dec 2007, 00:57
oh damn I type slow.
Neither Bond or Hynes were big losses
Hynes was a good player and good clubman, injuries ruined his career after he left WCE. Successful part time ruckman at just 188cm too.
Bond was a decent youngster who struggle with injury at the wrong time and got passed by the likes of Cousins, Morrison and Matera. Played some good footy for Port in their formative years.
Underdog
7 Dec 2007, 10:15
Hynes was a good player and good clubman, injuries ruined his career after he left WCE. Successful part time ruckman at just 188cm too.
No doubt but I still wouldn't say he was a big loss
It's remarkable now to think that a bloke shorter then Juddy was a AFL ruckman. Oh, how the game has changed over the last 15 years
people must be eating more wheaties these days
people must be eating more wheaties these days
Weet-Bix > wheaties
Weet-Bix > wheaties
yeah, who the **** eats wheaties anymore?
Isandula
7 Dec 2007, 12:34
Vita-Bix are the best they are way better the Weet-bloody-Bix
Keyser Soze
7 Dec 2007, 13:03
Froot Loops:thumbsu:
oats, egg whites and a protein shake: breakfast of champions :D
Vita-Bix are the best they are way better the Weet-bloody-Bix
Home brand, Wheat Biscuits:thumbsu:
Froot Loops:thumbsu:
nah froot loops suck balls.
The question remains...
What are Adelaide and to a lesser extent Port Adelaides recruitment people thinking?
Class, all those players ( Ebert not so much)
Port havent really had the chance to draft many of those players.
You picked up all three of Waters, Hurn and Ebert before Port had the chance. Chances are, I think we possibly would have drafted all 3. We were dead keen on Waters and obviously Ebert. Crows would have definately picked up Hurn but he went just before their pick (port didnt have a pick till about 30 from memory that year)
Cant remember about Butler and what pick he went at, but I think he was drafted just before our 2nd pick and we got Symes (who was similarly rated to Butler at the time)
Butler was pick 20 i believe
we got the pick for butler from geelong for haynes. pretty good trade for us.
Jimmy_the_Gent
7 Dec 2007, 14:13
we got the pick for butler from geelong for haynes. pretty good trade for us.
Yep, later on when Geelong delisted Hynes they came out and said that they came to realise why West Coast traded him.
I always wanted to know what that reason was. Did he have a huge flaw in his game or was he a nutter? Can anyone enlighten me?
didnt know that jimmy- curious myself now...i just thought he was dumped coz he was crud
Isandula
7 Dec 2007, 14:42
Froot Loops:thumbsu:
Coco Pops :thumbsu:
Froot Loops:thumbsu:
Mmmmmmmm yummy.
No doubt but I still wouldn't say he was a big loss
It's remarkable now to think that a bloke shorter then Juddy was a AFL ruckman. Oh, how the game has changed over the last 15 years
Yeah, but Hynes gave us versatility. Could play CHF, or ruck (filling in while Ball was developing). Was in the days where the Eagles didn't have CHFs. as such. Played in 2 SANFL premierships before he came to the Eagles.
Brayden Lyle was another decent SA recruit who went back to VC Port Power.
Bond won a premiership in his first year at the club and was super, super quick.
All three were decent players and the ones now all appear to be decent.
Port havent really had the chance to draft many of those players.
You picked up all three of Waters, Hurn and Ebert before Port had the chance. Chances are, I think we possibly would have drafted all 3. We were dead keen on Waters and obviously Ebert. Crows would have definately picked up Hurn but he went just before their pick (port didnt have a pick till about 30 from memory that year)
Cant remember about Butler and what pick he went at, but I think he was drafted just before our 2nd pick and we got Symes (who was similarly rated to Butler at the time)
True Macca, but Moylan is a pretty good recruiter, IMO, and they wouldn't have been far off his radar. He was there then?
From what I am seeing though, some port supporters are dirty that Ebert couldn't have been picked up under father/son, and fair enough too, being dirty that is.