View Full Version : Okay who are we going to pick up @ 7 in the Pre Season Draft and who's available?
Thoughts?
Are irrelevant. Facts are the club met on Monday and a decision probably wont be made until next Monday. Given the lack of action/talk I got a feeling we are just going to give a delisted player a second chance
FiveStrings
8 Dec 2007, 11:49
How about some thoughts on who we might pick up then?
I really think we need a third ruckman. Someone who'll be ready to step up in 2008 in case Cox and/or Seaby gets hit by injury. If not in the PSD then in the rookie draft.
Seeing as Richmond seem likely to overlook Guy Richards in favour of Collard, I think we should give him a serious look. He's never going to overtake Seaby but he showed in the semi this seaosn that he's capable of playing at AFL level. He'd be a handy backup in case of emergency.
Failing that, possibly a WAFL player like Griffiths or Ames.
Bellchambers might be available but I don't think he's what we need. Too much of a project player.
If we don't get a ruckman, there's a number of highly-rated juniors who missed out in the draft like Ashley Arrowsmith.
Who's suitable?
No idea. Literally none. Personally im a bit miffed at the whole situation. Whoever signs, I really cant see how they get a game. They will just sign on for a year and get delisted surely.
larrikin
8 Dec 2007, 12:01
If we go for a youngster I would hope it would be that kid from Subi - my mind's gone blank
How about some thoughts on who we might pick up then?
I really think we need a third ruckman. Someone who'll be ready to step up in 2008 in case Cox and/or Seaby gets hit by injury. If not in the PSD then in the rookie draft.
Seeing as Richmond seem likely to overlook Guy Richards in favour of Collard, I think we should give him a serious look. He's never going to overtake Seaby but he showed in the semi this seaosn that he's capable of playing at AFL level. He'd be a handy backup in case of emergency.
Failing that, possibly a WAFL player like Griffiths or Ames.
Bellchambers might be available but I don't think he's what we need. Too much of a project player.
If we don't get a ruckman, there's a number of highly-rated juniors who missed out in the draft like Ashley Arrowsmith.
Graham and Staker practice rucking at training. That should be good enough. I think Griffiths is training with Collingwood anyway
greennick
8 Dec 2007, 12:20
Graham and Staker practice rucking at training. That should be good enough. I think Griffiths is training with Collingwood anyway
So? Isn't our pick before Collingwood's?
If we go for a youngster I would hope it would be that kid from Subi - my mind's gone blank
Trent Dennis-Llane? Or is it Dennis Trent-Llane?
If we go for a youngster I would hope it would be that kid from Subi - my mind's gone blank
D.Gourdis?
daddy_4_eyes
8 Dec 2007, 16:44
If we go for a youngster I would hope it would be that kid from Subi - my mind's gone blank
That mature aged aboriginal guy? Been doing freaky things in the WAFL?
Whats his name? Yeah, that guy.
tonywce23
8 Dec 2007, 16:45
D.Gourdis?
I think Richmond will be picking up Gourdis
That mature aged aboriginal guy? Been doing freaky things in the WAFL?
Whats his name? Yeah, that guy.
Yeah thats right thingymabob, whatchamacallit.
I think Richmond will be picking up Gourdis
So do I.
dobbo_18
8 Dec 2007, 17:57
I thought that only players that are out of contract such as Guy Richards and Scott Welsh could nominate for the pre-season draft. Could someone please clear this up for me?
Keyser Soze
8 Dec 2007, 19:48
I thought that only players that are out of contract such as Guy Richards and Scott Welsh could nominate for the pre-season draft. Could someone please clear this up for me?
I was always of that opinion as well.
But I was wrong, pretty much anyone who registered for the national draft is also eligible for the PSD.
As far as I can tell, the main difference between the two drafts is that an uncontracted player such as Scott Welsh can bypass the national draft and nominate for the PSD only. The advantage of that is he can then nominate his contract terms which any club drafting him then has to honour.
Isandula
8 Dec 2007, 22:19
Wouldn't have the slightest idea what so ever!
So I guess someone that resembles a human that can play AFL is getting close to a good pick up :)
Wouldn't have the slightest idea what so ever!
So I guess someone that resembles a human that can play AFL is getting close to a good pick up :)
Wow, that post was as bad as one of Staker's shockers this season!
I mean, for the love of god, by those definitions McDuddal is someone that resembles a human that can play AFL. I mean, sure, he's no good at it, but he's a registered player.
The last permission to train list (dated 29th Nov) said that Ashley Thornton and Beau Wilkies were still training with us. Does anyone know if thats still the case?
http://www.afl.com.au/Default.aspx?tabid=208&newsId=53905
larrikin
9 Dec 2007, 00:32
D.Gourdis?
That's him
larrikin
9 Dec 2007, 00:33
I think Richmond will be picking up Gourdis
In the PSD?
Bugger
I think we will get one on of ellard, dennis-lane, gourdis, garlett or collard, (is there something wrong with him?:confused:), i don't think we will get a ruck until the rookie draft, there all similar now and wont play next year anyway.
I think we will get one on of ellard, dennis-lane, gourdis, garlett or collard, (is there something wrong with him?:confused:), i don't think we will get a ruck until the rookie draft, there all similar now and wont play next year anyway.
The word is Collard has the work ethic of dole bludger.
greennick
9 Dec 2007, 15:00
I was always of that opinion as well.
But I was wrong, pretty much anyone who registered for the national draft is also eligible for the PSD.
As far as I can tell, the main difference between the two drafts is that an uncontracted player such as Scott Welsh can bypass the national draft and nominate for the PSD only. The advantage of that is he can then nominate his contract terms which any club drafting him then has to honour.
Players that have been on a list can nominate their terms in the national draft too. I really fail to see what the difference is between the two drafts to be honest. All I see is the lack of priority picks and the picks can't be traded.
Isandula
9 Dec 2007, 17:59
Wow, that post was as bad as one of Staker's shockers this season!
I mean, for the love of god, by those definitions McDuddal is someone that resembles a human that can play AFL. I mean, sure, he's no good at it, but he's a registered player.
Was a very serious post for sure :rolleyes:
So why answer my so called crap post with a even crappier reply post?
Love how Staker was integrated into your reply, so very witty of you.
Was a very serious post for sure :rolleyes:
So why answer my so called crap post with a even crappier reply post?
Love how Staker was integrated into your reply, so very witty of you.
Because I feel like it, GOSH!
You didn't pick my humour. How disappointing.
Isandula
9 Dec 2007, 18:57
Because I feel like it, GOSH!
You didn't pick my humour. How disappointing.
My humor got lost effectively around 1.00pm today, was all god 'till then :mad::mad::mad:
Carn the Coasters
9 Dec 2007, 20:06
The word is Collard has the work ethic of dole bludger.
WCE do not want Collard. Guaranteed.
I think we will get one on of ellard, dennis-lane, gourdis, garlett or collard, (is there something wrong with him?:confused:), i don't think we will get a ruck until the rookie draft, there all similar now and wont play next year anyway.
I think you are pretty close to the money there, and I would also throw Luke Miles into the mix. Sure we can rookie him but I think a few others would have their eyes on him as a rookie.
Black Ball
9 Dec 2007, 22:33
That mature aged aboriginal guy? Been doing freaky things in the WAFL?
Whats his name? Yeah, that guy.
Ashley Sampi! :D:D:D:D:D
tonywce23
9 Dec 2007, 22:35
Ashley Sampi! :D:D:D:D:D
I thought it was Fremantle that picked up washed up duds?? :D
Meeting today to decide who we will take.
Dont be angry if Guy Richards ends up being a Eagle. You have been warned :cool:
FiveStrings
10 Dec 2007, 10:01
Seeing as Richmond seem likely to overlook Guy Richards in favour of Collard, I think we should give him a serious look. He's never going to overtake Seaby but he showed in the semi this seaosn that he's capable of playing at AFL level. He'd be a handy backup in case of emergency.
I won't be disappointed.
SS_Fury
10 Dec 2007, 10:15
theres not much around, so if richards is an eagle then so be it...i would be shocked if someone like Gourdis fell to us though
theres not much around, so if richards is an eagle then so be it...i would be shocked if someone like Gourdis fell to us though
Last time I vomitted. Who knows what ill do next if we pick up another KPP player. Probably break some face
FiveStrings
10 Dec 2007, 10:23
Last time I vomitted. Who knows what ill do next if we pick up another KPP player. Probably break some face
You're an angry man this morning Embers
SS_Fury
10 Dec 2007, 10:24
lol isnt he? Who knows what they have in store really
You're an angry man this morning Embers
7 days of work in a row and no sleep does that to a person. :cool:. I really am sick of tall forwards. There forming their own clique at the club. Soon they will be taking over. We will all have photos of Butch Brown, Lynchy and Hansen up on our walls and we will all be crowding these players begging for there autographs
We are the West Coast Eagles. This isnt right. Our forward line cant be good. It just cant
lol isnt he? Who knows what they have in store really
Pick 7 - Number 10301 - Ben Cousins - East Fremantle Football club
What a twist thatd be. Woody should read that our just for jokes :D
SS_Fury
10 Dec 2007, 10:37
ya know...im not sure how id react to that if they called that name out
larrikin
10 Dec 2007, 10:38
Meeting today to decide who we will take.
Dont be angry if Guy Richards ends up being a Eagle. You have been warned :cool:
Don't be suprised if there's a hole in my monitor then.
A long time Richmond member rang SEN last night - he said if Richmond pick up Richards he's giving up on the Tigers and buying a Kangaroos membership. Said he knew the family of Richards and that the guy would ever make it.
Don't be suprised if there's a hole in my monitor then.
A long time Richmond member rang SEN last night - he said if Richmond pick up Richards he's giving up on the Tigers and buying a Kangaroos membership. Said he knew the family of Richards and that the guy would ever make it.
Would it matter if he makes it or not. Whoever comes is simply here for a year so we can delist them and free up another spot and more salary cap room by old farting Braunie on the vets list. PSD picks are like Christmas tree decorations. They come out to play in December but are put in the closet afterwards and never see the day of light again
larrikin
10 Dec 2007, 11:07
Would it matter if he makes it or not. Whoever comes is simply here for a year so we can delist them and free up another spot and more salary cap room by old farting Braunie on the vets list. PSD picks are like Christmas tree decorations. They come out to play in December but are put in the closet afterwards and never see the day of light again
So what's the point then?
Why not just leave a space on the list?
FiveStrings
10 Dec 2007, 11:08
Pick 7 - Number 10301 - Ben Cousins - East Fremantle Football club
What a twist thatd be. Woody should read that our just for jokes :D
Hah. Demetriou would probably take the pic off us, the humourless bastard.
There's no chance the club will redraft Sampi is there?
So what's the point then?
Why not just leave a space on the list?
Silly question, but is that allowed?
No chance we will redraft Sampi. Have you seen the latest pics of him FiveStrings. Hes a bloody whale. Here it is
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee197/malexander1229/IMGP0522.jpg?t=1196655799
We would have to run out from the dugout in single file so Samps could fit those massive hips through the bloody banner.
FiveStrings
10 Dec 2007, 11:22
Silly question, but is that allowed?
No chance we will redraft Sampi. Have you seen the latest pics of him FiveStrings. Hes a bloody whale. Here it is
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee197/malexander1229/IMGP0522.jpg?t=1196655799
We would have to run out from the dugout in single file so Samps could fit those massive hips through the bloody banner.
I think it's allowed, but we're going to struggle to make the 92.5% of the salary cap now we've lost the salaries of Judd, Cousins, Chick and Jones. Anyway, if we don't want Richards or another recycled player we may as well just treat it as having the #1 pick in the rookie draft.
Good news, I was asking about Sampi out of fear that we might pick him up again.
Hawthorn may draft him, they seem to have a thing for fatties at the moment :D
The Bulldogs board raises a good suggestion. Barry Brooks. Hes better then Guy Richards atleast
Richards?
Only one way to describe that .
cbvabvawerpbvawerpbvhuwrbvuwebvubVJBwvbabv9pw :thumbsd: :mad: afawiuawebicbawibvirbviawbv :thumbsd::mad:
Richards?
Only one way to describe that .
cbvabvawerpbvawerpbvhuwrbvuwebvubVJBwvbabv9pw :thumbsd: :mad: afawiuawebicbawibvirbviawbv :thumbsd::mad:
Calm down. Fact is the meeting to decide who we get hasnt even happened yet. He is one of 5-6 on the list and we will probably pick the player who could actually play a game this year
Isandula
10 Dec 2007, 11:30
If we're going to pick up a ruckman, let it be half decent one at the very least. Richards isnt that and I'd be surprised (and not overly happy) if he were picked up :rolleyes:
larrikin
10 Dec 2007, 11:33
I think it's allowed, but we're going to struggle to make the 92.5% of the salary cap now we've lost the salaries of Judd, Cousins, Chick and Jones. Anyway, if we don't want Richards or another recycled player we may as well just treat it as having the #1 pick in the rookie draft.
Good news, I was asking about Sampi out of fear that we might pick him up again.
Hawthorn may draft him, they seem to have a thing for fatties at the moment :D
I liked how you included Jones in that list, although I somewhat doubt he broke the bank too badly :D
Does anyone know if we actually re-signes McKinley?
Calm down. Fact is the meeting to decide who we get hasnt even happened yet. He is one of 5-6 on the list and we will probably pick the player who could actually play a game this year
I am calm. :thumbsu:
Sico 17
10 Dec 2007, 11:44
Does anyone know if we actually re-signes McKinley?
Yes, he signed a few weeks ago, two years.
Also the meeting to discuss possibilities for the PSD was last week before they left for South Africa.
Yes, he signed a few weeks ago, two years.
Also the meeting to discuss possibilities for the PSD was last week before they left for South Africa.
Not according to The Worst. I thought it was all a bit odd. Didnt they create a list of six players a few weeks ago. A few SANFL players a few AFL trash and that Garlett bloke.
Whose going to be present at the rookie draft. Surely most of the coaches are still in the country until its done?
Sico 17
10 Dec 2007, 11:57
It is done by phone hook up. Woodies will do it from Perth.
It is done by phone hook up. Woodies will do it from Perth.
So it starts 8AM our time, Thats 2AM in South Africa. I doubt everyone is in South Africa at 2AM prepping themselves for the rookie draft. Surely one of the coaches stayed behind
It's such a pity that Jaymie Graham isn't a couple of inches taller, he would make a great back up ruckman seems to read the play well, can find space, has good disposal and seems to have a reasonable tank. Then we wouldn't have to even consider someone like R... R... Rich... Richar... can't even bring myself to say it.
Does anyone know is using the rack to stretch someone actually illegal:cool:
if we convinced daniel mcconnell to come back here i'd be up for it. he was promising in that 2005 period. i think he was just at a shitty club.
although he did go home due to homesickness so i doubt he wants to come back.
also..............
NO ****ING GUY RICHARDS!!!!!!!!!!
****ing hell, this guy is a wayyyyyy shitter ruckmen then any other slightly tall guy we got. god we could put staker in the ruck and i'd be happier.
Eagle_boy
10 Dec 2007, 12:57
No point picking up a ruckman if there is *no quality* in the draft. I can see WCE if need be pinch hitting with Lynch at times in the ruck, he isn't the worse option there.....still not convinced about Seaby though.
If WCE were so concerned in the ruck position Spaanderman should've been retained as he showed great signs for EP late last year. I'd say they are looking to next years draft for a *decent* ruckman and have their eyes on the guy from WA (?) who apparently stitched up Kruezer in the U18 champs.
larrikin
10 Dec 2007, 13:00
No point picking up a ruckman if there is *no quality* in the draft. I can see WCE if need be pinch hitting with Lynch at times in the ruck, he isn't the worse option there.....still not convinced about Seaby though.
If WCE were so concerned in the ruck position Spaanderman should've been retained as he showed great signs for EP late last year. I'd say they are looking to next years draft for a *decent* ruckman and have their eyes on the guy from WA (?) who apparently stitched up Kruezer in the U18 champs.
We'd need to start tanking now
Jimmy_the_Gent
10 Dec 2007, 13:09
We'd need to start tanking now
Trade Judd - Check
Delist Cousins - Check
I've heard some good things about Barry Brooks from the VFL. I heard that we were looking at him (that was a while ago though). Does anyone know more about him? Is he in contention?
I would probably prefer we pick up the best young player, regardless of position, rather than a mature age ruckman.
Eagle_boy
10 Dec 2007, 14:01
I've heard some good things about Barry Brooks from the VFL. I heard that we were looking at him (that was a while ago though). Does anyone know more about him? Is he in contention?
I would probably prefer we pick up the best young player, regardless of position, rather than a mature age ruckman.
He's already been at Port and the Saints....if he couldn't make it there I doubt he would go any better here!!
Obeanie1
10 Dec 2007, 15:09
It's such a pity that Jaymie Graham isn't a couple of inches taller, he would make a great back up ruckman seems to read the play well, can find space, has good disposal and seems to have a reasonable tank. Then we wouldn't have to even consider someone like R... R... Rich... Richar... can't even bring myself to say it.
Does anyone know is using the rack to stretch someone actually illegal:cool:
I seem to recall he is classed as our back up ruckman, similar to Lynch and to some extent Staker.
Graham is 198 cm
Lynch 194 or 196
Staker 196
People are talking about Staker playing midfield more next year, I seem to recall he does OK around the ground as a ruck / rover sort. OK in ball ups and throw in's but centre bounces simply isn't tall enough OR have enough determination.
How tall is Kennedy? 198cm, Jones?
I'd stick to our strategy of getting the best talent available, we have enough tall options until next draft IMO.
sydney eagle
10 Dec 2007, 15:27
No point picking up a ruckman if there is *no quality* in the draft. I can see WCE if need be pinch hitting with Lynch at times in the ruck, he isn't the worse option there.....still not convinced about Seaby though.
If WCE were so concerned in the ruck position Spaanderman should've been retained as he showed great signs for EP late last year. I'd say they are looking to next years draft for a *decent* ruckman and have their eyes on the guy from WA (?) who apparently stitched up Kruezer in the U18 champs. I think his name is Natanui or something like that. The Eagles would really have to tank like Carlton to have a chance of drafting him. People are already talking about him being pick number 1 next year !
sydney eagle
10 Dec 2007, 15:30
I seem to recall he is classed as our back up ruckman, similar to Lynch and to some extent Staker.
Graham is 198 cm
Lynch 194 or 196
Staker 196
People are talking about Staker playing midfield more next year, I seem to recall he does OK around the ground as a ruck / rover sort. OK in ball ups and throw in's but centre bounces simply isn't tall enough OR have enough determination.
How tall is Kennedy? 198cm, Jones?
I'd stick to our strategy of getting the best talent available, we have enough tall options until next draft IMO. Kennedy is quoted as being 195 cm in my "AFL RECORD Guide to Season 2007".
Ashley Arrowsmith would be a great pick up if he lasted to pick 7. Highly rated, just doesnt have pace. Would be a good outside player for us. 188cm.
smilingassassin
10 Dec 2007, 17:58
Ashley Arrowsmith would be a great pick up if he lasted to pick 7. Highly rated, just doesnt have pace. Would be a good outside player for us. 188cm.
At last a great suggestion. How arrowsmith was missed in the national draft is wierd.
Also McGinnity who shut down Cotchin in the WA v Vic Metro game is another who was very unlucky.
McKinleyISgood
10 Dec 2007, 18:22
Yes, he signed a few weeks ago, two years.
nah just one yr
dobbo_18
10 Dec 2007, 19:05
Originally Posted by smilingassassin
At last a great suggestion. How arrowsmith was missed in the national draft is wierd.
I'd prefer it if we picked a back-up ruckman, such as Tom Bellchambers.
Bestbird
10 Dec 2007, 19:16
We could pick up some slightly overage players like Priddis a few years ago to add some depth seeing we have lost quite a bit of experience over the last couple of years. Trevor Oliver impressed in the WAFL this year so he could be a chance
A ruckman would be great but as mentioned, if the recriuters don't think there is one that will cut it in the AFL it is a waste of a pick. A small natural forward with pace like Garlett would also be handy
larrikin
10 Dec 2007, 20:08
nah just one yr
You a mate or something?
Genesis67
10 Dec 2007, 20:58
At last a great suggestion. How arrowsmith was missed in the national draft is wierd.
Also McGinnity who shut down Cotchin in the WA v Vic Metro game is another who was very unlucky.
Doubt McGinnity will last to 7.
Cruize Garlett has superb skills, and that mercurial small forward still eludes us. Wouldnt'd mind giving him a crack. When Kennedy, Brown, TBU and Hunter all go up for the same mark, we're gonna need someone at their feet....
Keyser Soze
10 Dec 2007, 21:09
I think we should talk Rojo out of retirement and bring him back.
I'm serious.
;)
Ambrose Burnside
10 Dec 2007, 21:19
Doubt McGinnity will last to 7.
Cruize Garlett has superb skills, and that mercurial small forward still eludes us. Wouldnt'd mind giving him a crack. When Kennedy, Brown, TBU and Lynch all go up for the same mark, we're gonna need someone at their feet....
He's just so damn good people think there are two of Him :cool:
MaxHunt
10 Dec 2007, 21:55
He's just so damn good people think there are two of Him :cool:
I think he talking about Notte circa 2009
:thumbsu::D
If WCE were so concerned in the ruck position Spaanderman should've been retained as he showed great signs for EP late last year. I'd say they are looking to next years draft for a *decent* ruckman and have their eyes on the guy from WA (?) who apparently stitched up Kruezer in the U18 champs.
agreed about spaanders, might be that we have a have another wafl or sanfl ruckman in mind though.
Chances of getting Natanui next year is zero unless we can get a top 5, probably top 3 pick. I don't rate him all that greatly anyway (well, not top 3 pick anyway)
McGinnity it is, Cotchin will be shaking in his boots. :)
Keyser Soze
11 Dec 2007, 09:14
Patrick McGinnity taken at pick 7.:thumbsu:
Good pick up for us I feel.
With McNamara and McGinnity we now have two run with midfielders to develop.
Patrick McGinnity taken at pick 7.:thumbsu:
Good pick up for us I feel.
With McNamara and McGinnity we now have two run with midfielders to develop.
J-Mac can be better then that. The guys a ball stringer. He doesnt need to be tagging no bitch. He should be getting tagged himself ;)
Obeanie1
11 Dec 2007, 09:41
At last a great suggestion. How arrowsmith was missed in the national draft is wierd.
Also McGinnity who shut down Cotchin in the WA v Vic Metro game is another who was very unlucky.
Well Merry Christmas Woosha, you got both your choices, McGinnity first and Arrowsmith slipped to the second round.
Who's the other lad?
At last a great suggestion. How arrowsmith was missed in the national draft is wierd.
Also McGinnity who shut down Cotchin in the WA v Vic Metro game is another who was very unlucky.
Isnt it funny that we got both!!! :thumbsu:
Stoked with McGinnity, should be a good pick up.
Underdog
11 Dec 2007, 10:26
So Sampi is gone now...cya mate
Serves him right for substandard efforts
I was hoping he would get his shit together but refusing tests then walking away from the club for other opportunities was pathetic
Ambrose Burnside
11 Dec 2007, 10:34
So Sampi is gone now...cya mate
Serves him right for substandard efforts
I was hoping he would get his shit together but refusing tests then walking away from the club for other opportunities was pathetic
Yeah, didn't the Eagles offer him yet ANOTHER chance , which he refused in order to train with Melbourne?
Sampi, you're a retard :thumbsd:
Yeah, didn't the Eagles offer him yet ANOTHER chance , which he refused in order to train with Melbourne?
Sampi, you're a retard :thumbsd:
We werent going to offer him another chance. He was too fat. He simply left before the inevitable happened
Underdog
11 Dec 2007, 10:48
We werent going to offer him another chance. He was too fat. He simply left before the inevitable happened
but we gave him every opportunity to prove his worth right until list submission time, but he thought it'd be easier to play for Melbourne...
but we gave him every opportunity to prove his worth right until list submission time, but he thought it'd be easier to play for Melbourne...
Yeh pretty much. He didnt prove much though