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campbell
14 Jul 2002, 10:29
What gives.
He is getting far too frustrated. Abusing his team mates. Kneeing oppositon players in places you never touch, let alone knee.Disgraceful act that.
Hopefully the holiday he will get from his latest indiscretion, will let him see the error of his ways, and become a nice little team player again.
I doubt it though.
LionsRock!
14 Jul 2002, 12:38
Jason obviously has some issues at the moment. At full time when Vossy came onto the ground to lead the players off they were all in a big group and Jason was standing out of the pack on his own.
BrisGirl
14 Jul 2002, 15:45
I was ashamed of his actions last night.
He needs to go for that display as it reflects badly on the game and especially from the reigning Brownlow Medalist.
FattyLumpkin
14 Jul 2002, 18:03
Don't know about Akka - maybe a holiday would do him some good.
he's a bloody good player though - too good to even think about letting go. Just get "between the ears" right!!
Fatty
SpecialBruce
14 Jul 2002, 20:44
He will probably go for 1 - 2. Gives Martin a huge chance of coming back. However, I still believe there was no contact made and that Richmond player took a dive. My eyes show that, I don't know what other people think.
Defender
14 Jul 2002, 23:44
i think it looks worse than it is..especially when they slow it down and agree with ya no contact made so whats the deal there
if theres a fight and a punch is thrown but no contact is made doesnt that mean no contact is made
it was an obvious stouch and not pretty..i think akker needs to stick his head in hes been a bit of lair on lots of different levels lately..theres gotta be issues there
but agreed hes a gun player when he is going..and the lions need him!!
SpecialBruce
15 Jul 2002, 00:15
He is a match winner when on fire. Hopefully its not more than 2 weeks becuase we need him for Essendon.
BrainOfMorbius
15 Jul 2002, 13:38
Having already been suspended for kneeing this year, I can see him going for more than 2.
NathanD
15 Jul 2002, 13:56
Originally posted by BrainOfMorbius
Having already been suspended for kneeing this year, I can see him going for more than 2.
I agree BrainOfMorbious - when I saw it I thought that 2-3 would be approriate. Buckley will get fined though!!
Sorry for intruding on your board, but I think Aka can look forward to a reasonably lengthy holiday. Probably 3 weeks. The tribunal have already shown that they aren't interested in how hard the contact is (just look at the Fletcher incident) Even if Aka barely touched him, I think he will be watching Brisbane v Essendon from the stands (I hope ;) )
lioncub
15 Jul 2002, 18:34
When Aka spoke out about the potential Carey arrival at the Lions - I was very happy to let him voice his opinion - everyone should have that right.. right?? I mean it was "just aka being aka" ...
Each week he finds a way of working his way into the headlines.. which is fine when it's a bit of harmless controversy- "Good for raising the Game's profile" BUT when it becomes showing aggro to a fellow team member, and then kneeing a player in the families.. standing apart from the team after a game... considering everything, he seems to have lost the plot!
Very self focused and not being "part of the team" - Lethal really needs to do something soon to set him straight! A suspension may be just what he needs to give him time to reflect on his performances both on and off the field over the next (hopefully only 1) week. Aka has been crucial to our side this year BUT if he keeps going the way he is - his attitude may end up being the downfall of team morale..
This close to the finals we need EVERY member of the team focusing on the TEAM not themselves
Originally posted by TD
Even if Aka barely touched him
He'd hardly need to, to inflict any damage in that region anyway! :eek:
campbell
16 Jul 2002, 09:07
Now that he has been charged, he should get 4 weeks.
It is not his 1st offence for kneeing this year. He can't argue that it was an accident, as he was standing up, and it looked intentional.
Not good for the whole team Aka.
goal_umpire
16 Jul 2002, 10:09
I went to primary school with Aka. I went to Mildura West Primary School with him. His brother was in my class.
He won't get 4 weeks because he will plead guilty and will get 2 weeks
campbell
16 Jul 2002, 11:29
Funny, Aka's brother did a stint of umpiring.
NathanD
16 Jul 2002, 11:29
Originally posted by lioncub
When Aka spoke out about the potential Carey arrival at the Lions - I was very happy to let him voice his opinion - everyone should have that right.. right?? I mean it was "just aka being aka" ...
Each week he finds a way of working his way into the headlines.. which is fine when it's a bit of harmless controversy- "Good for raising the Game's profile" BUT when it becomes showing aggro to a fellow team member, and then kneeing a player in the families.. standing apart from the team after a game... considering everything, he seems to have lost the plot!
Very self focused and not being "part of the team" - Lethal really needs to do something soon to set him straight! A suspension may be just what he needs to give him time to reflect on his performances both on and off the field over the next (hopefully only 1) week. Aka has been crucial to our side this year BUT if he keeps going the way he is - his attitude may end up being the downfall of team morale..
This close to the finals we need EVERY member of the team focusing on the TEAM not themselves
I'm starting to think that there are shades of Hueskes here......
Please don't let it be so.
lioncub
16 Jul 2002, 13:18
Originally posted by NathanD
I'm starting to think that there are shades of Hueskes here......
Please don't let it be so.
Oh god that would be devastating! at least Hueskes slunk off without attention beign drawn.. but I don't think aka's a "bad person"
goal_umpire
16 Jul 2002, 15:22
Originally posted by campbell
Funny, Aka's brother did a stint of umpiring.
I never knew that.
When Rory was little he used to be really shy. .(removed a story here that wasn't very appropriate - Danni)
The teacher was a cow of a person
Suzi - not a nice story to tell everyone!!!
Then again might explain Rory's rebellious nature when confronted with his schools. He certainly wasn't sorry to see the back of his student days from what he has told me.
Anyways Suzi - just an update for you. As of Sunday July 7th, Rory is the proud daddy of a little girl, a sister to his 3yo son. All seem fine and well.
Cheers
D.
NathanD
16 Jul 2002, 15:45
Originally posted by suzi_olsen
I never knew that.
When Rory was little he used to be really shy....
The teacher was a cow of a person.
I'm not sure that was really necessary to tell the world about.
I think Aka should take a week off with no training and just let himself relax. he is obviously not handling the extra attntion he is getting this season all that well and he just has to unwind.
He got 2 and can count his lucky stars it wasn't more considering he has been done once this season already.
BrainOfMorbius
17 Jul 2002, 09:16
While Aka's suspension will rob us of a lot of drive from the middle, in some ways it's almost a relief that he'll be out of the spotlight for a couple of weeks.
I just hope he uses the time to take stock and sort out whatever's been bothering him the last few weeks.
I'd like to take Aka at his word - that it was accidental. The Richmond player admitted he milked the incident hoping to be awarded a 50M penalty - I just hope this comes back to haunt him some day, so he knows what it feels like to be a target.
BrisGirl
17 Jul 2002, 11:42
There is no reason on earth for Akermanis's behaviour.
There comes a certain responsibility at being the reigning Brownlow Medalist and he doing himself and injustice with his recent indiscretions.
Just of late it is almost that he is going out of his way to behave badly on the playing field.
Regardless that he might or might not have made contact, you do not aim for that part of the anotomy on men. I always thought that was an unwritten rule.
I can only hope that he has a good hard look at himself in the next two weeks, as he has no reason to be unhappy, he has a Premiership Medal and a Brownlow. He can walk away from his football career knowing he accomplished what many couldn't, but I do not want him to finish his career being known for unsportsmanlike play.
He is better than that.
Well from what I hear his reaction to his penalty is not a good sign of him pulling his head in.
I think he needs some serious time with the sports psychologist. His attitude needs re-aligning.
OldLion
17 Jul 2002, 13:33
It wouldn't surprise me if Jason is 'The Man's' next opponent in the ring the way things are going. We've seen it all before - with Carmen, Jacko, Dipper, Brian Wilson ( not the Beach Boy ), even Crawford - just 'cause you are listened to doesn't mean you have anything to say.
Say it on the field with your mates. If that arena is too small for you, then this sport is not for you.
campbell
17 Jul 2002, 13:35
Maybe he and his wife, can take a little holiday away to an island. Chill out.etc.
Come back refreshed, rejuvinated.
He seems to have hit the skids, bigtime, worseluck.
If he continues, he may be looking at serious ressie time.I can't see him liking that either.
Can't have aplayer disrupt the whole player group, continually.
BrisGirl
17 Jul 2002, 14:25
Personally, I hate to see the jumper shown on TV news in a bad light.
It is the jumper he is letting down with his undisiplined behaviour.
Getting good or any, publicity for our game here in Brisbane is hard enough without a Brisbane player doing damage and spoiling the good work conducted by the Media and Marketing Groups of the Brisbane Lions.
I agree with 'kimp', Akermanis needs time with the sport Psychologist.
Originally posted by BrisGirl
Personally, I hate to see the jumper shown on TV news in a bad light.
It is the jumper he is letting down with his undisiplined behaviour.
Getting good or any, publicity for our game here in Brisbane is hard enough without a Brisbane player doing damage and spoiling the good work conducted by the Media and Marketing Groups of the Brisbane Lions.
I agree with 'kimp', Akermanis needs time with the sport Psychologist.
Agree about the jumper being shown in a bad light. However, can't understand why everyone seems to think this is a new attitude from Aka. I seem to remember him thumping the bejesus out of that Irish guy in the International Rules game a couple of years ago.
What Aka is doing is what a lot of good players in our comp. are now doing. The ball-players are taking matters into their own hands, because they receive no protection from umpires. Taggers with an eighteenth of the ablity of say, Buckley, Lloyd, McLeod get paid huge sums of money to negate these talented players. They don't operate within the rules, but don't get caught. Pinching, biting and scratching have become part of our manly game. Still, the only thing that matters is winning. Damn the spectators who pay their salaries. Winning is all. And they have the temerity to call it sport.
As for recommending Aka see a sports psychologist, what would this achieve? How would a conversation with someone who believes in the efficacy of the quackery which is psychology, be of any help? He'd be better off to talk to Roger Merrett. At least Roger could give him some clues about not getting caught.
NathanD
17 Jul 2002, 15:31
Nice work skilts - very refreshing
goal_umpire
18 Jul 2002, 15:22
Originally posted by Danni
Suzi - not a nice story to tell everyone!!!
Then again might explain Rory's rebellious nature when confronted with his schools. He certainly wasn't sorry to see the back of his student days from what he has told me.
Anyways Suzi - just an update for you. As of Sunday July 7th, Rory is the proud daddy of a little girl, a sister to his 3yo son. All seem fine and well.
Cheers
D.
That's great to hear. Please pass on my congratulations to him for me.:cool: :cool:
BrainOfMorbius
18 Jul 2002, 15:32
Originally posted by skilts
As for recommending Aka see a sports psychologist, what would this achieve? How would a conversation with someone who believes in the efficacy of the quackery which is psychology, be of any help? He'd be better off to talk to Roger Merrett. At least Roger could give him some clues about not getting caught. Psychology isn't quackery, it's based on standardised testing and assessment. You might be thinking of psychiatry.
Originally posted by BrainOfMorbius
Psychology isn't quackery, it's based on standardised testing and assessment. You might be thinking of psychiatry.
My mistake Brain. Anything which has standardised testing must be legitimate. Not to mention standardised assessment. What a relief.
BTW, are psychologists still trying to masquerade as being scientific?
The Lions take their sports psychologists very seriously and the players all speak of the huge impact that it's made to the team. Aka obviously needs mental tools to deal with the attention he's receiving both on and off the field.
I'm sorry I haven't seen Vossy being cited and this was a guy who was being pinned down by his neck by Primus for minutes after the play was continued past them. He obviously has something that allows him to deal with it.
And I'm sorry but the actions of both Aka and Buckley were both pretty cowardly and pathetic no mater what the provocation was.