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Holland drops hint over Pies skipper
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BRODIE HOLLAND has hinted Collingwood may have decided its captain for season 2008.
Holland told radio station SEN that Nick Maxwell and Josh Fraser sat either side of coach Mick Malthouse for the official team photo this week.
The captain and his deputy traditionally sit next to the senior coach in the photo, suggesting Maxwell and Fraser are vying for the prestigious honour at the Magpies.
"It will be interesting to see what happens, it's a tough call," Holland said.
Football operations manager Geoff Walsh confirmed Collingwood's captain will be announced soon.
"It could be as early as next week but maybe after the last practice match," Walsh said.
There is plenty of interest in who will captain Collingwood, with Nathan Buckley retiring last season after nine years in the role.
Sportsbet has suspended betting on the captaincy after punters laid heavily on Fraser, whose odds shortened from $5 to $1.80 more than a fortnight ago.
Fraser and Maxwell appear to have beaten Tarkyn Lockyer, who was the stand-in captain for the Magpies against Adelaide in their NAB Cup opener in Dubai, veteran Scott Burns and rising stars Scott Pendlebury and Heath Shaw.
spartan-magpie
28 Feb 2008, 18:52
i hope its not fraser... i want a tuff bloke as a captain and while 86 isnt no leigh mattews.... he goes in very hard and this is what is required as a leader...
alexander the great was always at the frontlines during battle...
also, still upset with josh fraser not playing finals... i know he was crook..but still not happy..
GETSOMENUTS
28 Feb 2008, 19:02
if an article on our future capt. was penned on the "evidence" of photo placements then jeezus!
Big Bucks
28 Feb 2008, 19:54
i hope its not fraser... i want a tuff bloke as a captain and while 86 isnt no leigh mattews.... he goes in very hard and this is what is required as a leader...
alexander the great was always at the frontlines during battle...
also, still upset with josh fraser not playing finals... i know he was crook..but still not happy..
Alexander the great was a poof. thats why he was at the front.
Pie eyed
28 Feb 2008, 20:22
Alexander the great was a poof. thats why he was at the front.
That made me laugh....
There is really no knowing how a player will react to such honors as Captaincy.
Fraser may surprise a lot of people if he is chosen...
dalethomas13
28 Feb 2008, 21:09
The writing is on the wall. Although it can be argued, Fraser is the 'chosen one' and will captain our club with Maxwell as his deputy- unofficially of course.
Traditionally in team photos, the captain always sits to the right handside of the senior coach just as Fraser is, not the left as another poster said with Rocca.
The team photo sold it for me and quite frankly im excited with Josh leading us into the future- he was my first preference but I would have been happy and supportive of whoever had been given the gig.
Exciting times ahead.
GETSOMENUTS
28 Feb 2008, 21:10
Alexander the great was a poof. thats why he was at the front.
If Alexander was a fag surely he would be coming from the rear...:D
hellfire
28 Feb 2008, 21:53
Fraser and Rocca sat either side of Mick. Maxwell sat next to Fraser.
GETSOMENUTS
28 Feb 2008, 22:26
Well if it comes down to fraser or Maxwell I would prefer Maxwell. A lot of very good captains are not always the most skillful player on the team but the guy that has the ability to lift his team with some hard nosed play when required. Maxwell is as tough as they get in our side, Fraser wont be able to physically lift the team with some extraordinary physical feat.
Maxwell was already in the leadership group so he obviously is not introverted and can get a message across.
It baffles me that people such as tony shaw say he wont be a regular member of our best 22, FFS who coming through has shown enough to seriously push him out?
With Wakes in his last lap and presti (maybe) likewise, Maxwell aint going anywhere. And besides his play merits selection week in, week out. .
Tarkyn_24
28 Feb 2008, 22:34
Basing the prediction on a photo???
Tarks or Burnsy, surely, if Collingwood had any common sense whatsoever, would have to get the gig ahead of Fraser.
torana82
28 Feb 2008, 23:29
Traditionally in team photos, the captain always sits to the right handside of the senior coach just as Fraser is, not the left as another poster said with Rocca.
That is false look on the 2007 team photo buckely is on malthouse left and he was the captain. which is where rocca was sitting and fraser on his right vice captain (clements old spot)
dalethomas13
28 Feb 2008, 23:55
Traditionally in team photos, the captain always sits to the right handside of the senior coach just as Fraser is, not the left as another poster said with Rocca.
That is false look on the 2007 team photo buckely is on malthouse left and he was the captain. which is where rocca was sitting and fraser on his right vice captain (clements old spot)
Yehh you're right there but I'm positive the captain in most cases sits to the right hand side of the senior coach and the deputy either next to him or on the other side of the coach i.e Judd and Stevens.
Basing the prediction on a photo???
I think it is based more on what Holland said
F$%k I hope it isn't Maxwell!
Hope its ****ing neither Heath Shaw should get the job
CENTERMAN
29 Feb 2008, 09:06
Scotty Burns ahead of Maxwell. Frazer is soft and has been here for years now and still no results....Burns REALLY deserves this one and it will give nick a couple of seasons without pressure to get ready. The timing would be perfect and we would be rewarding a true legend of the club.
privatopia
29 Feb 2008, 10:01
I can't believe how critical people are on here of Josh Fraser. The bloke has had absolutely no support for yonks and tries his friggen heart out for us every week yet even Pies supporters call him soft and a hack and sure, he has a disposition that can come across as meek, and a loping kind of run that may make him look lazy, but come on, you watch the matches don't you? The blokes a champ and we're lucky to have him resigned and committed.
Hopefully, with Cam Wood on board, we'll get to see Fraze stretch out a bit this year and become more flexible around the ground so he can show off his range of skills.
I'm not a big one for wild predictions that seem so popular on BF but if Josh can finish the season in our top 3 B&F we'll have a friggen good season, captian or not.
Also, I think too much importance is being placed on who is our captain. We have a definitive leadership group that incorporates all the fellas being mentioned as prospective captains who are all very influencial in the club and know their place. One of those blokes will be picked to do the interviews and go to the meetings but that doesn't devalue anyone. Lets just play some friggen footy as a team.
Scotty Burns ahead of Maxwell. Frazer is soft and has been here for years now and still no results....Burns REALLY deserves this one and it will give nick a couple of seasons without pressure to get ready. The timing would be perfect and we would be rewarding a true legend of the club.
Ludicrous!! Fair enough if you don't want him as captain and I'm in the same boat of wanting Sir Scott as captain for a year or so till others rise up but to suggest Josh is soft couldn't be further for the truth!! Have you not seen the amount of knocks he has taken over the years and still got up to play? The guys gets down and can rover his own ball. What about the times when he's thrown up because of a knock and still played on? Soft?!!!??? That is a joke.
I'd be very happy if Josh is named captain. He was always touted as being one for a very, very long time but my concern at this point in time is the fact he hasn't been able to get on the ground constistently which is why I'd prefer Scotty to take it on.
sunnyTEE
29 Feb 2008, 11:01
I can't believe how critical people are on here of Josh Fraser. The bloke has had absolutely no support for yonks and tries his friggen heart out for us every week yet even Pies supporters call him soft and a hack and sure, he has a disposition that can come across as meek, and a loping kind of run that may make him look lazy, but come on, you watch the matches don't you? The blokes a champ and we're lucky to have him resigned and committed.
Hopefully, with Cam Wood on board, we'll get to see Fraze stretch out a bit this year and become more flexible around the ground so he can show off his range of skills.
I'm not a big one for wild predictions that seem so popular on BF but if Josh can finish the season in our top 3 B&F we'll have a friggen good season, captian or not.
Also, I think too much importance is being placed on who is our captain. We have a definitive leadership group that incorporates all the fellas being mentioned as prospective captains who are all very influencial in the club and know their place. One of those blokes will be picked to do the interviews and go to the meetings but that doesn't devalue anyone. Lets just play some friggen footy as a team.
Agreed. Nothing worse when supporters become negative nancy's.
All the candidates are superb, we have an excellent leadership group and a very balanced club. Whom ever gets the position I shall be happy with, (particular if its Maxwell or Burnsy;)).
Im just excited about the new season starting!
spartan-magpie
29 Feb 2008, 13:09
-alexander might have been bi-sexual.. but when it comes to giving credit where it is due, he has no peers....
-and while we are on the topic there is no clear evidence to prove that he was having relationships with men... if u study many of the NON_GREEK historians that wrote books on alexander, those writers were actually gay.... THEY WERE GLORIFYING HOMOSEXUALITY..
so before u speak and do the research.. next u'll tell me alexander wasn't a greek macedonian either..
p.s i think big bucks has a crush on getsomenuts.. or maybe getsomenuts wants big bucks'.
spartan-magpie
29 Feb 2008, 13:16
Alexander the great was a poof. thats why he was at the front.
If Alexander was a fag surely he would be coming from the rear...:D
I can't believe how critical people are on here of Josh Fraser. The bloke has had absolutely no support for yonks and tries his friggen heart out for us every week yet even Pies supporters call him soft and a hack and sure, he has a disposition that can come across as meek, and a loping kind of run that may make him look lazy, but come on, you watch the matches don't you? The blokes a champ and we're lucky to have him resigned and committed.
Hopefully, with Cam Wood on board, we'll get to see Fraze stretch out a bit this year and become more flexible around the ground so he can show off his range of skills.
I'm not a big one for wild predictions that seem so popular on BF but if Josh can finish the season in our top 3 B&F we'll have a friggen good season, captian or not.
Also, I think too much importance is being placed on who is our captain. We have a definitive leadership group that incorporates all the fellas being mentioned as prospective captains who are all very influencial in the club and know their place. One of those blokes will be picked to do the interviews and go to the meetings but that doesn't devalue anyone. Lets just play some friggen footy as a team.
i think josh could be in 2nd best ruckman in the comp... he has all the attributes requires adn can do with with some help.. he has been a very good player for us no doubt.. but i dont see fraser being able to inspire the boys either with deeds or words...
PieLebo87
29 Feb 2008, 15:47
What a major shock it'd be if Rocca got the captaincy for a year or two until he retired as one of the younger stars developed their leadership skills :p
spartan-magpie
29 Feb 2008, 15:58
-id like to see rocca get the captaincy.. it would probably improve his footy by 20%...
but then again he'd probably go in alot harder and get suspended more...
Stakerz
29 Feb 2008, 16:10
Hope its ****ing neither Heath Shaw should get the jobAgreed.
Please get back on the topic now.
Lockyer24
1 Mar 2008, 18:27
Our captains a ruckman who spends all day haning out on the wing. :(
TerryWallet
1 Mar 2008, 19:55
Our captains a ruckman who spends all day haning out on the wing. :(
you're captain is a ruckman who's not good enough to play ruck.
you had to swap your only decent draft pick to pick up another clubs 3rd string ruckman because he's better than your captain.
then again you can always give it to the wannabe tough guy who's not really good enough to be guaranteed a game.
strange process this Collingwood captaincy thing.
you're captain is a ruckman who's not good enough to play ruck.
you had to swap your only decent draft pick to pick up another clubs 3rd string ruckman because he's better than your captain.
then again you can always give it to the wannabe tough guy who's not really good enough to be guaranteed a game.
strange process this Collingwood captaincy thing.
Our captain has played over 100 games just for our club.
Your captain hasnt played one yet and is now a mercenary
our captain loves collingwood and will die for it
your captain lobves money and couldnt give a stuff about your club
The wannabe tough guy has hurt your captain before
the wannabe tough guy would be your number defender any day of the week
the wannabe tough guy has also only ever played for collingwood,like i said earlier your captain has never played for your club ever
none of our captains have injuries that willdog them forever you captain does
Want me to continue any more mate?
TerryWallet
1 Mar 2008, 20:25
no need to get narky Optimax.
its just that your captaincy situation is in a shambles. just like ours was when we appointed Lance and had guys like Fevola, Scotland,and a kid like Gibbs as his backups.
no need to defend Judd. he is like your previous captain. only fools would bag them.
Collingwood has some great kids who could be leaders in a few years....H.Shaw, Thomas,Goldsack,Pendelbury,Cloke. Their claim on the future captaincy will be in their leadership in the next few years.
But in the meantime you are in a twilight zone. Their is NO good choice.
just like us with Lance.
Our captains a ruckman who spends all day haning out on the wing. :(
He gets the ball everywhere, what a stupid call. He gets it on the wing alot because that's where the space is. And when he has run his opposition ruckman ragged and runs off him and provides an extra option that we would not have had we a lumbering and ruckman that's not as footy smart as Fraser.
buddy_who
1 Mar 2008, 22:05
my moneys on fraser
Pie eyed
2 Mar 2008, 21:16
no need to get narky Optimax.
its just that your captaincy situation is in a shambles. just like ours was when we appointed Lance and had guys like Fevola, Scotland,and a kid like Gibbs as his backups.
no need to defend Judd. he is like your previous captain. only fools would bag them.
Collingwood has some great kids who could be leaders in a few years....H.Shaw, Thomas,Goldsack,Pendelbury,Cloke. Their claim on the future captaincy will be in their leadership in the next few years.
But in the meantime you are in a twilight zone. Their is NO good choice.
just like us with Lance.
Only the discussion on this board re: our Captain is in shambles.
Not surprisingly those involved in the decision at the club are probably not really involved in these threads.....and a captain worthy of the position will be appointed in due course.
I think it is a little different to have numerous players available who are capable of being captain than it is to have to appoint whoever is available as Carlton did with Whitnall.
The Carlton captaincy was seen, a lot like the England Cricket Captaincy, as a poison chalice....hopefully that will change with Judd at the very least.
Thommo 42
2 Mar 2008, 22:37
no need to get narky Optimax.
its just that your captaincy situation is in a shambles. just like ours was when we appointed Lance and had guys like Fevola, Scotland,and a kid like Gibbs as his backups.
no need to defend Judd. he is like your previous captain. only fools would bag them.
Collingwood has some great kids who could be leaders in a few years....H.Shaw, Thomas,Goldsack,Pendelbury,Cloke. Their claim on the future captaincy will be in their leadership in the next few years.
But in the meantime you are in a twilight zone. Their is NO good choice.
just like us with Lance.
So Scott Burns a respected 200+ game one-club player who lead the club in clearances last year and is still performing, would be a poor choice?
Carlton wishes they had a bloke like Burns as a captaincy candidate. Instead their leadership teams consists of 2 blokes tha wanted to come to Collingwood, one didn't get here because we wouldn't trade and the other because we wouldn't pay!
you're captain is a ruckman who's not good enough to play ruck.
you had to swap your only decent draft pick to pick up another clubs 3rd string ruckman because he's better than your captain.
then again you can always give it to the wannabe tough guy who's not really good enough to be guaranteed a game.
strange process this Collingwood captaincy thing.
Whatever you say spoonboy :p
TerryWallet
2 Mar 2008, 22:45
So Scott Burns a respected 200+ game one-club player who lead the club in clearances last year and is still performing, would be a poor choice?
Carlton wishes they had a bloke like Burns as a captaincy candidate. Instead their leadership teams consists of 2 blokes tha wanted to come to Collingwood, one didn't get here because we wouldn't trade and the other because we wouldn't pay!
Thommo,
i have stated before that i think Burns is the logical and only choice. He has universal respect in the footy world.
but this thread was indicating it is a choice now between Josh and Maxwell. One can only assume Burns doesn't want the captaincy.
As a result i think its fair to state what i did.
Alexander may have been homosexual, but that doesn't make him a great leader of men. It seems Hephaestion was, at least, his very close confidante if he wasn't his lover.
danharris#4
3 Mar 2008, 10:19
Why is everyone looking past the obvious!
Paul Medhurst should be made captain for his ever reliable consistent performances and team-first approach. What is Mick Malthouse thinking? No wonder we didn't get a player picked in the All Australian team last year!
Pie eyed
3 Mar 2008, 10:49
Alexander may have been homosexual, but that doesn't make him a great leader of men. It seems Hephaestion was, at least, his very close confidante if he wasn't his lover.
Don't start that again....
Have you not seen the amount of knocks he has taken over the years and still got up to play? The guys gets down and can rover his own ball. WhatList them:i think josh could be in 2nd best ruckman in the comp... he has all the attributes requires List them:
Thommo,
i have stated before that i think Burns is the logical and only choice. He has universal respect in the footy world.
but this thread was indicating it is a choice now between Josh and Maxwell. One can only assume Burns doesn't want the captaincy.
As a result i think its fair to state what i did.
Yeh! Make somebody with one season left captain. Very smart and what I would expect from a Carlton supporter after the Lance Fathead Whitnall fiasco.
Timmy from Thomastown
3 Mar 2008, 12:13
Yeh! Make somebody with one season left captain. Very smart and what I would expect from a Carlton supporter after the Lance Fathead Whitnall fiasco.
Buckley had one season left last year, and he was still made captain. Didnt affect us too much.
I dont think Burns only having one year left should affect the decision. In fact is a reason why he should be picked.
Beacuse an extra season gives us an extra 3 or 4 candidates to choose from this time next year for a long term leader.
Agree with Timmy 100%. I have just 1 question for you goalpie:
Why on earth would you settle for second best captain just because you may not have the first best captain as captain the following year? How does that possibly help?
Agree with Timmy 100%. I have just 1 question for you goalpie:
Why on earth would you settle for second best captain just because you may not have the first best captain as captain the following year? How does that possibly help?
Because the club needs to think to the future. Looks like even Burns thinks this as well as I would expect from a selfless character.
Timmy from Thomastown
3 Mar 2008, 12:35
Because the club needs to think to the future..
Picking the best captain is entirely consistent with that goal.
Godfrey Jones
3 Mar 2008, 12:38
Buckley had one season left last year, and he was still made captain. Didnt affect us too much.
I dont think Burns only having one year left should affect the decision. In fact is a reason why he should be picked.
Beacuse an extra season gives us an extra 3 or 4 candidates to choose from this time next year for a long term leader.
wtf, that is nowhere near the same thing,
but despite that i fully agree with you. my best case scenario is burns for the next year or two, then heath shaw will be more than ready to lead us for the next 10+ years lol
Timmy from Thomastown
3 Mar 2008, 12:39
Looks like even Burns thinks this as well as I would expect from a selfless character.
Source? I have not seen Burns say that he doesnt want the captaincy.
Believe me he has, just not to the media. ;)
Timmy from Thomastown
3 Mar 2008, 13:27
Believe me he has, just not to the media. ;)
Until he's officially out of the running, I'll assume he's still in the running.
The only reason that Burns should not be captain is if he doesnt want it, or if he has undiclosed injury concerns. Even then he should be told he's bloody well doing it anyway!!.
Collingwoods captain will have 5 in their number, the only questio is will their be a 2 or just a 5.
I heard Scott Burns on radio a month or so back. Was left with the distinct impression he would love to captain Collingwood. As I have said numerous times he is so far and away the best candidate that if anyone is chosen then our decision makers need replacement.
Because the club needs to think to the future.You have given me nothing except cliché. You didn’t answer the question.
All clubs always need to think of the future but it is all relative. We have to give ourselves the best chance to take this years opportunity. We might not have an opportunity in 2 or 3 years.
In any event, in the future, who captains Collingwood this year will make no difference to the capability of whoever captains Collingwood between 2010 and 2020. It could, however detrimentally impact on a Fraser tyring to get fit and win his position, a Maxwell trying to cope with giving away free kicks or being forced to play FB or CHB in the absence of Presti or a Heath Shaw trying to establish himself as a genuine top flight AFL player. Any of those would be better equipped in 12 or even more so 24 months time to captain. Alternatively someone else might emerge as the best choice.
The West Indies used to attack the captain on the basis that they could best attack the side if the undermine the captain. The Israelis have a saying that you kill a snake by cutting off its head. Anyone but Burns leaves us exposed. That is quite apart from the folly of the theory that you accept second best this year because this years best may not be available next year.
I heard Scott Burns on radio a month or so back. Was left with the distinct impression he would love to captain Collingwood. As I have said numerous times he is so far and away the best candidate that if anyone is chosen then our decision makers need replacement.
If you are talking about the SEN interview he said those exact words:- If I was asked to Captain Collingwood I would love to do it. He should do it.
If you are talking about the SEN interview he said those exact words:- If I was asked to Captain Collingwood I would love to do it. He should do it.I think it was 3aw but I’m not positive.
Big Bucks
3 Mar 2008, 19:28
I think it was 3aw but I’m not positive.
I can,t believe the Club has not laid this Captaincy issue to bed by now.
Burns is the man, he wants it, he deserves it, and he is by far and away the only true leader of this Club at this present time.
Heater,Cloke and Pendles time will come.
Fraser is no leader
Maxwell is a limited footballer.
Thommo 42
3 Mar 2008, 19:40
I can,t believe the Club has not laid this Captaincy issue to bed by now.
Burns is the man, he wants it, he deserves it, and he is by far and away the only true leader of this Club at this present time.
Heater,Cloke and Pendles time will come.
Fraser is no leader
Maxwell is a limited footballer.
Burns is the best option, but there is no need to denigrate others in making this judgement. Fraser would make a fine captain, and would be my 2nd choice by a significant margin.
I can,t believe the Club has not laid this Captaincy issue to bed by now.
Burns is the man, he wants it, he deserves it, and he is by far and away the only true leader of this Club at this present time.
Heater,Cloke and Pendles time will come.
Fraser is no leader
Maxwell is a limited footballer.
Burns already plays like a captain.
If Josh was made Captain and rose to the challenge and played like a Captain with an increased desire and desparation we would probably win the flag.
My personal choice is Burns, but if josh gets the nod I really look forward to seeing him rise to the challenge
Timmy from Thomastown
4 Mar 2008, 08:01
Interesting choice of words in the Sun today. They say its "a four way tussle between Scott Burns and Tarkyn Lockyer, plus Josh Fraser and Nick Maxwell". It might have just been a clumsy sentence, but they imply that Burns and Lockyer are the front-runners, and the other two are just behind the pace.
Timmy from Thomastown
4 Mar 2008, 08:58
In order, my preferences are
Burns
daylight
more daylight
Fraser
Maxwell
Heath Shaw
Lockyer
This time next year I expect H Shaw, Pendlebury and Cloke to join/climb the list.
Godfrey Jones
4 Mar 2008, 12:39
i wanted to create a new thread for this, but apparantly i'm not allowed to just yet (because im a newbie i guess??)
Pies Captain Likely to be Announced This Week (http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,23314626-19742,00.html)
Burns, 33, has played 247 games for the Magpies and commands a lot of respect from the player group, as does Lockyer, 28.
The alternative is to go for a long-term leader as the Magpies did with Buckley, which brings Fraser, 26, or Maxwell, 24, into calculations.
Heresy perhaps but it was a mistake appointing Buckley when we did. He wasn’t ready. The leadership training we gave him when we realised he was deficient should have preceded his replacement of Brown.
The fact that it has taken so long to choose a captain is a disgrace.
The fact that it has taken so long to choose a captain is a disgrace.
Oh, FFS just be patient.
Its so obvious Tooves will be the man.
Godfrey Jones
4 Mar 2008, 23:21
The fact that it has taken so long to choose a captain is a disgrace.
FFS< how is it a disgrace. I think the club is handling it very well...
It's like when everybody was on Judd's back for the length of time he took to decide which club he wants to move to...learn to be patient.
and thank your lucky stars that the problem we're having is too many good options, rather than carlscum having to resort to someone like whitnall for lack of a better option :)
Pie eyed
5 Mar 2008, 00:03
MarkT,
I don't think the world of sport was quite as up on "transitional training", "media grooming" and the like when Bucks was made captain....even then it was a simpler, more "think inside the square" type of world.
You are probably right though, he was chucked in at the deep end.
To Buck's credit I think he was a very good captain though.
Heresy....yes.
I don't think the world of sport was quite as up on "transitional training", "media grooming" and the like when Bucks was made captain....even then it was a simpler, more "think inside the square" type of world.The real issue was his relationship and interaction with the players. That took some work. To his credit he did the work and became a very good leader of our club but he was not nearly ready when given the gig. People really do underestimate the role of captaincy. I am convinced it is one of the flaws in St. Kilda’s makeup in recent years. If you ever hear Wayne Schwas speak about Carey and his leadership on and off the field you will get a feel for what I mean. I know off field Carey is a train wreck now but when it was needed he took the players out, they let of steam and went back to train on what they needed to do.
Big Bucks
5 Mar 2008, 15:35
FFS< how is it a disgrace. I think the club is handling it very well...
It's like when everybody was on Judd's back for the length of time he took to decide which club he wants to move to...learn to be patient.
and thank your lucky stars that the problem we're having is too many good options, rather than carlscum having to resort to someone like whitnall for lack of a better option :)
Thats quite funny, i like your sense of humour.
Pie eyed
5 Mar 2008, 15:36
I agree with what you are saying.
But I think most young captains failings are directly related to youth and lack of experience, on-field and off.
Godfrey Jones
5 Mar 2008, 16:43
Thats quite funny, i like your sense of humour.
i cant tell if you're being sarcastic or not :o
but i really do believe that we have too many good options, lol
Personally, I don't consider Maxwell a good option and am quite scared that he is being considered...
I agree with what you are saying.
But I think most young captains failings are directly related to youth and lack of experience, on-field and off.That half my concern with nominating someone other than Burns and particularly why I’d like to buy a year or two for someone like Heath Shaw. In Buckley’s case it was also partly due to his personality. The same as why he got dubbed FIGJAM at Brisbane. He wasn’t the average new draftee. I think that is something the club should have recognised and addressed. It eventually did. It may have cost us Paul Williams although that is speculative based on unsubstantiated rumours.
Read The Hun tomorrow and all will be revealed!