team for round 1.

[rioli brownlow]

now we have seen our nab cup hopes finish (thanks to the men in green) heres my team line up for round 1.

B. slattery,michael,ryder
H.B. nlm,fletcher,nash
C. dyson,watson,stanton
HF. davey,lucas,mcphee
F. neagle,lloyd,reimers
FOLL. hille,mcveigh,monfries
INTER. houli,dempsey,rama,laycock,
EMERG. myers,lovett,peverill

[un_eggs]

now we have seen our nab cup hopes finish (thanks to the men in green) heres my team line up for round 1.

B. slattery,michael,ryder
H.B. nlm,fletcher,nash
C. dyson,watson,stanton
HF. davey,lucas,mcphee
F. neagle,lloyd,reimers
FOLL. hille,mcveigh,monfries
INTER. houli,dempsey,rama,laycock,
EMERG. myers,lovett,peverill

Monfries out, Welsh in. He has shown nothing in the Bank-sponsored Cup to suggest he should be named as a first choice on-baller.

[angus6]

i dont think neagle will be in the side just yet. would wait and see how he goes for bendigo.

not sure if rama is afl ready yet either may need a couple more games under his belt. the question with him is where is his best position? i dont believe he is suited to a back pocket.

i think slattery should be out but then again the question is who plays that back pocket position.

i believe peverill and welsh both deserve to play. as does leroy jetta.

JJ? is he ready or needs a few more games under his belt as we know he did start the pre season late

[angus6]

Monfries out, Welsh in. He has shown nothing in the Bank-sponsored Cup to suggest he should be named as a first choice on-baller.

are you serious? his first two nab games were great. admit he was of the boil tonight but he wasnt the only one. and dont blame him for that last free kick either. there were other instances in the game that could have changed the results and it only involved essendon players and not the umpires

[DonMania#5]

B: Adam Ramanauskas, Mal Michael, Nathan Lovett-Murray

HB: Jay Nash, Dustin Fletcher, Paddy Ryder

C: Bachar Houli, Jobe Watson, Ricky Dyson

HF: Andrew Welsh, Scott Lucas, Adam Mcphee

F: Alwyn Davey, Matthew Lloyd, Angus Monfries

FOL: David Hille, Brent Stanton, Mark McVeigh

INT: Jason Laycock, Leroy Jetta, Courtenay Dempsey, Jason Johnson

Jason Winderlich out due to rib injury.

[adamcf]

Sorry mate, Angus hadn't done much in any of the 3 games.. except crucial turn overs and basic skill errors. He's not a defender, he's not an on-baller and as a crumbing forward he's not but tap either. Not sure where to fit him in.

I'd play Neagle before Johns however, so if there's a spot for 1 extra tall up forward then he'd get a pozzie.

[adamcf]

B: Adam Ramanauskas, Mal Michael, Nathan Lovett-Murray

HB: Andrew Welsh, Dustin Fletcher, Paddy Ryder

C: Bachar Houli, Jobe Watson, Ricky Dyson

HF: Andrew Lovett, Scott Lucas, Adam McPhee

F: Alwyn Davey, Matthew Lloyd, Leroy Jetta

FOL: David Hille, Brent Stanton, Mark McVeigh

INT: Jason Laycock, Damien Peverill, Kyle Reimers, Henry Slattery

EMG: Courtenay Dempsey, Jay Nash, David Myers.

Wouldn't start Dempsey or Nash at the moment as their attack at the footy was ok, however, their disposal left a lot to be desired. One thing is getting the pill another is hitting a target.

[hulld]

monfries sucks. he has had enough chances. i am a sick of him

[SirJimi05]

ROFL at people jumping off Monfries after one average game.

I am willing to bet anyone $100 that he will be in the team come round 1.

Any takers?

[pazza]

B: Slattery, Michael, Fletcher
HB: Lovett-Murray, Ryder, Nash
C: Dempsey, Watson, Ramanauskas
HF: Jetta, Lucas, Reimers
F: Hille, Lloyd, Davey
R: Laycock, Stanton, McVeigh
Int: Welsh, Peverill, Dyson, Houli
Emerg: Johnson, Neagle, Monfries

McPhee and Winderlich not considered due to injury concerns.
Lovett not considered for disciplinary reasons.

[DonMania#5]

Mcphee should be allright for Round 1, he probably would have played this week if it was a home and away game.

[rioli brownlow]

Monfries out, Welsh in. He has shown nothing in the Bank-sponsored Cup to suggest he should be named as a first choice on-baller.

did you know on the 16th feb 2008 we played a game of footy against brisbane lions?
you must not , because if you did you would of seen angus be in our top 3 players

[SirJimi05]

did you know on the 16th feb 2008 we played a game of footy against brisbane lions?
you must not , because if you did you would of seen angus be in our top 3 players


He did some great work out of the centre last week also.

A monty for round one.

[dave_27]

Welsh and Lovett-Murray in particular are certs for round 1.

Dempsey has alot of work to do and isnt in my round 1 side to be honest.

[un_eggs]

are you serious? his first two nab games were great. admit he was of the boil tonight but he wasnt the only one. and dont blame him for that last free kick either. there were other instances in the game that could have changed the results and it only involved essendon players and not the umpires

Mate, I'll repeat it again. He has shown nothing to suggest he is a FIRST CHOICE onballer... even in the first two games. Welsh and Jetta would provide more for round 1 IMHO. And if you dive on the ball and hold it in... it's a free kick... schoolboy error. FWIW I hope he turns it around, he's just not there yet.

[kelvin_sheedy]

B: Dustin Fletcher, Mal Michael, Nathan Lovett-Murray
HB: Jay Nash, Paddy Ryder Courtenay Dempsey
C: Andrew Lovett, Jobe Watson, Ricky Dyson
HF: Andrew Welsh, Scott Lucas, Adam Mcphee
F: Alwyn Davey, Matthew Lloyd, Leroy Jetta
FOL: David Hille, Brent Stanton, Mark McVeigh
INT: Jason Laycock, Bachar Houli, Adam Ramanauskas, Damien Peverill

EMG: Angus Monfries, Henry Slattery, David Myers

Winderlich injured. If ok then might take the spot of Pev or Rama or even Welsh!

Players highlighted are the ones that can make the difference to how we go this year. They can give us pace and run.

Can Dyson translate NAB form and make fools of us and become an AFL player?

Is Houli ready to make an impact as an AFL mid similar to Selwood and Pendlebury last year?

Can Dempsey provide the dash off half back that we've been missing?

On what I've seen so far I think thats the best team we can go with.

[lemon chicken]

B. Rama, Mal, Fletcher
HB. Nash, Ryder, Dempsey
C. McVeigh, Houli, McPhee
HF. NLM, Lucas, Jetta
F. Davey, Lloyd, Laycock
R. Hille, Watson, Stanton
I/C Dyson, Welsh, Monfries, Reimers/Slattery(only if a tag is needed)

Lovett and Winderlich automatic in's if available


Probably missed someone.:)

[PressureCooker]

I'm just looking forward to having a settled line up for a few weeks. All this chopping and changing hasn't really shown us much about the team apart from the fact some of our youngsters can stand up from time to time.

I think once we have some consistancy in our team selections, we will have a far better indication as to where we are at as a group.

[boms]

well looking at it, its gotta be something like this -

BEST 25

B: SLATTERY – MICHAEL – FLETCHER
HB: NASH – RYDER – LOVETT-MURRAY
C: DYSON – WATSON - WINDERLICH
HF: MCPHEE – LUCAS – WELSH
F: DAVEY – LLOYD – JETTA
R: HILLE – MCVEIGH – STANTON
INT: LAYCOCK – MONFRIES – LOVETT – DEMPSEY
EMG: RAMANUSKAS – HOULI – REIMERS

[PressureCooker]

well looking at it, its gotta be something like this -

BEST 25

B: SLATTERY – MICHAEL – FLETCHER
HB: NASH – RYDER – LOVETT-MURRAY
C: DYSON – WATSON - WINDERLICH
HF: MCPHEE – LUCAS – WELSH
F: DAVEY – LLOYD – JETTA
R: HILLE – MCVEIGH – STANTON
INT: LAYCOCK – MONFRIES – LOVETT – DEMPSEY
EMG: RAMANUSKAS – HOULI – REIMERS
I'd have Rama in ahead of Slatts, Nash and Dyson.

[SOT4]

B: Adam Ramanauskas, Mal Michael, Nathan Lovett-Murray

HB: Andrew Welsh, Dustin Fletcher, Paddy Ryder

C: Bachar Houli, Jobe Watson, Ricky Dyson

HF: Andrew Lovett, Scott Lucas, Adam McPhee

F: Alwyn Davey, Matthew Lloyd, Leroy Jetta

FOL: David Hille, Brent Stanton, Mark McVeigh

INT: Jason Laycock, Damien Peverill, Kyle Reimers, Henry Slattery

EMG: Courtenay Dempsey, Jay Nash, David Myers.

Wouldn't start Dempsey or Nash at the moment as their attack at the footy was ok, however, their disposal left a lot to be desired. One thing is getting the pill another is hitting a target.

Both of those are guarenteed to start barring injury. To not have Nash in for round 1 is completely insane.

[flying dutchman]

Both of those are guarenteed to start barring injury. To not have Nash in for round 1 is completely insane.

Is ackinson on rookie list absolute gun IMO good size backs himself in reminds me of Harry O'Brian. Not to impressed with Welsh doesnt do enough for a so called leader, big courtney johns did nothing last night apart from his last quarter goal needs to drasically improve his 2nd and 3rd efforts. I like dempsey and nash running off half back.

[boms]

I'd have Rama in ahead of Slatts, Nash and Dyson.
Nope, 3 midfielders in the bench is great while Slatts and Nash do there jobs in defence.

[jdwood]

IMO there is absolutely no room for Slattery in the side, he just doesn't bring enough to the table....


FB: Fletcher - Michael - Welsh

HB: Nash - Ryder - NLM

C: Monfries - Watson - Houli

HF: Reimers - Lucas - McPhee

FF: Davey - Lloyd - Jetta

C: Hille - Stanton - McVeigh

Int: Dyson - Laycock - Lovett - Dempsey (I'm not sold on, but conceed he will get a spot)

Emerg: Rama - Pev - Myers

Inj: Winderlich

[bomberstomake8]

B: Adam Ramanauskas, Mal Michael, Nathan Lovett-Murray

HB: Andrew Welsh, Dustin Fletcher, Paddy Ryder

C: Bachar Houli, Jobe Watson, Ricky Dyson

HF: Andrew Lovett, Scott Lucas, Adam McPhee

F: Alwyn Davey, Matthew Lloyd, Leroy Jetta

FOL: David Hille, Brent Stanton, Mark McVeigh

INT: Jason Laycock, Damien Peverill, Kyle Reimers, Henry Slattery

EMG: Courtenay Dempsey, Jay Nash, David Myers.

Wouldn't start Dempsey or Nash at the moment as their attack at the footy was ok, however, their disposal left a lot to be desired. One thing is getting the pill another is hitting a target.

nash should be started, he has been in our top players every game i played and imo has the best disposal in our team.. i would like neagle to be played, maybe not round 1 but definately should be given a shot early in the year... johns was pathetic last night should not get a game, he is almost certain to be delisted already this year, which is a shame because he has potential.. he just doest work hard enough., your teams pretty ogod i would go in nash, out reimers or peverill

[Spikey]

Is ackinson on rookie list absolute gun IMO good size backs himself in reminds me of Harry O'Brian. Not to impressed with Welsh doesnt do enough for a so called leader, big courtney johns did nothing last night apart from his last quarter goal needs to drasically improve his 2nd and 3rd efforts. I like dempsey and nash running off half back.


Yeah,Atkinson is on the rookie list.

Thought Welsh went pretty well (But Don35 won't say that:p)

Neagle's game means Johns has slipped futher back in the ranks IMO

[GoDons]

B: Fletcher Michael Ramanauskas
HB: Nash Ryder Lovett-Murray
C: Lovett Watson Dyson
HF: McPhee Lucas Welsh
F: Davey Lloyd Jetta
Foll: Hille Stanton McVeigh
Inter(from): Laycock Houli Monfries Dempsey Hocking Slattery Peverill

[bomberstomake8]

imo we need to have either gumbelton/neagle playing every game possible..

if we are going to focus on developing our kids these are two kids who must be played.. if gumby is out for round 1 i would strongly consider having neagle in there. i realise with lloyd lucas mcphee hille/laycock it can get too tall on occasions but we need to make it work otherwise barring injuries gumby/neagle will get very limited game time this year which is not whats best for our long term future

[bloods01]

Welsh and Lovett-Murray in particular are certs for round 1.

Dempsey has alot of work to do and isnt in my round 1 side to be honest.

Spot on. He coughts it up way to much and his decision making is a little suspect also. Yes he's quick and takes them on, but that doesn't necessarily ensure him a Round 1 start IMO.

Welsh on the other hand has played some great footy accross half back. Not sure why he's in the forward line now? :confused:

[TheDon35]

Monfries out, Welsh in. He has shown nothing in the Bank-sponsored Cup to suggest he should be named as a first choice on-baller.

Would dissagree that Monfries should be out of the side. Particularly if you want to replace him with Welsh.

McPhee, Lucas, Lloyd and one of Hille and Laycock are all in the forward line. Throw in a couple of smaller forwards and there is no room for him.

Up to Bendigo Welshy!

[Windas_Magic]

B: Fletcher Michael Lovett-Murray
HB: Nash Ryder Dempsey
C: Lovett Watson Monfries
HF: McPhee Lucas Davey
FF: jetta Lloyd Welsh

FOLL: Hille Stanton McVeigh

INT: Laycock, Hocking, Rama, Houli

EMG: Dyson, Slattery, Neagle

[SM10]

B: Slattery - Michael - Fletcher
HB: Nash - Ryder - Dempsey
C: NLM - Stanton - Houli
HF: McVeigh - Lucas - McPhee
F: Laycock - Lloyd - Jetta
R: Hille - Watson - Davey
I/C: Welsh - Monfries - Dyson - Lovett

[Hislop200]

FB Rama Michael fletcher

HB Nash Ryder Lovettmurray

C Lovett Watson Stanton

HF Mcfee Lucas Davey

FF Laycock Lloyd Jetta

FOL Hille McVeigh Monfries

INT Houli Dempsey Dyson Pev

Emerg Welsh Reimers Hocking

[acebomer]

B: Fletcher Michael Lovett-Murray

HB: Nash Ryder Dempsey
C: Lovett Watson Monfries
HF: McPhee Lucas Davey
FF: jetta Lloyd Welsh

FOLL: Hille Stanton McVeigh

INT: Laycock, Hocking, Rama, Houli


EMG: Dyson, Slattery, Neagle

this line up looks right to me:thumbsu: maybe slatts should be in the 22

[Colin D'Cops]

B : Rama - Michael - Ryder
HB : Nash - Fletcher - Dempsey
C : Winderlich - Stanton - McPhee
HF : Davey - Lucas - Lovett
F : Welsh - Lloyd - Laycock
FOLL : Hille - McVeigh - Watson
I/C : Jetta - Nathan LM - Monfries - Houli / Dyson

[bomberstomake8]

this line up looks right to me:thumbsu: maybe slatts should be in the 22

i personally think dyson should be ahead of lovett to start in our 22, he has earnt it this pre season and i think we have to remember that lovett is hardly a proven midfeilder.. its either lovett who is unproven and hasnt played a game the whole pre season or dyson who is unproven who has been very good in pre season matches before.. i vote dyson

[donsman4eva]

I'd hope Rama would be in our best 22 after his performance last night. He was great IMO. Neagle to get some game time hopefully, but wont be too disappointed if he misses out. There are others that deserve a game ahead of him, but its just that with Gumby injured, he is our 3rd tall, so he might get a game.

[p3zd1sp3nx0r]

B : Rama - Michael - Ryder
HB : Nash - Fletcher - Dempsey
C : Winderlich - Stanton - McPhee
HF : Davey - Lucas - Lovett
F : Jetta - Lloyd - Laycock
FOLL : Hille - McVeigh - Watson
I/C : Peverill - Nathan LM - Reimers - Houli

[Margim]

Cannot believe how little so many people rate Welsh. One of our more consistent, reliable players over many years.

[Tyler16]

I think we really need winderlich in there, he was good last year. Cant have jj, pev, and watson in the same game. Monfries is hard done by, i think he will be ok.

[DaSawx]

Winderlich is struggling to make round 1 but would be in the best 22 easily

[jules101]

B: Pev Michael Nash
HB: Rama Fletcher Dempsey
C: Dyson Stanton Lovett
HF: NLM Lucas Davey
F: Monfries Lloyd Welsh
R: Hille McVeigh Watson
I: Laycock, McPhee, Houli, Ryder
E: Slattery, JJ, Hocking

Reimers, Jetta in the mix too. Winder for Dyson if he was fit.. Might come back thru the reserves tho...

[cAsEy_18]

B. Dempsey, michael,ryder
H.B. Hocking, Fletcher,nash
C. dyson,stanton Houli
HF. davey,lucas,mcphee
F. Lovett, lloyd,reimers
FOLL. hille,mcveigh,monfries
INTER. Watson, Slattery, Jetta,Welsh


With the way we are hopefully going to attempt to play this year, you cant have Michael, Fletcher, Ryder, Hille, Laycock, Lloyd, Lucas and Neagle in the same team. Gotta drop at least 2-3 of them, if we're going to be a running side. Can't play 10-12 runners and keep them on the ground the entire game and expect people like Davey to be sprinting still come to the final quarter.

[efcboy]

B : Slattery - Michael - Ryder
HB : Nash - Fletcher - Rama
C : Monfries - Watson - Dempsey
HF : McPhee - Lucas - Lovett
F : Davey - Lloyd - Welsh
FOLL : Hille - McVeigh - Stanton
I/C : Laycock - Nathan LM - Dyson - Houli
Emerg: Peverill - Hocking - Jetta
(winderlich out injured)

[fishguts]

Ryder--michael--ramanauskas

Nash---fletcher---lovett-murray

Houli--watson--mcphee

Jetta--lucas--monfries

Davey--lloyd--jetta

R:hille--stanton--peveril

I/c Laycock--dempsey--dyson--welsh

[Schmick]

B: Rama Michael Fletcher
HB: Dempsey Ryder Nash
C: Dyson Mcveigh Stanton
HF: Davey Lucas Mcphee
F: Jetta Lloyd Hille
FOLL: Laycock Monfries Houli
INTER: Watson Welsh Hocking Lovett

[GuzzLG]

The way I see it:

B:.....Slattery........Michael..........Lovett-Murray
HB:...Ryder.........''.Fletcher.........Nash
C:.....(*)..............Stanton.........(*)
HF:...Welsh...........Lucas............McPhee
F:.....Davey........'..Lloyd............Jetta
R:.....Hille..........'...McVeigh........(*)
I:....,'Laycock.....(*).......(*).......(*)

*6 positions to be comprised from the following:
Dyson, Watson, Monfries, Rama, Peverill, Lovett, Johnson, Dempsey, Reimers, Hocking, Houli.

Those selected will be on the basis of forming a midfield rotation that will work well together, rather than just selecting the 'best' 22.

[angus6]

Rama - Michael - Ryder
Nash - Fletcher - Dempsey
Dyson - Watson - Houli
McPhee - Lucas - Davey
L-Murry - Lloyd - McVeigh
Hille - Stanton - Monfries
Welsh - Laycock - Peverill - Reimors

[donsman4eva]

FB: Nash, Michael, Fletcher
HB: Dempsey, Ryder, Rama
C: Dyson, Watson, McPhee
HF: Welsh, Lucas, NLM
FF: Lovett, Lloyd, Davey
Rucks: Hille, McVeigh, Stanton
Interchange: Laycock, Houli, Jetta, Neagle
E: Monfries, Reimers, Peverill.

This is what I would like to see, not necessarily what will happen.

FWIW, I think Monfries and Peverill will play ahead of Jetta and Neagle, but i dont think they deserve it, especially Monfries. For someone who was meant to have a "breakout" year last season, he has delivered very little.

[d-mac3276]

B NLM Michael Ryder
HB Nash Fletcher Dempsey
C Dyson Watson Stanton
HF Jetta Lucas McPhee
F Davey Lloyd Neagle
R Hille McVeigh Monfries
I Houli Laycock Reimers Welsh

E Peverill Slattery Hocking

[johnmason]

Monfries out, Welsh in. He has shown nothing in the Bank-sponsored Cup to suggest he should be named as a first choice on-baller.


couldnt agree more.

he has shown he is a decent footballer but would struggle in our 22.

needs to show y he is so highly rated?

anyone know? short, not the best skills, decent hands and just dives on every ball resulting in htb decisions. eg st kilda!

please help me?

[HighettBomber]

I can't beleive so many people get stuck into Monfries and cut Slattery some slack. He has been absolutely awful. He's a good tackler, but I can't think of anything else positive to say about his football at the moment.

[GoDons]

I can't beleive so many people get stuck into Monfries and cut Slattery some slack. He has been absolutely awful. He's a good tackler, but I can't think of anything else positive to say about his football at the moment.

Henry's been disappointing to date, no doubt. He's still not finding the football, his tackling has been a touch over zealous and he just doesn't seem to be improving.

However, Henry's one of the few guys we've got that can tag successfully and I wouldn't be surprised if that alone gets him into the side for Round 1.

Personally, I'd rather Heath Hocking in the 'run with' role with Rama played as the small defender.

[Ludwig van Bertstare]

B: Dustin Fletcher, Mal Michael, Adam Ramanauskas
HB: Jay Nash, Paddy Ryder, Nathan Lovett-Murray
C: Ricky Dyson, Jobe Watson, Andrew Lovett
HF: Adam McPhee, Scott Lucas, Andrew Welsh
F: Alwyn Davey, Matthew Lloyd, David Hille

FOLL: Jason Laycock, Mark McVeigh, Brent Stanton

I/C: Bachar Houli, Heath Hocking, Courtenay Dempsey, Kyle Reimers

[hotdish]

Its interesting to read a thread like this, being an opposition supporter...most of you seem to have Rama in your starting backline, but I was under the impression that Essendon would blood youngsters and that he would struggle to get a game/get back to his old form.

Then I watched the Ess v Saints game, and Rama was taking several of your kick-outs.

Does this suggest that he's a definite starter for Essendon round 1 - I couldn't care re DT/SC or anything, just happy for the bloke if he gets back into the team in a full strength team.

[forever green]

must of the post's for round 1 look spot on. but i think the bombers should play pears and myers as they look ready i know they might be still raw but i would play them before peverill and johnson

[GoDons]

Its interesting to read a thread like this, being an opposition supporter...most of you seem to have Rama in your starting backline, but I was under the impression that Essendon would blood youngsters and that he would struggle to get a game/get back to his old form.

Then I watched the Ess v Saints game, and Rama was taking several of your kick-outs.

Does this suggest that he's a definite starter for Essendon round 1 - I couldn't care re DT/SC or anything, just happy for the bloke if he gets back into the team in a full strength team.

One would think that Rama would be stiff to miss out.

Firstly, Rama isn't that old. He's 27 and all things going well, should be around for the next 5 years.

As for getting back to his old form, I'm not sure that's going to quite happen. It's hard to see him becoming the destructive wingman/half back flanker that he was around the 2002/03 period.

However, it's been noticable since his come back last year that he's still got the desire, still got the footy smarts and still got the best field kick in the side. Now he's got a bit of fitness on top of that.

All this amounts to a guy that can create from defence, whilst still having the awareness to shut down an opponent and the flexibility to play through the forward line and midfield. I dream of him having similar effectiveness to a later year Gavin Wanganeen.

I'd be betting on him playing Round 1, and playing a fairly serious role.

[GoDons]

must of the post's for round 1 look spot on. but i think the bombers should play pears and myers as they look ready i know they might be still raw but i would play them before peverill and johnson

I'd like to see Myers and Pears given some time.

There's plenty of other young guys that are just as worthy, if not more worthy, of a spot in the side.

Ease them in through Bendigo where it's not so difficult to get a kick and build their confidence. Then their form can be rewarded with a place in the seniors.

[forever green]

I'd like to see Myers and Pears given some time.

There's plenty of other young guys that are just as worthy, if not more worthy, of a spot in the side.

Ease them in through Bendigo where it's not so difficult to get a kick and build their confidence. Then their form can be rewarded with a place in the seniors.
yeah understand were your coming from but i just don't like too see a player in 1week out for rest of the season. confidence is the biggest point of a young afl player, i think that knights will play the young guns and if lose 22 games out 22 i'll still be happy knowing they will be better for it. we are two three years away

[DaSawx]

yeah understand were your coming from but i just don't like too see a player in 1week out for rest of the season. confidence is the biggest point of a young afl player, i think that knights will play the young guns and if lose 22 games out 22 i'll still be happy knowing they will be better for it. we are two three years away

How will confidence be good if we lose 22 of 22?

[Longy413]

B: Rama - Michael - Ryder
HB: Houli - Fletcher - Nash
C: Winderlich - Stanton - Lovett
HF: Davey - Lucas - Welsh
F: Jetta - Lloyd - Neagle
R: Hille - Watson - McVeigh
INT: Slattery - McPhee - Lovett-Murray - Laycock

[Tippaz]

starting lineup:

b - Rama'kas, Michael, Fletcher
hb - Peverill, Ryder, Nash
c - (Monfries), Watson, Winderlich
hf - McPhee, Lucas, Lovett
ff - Davey, Lloyd, L-Murray
r - Hille, Stanton, McVeigh
i/c - Laycock, Houli, Dempsey, Welsh
emg - Dyson

- i think Monfries might be our no.1 tagger this year.
- L-Murray appears to be starting forward.
- Peverill has been moved down back.
- McPhee will playing forward/midfield
- Dyson will most likely play every game, but i couldn't find a spot. he's my 23rd man.

[dave_27]

B: Rama - Michael - Ryder
HB: Houli - Fletcher - Nash
C: Winderlich - Stanton - Lovett
HF: Davey - Lucas - Welsh
F: Jetta - Lloyd - Neagle
R: Hille - Watson - McVeigh
INT: Slattery - McPhee - Lovett-Murray - Laycock

Hasnt played a pre season game to date yet, surely he wont get up in time longy?

Think Dyson will get that spot on the wing.

[forever green]

[quote=DaSawx;10229743]How will confidence be good if we lose 22 of 22?[/quote
i know it wouldn't be good at all, but thte stocks the bombers have on there list is great and just need to be played

[forever green]

B: Rama - Michael - Ryder
HB: Houli - Fletcher - Nash
C: Winderlich - Stanton - Lovett
HF: Davey - Lucas - Welsh
F: Jetta - Lloyd - Neagle
R: Hille - Watson - McVeigh
INT: Slattery - McPhee - Lovett-Murray - Laycock


B: Nash - Michael - Rama
HB: Fletcher - Ryder - Dempsey
C: Houli - Stanton - Myers
HF: Welsh - Lucas - Mcphee
F: Jetta - Lloyd - Davey
R: Hille - Watson - McVeigh
INT: Lovett-Murray - Laycock - Pears - Slattery

[Longy413]

Hasnt played a pre season game to date yet, surely he wont get up in time longy?

Think Dyson will get that spot on the wing.

He's in our best side and he should play next week and in the week off before the season for Bendigo.

If he gets two hit outs, he's in.

[Tippaz]

who is our no.1 tagger this year ???
i have a feeling it could be Monfries. but i'm not sure.

last year, we used Peverill in a K.Cornes mode (not as good) who would aim to shut down his opponent while getting the ball himself. we also used Slattery for some hard-tag roles (played a good game on Kerr) which was more of a S.Baker mode of tagging.
this year, we've got guys like Houli & Dyson pushing for spots in the midfield. i'm not sure what it will look like.

[DaSawx]

B: Ramanauskas - Michael - Ryder
HB: Houli - Fletcher - Nash
C: Lovett - Stanton - Winderlich
HF: Davey - Lucas - Welsh
F: Jetta - Lloyd - Hille
Foll: Laycock - Watson - McVeigh

Int: L-Murray McPhee Slattery Dempsey

[hulld]

dyson will play round 1

[HULK HOGAN]

B: Ramanauskas - Michael - Ryder
HB: Houli - Fletcher - Nash
C: Lovett - Stanton - Winderlich
HF: Davey - Lucas - Welsh
F: Jetta - Lloyd - Hille
Foll: Laycock - Watson - McVeigh

Int: L-Murray McPhee Slattery Dempsey
How can Lovett be considered after missing all pre season games?

[DaSawx]

How can Lovett be considered after missing all pre season games?

He's paying his due's and can be a match-winner, if we want to win he needs to be playing

[HULK HOGAN]

He's paying his due's and can be a match-winner, if we want to win he needs to be playing
Won't happen he'll be lucky to play in rnd 2:thumbsu:

[DaSawx]

Won't happen he'll be lucky to play in rnd 2:thumbsu:

time will tell

[dave_27]

He's in our best side and he should play next week and in the week off before the season for Bendigo.

If he gets two hit outs, he's in.

Geez I'll be rapt if he can play this week.

I had him written off for atleast another month.

[SOT4]

Won't happen he'll be lucky to play in rnd 2:thumbsu:

Absolute certainty to play if uninjured, and you're dreaming if you think otherwise.

[SOT4]

B: Rama - Michael - Ryder
HB: Houli - Fletcher - Nash
C: Winderlich - Stanton - Lovett
HF: Davey - Lucas - Welsh
F: Jetta - Lloyd - Neagle
R: Hille - Watson - McVeigh
INT: Slattery - McPhee - Lovett-Murray - Laycock

Interesting to see you put Houli in there. I know you've been one guy who has cautioned against expecting big things from him just yet. I'm interested as to what you think now- Can he continue his NAB cup form or do you still envisage another developmental year in the 2s?

[HULK HOGAN]

Absolute certainty to play if uninjured, and you're dreaming if you think otherwise.
Well hes not going to be injured is he???
Don't know where his match fitness is going to come from???
There is no way Knights will select him 1st up given he did something wrong, our successfull nab cup and the message it sends to other players
obviously you haven't experienced how a footy club works:thumbsu:

[HULK HOGAN]

B: Ramanauskas - Michael - Ryder
HB: Houli - Fletcher - Nash
C: Lovett - Stanton - Winderlich
HF: Davey - Lucas - Welsh
F: Jetta - Lloyd - Hille
Foll: Laycock - Watson - McVeigh

Int: L-Murray McPhee Slattery Dempsey


B: RAMA- MICHAEL-RYDER
HB: L-MUARRY- FLETCH- NASH
C: DYSON- WATSON-MCPHEE
HF: WELSH LUCAS DAVEY
F: LAYCOCK- 18- REIMERS
R: HILLE- STANTON- MCVEIGH
INT: PEV, JETTA, SLATERY, DEMPSEY.
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE PEV IN THERE BUT I REALLY WANT TO REWARD REIMERS SO I JUGGLED THE SIDE AROUND ABIT. WINDERLICH WONT BE READY:thumbsu:

[kelvin_sheedy]

If we go with a back line of Rama, Nash, Ryder, Houli all in it then I'll cut my testicles off!

Too loose and not enough pure defenders with that backline.

You need a Lovett-Murray or Slattery or McVeigh down there to add some steel.

[wazzabp]

B: Slattery Michael Fletcher
HB: Nash Ryder Lovett-Murray
C: Dyson Watson Houli
HF:McPhee Lucas Welsh
F: Davey Lloyd Reimers
R: Hille McVeigh Stanton
Inter: Laycock Lovett Ramanauskas Neagle

[hulld]

reimers isn't a chance to play, whilst you have left DC out. he is a lock for round 1.

neagle won't get a game after playing one solid game. with the resting ruckman spending time in the forward line we will be too top heavy if he plays.

i doubt both rama and slats will play, only one of those two will get a gig.

i think many people here are underestimating hocking. he has had a huge pre-season and i reckon as long as he is fit he will play round 1.

[SOT4]

Well hes not going to be injured is he???
Don't know where his match fitness is going to come from???
There is no way Knights will select him 1st up given he did something wrong, our successfull nab cup and the message it sends to other players
obviously you haven't experienced how a footy club works:thumbsu:

I know how a footy club works champ. What was Lovett's punishment? Was it missing the preseason cup games? Yes. Was it missing round 1 as well? No? So why would it be a sign of relenting for him to play round 1. It, of course, would not be. A Lovett without a warm up game is worth more than most of our team. I would be amazed if he didn't play.

Also, the idea that we had such a successful NAB cup that we don't have to play the best players is completely insane. Absolutely ludicrous.

[Boozeroo]

B: Rama Michael Ryder Fletcher
HB: Dempsey Ryder Nash
C: Dyson Monfries Lovett
HF: Davey Lucas Mcphee
F: Jetta Lloyd Hille
FOLL: Laycock Mcveigh Stanton
INTER: Watson Jetta Welsh Houli

Paddy's multiplying at an exponential rate!!!!

In all seriousness though, I have no problem watching you fellas debate the best 22 for Essendon, I just think you've fallen into 'best line-ups' rather than looking at round 1. The Roos are currently forward line-

Campbell- Thompson- Edwards
Grant- Petrie- Jones

How will Ryder or Dempsey line up there? Edwards is too quick for Fletcher, and leads constantly to the HFF with Jones dropping back.

Not trolling, just think you've strayed from the 'round 1' line up...

[GoDons]

reimers isn't a chance to play, whilst you have left DC out. he is a lock for round 1.

neagle won't get a game after playing one solid game. with the resting ruckman spending time in the forward line we will be too top heavy if he plays.

i doubt both rama and slats will play, only one of those two will get a gig.

i think many people here are underestimating hocking. he has had a huge pre-season and i reckon as long as he is fit he will play round 1.

I can't see how you can claim so firmly that Reimers is out and Dempsey's in. Neither are certain starters or omissions. The same applies to Jay Neagle.

As far as I'm concerned, the Essendon side would be far from settled right now, with this week remaining vital for many players' round 1 aspirations. There's probably around 30 guys with a hope.

[Jonesy1987]

Paddy's multiplying at an exponential rate!!!!

In all seriousness though, I have no problem watching you fellas debate the best 22 for Essendon, I just think you've fallen into 'best line-ups' rather than looking at round 1. The Roos are currently forward line-

Campbell- Thompson- Edwards
Grant- Petrie- Jones

How will Ryder or Dempsey line up there? Edwards is too quick for Fletcher, and leads constantly to the HFF with Jones dropping back.

Not trolling, just think you've strayed from the 'round 1' line up...

FF: Monfries - Lloyd -Jetta
HF: Laycock - Lucas - Mcphee
C: Mcveigh - Houli -Lovett
HB: Dempsey - Fletcher - Ryder (Backline should line up like this if your foward line is structured the way you said)
FB: Ramanaskas - Michael - Welsh
Foll: Hille - Stanton - Davey
Inter: Watson - Nash - JJ - Dyson

Would love to see Pears, Myers, Hislop, Reimers, Neagle all play but I dont think we can afford to intergrate too many young guys early on but more later on in the season

[Longy413]

Interesting to see you put Houli in there. I know you've been one guy who has cautioned against expecting big things from him just yet. I'm interested as to what you think now- Can he continue his NAB cup form or do you still envisage another developmental year in the 2s?

Another development year for him, but I think he'll start.

[hulld]

I can't see how you can claim so firmly that Reimers is out and Dempsey's in. Neither are certain starters or omissions. The same applies to Jay Neagle.


there are enough guys that play a similar role to kyle that have their nose in front of him. lovett, jetta, davey, dyson, winders, welsh and nlm have either the forward flanks or wings covered.

whilst if you have been paying attention over the summer you would know that knights has continually been saying that DC will be persisted with on the back flank. he has had a huge pre-season and is a star of the future.

jay showed a lot the other night, but he is nowhere near fit enough to be able to play a game of AFL footy with just 4 guys on the bench. he'd only be able to play half the game and if lloydy is fit he will struggle to see much senior footy before the early season break.

[HULK HOGAN]

I know how a footy club works champ. What was Lovett's punishment? Was it missing the preseason cup games? Yes. Was it missing round 1 as well? No? So why would it be a sign of relenting for him to play round 1. It, of course, would not be. A Lovett without a warm up game is worth more than most of our team. I would be amazed if he didn't play.

Also, the idea that we had such a successful NAB cup that we don't have to play the best players is completely insane. Absolutely ludicrous.
Won't play!
spose you want Hislop in for round 1 now hey Champ???
:D:D:D:D

[SOT4]

Won't play!
spose you want Hislop in for round 1 now hey Champ???
:D:D:D:D

Hislop isn't an autmoatic selection, Lovett certainly is one.

[GoDons]

there are enough guys that play a similar role to kyle that have their nose in front of him. lovett, jetta, davey, dyson, winders, welsh and nlm have either the forward flanks or wings covered.

whilst if you have been paying attention over the summer you would know that knights has continually been saying that DC will be persisted with on the back flank. he has had a huge pre-season and is a star of the future.

jay showed a lot the other night, but he is nowhere near fit enough to be able to play a game of AFL footy with just 4 guys on the bench. he'd only be able to play half the game and if lloydy is fit he will struggle to see much senior footy before the early season break.

I'm not arguing with your opinions, I agree with you.

My point is that nothing's in concrete. Perhaps if you had been paying attention during the Pre-season you would have heard Knights mention that after the Brisbane game that there were roughly another 6-8 guys in contention on top of an already large group.

As for Courtenay Dempsey, just because he'll be persisted with on the back flank doesn't mean he'll be persisted with in the seniors. Never was there a guarantee of him being in the side. For the record, I think he'll play. However, he's certainly not a lock for Round 1.

[MarkJohnson#1]

Another development year for him, but I think he'll start.

He seems a bit more settled this year, going by his recent NAB form. Is your view on another development year due to competition in gaining a spot in the senior side or purely due to him not being completely ready for an AFL season?

I've penciled him in for round 1, however a number of players are pressing for a spot.

[Sanj]

Backs
Lovett-Murray, Michael, Ryder
Dempsey, Fletcher, Nash

Mid-field
Dyson, McVeigh,Stanton
Hille, Watson, Houli

Forwards
Davey, Lucas,Mcphee
Lovett, Lloyd, Reimers

Interchange
Laycock, Monfries, Jetta, Winderlich

Emergencies
Hislop, Pears, Neagle

PS - Is Winderlich still injured?

[Jonesy1987]

Backs
Lovett-Murray, Michael, Ryder
Dempsey, Fletcher, Nash

Mid-field
Dyson, McVeigh,Stanton
Hille, Watson, Houli

Forwards
Davey, Lucas,Mcphee
Lovett, Lloyd, Reimers

Interchange
Laycock, Monfries, Jetta, Winderlich

Emergencies
Hislop, Pears, Neagle

PS - Is Winderlich still injured?

I think he will be unavalible for round 1 maybe even 2

[Pevers-Legend]

Backs
Lovett-Murray, Michael, Ryder
Dempsey, Fletcher, Nash

Mid-field
Dyson, McVeigh,Stanton
Hille, Watson, Houli

Forwards
Davey, Lucas,Mcphee
Lovett, Lloyd, Reimers

Interchange
Laycock, Monfries, Jetta, Winderlich

Emergencies
Hislop, Pears, Neagle

PS - Is Winderlich still injured?


This is around the money for em as we nee youth - except Lovett, Hislop and Winderlich I don't think are chances due to injury and lack of match fitness.

Welsh and Pev I expect would get a gig although haven't been super impressed with Welsh so far - but it is pre-season.

Suprised Lonergan or Hocking are not in more teams. We need clearance guys and they aren't bad. I have a fair bit of time for Lonergan and reckon he could really be a player for us this year.

Also - can;t see why Rama woudl get a gig in the back pocket. He is a mid and defensively has NFI. He is too slow to play back pocket. Would like to se ehim out there, but I reckon we need more pace down back. His best posi would be in the midfield where he can use his quality to win and deliver the footy forward.

[kelvin_sheedy]

Also - can;t see why Rama woudl get a gig in the back pocket. He is a mid and defensively has NFI. He is too slow to play back pocket. Would like to se ehim out there, but I reckon we need more pace down back. His best posi would be in the midfield where he can use his quality to win and deliver the footy forward.


Just is that plain wrong.

[Slattery_20]

In all seriousness though, I have no problem watching you fellas debate the best 22 for Essendon, I just think you've fallen into 'best line-ups' rather than looking at round 1. The Roos are currently forward line-

Campbell- Thompson- Edwards
Grant- Petrie- Jones

How will Ryder or Dempsey line up there? Edwards is too quick for Fletcher, and leads constantly to the HFF with Jones dropping back.

Not trolling, just think you've strayed from the 'round 1' line up...

Michael - Thompson
Ryder - Edwards
Fletch - Petrie

Or if one of your blokes is having a dud day/looking unfit, Fletch would swap to him & play off him.

My 22 -
IMHO Essendon has 14 players only (bolded, plus Licha) who would be regarded as certain 22 picks this year. This year the team will be highly fluid anyway, by this time next year even these guys might be on the outer

I'd line them up as -
B: Rama Michael Fletcher
HB: Dempsey Ryder Nash
C: Houli Watson Lovett
HF: McVeigh Lucas McPhee
FF: Reimers Lloyd Davey

R: Hille Stanton Hocking

Int: JJ Laycock Jetta Dyson

Emerg: Monfries, NLM, Lonergan, Gumbleton

[The Dustbin]

Is it just me or all of a sudden we have an abundence of running players who can play off HB. :eek:

NLM
Nash
Dempsey
Houli
Dyson
McPhee
Myers

[DaSawx]

Just a coach who wants to take risks and run it out instead of getting stuck there and losing it out on the wings all the time

[Pevers-Legend]

Just is that plain wrong.

Guys like Eddie Betts, Stokes, Grey, etc. will burn him for pace. so yes he is too slow.

[kelvin_sheedy]

Guys like Eddie Betts, Stokes, Grey, etc. will burn him for pace. so yes he is too slow.

Eddie Betts :D

I would love to see their 20m times and compare it to Rama.