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Quarter time
Collingwood 1.3 (9)
Port Adelaide 4.1 (25)
Goal kickers: Rocca
A strong start highlighted by an Anthony Rocca goal was followed by a series of Collingwood forward forays in which the Magpies weren't able to capitalise. Port managed to make the most of their opportunities going forward and booted four goals.
Scott Pendlebury and Dane Swan have been good through the midfield, while Leon Davis' clean hands and disposal has been important and Alan Didak has looked dangerous up forward. Harry O'Brien has made a good return and played well in defence.
3rd quarter just started. port lead 54 to 41.
3 qtr Time Coll 8.8.56 Port 10.8.68
Wood has been great as has Thomas
Rocca 3
Thomas 2
Wood 1
Swan 1
Medhurst 1
Pie 4 Life
1 Mar 2008, 14:53
To be competitive is good :thumbsu:
Paddywackers
1 Mar 2008, 14:55
To be competitive is good :thumbsu:
Who kicked the last goal?
Who kicked the last goal?
Thomas
just got back from the ground, watched 2 and a bit quarters. we looked pretty good although our general skills were pretty bad :\ hopefully can sort them out before the season starts. no one really stood out although marty seemed to be everywhere. dids took a freak mark and daisy kicked a freak goal.
wakelin looked great down back, thank f**k he didnt retire, i think he will be holding things together down there for us.
Cloke goals
Coll 9.10.64 Port 10.9.69
Clokes in the goals column, 53 metres out :thumbsu:
Coll 62 Port 69
Wood was terrific, some big grabs in the forwardline for a goal and a handball to Rocca for a goal in the square from a pack mark
Thomas just messed up a certain goal, missing a handball to Egan in the goal square
Coll 64 Port 69
Goal to Burgoyne
Coll 9.11.65 Port 13.9.87
we should be lucky to be even afforded the privilege to play port adelaide. such a magical team of heart and talent. i'm listening to 5aa by the way.
Wood was terrific, some big grabs in the forwardline for a goal and a handball to Rocca for a goal in the square from a pack mark
the whole ground was holding its breath when he ined up for goal from 50 out i reckon. a lot of anticipation surrounding him!
cloke's kicking didnt look like it had improved much at all, he is so stiff in his run up
Coobk001
1 Mar 2008, 15:22
4th Qtr
Coll 9 . 11 . 65
Port 15 . 10 . 100
Coll Goals:
A Rocca 3 . 0
D Thomas 2 . 2
T Cloke 1 . 2
Medhurst 1 . 1
C Wood 1 . 0
D Swan 1 . 0
S Rusling 0 . 1
C Egan 0 . 1
R Shaw 0 . 1
Cook 0 . 1
Rushed 0 . 2
Port Goals:
S Burgoyne 5 . 0
D Motlop 2 . 1
R Gray 2 . 1
B Ebert 2 . 0
W Tredrea 1 . 1
J Westhoff 1 . 0
N Salter 1 . 0
D Rodan 1 . 0
K Cornes 0 . 2
D Cassisi 0 . 1
G Bentley 0 . 1
T Logan 0 . 1
Rushed 0 . 2
There is still a speed problem in the midfield, we pretty much had them beat in every other department but they made us look like treacle at times.
There is still a speed problem in the midfield, we pretty much had them beat in every other department but they made us look like treacle at times.
Their midfield is pretty damn good though.
If we played Port Adelaide and broke even with their midfield you'd be happy.
C Cornes, K Cornes, S Burgoyne, Pearce, Salopek, Rodan and they all played.
Pretty handy.
collingwoodfc.com.au is providing quarter-by-quarter updates from the Collingwood-Port Adelaide regional challenge match at MC Labour Park.
Three quarter time
Collingwood 1.3, 6.4, 8.8 (56)
Port Adelaide 4.1, 8.6, 10.8 (68)
Goal kickers: Rocca 3, Thomas 2, Swan, Wood, Medhurst
After a scrappy first term the Magpies started to play much more fluent, attacking footy in the second term, booting five goals and showing some promising signs.
In the third quarter Collingwood had most of the play and moved it well through the middle on occasions, but efficiency going into the forward 50 dropped off and Port maintained a two-goal lead.
Shane O'Bree and Dane Swan have both found plenty of the ball in the midfield, and Dale Thomas has looked dangerous up forward and up the ground, and booted two goals. Sam Iles had a fine third quarter running and carrying the ball through the middle, while Anthony Rocca's first half was particularly good with the big forward presenting well and booting three majors.
In defence, Harry O'Brien has made a strong return from injury, while Heath Shaw has been typically serviceable.
Overall Collingwood just needs to make better use of the ball going forward and capitalise on having more of the play.
Their midfield is pretty damn good though.
That's true but these are the teams we have to beat in the midfield to have a serious crack
Coobk001
1 Mar 2008, 15:34
End of Game
Coll 9 . 12 . 66
Port 15 . 11 . 101
Coll Goals:
A Rocca 3 . 0
D Thomas 2 . 2
T Cloke 1 . 2
Medhurst 1 . 1
C Wood 1 . 0
D Swan 1 . 0
S Rusling 0 . 1
C Egan 0 . 1
R Shaw 0 . 1
Cook 0 . 1
Rushed 0 . 3
Port Goals:
S Burgoyne 5 . 1
D Motlop 2 . 1
R Gray 2 . 1
B Ebert 2 . 0
W Tredrea 1 . 1
J Westhoff 1 . 0
N Salter 1 . 0
D Rodan 1 . 0
K Cornes 0 . 2
D Cassisi 0 . 1
G Bentley 0 . 1
T Logan 0 . 1
Rushed 0 . 2
BOG - S Burgoyne
T Cloke played well, Thomas mercurial at stages, J Fraser on top in the ruck, and Didak did a few good things. Wood had a good patch in 2nd Qtr too, where he kicked a goal and set one up for Rocca in a couple minutes.
Collingwood dominated clearances, but lost it in field play, probably a skill thing to do with being in the pre-season. Overall the scoreline wasn't completely reflective as they were a little closer than the final score
who is missing from ur team's 22??
I have to say the game was never in doubt, their midfield always looked like running over us
It will take all of Mighty Mick's wiles to compensate for our midfield this year
who is missing from ur team's 22??
Presty Goldsack Holland Burns Johnson Lockyer Maxwell
And I think Pendlebury, or else he had a terrible game if he played
Coobk001
1 Mar 2008, 15:41
clearances
coll 32
port 28
inside 50
coll 46
port 52
Coobk001
1 Mar 2008, 15:42
Presty Goldsack Holland Burns Johnson Lockyer Maxwell
And I think Pendlebury, or else he had a terrible game if he played
Pendlebury played
Pendlebury played
I thought I saw him get a kick but wasn't sure, he can't be fit though
i heard rusling mentioned at the start of the radio call, but never again? hope he didn't get injured. anyone know what was the deal there?
Just walked home from the game,
Good efforts in the 2nd and 3rd quarter.
Some good running play from the likes of the Shaws, Thomas, Didak and John Anthony. and Fraser and Cameron Wood both playing as mobile ruckmen looked to work well. Wood kicked a couple going forward in the 2nd quarter including one after a great pack mark.
Davis looks sharp and Egan played well through the midfield.
Defense looked a little shaky and too often Port scored easy goals and found men on their own inside 50. That combined with general fitness was the reason Port were too good and ran out 6 goal winners.
Any word on where we will be next week?
i heard rusling mentioned at the start of the radio call, but never again? hope he didn't get injured. anyone know what was the deal there?
Dare say he wasn't meant to play a lot of game time today.
i heard rusling mentioned at the start of the radio call, but never again? hope he didn't get injured. anyone know what was the deal there?Just couldn't get into the game, no fitness yet coming back from injury, replaced by John Anthony in the forwardline
roader_4
1 Mar 2008, 16:00
Any word on where we will be next week?
Shepparton
bradrowe#32
1 Mar 2008, 16:03
Shepparton
If Hawthorn losses tonight, we will play them.
If they win, then we will play Essendon.
MagpieGirl_13
1 Mar 2008, 16:07
Ok, we lost.... anyone know what the final score was?
Gone Critical
1 Mar 2008, 16:41
I saw the 1st half then got called back to work, heres a few thoughts
Dawes and Anthony started as the 2 KP backmen (on Tredrae and Westhoff). Both were ok, Anthony more so in the forward line in the 2nd Q. Ports senior players tried to sort them out a bit, both hit with strong shirtfronts , Dawes off the ball. Dawes dusted himself off and got a free, Anthony was sore and had to go off for 5min but fine when came on again. Dawes played whole 1st half, except for a few minutes on the bench, in defense
Our disposal was poor compared to theirs esp 1st Q. Fraser go a fair bit of it in 1st half and never missed a target, trouble was all his targets had Port jumpers on.
Egan has bulked up a lot in the upper body and was busy in the 1st half without starring. He has the attributes and now the body to be an automatic selection in the team or better as long as he keeps his mind on the job.
At some centre bounces we had Thomas Pendlebury and Clarke in there together perhaps a sign of things to come.
Thomas's goal at the end of the 2nd half had to be seen to be believed. Plenty including the guy standing next to me (and we were right in front of it) blinked and missed it. This boot suddenly appeared above the pack then goal then siren.
Pendles v quiet
Rusling all at sea, didnt know where to lead to. I have a lot of hopes for him but I do worry about how lost he looks when not going well. Too much of a contrast compared to his best to be any reason other than mental. Hopefully as he matures the difference between his best and worst will shorten.
Wood was great in the 2nd quarter. Rucked well but even better around the ground. Big contested mark just outside the goal square and a pin point pass onto Clokes chest coming into the forward line. Definitely something to work with there.
Leon looks fit enough to be a full time midfielder.
Harry was good and Wakelin when he came on but I am a bit worried about our defense (more so than our midfield)
I cant but like Tooveys effort but he just doesnt look to be good enough. I was certain of this before today but a couple of his big efforts today made me wonder whether he will be one of those guys who wills himself into being a servicable AFL player. For his sake I hope he can cause you gotta admire the effort but I doubt he will.
Ryan Cook and Sam Iles didnt get much of it dont see either in our top 22 this year. Both need to show something more this year to be retained on list.
R Shaw ok, R Lonie did nothing much.
Rocca looks fit and will still be vital this year if we are to make an impression.
No Reid today, not sure why.
Clarke looked v assured in contests. As he gets more games under his belt he will be an A grade midfielder.
watched most of the game left 20 minutes into last qtr and missed first 5 of first.
These are my observations:
Fraser and wood will be a dangerous proporistion this year
in fact Wood looks very good the contested marking in the second qtr got me very happy
JA will play round 1 and will become a very good swing man for us, also plays the ball and the man hard.
Davis was in and out of the game but did some nice things
Pendlebury was very quiet did nothing wrong but nothing spectacular either.
Egan in the space of a minute can look like a superstar then a EFL player if he gets rid of the brain fades will be useful
Thomas loked good but still does too much sometimes like taking a mark 15 out and handpassing over egan for a behind instead of going back, lucky its a praccy match in the seniors he would of been lynched. Still kicked goal of the year
Dawes is massive and was decent in the back line but looked uncomfortable
Both shaw boys were fantatsic, rhyce was very dominant in particular
Obree and swan are our clearnces mids to help out burns
Cook did some nice things but also looked slightly soft on the and man in some contests
Trav worked very hard all day
Rocca looks fit and untouchable in contested situations.
Iles was average to good nothign exciting nothing terrible
Toovey looked good in teh backline was keeping his feet, getting to constests runnig hard and hitting targets, really worked hard and looks like he was an afl player out there today
MagpieGirl_13
1 Mar 2008, 16:56
Toovey looked good in teh backline was keeping his feet, getting to constests runnig hard and hitting targets, really worked hard and looks like he was an afl player out there today
Good Good Good Good Good Good!!! :thumbsu::D
Met eddie today stand up bloke
Wakes hasnt missed a beat pantsed tredrea no end
Harry looks fine in no 8 and never seems to be tackled, i thought he was gone a couple of times today and he just sambaed his way out with ease, strangest shimmy ive seen but by god it works
Lonie looked alright, his kicking distance is back but he still missed targets (wasnt alone here), will get games but i think younger guys have pased him by
Marty worked hard today, and will do liccas old number proud
Rus was struggling with the speed of the game but the gametime will do him good, not worrying since its his first game
We played some good football in the 2nd and 3rd qtrs, and looked a little slow off the mark in the first and entirely disineterested in the last after an early rund on for the first few minutes, but Mm did have swan obree and rocca off for most of it with either Fraser or wood full forward
Don't get me wrong, I'd much rather see us winning but it's the pre-season.
How many pre-season games have the Swans won in the last few years when they've challenged for the season proper title and won one? Not many.
Carlton pre-season premiers 2 of the last 3 years.
Pre-season is not a good form guide for the season to come and many run out of steam.
Happy to hear Wood did well and on Pies website Chris Egan named in the best along with Trav, Swanny and R Shaw.
For the guys who went to the game, did Didak play in the midfield much?
dalethomas13
1 Mar 2008, 17:21
Overall, it was a very good hitout for the boys I thought.
Solid and fast throughout the day but the scoreline does not reflect the difference in the two sides. They banged on 5 goals in the last 10mins to make it look like a bit of a blowout.
Nonetheless, we are right on track for round 1 but our only real weakness I noticed today was that we constantly turned the ball over when trying to bring it back through the corridor.
We seem to be taking more risks with handball/run and carry and always trying to spot up and look inside the corridor- which is a wonderful sign- but turning the ball over whilst bringing it back through the middle is costly, evident today by Port hurting us countless times on the rebound unopposed.
Egan is easily in our best 22 and is looking in terrific shape- rarely misses a target with his disposal and has beefed up and I was impressed with Fraser/Wood combo.
Rus only played a half in his first match but it is fair to say we did not look at all threatening when trying to hit lead up forwards outside of Cloke, Didak or Anthony. Rocca is looking quite fit too.
Thomas was majestic but made a blue in the goalsquare and seems to have really added some muscle to his frame, evident by his strength in the contest and on the man.
Jack will play round 1- as someone else said he will be our swing man- Adam Hunter like. Strong, fast and very good disposal capable of playing both ends of the ground.
Heater, Swanny, O'Bree were good all day but I didnt really take that much notice of our backmen as I was always shifting ends to keep a closer eye on our attacking half of the ground.
Cooky and Iles weren't brilliant but didn't do much wrong either. Hopefully they will go from strength to strength over the season.
Somebody
1 Mar 2008, 17:26
Toovey will prove you all wrong
Not me! I always stuck up for him.
Paddywackers
1 Mar 2008, 17:28
If Hawthorn losses tonight, we will play them.
If they win, then we will play Essendon.
I hope Hawthorn win so we can play Essendon in that case.
MagpieGirl_13
1 Mar 2008, 17:28
Not me! I always stuck up for him.
Glad to see someone else is jumping on board! There isn't many who will stick up for him, glad to see another.... :thumbsu::thumbsu::)
Not me! I always stuck up for him.
yeah always liked tooveys endevour
Big Bucks
1 Mar 2008, 17:51
Not me! I always stuck up for him.
Toovey will be gone by seasons end, he is a spud.
Toovey will be gone by seasons end, he is a spud.
not on evidence today, id say ther were a couple alot closer to the chop that young alan
MagpieGirl_13
1 Mar 2008, 17:54
Toovey will be gone by seasons end, he is a spud.
*sigh* it was only a matter of time I guess......:rolleyes::cool:
The team performance wasn't so good but it was clear to see we were trying different plans and combinations. We had a pretty strong side but I don't think we ever had the best 18 of those 26 or so players on the field especially in the midfield, Pendlebury, Swan and O'Bree probably never lined up alongside one of the other. The margin was definately flattering of Port. We never really got in front but the margin was always 2 or 3 goals then we gave away cheap junktime goals.
1. Davis - good all day in the midfield
2. Rusling - disapointing. Obviously was just there to get a run after his injury
3. Lonie - Good disposal but just makes so many mistakes off the ball
4. Didak - he was ok
7. Medhurst - good in the midfield. Turned it over badly once with the obligatory sideways pass
8. O'Brien - was good, played well on Ebert
9. Anthony - Played on Westhoff early and let him go a bit too much. Played forward the last 3 quarters and was ok. Is very good when the ball hits the ground, just knows what to do. I'm not so sure about one on ones and when the ball is in the air
10. Pendlebury - was very quiet
11. O'Bree - his usual self, probably quiet along with Pendles who didn't get massive amounts of gametime
13. Thomas - his usual self
14. Wakelin - great on Tred
15. Egan - was probably the shining light in the side. some egan mistakes were still there but his disposal was brilliant. Knew where to go to get the ball. Put him in the side
18. Clarke - was kind of forced to play an inside midfielder and went ok. Needs to learn how to kick when he hasn't got time because his action kind of takes too much time.
19. Wood - along with Egan the huge positive of the match. Good at hitouts (nothing spectacular but still good) and very good around the ground. Could go from being a handy pick up to one of the recruits of the year, and take our ruck division from being one of the weakest to one of the strongest.
22. R.Shaw - very good
23. Rocca - only played about 1 and a half quarters but had a good game
25. Fraser - his kicking was off but his marking was great. Looked ok against Lade at the ruck contests.
29. Cook - was ok especially towards the end in the midfield. I just don't see anything he can add to our side. While I think he is a better footballer than Iles, I think Iles adds more value.
31. Dawes - good down back. Nothing to get excited about. He did keep Westhoff very quiet after getting outplayed by Tredrea very early.
32. Cloke - workhorse but needs to work on kicking
34. Toovey - pretty good on Motlop. Backline is his position.
36. Swan - usual self
37. Iles - Great line breaking but again his disposal was very off.
39. H.Shaw - i thought he was very quiet for him. Was tagged by Kane Cornes
Big Bucks
1 Mar 2008, 17:55
not on evidence today, id say ther were a couple alot closer to the chop that young alan
Who would you say is in front of Toovey too be chopped Opti ?
Who would you say is in front of Toovey too be chopped Opti ?
I would say Cook and Macaffer (he's a rookie anyway). Toovey is certainly up against it. Cook's no spud but he needs to get a move on and show us something.
Who would you say is in front of Toovey too be chopped Opti ?
better backmen than cook and iles (iles better at line breaking).
Better tagger and backmen than Lonie.
Would prefer him played in the side as a backmen than egan at the moment too egan may play some very good football but makes some stupid mistakes and is worked off the ball easily although laid a fantastic tackle.
has to either be played as a backemn or defensive mid though, cant expect toovey to play as a palymaker not his role but can play on both smal and tallish player ala ebert robertson etc
PieLebo87
1 Mar 2008, 18:05
Collingwood went down by 35 points.
Collingwood: 9 - 12 - 66
Port: 15 - 11 - 101
Goals: Rocca 2 (first 2 for the Pies), Wood 2, Thomas 2, Swan 1, Cloke 1, Medhurst 1.
No shows - Bryan, Goldsack, Maxwell, Johnson, Stanley, Cox, Burns, Reid and Lockyer.
As I mentioned yesterday when someone raised concerns about our lack of depth in the backline, Chris Dawes is going to be more then handy in defence, and showed it today as pretty much a defender all day long. A big boy with agility and can get around. Threw his body around a little as well, which was good to see. Alan Toovey is another that people seem to have forgotten is a defender, and he was exceptional today. But the standout for today, and I mentioned it yesterday as well, is John Anthony. He is more then ready to step up for AFL footy and, pending on form, can get more then 17+ games under his belt this season. He is very courageous and did the tough stuff, and has the ability to really cement himself a spot in the side.
Thomas scored an amazing goal, Didak took one of his trademark speccies and Cloke was roaming around, dominating the 50 taking marks everywhere. So not much has changed over the summer.
We started off very disappointingly, being 3 goals down very early, and the disposal was a let down. Slowly, we got back into the game and began to dominate late in the 2nd, early in the 3rd. During the 3rd, we kicked 3 in a row, and the crowd was getting into it with the Pies on Port's tail.
Cameron Wood was superb. He did very well, and is going to be a major factor for us as a resting tall forward. Both his goals came as a resting forward with strong overhead marks. A small, probably irrelevent, bit of info is that during quarter time, Wood was playing with his left knee, and had the physio look at it. Otherwise, he was very good and rotated well with Fraser.
Anthony Rocca went missing as the game wore on, but he was very effective early and took strong grabs. Rusling was disappointing, but then again, he wasn't getting much, and the general disposal of the team was sloppy, so can't put much blame on him, plus hes coming back from an injury.
Finally, theres one thing I noticed today, and that is Shane O'Bree. Its hard for people on here to accept this, but Obe is one of our best, if not, our best midfielder. He is very underrated and largely maligned. He does the job week in week out and is a large benefit in the side who will be missed once he retires, if we don't find an immediate replacement. He is very important to the team's midfield structure and will be very important this year, again.
Guys, don't let the score-line get you down. It was 66 to 75 at one stage and we were doing well. Port kicked away late in the game, and it was pointless. We put up a good contest, and Im sure MM would've gotten plenty of positives from it, because I certainly did.
If you guys have any questions about anything, just ask, and Ill get back to you eventually.
Rocca kicked 3 and Wood 1. The mark Wood took near the goalsquare he handballed to Rocca.
The Royal Sampler
1 Mar 2008, 18:09
Agree with most of what has been said on here. The scoreline definitely didn't reflect the difference between the two sides, it was within a couple of goals for pretty much the entire match.
I was pleasantly surprised by Egan, Wood and Anthony. All of them showed plenty and should have a sizeable impact this year in the seniors. Egan's use of the ball was wonderful, he showed plenty of poise. Wood had an impact both in the ruck and up forward, as well as taking some marks on the last line. Anthony showed he belongs at senior level, he never takes a backward step and has mongrel in spades.
Disappointed with Cook, Lonie and to a lesser extent Toovey. Cook's disposal was poor, and his decision making put teammates under pressure. Lonie did very little and put a ball OOF when running past for the shot on goal. Toovey tried hard, did one or two good things but on the whole just looks out of his depth.
FWIW, I don't think Dawes showed much as a backman, I believe forward's his go. A bit miffed that we didn't give either Stanley or Wellingham a go in the middle either, maybe MM just doesn't rate our young mids beyond Pendles/Clarke.
It was a good hitout, not too much can be read into it, but we were competitive pretty much all day.
Agree with most of what has been said on here. The scoreline definitely didn't reflect the difference between the two sides, it was within a couple of goals for pretty much the entire match.
I was pleasantly surprised by Egan, Wood and Anthony. All of them showed plenty and should have a sizeable impact this year in the seniors. Egan's use of the ball was wonderful, he showed plenty of poise. Wood had an impact both in the ruck and up forward, as well as taking some marks on the last line. Anthony showed he belongs at senior level, he never takes a backward step and has mongrel in spades.
Disappointed with Cook, Lonie and to a lesser extent Toovey. Cook's disposal was poor, and his decision making put teammates under pressure. Lonie did very little and put a ball OOF when running past for the shot on goal. Toovey tried hard, did one or two good things but on the whole just looks out of his depth.
FWIW, I don't think Dawes showed much as a backman, I believe forward's his go. A bit miffed that we didn't give either Stanley or Wellingham a go in the middle either, maybe MM just doesn't rate our young mids beyond Pendles/Clarke.
It was a good hitout, not too much can be read into it, but we were competitive pretty much all day.
Agree with most of it, except for the toobey and egan parts.
Thought toovey proved he is worthwiled as a defender in the side, and egan showed he has all the skills but still has massive brain fades
Rocca kicked 3 and Wood 1. The mark Wood took near the goalsquare he handballed to Rocca.
and sprinted to the interchange yep,\. had a massive 20 minutes there
If Egan gets the ball 15+ times a game and uses it as good as he did today, than his 1 or 2 massive brain explosions per game wont matter.
If Egan gets the ball 15+ times a game and uses it as good as he did today, than his 1 or 2 massive brain explosions per game wont matter.
Still not convinced but definetly willing to be proved wrong. Just his brain fades and lonies too for that matter really shit me maybe cause i know they can be super stars i dunno
I know I'm a bit negative, but it would be nice if we just once looked like we were going to win a game.
dalethomas13
1 Mar 2008, 18:47
Still not convinced but definetly willing to be proved wrong. Just his brain fades and lonies too for that matter really shit me maybe cause i know they can be super stars i dunno
Opti, I agree with you on Lonie. I think this year will be his last on our list.
However, Egan has an abundance of talent and on today's performance is in our best 22. Full of poise, confidence and class and rarely wastes a disposal. His footskills are required in the team. He is nowhere near the chopping block imo.
This season is make or break for Toovey and I think he will faulter. I'd be happy to be proven wrong on him and I definitely agree his best position is as a backman- not as a tagger or midfielder.
Cooky and Iles are in a better position to remain on the list, however both are not backmen, they should be used as midfielders or wingmen.
Marklar_33
1 Mar 2008, 18:47
watched most of the game left 20 minutes into last qtr and missed first 5 of first.
These are my observations:
Fraser and wood will be a dangerous proporistion this year
in fact Wood looks very good the contested marking in the second qtr got me very happy
JA will play round 1 and will become a very good swing man for us, also plays the ball and the man hard.
Davis was in and out of the game but did some nice things
Pendlebury was very quiet did nothing wrong but nothing spectacular either.
Egan in the space of a minute can look like a superstar then a EFL player if he gets rid of the brain fades will be useful
Thomas loked good but still does too much sometimes like taking a mark 15 out and handpassing over egan for a behind instead of going back, lucky its a praccy match in the seniors he would of been lynched. Still kicked goal of the year
Dawes is massive and was decent in the back line but looked uncomfortable
Both shaw boys were fantatsic, rhyce was very dominant in particular
Obree and swan are our clearnces mids to help out burns
Cook did some nice things but also looked slightly soft on the and man in some contests
Trav worked very hard all day
Rocca looks fit and untouchable in contested situations.
Iles was average to good nothign exciting nothing terrible
Toovey looked good in teh backline was keeping his feet, getting to constests runnig hard and hitting targets, really worked hard and looks like he was an afl player out there today
Interesting way of putting it... :cool:
CENTERMAN
1 Mar 2008, 18:48
Finally, theres one thing I noticed today, and that is Shane O'Bree. Its hard for people on here to accept this, but Obe is one of our best, if not, our best midfielder. He is very underrated and largely maligned. He does the job week in week out and is a large benefit in the side who will be missed once he retires, if we don't find an immediate replacement. He is very important to the team's midfield structure and will be very important this year, again.
I couldnt agree more, and he looked fit and hard today. Travis kept us in it-top game..
typewriter
1 Mar 2008, 18:54
i was also there and id have to agree and disagree with certain aspects of your analysis
1. Toovey needs to go back a few grades and learn the basic skills of desicion making hitting targets. i will give him one thing his defensive efforts were quite good but 3 times at least his decision making and missing simple targets in the back half resulted in goals to the opposition unfortunatly when your a backman your skills must be spot on.
2. agree with wood and fraser combo looked really promising wood delivered the ball well didnt panic kicked a goal took marks around the ground and showed courage going back with the flight of the ball very impressed.
other notes on the game - egan made 1 or 2 errors by foot but predominatly looked great showed speed took them on kicked the ball long.
Lonie should never play for collingwood in the afl again terrible looked out of his depth didnt want to chase and got scared when he got the ball terrible.
i like the look of dawes but id rather see him up forward looked a little lost in my books down back.
cook showed some promise especially in the 2nd half
overall we didnt deserve to be within 2 goals at 3/4 time our disposal going forward was terrible and we lacked run at times. but it is only a practice game i think we will be very different come round 1
Did Brogan play for Port? I rate their ruck combo of Lade/Brogan the best in the AFL and it sounds like Fraser/Wood did really well.
Did Didak play much a midfield role?
I know I'm a bit negative, but it would be nice if we just once looked like we were going to win a game.
we did if thomas kicked a goal from a snap in the last we would of been ahead from theer it was down hill
Opti, I agree with you on Lonie. I think this year will be his last on our list.
However, Egan has an abundance of talent and on today's performance is in our best 22. Full of poise, confidence and class and rarely wastes a disposal. His footskills are required in the team. He is nowhere near the chopping block imo.
This season is make or break for Toovey and I think he will faulter. I'd be happy to be proven wrong on him and I definitely agree his best position is as a backman- not as a tagger or midfielder.
Cooky and Iles are in a better position to remain on the list, however both are not backmen, they should be used as midfielders or wingmen.
I agree about lonie, with egan im sure its because he is so full of talent thats why he frustrates me if he reaches it he would be magnificent
reason i compared toovey to iles and cook is at the moment all three are vying for the small defender slot and right now toovey is a better propect deep in defence imo but yes the other two are better midfielders although i rate toovey as a tagger also
Interesting way of putting it... :cool:
Yeah a the girl and other guys i was with said they think i may of cracked a chub lol, it was exciting
Did Brogan play for Port? I rate their ruck combo of Lade/Brogan the best in the AFL and it sounds like Fraser/Wood did really well.
Did Didak play much a midfield role?
i think it was lade and a junior didnt see brogan but wasnt certain on all the port players in truth
yes didak played a fair amount of midfield looked solid
Snag Breac
1 Mar 2008, 19:02
A great atmosphere at the game today. I loved the way the fans just took possession of the pitch at every break, despite the best efforts of the groundsmen/security people.
I'll just stick some pics in here, Pielebo. Here's Cam Wood's goal. He did so well. He's going to be great.
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And Rusling got squashed at one point and seemed a bit out of it. He was walking up and down right in front of us, shaking his head, as if to clear it. Some C'wood support person tried to get him to go off, but he wouldn't. But then a runner came out and he left and didn't come back. Looked a bit concussed.
i think it was lade and a junior didnt see brogan but wasnt certain on all the port players in truth
yes didak played a fair amount of midfield looked solid
:thumbsu: Thanks
Snag Breac
1 Mar 2008, 19:07
The Pies started slowly and warmed up somewhat. Rocca scored just 2mins 42 secs into the game:) Starting as he means to go on this year.
Not sure which pics I've uploaded. Those of you who were at the game will know what was going on.:thumbsu:
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Snag Breac
1 Mar 2008, 19:10
Heater escaping with the ball
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Snag Breac
1 Mar 2008, 19:13
This might be the one of Egan taking a mark. He was great today - all over the place.
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I'd rather Iles in the team over Cook and Toovey. I'd rather Cox over all of them. I guess it's horses for courses. Iles would be in the team if we wanted extra rebound and Toovey if we needed to shut down a small/medium player. I just think we need a rebounder more than a shutdown defender with O'Brien, Cox, Goldsack capable of doing that.
My round 1 team would be at this stage
B: Goldsack (if ready), Wakelin, O'Brien
HB: H.Shaw, Maxwell, R.Shaw
C: Clarke, Swan, Lockyer
HF: Thomas, Cloke, Didak
F: Davis, Rocca, Wood
R: Fraser, Pendlebury, O'Bree
Int: Egan, Medhurst, Burns, one ofAnthony/Brown/Reid/Rusling
Emg: Anthony/Brown/Rusling/Reid (two of them), Iles
It's tough finding the balance, and I think it's good we have depth outside the top 22 (certainly better than this time last year). I found it hard to fit in the 3rd tall forward.
Snag Breac
1 Mar 2008, 19:19
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CENTERMAN
1 Mar 2008, 19:20
Heater played his usual solid game but the one that caught my eye a little was Ryan Cook. He loves the corridor and runs and runs and runs. His off the ball running today was terrific.
Snag Breac
1 Mar 2008, 19:23
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Just a beautiful sight.
I'd rather Iles in the team over Cook and Toovey. I'd rather Cox over all of them. I guess it's horses for courses. Iles would be in the team if we wanted extra rebound and Toovey if we needed to shut down a small/medium player. I just think we need a rebounder more than a shutdown defender with O'Brien, Cox, Goldsack capable of doing that.
My round 1 team would be at this stage
B: Goldsack (if ready), Wakelin, O'Brien
HB: H.Shaw, Maxwell, R.Shaw
C: Clarke, Swan, Lockyer
HF: Thomas, Cloke, Didak
F: Davis, Rocca, Wood
R: Fraser, Pendlebury, O'Bree
Int: Egan, Medhurst, Burns, one ofAnthony/Brown/Reid/Rusling
Emg: Anthony/Brown/Rusling/Reid (two of them), Iles
It's tough finding the balance, and I think it's good we have depth outside the top 22 (certainly better than this time last year). I found it hard to fit in the 3rd tall forward.
very good team id expect rusling will definetly be in the side if he is fit, and also ja but looking at the side i cant say who i would take out very good position to be in
Snag Breac
1 Mar 2008, 19:26
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Just a beautiful sight.
Oh yes was fantastic to see that again, was the first game ive seen live this year and considering it was a practice match i didnt expect to be too vocal but that got the adrenline up and the roar out of me.
Really felt like football seasonw as back right at that moment today
Snag Breac
1 Mar 2008, 19:35
This is for MartyThomas - sorry I didn't see you today - MagpieGirl, Grace Darling and all the other Dale fans out there. He tried so hard today. It just didn't come off every time.
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Snag Breac
1 Mar 2008, 19:40
Josh worked like a man auditioning for captain. Tapped out well, but the ball didn't always emerge in the right direction. Not his fault.
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Snag Breac
1 Mar 2008, 19:43
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Great to hear abit about the game how did Clarke go will he have a season like the end of last year
typewriter
1 Mar 2008, 19:47
Great to hear abit about the game how did Clarke go will he have a season like the end of last year
clarke was excellent off his half back/wing.
brogan didnt play it was lade and deluca against wood and fraser i would have to say we won that contest it was good to see wood and fraser resting up forward and wood getting his goal drifting forward whilst in the ruck fraser won quite a few tapouts against lade which was good
Snag Breac
1 Mar 2008, 19:49
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Snag Breac
1 Mar 2008, 19:56
Great to hear abit about the game how did Clarke go will he have a season like the end of last year
Marty was very effective. He kicked with distinct accuracy. In the last quarter he could have had a shot at goal, but passed it to someone else. don't know why - he was always scoring them in Ireland.:( He was certainly very popular with the crowd, who cheered just about every time he got the ball. A lot of Marty Clarke Club members out there today.:thumbsu:
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MagpieGirl_13
1 Mar 2008, 20:03
Love the pics Snag!!
mmmm.... Dale....mmmm..... LOL:p:D
Watched the game today and l was very disappointed with the general skill disposal and decision making of the team. Most of Port's goals were due to turnovers because of crap disposal across the centre of the field. I just don't know why they keep on persisting with chipping it around when they have tall targets one on one in the forward line. Port were clean with their disposal today.
To me Dawes looked looked a bit lost in the backline, he should be up forward but for some reason Malthouse seems to want to persist with this.
Apart from a few spurts Egan seemed to be lethargic in my opinion.
Clokes goalkicking hasn't improved over the off season but his general field play was very good.
Thomas had a good game (that goal on the half time siren was unbelievable) apart from his brain explosion when he marked 20 out in front of goal in the last and decided to handball it to a player running forward only to spray the handball through for a behind. Goal would have levelled the scores.
Positives were Anthony, Rocca's first half, Harry in the backline and Wood showed plenty of promise.
However for some strange reason I keep on thinking we are behind the eight ball with the season only 3 weeks away.
I think the reason Rusling went off was because Anthony tried to snap a goal from a scrimmage deep in the forward line, and only succeeded in hitting Rusling in the chops.
Snag Breac
1 Mar 2008, 20:17
Dale was really grateful for that bizarre bounce by the umpire.
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martyTHOMAS
1 Mar 2008, 20:27
This is for MartyThomas - sorry I didn't see you today - MagpieGirl, Grace Darling and all the other Dale fans out there. He tried so hard today. It just didn't come off every time.
http://i26.tinypic.com/rmn3t5.jpg
:eek::D:D:D
wow!
wonderful pic!
All the pics i took of Dale were blurry apart from one.
Snag Breac
1 Mar 2008, 20:28
Rocca scoring one of his 3 goals.
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martyTHOMAS
1 Mar 2008, 20:28
Love the pics Snag!!
mmmm.... Dale....mmmm..... LOL:p:D
i agree, mmmm :D:D:D
Snag Breac
1 Mar 2008, 20:48
Rhyce Shaw had some very useful moments.
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martyTHOMAS
1 Mar 2008, 20:53
Rhyce Shaw had some very useful moments.
http://i27.tinypic.com/2ro44xv.jpg
God you take the best pictures!
lol at dale :)
Forzaport
1 Mar 2008, 21:02
Did Brogan play for Port? I rate their ruck combo of Lade/Brogan the best in the AFL and it sounds like Fraser/Wood did really well.
Did Didak play much a midfield role?
Brogan didn't play and Lade was a bit underdone - We had deluca who has showed plenty of improvement so far this pre-season.
From listening to the radio, fraser wasn't very impressive today (maybe underdone as well), but wood was brilliant. Collingwood did very well to get him :thumbsu:
BTW, great photos!
Snag Breac
1 Mar 2008, 21:14
Wood looked very promising in the ruck, MarkT:thumbsu:.
http://i32.tinypic.com/2nm3dcl.jpg
Paddywackers
1 Mar 2008, 21:17
Rhyce Shaw had some very useful moments.
http://i27.tinypic.com/2ro44xv.jpg
Is the Port player sticking his hand up JA's arse?
Snag Breac
1 Mar 2008, 21:19
Is the Port player sticking his hand up JA's arse?
He might be, off camera, but that was certainly Shaw. I've got the follow-up pic, but am tired fighting with tinypics.:( Will try to post it later.
Paddywackers
1 Mar 2008, 21:26
He might be, off camera, but that was certainly Shaw. I've got the follow-up pic, but am tired fighting with tinypics.:( Will try to post it later.
The pics are awesome mate. And yeah it looks like the Port guy has done a Hoopawati on Rhyce.
Snag Breac
1 Mar 2008, 21:28
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Harries08
1 Mar 2008, 21:47
Why is it consistantly stated that our skills are not p to scratch. Could the people that go to training give me some insight into specific drills that the boys do that improve their disposal. Or offer me a reason why the skills are below par. Cheers boys and girls Harries