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Will post Douglas' soon. Our coverage started at the end of the first quarter here and so I missed his 5 possesions I think. However I watched him from then on.
Richard Douglas
Might have missed a bit but here is what I saw on TV from 7 min to go in the 1st quarter.
- Did well to slip a tackle inthe pocket but missed a left foot snap (needs to & should have kicked it).
- Chased & put pressure on in the forward line without laying a tackle (probably couldn't of done more in that situation).
- Used the ball well through the middle of the ground & then pushed hard in the same play & got a crumb & gave off a handball (really good).
- Chased Hodge hard to create pressure.
- received ball through the middle, put the foot down to run 10 - 15m and then pumped it long which went over the top of the leading FF and his opponent. The ball held up and the defender was able get back on it (not sure what NC would have thought of this as there may have been an opportunity to pass to the leading Sellar. However with the wind he had as much chance to kick the goal and allow Sellar to turn quickly and try and beat his opponent in a foot race. It was ok for mine).
- worked hard to put pressure on in our forward line but hen allowed Young to get passed him way too easily (this should never happen and his tackling needs to be looked at. For mine it is a technique thing. He doesn't go for the hips).
- Again pressured in forward line but didn't over committ and allowed the Guerra to get off a disposal (He needed to committ to this one and force a bad disposal. Again go for the hips and just crunch him).
- At a crumb put body in front of an opponent that created space for McGregor to goal (This was excellent and would not be noticed by most).
- Used ball well on the wing to Vanberlo who fell over but was able to get a handball off (no problem with the kick as it was pefect for VB to run onto it and then give off a handball, VB made the kick look poor).
- Over committed and allowed Hodge to run around him (very poor).
- Made a good tackle late in the game at a stoppage.
- The very next stoppage he was right on Mitchell's arse but still could quite stop him getting the ball out (this was ok because Mitchell's hands were not clean & he is not the first person to not stop Mitchell it that situation. However Mitchell's effort still allowed the ball to get to a teammate and they kicked a goal. So it was not perfect but was not far away either).
Overall he had 7 kicks & 4 handpasses. IMO is close to making it but is still not there due to some obvious reasons. As a coach you would not be unhappy as you know his weaknesses can be fixed and his strengths are very good and someting every team would want.
Weaknesses - Bad tackling technique
Strenth - Good disposal, great work ethic, works for others
Prediction - Will not play round one but will be an emergency
Drummond
1 Mar 2008, 21:29
- At a crumb put body in front of an opponent that created space for McGregor to goal (This was excellent and would not be noticed by most).
Was very good I agree, was the best thing he did tonight.
- Used ball well on the wing to Vanberlo who fell over but was able to get a handball off (no problem with the kick as it was pefect for VB to run onto it and then give off a handball, VB made the kick look poor).
No, the kick WAS poor. It was too long, VB would’ve been away had the kick hit him. He needed to stretch and as a result he juggled the mark.
Overall he had 7 kicks & 4 handpasses. IMO is close to making it but is still not there due to some obvious reasons. As a coach you would not be unhappy as you know his weaknesses can be fixed and his strengths are very good and someting every team would want.
Weaknesses - Bad tackling technique
Strenth - Good disposal, great work ethic, works for others
He has more weaknesses than simply a bad tackling technique.
Chris Knights
A pretty useful game, but possibly not quite up to normal standards.
My difficulty in being precise is that I ended up watching it on Foxtel, and it's very difficult to tell how much game time he actually had.
To me it seemed that he was part of the rotational scheme getting a half quarter each per quarter. I'm estimating that he played around 50% (60% max) for his 15 possessions.
IMO his first half was better than his second (10 disposals v 5 in the 2nd), with the exception of that superb nine pointer he kicked into the wind when it really counted.
That goal was pretty typical of his disposal by foot which also included an excellent right foot pass in the first quarter. He has come a long way with that part of his game over the past 3 years.
He did fire off a couple of dodgy handballs, but to his credit did attempt to get into the pack to retrieve it or hold the opposition up.
Another negative was a rather amateurish attempt to jump through an opposition player when cornered, which obviously ended up with a holding the ball.
The game was physically a tough one IMO with players going in very hard for the ball or tackling ferociously when the opposition had the ball. Knights lost nothing in this department as he has definitely strengthened up over the pre-season.
Overall, given his limited game time, Knights gets a handy pass for a good team contribution without getting a special star stamped on the back of his right hand.
No, the kick WAS poor. It was too long, VB would’ve been away had the kick hit him. He needed to stretch and as a result he juggled the mark.
He has more weaknesses than simply a bad tackling technique.
Watch the replay again! The kick was perfect and all VB needed to do was run onto it and then give off a handball to the team mate running past. He miss judged it and then had to stretch. You are wrong!
Nige_Bix
1 Mar 2008, 21:41
Chris Knights
My difficulty in being precise is that I ended up watching it on Foxtel,
Was your foxtel picture going off briefly from time to time?
Was your foxtel picture going off briefly from time to time?
Nup.
I'm on satellite - are you??
Nige_Bix
1 Mar 2008, 22:32
Nup.
I'm on satellite - are you??nope - cable - all our boxes are doing it - been like it for a day or two.
Baron Winds
1 Mar 2008, 23:03
Watch the replay again! The kick was perfect and all VB needed to do was run onto it and then give off a handball to the team mate running past. He miss judged it and then had to stretch. You are wrong!
Dont bother arguing with him mate, nothing you say will change his opinion on Douglas regardless of if he's right or wrong
Southerntakeover
2 Mar 2008, 03:56
Dont bother arguing with him mate, nothing you say will change his opinion on Douglas regardless of if he's right or wrong
Id normally love to disagree with Drummond, but.... you cant get into vB....
jenny61_99
2 Mar 2008, 07:56
Brett Burton:
I am glad I got the Birdman on an ON night!:D
Burton came on with 10:25 to go in the first quarter.
He positioned himself badly in a marking contest, ball cleared by Hawks.
Burton on the lead, misses but recovers well to pass off, then gets back in goal square to go for a screamer - misses (Douglas roves/misses).
Burton kicking from outside 50, falls short (Sellar & ?? clash, mark dropped, cleared by Hawks.
Sellar/Tippett fly for mark and miss, quick "scoop" by Tippett at bottom of pack to Burton who roves and goals.
Maric gives 50 away but Burton intercepts at CHF. Handballs to Kenny Mc. who kicks to goal square. Off hands Mcleod roves and kicks a point.Second quarter:
Porps to Sellar spoiled, Burton roves passes back to Porps who kicks poorly Hawks clear.
Porps to Burton back to Porps to Kenny, missed - Hawks clear.
Porps honours Burton lead, beautiful pass by Burton to Mcleod who goals.
Burton out marked. Rebound by Mcleod to Burton who drops the mark.To half time Burton has 1 goal, and 1 goal assist.
Third Quarter:
Burton goes for speccy, misses. Sellar caught HTB, Hawks clear.
Bock long into 50 Burton flies, misses. McGreg bludgeoned but persists and goals.
Burton flies but drops mark. Porps from outside 50, misses.
Reilly/McKay effect turnover, Burton marks and misses.
Bock to pack who flew, Burton stays down roves and goals.
Porps from outside 50 to top of square BURTON FLIES AND MARKS!!!! Goal.
Vince to pack, Burton flies and misses.
Moran to goal square, Burton has 2 against him, makes a contest but Hawks clear.
VB marks, pass to Burton who misses.A brilliant quarter by the Birdman, who now has 3 goals and an assist and a very speccy mark!
Fourth Quarter:
Bock to Stevens outside 50 to Burton lead and mark in pocket. Miss.
Burton marks outside 50 (clever mark with flight of ball), bombs away to pack. Hawks mark and clear the ball.
Griffin does come good suff, Burton attacks the ball at CHF resulting in a ball up. (Hawks win clearnance).Didn't see Burton again (could have been off the field by then?).
Couple of things. Is he under instruction to always go for the speccy, or has he been given free reign? The possibility of injuries is massive when you see him throwing himself around. Good thing though when he chose not to contest the mark, he roved and either goaled or assisted in a goal.
It was an on night for Burton (that could have yielded far better results). I think I'd like to review him next week too. Could be interesting. ;):D
NikkiNoo
2 Mar 2008, 08:09
Vince to pack, Burton flies and misses.
He didn't miss, he managed to take out Sellar, McGregor and three Hawthorn defenders, all at once! :D
jenny61_99
2 Mar 2008, 08:37
He didn't miss, he managed to take out Sellar, McGregor and three Hawthorn defenders, all at once! :D
:thumbsu: It was like watching a game of ten pin! :p
I thought Doughty,Shirley and Goody were off their games. Was Shirley on Hodge? It didnt seem like it:(
I thought Doughty,Shirley and Goody were off their games. Was Shirley on Hodge? It didnt seem like it:(
Disappointing to see both Hodge, and particular Mitchell get so much of the ball. I think Thompson was on Mitchell...
NikkiNoo
2 Mar 2008, 11:27
Disappointing to see both Hodge, and particular Mitchell get so much of the ball. I think Thompson was on Mitchell...
Reilly was at one stage as well. Pretty much in the first half I don't think there was a lot of 'run with' occuring. Towards the end of the second quarter I noticed VB move onto him and Shirley was being played off the wing at one stage and then moved onto Mitchell and he quietened down after that.
Thompson started on hodge, giving away the first free kick of the game... for no good reason. Douglass was running with Mitchell for a good period.
And with Knighta - he was back to making an unnaceptable number of bad decisions last night. When he had space, he did well - good disposal, good decisions. When he's in traffic, he made some blues - noticeably handballing and putting other player under pressure, when he needed to be aware there was a better handball option.
I wonder if the AFL will persist with their trial rule of "any player that tackles Luke Hodge will incur a free kick penalty."
I wonder if the AFL will persist with their trial rule of "any player that tackles Luke Hodge will incur a free kick penalty."
I rate Hodge as one of the best players in the AFL - a genuine star.
But fair dinkum - he got at least 3 frees last night that Johnny Nobody would never have got in his whole career.
I recorded the game and had another look at them and they were NOT legitimate frees. They stunk of the "protected species" free.
Mind you, the performances of the umpires stunk overall IMO - very difficult to follow. :thumbsd: