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malteaser
3 Mar 2008, 17:29
Listening to Harry on Sen talking about a new game plan, because the one last year obviously didn't work. Can anyone who has seen the pies play this year tell me if anything has changed with our game plan.:confused: To me it is our skills, and maybe he is saying this hide this reason.
hellfire
3 Mar 2008, 17:42
Judging by Saturday... our new game plan is to do down the boundary lines every time... and never use the corridor.
Oh wait... that's not new.
Hmmm I'm stumped.
Missing targets doesn't seem all that new to me
Medders_7
3 Mar 2008, 17:48
It seemed to me we have actually taken a backwards step from last year judging by our poor disposals thus far, but atleast Rocca is kicking sraight!
It seemed to me we have actually taken a backwards step from last year judging by our poor disposals thus far, but atleast Rocca is kicking sraight!
our skill level was the same this time last year, remeber rnd 1 versus kangaroos it was terrible.
the game plan isnt really new, hand pass run 10meters kick 50 meters then same again. Basically same as last year really
the game plan isnt really new, hand pass run 10meters kick 50 meters then same again. Basically same as last year really
That's not the game plan that was employed on the weekend
That's not the game plan that was employed on the weekend
yeah most of it was disjointed and hitting port targets instead of black and white ones, but hey lets all get negative.
Yes i was at the game
yeah most of it was disjointed and hitting port targets instead of black and white ones, but hey lets all get negative.
Yes i was at the gameI was at the game too and I'm not being negative, they simply didn't employ the game plan you described
CENTERMAN
3 Mar 2008, 19:01
Judging by Saturday... our new game plan is to do down the boundary lines every time... and never use the corridor.
Oh wait... that's not new.
Hmmm I'm stumped.
Spot on, they play there all the time..
dalethomas13
3 Mar 2008, 23:31
Judging by Saturday... our new game plan is to do down the boundary lines every time... and never use the corridor.
Oh wait... that's not new.
Hmmm I'm stumped.
The purpose of using the boundary line is to stretch the opposition. It is not a bad thing.
I was at the game on Saturday and they definitely tried to implement some new tactics, namely hit leading targets wide and then try to immediately spot up a moving (leading or linking) target through the corridor which obviously failed on numerous occassions due to dodgy and poor disposals.
The boys will eventually iron this out and should be able to regularly use it to good effect.
However, in saying that I would like to see a lot more rapid fire handballs and run through the corridor but I have faith in any game plan MM attempts.
kbutcher24
4 Mar 2008, 07:59
It seemed to me we have actually taken a backwards step from last year judging by our poor disposals thus far, but atleast Rocca is kicking sraight!
backward step?
how can you make that call based on a practice game where we didnt have our best 22 and had players trialed in different positions
CENTERMAN
4 Mar 2008, 08:23
I don't think hitting targets is a tactic, its a skill and ours were down a bit on sat. As far as using the corridor? yeah,, maybe we centered the ball a little bit but not a obvious change IMO.
The best way to see how we carry the ball is to watch how wide cloke has to lead to find the ball. All his marks are taken 50-60m out on the boundary.
daics cousin
4 Mar 2008, 09:45
As mentioned on another thread,according to brad scott,the pies have been using the intra club games for 2 reasons,the aim is two fold.
Firstly to get games under the belt of the younger players,like dawes,anthony,brown,cook,macarthy etc,moreso than to win the games.
Secondly,the game plan is to play high intensity football over 4 quarters without letting up.this was crucial last year when we fell away over certain,times of the game,which cost us premiership points.
The aim i would say has been fitness so we work high intensity,for one quarter then 2 quarters and work our way into high intensity footy for 4 quarters,so if we are in a winning position say by half time or three quarter time we can smash teams in the last quarter,without dropping off like last year which cost us dearly.
Any way only time will tell,however maybe they have spent more time on fitness than ball skills,which was evident throughout the intra club games.
Your thoughts?
CENTERMAN
4 Mar 2008, 10:28
As mentioned on another thread,according to brad scott,the pies have been using the intra club games for 2 reasons,the aim is two fold.
Firstly to get games under the belt of the younger players,like dawes,anthony,brown,cook,macarthy etc,moreso than to win the games.
Secondly,the game plan is to play high intensity football over 4 quarters without letting up.this was crucial last year when we fell away over certain,times of the game,which cost us premiership points.
The aim i would say has been fitness so we work high intensity,for one quarter then 2 quarters and work our way into high intensity footy for 4 quarters,so if we are in a winning position say by half time or three quarter time we can smash teams in the last quarter,without dropping off like last year which cost us dearly.
Any way only time will tell,however maybe they have spent more time on fitness than ball skills,which was evident throughout the intra club games.
Your thoughts?
I also posted after you on the practice match thread about this one. The fitness instead of skills may be all it is at the moment. Like you said they (coaching staff) will know exactly where they're at and have probably timed it perfectly. I'm always nervous this time of year when i see other teams going along nicely. It true what they say though, it doesn't count for much just yet. MM will flick the switch in a week or two...i hope..
hellfire
4 Mar 2008, 11:15
The purpose of using the boundary line is to stretch the opposition. It is not a bad thing.
I was at the game on Saturday and they definitely tried to implement some new tactics, namely hit leading targets wide and then try to immediately spot up a moving (leading or linking) target through the corridor which obviously failed on numerous occassions due to dodgy and poor disposals.
The boys will eventually iron this out and should be able to regularly use it to good effect.
However, in saying that I would like to see a lot more rapid fire handballs and run through the corridor but I have faith in any game plan MM attempts.
Yes I noticed that too. And as you said, it failed almost every time. If we can improve our disposal it could be effective.
But the bottom line is, the best teams use the corridor, except for us.
daics cousin
4 Mar 2008, 12:52
Guys you would think especially beacuse we have an abundance of forward options,why don't we play more direct,and use the centre corridor a lot more.One would think that through the centre straight to a forward is the quickest way to goal?
Instead,using the boundary lines may stretch the opposition but with our disposal it causes turnover,and in most cases a goal to the opposition in most instances.
Your thoughts.
CENTERMAN
4 Mar 2008, 13:03
Your right, and going wide just allows the opposition to take a stroll down the middle of the ground (shortcut) and meet us on "their" half back line before we even get there.
Our most successful game plan involves hard running into space and quick thinking downfield by foot. We were #1 in kicks last year for a reason and finished 4th for a reason. It works pretty well and kicking beats running in terms of breaking up defensive set ups.
Notwithstanding, it would be nice to see a Plan B, and one that might involve a direct running game when the opportunity arises.
As with others, I didn't see anything other than some scrappy footy to suggest we had an alternate plan. When we played well though, there was enough to suggest that we should be competitive for round 1.
Magnus the Magpie
5 Mar 2008, 15:04
Our most successful game plan involves hard running into space and quick thinking downfield by foot. We were #1 in kicks last year for a reason and finished 4th for a reason. It works pretty well and kicking beats running in terms of breaking up defensive set ups.
Notwithstanding, it would be nice to see a Plan B, and one that might involve a direct running game when the opportunity arises.
As with others, I didn't see anything other than some scrappy footy to suggest we had an alternate plan. When we played well though, there was enough to suggest that we should be competitive for round 1.
Yes! We did it to perfection against Geelong in 2006 and well enough on occasions last year (e.g. Sydney every time we played them and at times against Adelaide at AAMI). When we do it well, we tend to use the whole field and, basically, run the opposition off their feet.
We are helped against teams that mostly like to run the ball from the back using handball (e.g. Sydney and Hawthorn) because that style of footy uses up an awful lot of energy.