Teams for Saturday - Sellar dropped

[Dandy_GO]

NAB Cup Final
Adelaide v St Kilda
Saturday March 8, 7.20pm ACDT at AAMI Stadium, Adelaide

ADELAIDE
B: Johncock, Rutten, Stevens
HB: Symes, Bock, van Berlo
C: McLeod, Thompson, Mackay
HF: Porplyzia, Tippett, Goodwin
F: Vince, McGregor, Burton
Foll: Maric, Reilly, Knights
I/C: Moran, Griffin, Bassett, Edwards, Doughty, Shirley, Douglas, Campbell
EMG: Massie, Sellar, Jericho

ST KILDA
B: Gilbert, Hudghton, Baker
HB: Gram, S Fisher, L Fisher
C: Fiora, Hayes, Montagna
HF: Harvey, Riewoldt, Clarke
F: Schneider, Koschitzke, Gardiner
Foll: King, Dal Santo, Ball 14
I/C (from): Gardiner, Clarke, Rix, Geary, Milne, Jones, Birss, Armitage, Eddy, McQualter, Blake, Allen

[Dandy_GO]

Interesting to see we've gone for a shorter side this week, with Sellar out for Campbell, not that it makes a massive difference given the 8 man interchange.
Sad to see, to be honest. I was enjoying seeing Sellar play, even if he had been quiet over the last couple of weeks.
He'll get his chances.
No Gehrig either, which makes things a bit easier for our backmen.

[bloods01]

Apart from the Pies game Sellar has done virtually nothing. The reason why Tippett was picked instead of him is because he can play both up forward and in the ruck. Looks very promising Tippett.

[Dandy_GO]

Apart from the Pies game Sellar has done virtually nothing. The reason why Tippett was picked instead of him is because he can play both up forward and in the ruck. Looks very promising Tippett.
Agreed.
Sellar will get there, but he's still got a lot to learn.

[IddyBiddy]

Disappionted for Sellar, but it is prob the extra little kick in the backside he needs to keep pushing himself to get to the next level. I think what we are prob looking at (minus emerg) is the squad for round one.

Pleased Campbell has been given another shot in the middle, we need some tough nuts in the middle against the Saints, if their midfield gets on top the supply to their forwards will be outstanding and even an A grade defence like ours will struggle.

[Capitalist]

wll campbell gets a run

that will be interesting

I expect a full analysis of his every disposal from Drummond - don't let us down.

[Vader]

Disappionted for Sellar, but it is prob the extra little kick in the backside he needs to keep pushing himself to get to the next level. I think what we are prob looking at (minus emerg) is the squad for round one.

Pleased Campbell has been given another shot in the middle, we need some tough nuts in the middle against the Saints, if their midfield gets on top the supply to their forwards will be outstanding and even an A grade defence like ours will struggle.

Agree with this.

Saw the Saints play Geelong two weeks ago. He didn't have any support, nor much opposition (with Scarlett & Harley not playing), but Kosi was outstanding that day. He'd be a handful for any of our forwards in that kind of form.

[betterthanu]

Moran is the player we have been lacking for a Kosi like match up. Kosi will prob be too good for him though but hopefully that match up eventuates.

[Redline]

Good to see Rocket Campbell back in.

Unfortunate for Seller, but its not a bad thing for him to have a run with the Bays, as while he has played a lot of football there in the past things change so it gives him a chacne to get settled out there.

[Vader]

Moran is the player we have been lacking for a Kosi like match up. Kosi will prob be too good for him though but hopefully that match up eventuates.

Actually, I think Rutten will get Kosi.

Assuming that St Kilda's forward lines up as named (all pigs fuelled and ready to fly), I'd be putting Rutten on Kosi, Bock on Riewoldt & Moran on Gardiner.

Bassett & Stevens don't have the height to go with Gardiner, while I reckon Moran would beat him at ground level while being competitive in the air.

[mad-saint-guy]

Bassett & Stevens don't have the height to go with Gardiner, while I reckon Moran would beat him at ground level while being competitive in the air.

Gardiner FP = Charlie
Gardiner INT = Michael

[KUNG FU]

Stevens has a good record against Riewoldt.

[-CG-]

It would've been good experience for Sellar if he was to play this weekend, playing in a 'final'. I assume he'll line up for Glenelg in the SANFL trials.

[KUNG FU]

Wow, I just realised how short that forward line is. And no one except the rucks on the bench to fill the spot. Also great to see MacKay and Vince named on the field.

[Capitalist]

the question is

will Gill automatically replace Tippet in the team come Rd 1 ?

[betterthanu]

^^ If we are seriously about the "redevelopment" then you would think one of Sellar and Tippett will be in the side every week. Otherwise we have just moved the age problems of our midfiled to our forwardline.

[macca23]

The omission of Sellar flags the fact that Tippet looks like being given a full game as a foward with an occasional burst on the ball.

Campbell's selection was a little bit of a surprise but not undeserved and gives or frees up an extra on-baller, which will be handy given the warm conditions forecast.

Just on Campbell's selection, has anyone got a cold spoon for Drummond? :)

[hey shorty]

He will need it, that is unless he doesnt go well again. :D

He had to get another go IMO. One last chance to push his case for Rd1. And as people have mentioned, it frees up another midfielder or Campbell could have a run-with role.

Just on Sellar, he will get another crack..... but he's a fair way off IMO. Hopefully he takes this decision as the kick in the pants he may have needed and he goes back to the Bays for the first few rounds and rips it up, unless its against the Blues of course :p

[Vader]

Gardiner FP = Charlie
Gardiner INT = Michael

Of course. My mistake.

[crowsarethebest]

We probably got too excited over Sellar's performance in Dubai. Really this year he should just try and establish himself in the Bays side and put in some solid performances. He's still so young, is younger than some of the draftees this year and he hasn't got the engine still for AFL yet. However he has worked his butt off and looks much fitter than last year. He looked slow and immobile last week though. I think he's burnt out a bit now, this pre-season has taken its toll on him.

[Eastern Crow]

the question is

will Gill automatically replace Tippet in the team come Rd 1 ?

not a chance

Gill has no match fitness under his belt

IMO Tippett is in our best 22, with or without Gill

On Sellar, I did not expect him to play round 1, however, I thought he would play this week

[Dandy_GO]

On Sellar, I did not expect him to play round 1, however, I thought he would play this week

Aye - I agree with this - though I wasn't completely surprised by his omission. Still, good to see Campbell get another crack. Whilst I'm not entirely sure whether he's got it in him to make it at AFL level, he's certainly got the heart, which is the most important element of a footballer, and more than we can say for certain other more naturally gifted and athletic players.

[Crows Feet]

On Sellar, I did not expect him to play round 1, however, I thought he would play this week

I actually thought Sellar was a shoe-in for round one until he was dropped this week. I wonder if his omission for Campbell was a heat thing. In other words, whether we needed the extra runner (rather than KPP) to handle the conditions better.

Also, while I'd love to see Moran run with Kosi, I would've loved to have seen him run around with Buddy too. I think Neil Craig might have different expectations of him or ideas of how to use him than some of us fans.

[Freddy Bassett]

Whilst I will never bag the great man Craigy, I am disapointed in his dropping of Sellar. Im sure I and every one of you fellow crows supporters were on the edge of your seat hoping he or Tippett would kick a bag and its now not to be. I wouldnt of played him in round 1, tippett would be my preferred option, but the experience and pace of the game would of been great for him to experience. My main worry is what is going to happen back at the bay with him. Will he go back, get a good bite at the cherry and be given the oppurtunity to be what we all hope and prey he will become? Or will he be given limited oppurtunites and be droped back to the 2nds? If any Glenelg supporters reads: this I would be intersted to hear who he will be in competition against.:(

[Capitalist]

i can't believe that people are so shocked Sellar has been dropped ?

he has done nothing since Dubai and we need to really get the team set for Round 1 whilst working out who is going to be playing out of the youngsters

so the youngsters with a chance should get a game.

[Freddy Bassett]

i can't believe that people are so shocked Sellar has been dropped ?

he has done nothing since Dubai and we need to really get the team set for Round 1 whilst working out who is going to be playing out of the youngsters

so the youngsters with a chance should get a game.

What chance is Campbell for round 1 or even for the future?

[Capitalist]

What chance is Campbell for round 1 or even for the future?

obviously more than Sellar ;)

[Freddy Bassett]

obviously more than Sellar ;)

I dont want to curse anyone, but if Kenny was out for round 1 I bet Sellar would play. I think 3 midfielders could go down and Campbell would still miss

[FlyingCrow]

the question is

will Gill automatically replace Tippet in the team come Rd 1 ?
God I hope not

If Tippett is better than Gill and Kenny can keep his form Gill ahs no place in the team. He has a cult following, but as a forward he need to kick goals. His kicking from set shot is the worst I have ever consistantly seen at any level of footy from Div1 Amateurs up.

With all our players fit I can not see a spot in the team for him. He could play on a wing, but we have better players than him who can play there. I doubt he will get much game time this year. He is an "insurance" palyer.

[Freddy Bassett]

God I hope not

If Tippett is better than Gill and Kenny can keep his form Gill ahs no place in the team. He has a cult following, but as a forward he need to kick goals. His kicking from set shot is the worst I have ever consistantly seen at any level of footy from Div1 Amateurs up.

With all our players fit I can not see a spot in the team for him. He could play on a wing, but we have better players than him who can play there. I doubt he will get much game time this year. He is an "insurance" palyer.

I cant agree with you on this one. Gill will play 15 plus games this year if fit. His work rate at CHF is exceptional and he would be a tough guy to match up on. He also has the x-factor and can take a huge grab. His round 22 game vs Collingwood last year was 1st class. Dont write him off. But yes, his kicking needs to improve

[FlyingCrow]

I cant agree with you on this one. Gill will play 15 plus games this year if fit. His work rate at CHF is exceptional and he would be a tough guy to match up on. He also has the x-factor and can take a huge grab. His round 22 game vs Collingwood last year was 1st class. Dont write him off. But yes, his kicking needs to improve
If his kicking inproves I agree

But

At CHF you need the ability to kick goals. And Consistantly. If Tippett can hold that position, Gill is in trouble.

Dont get me wrong he did some good jobs last year, a year where we had some key palyers out and our worst year since Craigy took over, but at AFL level his kicking from a set shot is terrible. Heck for TAC level it is bad.

[kamikaze krow]

Moran is the player we have been lacking for a Kosi like match up. Kosi will prob be too good for him though but hopefully that match up eventuates.

I think rather moran is for the third 'monster' tall that bassett always struggles with. Add to that bassett is 31 so wont be around much longer.

[Crow-mo]

If his kicking inproves I agree

But

At CHF you need the ability to kick goals. And Consistantly. If Tippett can hold that position, Gill is in trouble.

Dont get me wrong he did some good jobs last year, a year where we had some key palyers out and our worst year since Craigy took over, but at AFL level his kicking from a set shot is terrible. Heck for TAC level it is bad.

no you don't. at CHF you have to have the ability to contest, win possession and direct play.

[jenny61_99]

no you don't. at CHF you have to have the ability to contest, win possession and direct play.

Exactly! There's no doubt that Sellar will get opportunities, but we must not forget that he is only 18! Gill, if fit, would be ahead of Sellar every day at the moment. His work rate and solid contest is top notch. Sellar still has much to learn in that regard.

[FlyingCrow]

Exactly! There's no doubt that Sellar will get opportunities, but we must not forget that he is only 18! Gill, if fit, would be ahead of Sellar every day at the moment. His work rate and solid contest is top notch. Sellar still has much to learn in that regard.
Gill is ahead of Sellar, yes.

But if Tippett looks to show a bit more than Gill at CHF. I would prefer Kenny at CHF over Gill. True Gill gets the ball down to a contest, but all that work is shatterd with his poor kicking at goal. I realise the CHF is not the primary goal scorer, but when given the chance they should convert. He does not. Maybe a forward role is not for Gill. His kicking on run and to a player is not bad.

Gill is good but I think others are better.

[jenny61_99]

Gill is ahead of Sellar, yes.

But if Tippett looks to show a bit more than Gill at CHF. I would prefer Kenny at CHF over Gill. True Gill gets the ball down to a contest, but all that work is shatterd with his poor kicking at goal. I realise the CHF is not the primary goal scorer, but when given the chance they should convert. He does not. Maybe a forward role is not for Gill. His kicking on run and to a player is not bad.

Gill is good but I think others are better.

Tippett is still an unknown quantity. It will be some time before we can categorically say he is better than anyone else. With Gill we know he contests, he defends (something Kenny Mc can't do) and he provides opportunities. He also goals on occasions. We can only hope his kicking style and problems associated with that have been/are being addressed.

BTW, how many goals did Burton miss last week?

[James_37]

Geez guys lets give gilly a break about his kicking, yes, his first match was a shocker, but after that, whilst not being brilliant in his set shots, he wasn't the worst i've seen, he kicked a couple of really good goals in fact after that, but hey, he had a bad first game so lets write him off completely. Burton is a shocker for a start, he kicks goals he shouldn't and regularly misses the ones he should, Perrie was no better, Mcgregors only good within 40 meters, even Mcleods no certainty from a set shot, so lets give him a break. IMO as long as gill is kicking from 35+ he is a decent shot on goal, I worry if he's any closer, kept as a lead up CHF he will be very useful and will kick goals as well as set them up. Tippet is definitely an unknown quantity, looks to really have that x-factor.

Going into this NAB GF, we have 2 KP forwards in Mcgregor and Tippet, which to me, makes the decision on Sellar seem strange, unless one of the defenders heads forward. IMO there is definitely room for Kenny, Gill and tippet in the same forward line, we won't have that one dominant KPF so we have to have a couple to even out the load, and with those three, whilst you wouldn't write home about their kicking ability, gee, they can take a grab.

[Kennyrocks]

Tippett is still an unknown quantity. It will be some time before we can categorically say he is better than anyone else. With Gill we know he contests, he defends (something Kenny Mc can't do) and he provides opportunities. He also goals on occasions. We can only hope his kicking style and problems associated with that have been/are being addressed.

BTW, how many goals did Burton miss last week?
Sorry to pick this out but I find it a bit like Nova continuously saying "We play new music first" over and over again. It doesn't make it true and at the end of the day you're left with the same tired tune.

[jenny61_99]

Sorry to pick this out but I find it a bit like Nova continuously saying "We play new music first" over and over again. It doesn't make it true and at the end of the day you're left with the same tired tune.


So you are telling me that Kenny Mc DEFENDS???? :eek: Im sorry, the man has the best pair of hands in our forward line and can kick goals - very solid player - no super star though - and IMO when he doesn't mark the ball, it is cleared from our forward 50 before it hits the ground. I said he can't defend, perhaps he can and he chooses not to? I'll assume by your name you are a one eyed Kenny supporter and therefore unable to see the bleeding obvious! :p;) To be fair I saw him defend once in last weeks game, and in fact made a note of it in my game synopsis because it was such a rarity. Here's what I wrote "Kenny Mc attempts defend, fails".

[J-Ro-20]

bit disappointed Sellar has been dropped. NAB cup means nothing and developement means everything.

Perhaps the boy needs some confidence and the Tigers could be the best opportunity for it.

[cocka]

bit disappointed Sellar has been dropped. NAB cup means nothing and developement means everything.

Perhaps the boy needs some confidence and the Tigers could be the best opportunity for it.

Agree. Sellar should be playing in the MMCup. Not sure how much confidence you get being dropped.

I think NC has gone for the extra midfielder to help with rotations in the heat and run St Kilda ragged, and Sellar drew the short one as Tippett and Ken are in front at this stage.

Having said all that wouldn't be suprised to see someone come out for Sellar befor the bounce.

[topjars]

bit disappointed Sellar has been dropped. NAB cup means nothing and developement means everything.

Its a Grand Final - it means more than you suggest;)
Campbells development will continue, no question; and Im sure NC will be more than happy with Sellars development.

[crowman_23]

Its a Grand Final - it means more than you suggest;)
Campbells development will continue, no question; and Im sure NC will be more than happy with Sellars development.

I'd much rather win in round one than this weekend.

[J-Ro-20]

Its a Grand Final - it means more than you suggest;)
Campbells development will continue, no question; and Im sure NC will be more than happy with Sellars development.

dont get me wrong id like to win aswell.

but id also like to win it with the kids playing. its not everyday crows have a tall forward with that much potential. if he kicks a bag in a big game like this, it could really help launch his career.

[betterthanu]

I actually care less if we win this game than the previous matches. The only reason i wanted to win the other matches is so i could continue to see the crows on tv.

[Peri Peri Sauce]

Gill is ahead of Sellar, yes.

But if Tippett looks to show a bit more than Gill at CHF. I would prefer Kenny at CHF over Gill. True Gill gets the ball down to a contest, but all that work is shatterd with his poor kicking at goal. I realise the CHF is not the primary goal scorer, but when given the chance they should convert. He does not. Maybe a forward role is not for Gill. His kicking on run and to a player is not bad.

Gill is good but I think others are better.
I would give Gill a roll further up the ground.

He can play as a tall mid, but I'd rather see him present in a HFF type way.

[Wayne's-World]

Gill is ahead of Sellar, yes.

But if Tippett looks to show a bit more than Gill at CHF. I would prefer Kenny at CHF over Gill. True Gill gets the ball down to a contest, but all that work is shatterd with his poor kicking at goal. I realise the CHF is not the primary goal scorer, but when given the chance they should convert. He does not. Maybe a forward role is not for Gill. His kicking on run and to a player is not bad.

Gill is good but I think others are better.

Kenny cannot play CHF ......players will run off him.

He's better as a roaming forward .....moving between FF and CHF with either Tippett or Gill as the designated CHF.

Tippett is so far the better CHF option even now .......but I admire Gill and like some believe a defensive role maybe his future ......his field kicking seems OK and he could be a good CHB backup option for Bock.

Sellar I think early on in his career will play FF rather than CHF where IMO he just doesn't know enough yet about playing a KP role.

[Wayne's-World]

Tippett is still an unknown quantity. It will be some time before we can categorically say he is better than anyone else. With Gill we know he contests, he defends (something Kenny Mc can't do) and he provides opportunities. He also goals on occasions. We can only hope his kicking style and problems associated with that have been/are being addressed.

BTW, how many goals did Burton miss last week?

Jenny I'll say now he will almost be a regular this season .....and I think by mid season everyone will be talking his praises.

This kid will get better week by week with each game ......he'll be a star!!!

[Capitalist]

Jenny I'll say now he will almost be a regular this season .....and I think by mid season everyone will be talking his praises.

This kid will get better week by week with each game ......he'll be a star!!!

But surely Gill can be discounted on someones "potential" ?

After what Gill showed last season i can't believe what i'm hearing in terms of him being left out.

BTW I agree with peoples thoughts on Tippet but can't see how he is going to de-throne Gill as our CHF - unless Gill becomes a HFF similar ?

[Wayne's-World]

But surely Gill can be discounted on someones "potential" ?

After what Gill showed last season i can't believe what i'm hearing in terms of him being left out.

BTW I agree with peoples thoughts on Tippet but can't see how he is going to de-throne Gill as our CHF - unless Gill becomes a HFF similar ?

Interesting debate ......comparing Tippetts potential against Gills 2006 form.

One players form doesn't always carry over to a new season ......and Tippett is just potential ATS.

But IMO Tippett will very quickly go past Gill in terms of the "total package"

Now that doesn't mean Gills AFL career is doomed ......but a CHF who is a terribly unreliable kick has to be a suspect commodity .......why else would he have been given only a 12 month contract on what was a very good debut season.

There also has to be questions on Gills body .....has broken down both PS campaigns ......

AS I have said I think he would be a great defender ......and a midfield role what with his athletic abilities is not out of the question either.

But Iam GENUINELY excited with Tippett, Porplyzia, and Griffin ;)

[Capitalist]

Interesting debate ......comparing Tippetts potential against Gills 2006 form.

One players form doesn't always carry over to a new season ......and Tippett is just potential ATS.

But IMO Tippett will very quickly go past Gill in terms of the "total package"

Now that doesn't mean Gills AFL career is doomed ......but a CHF who is a terribly unreliable kick has to be a suspect commodity .......why else would he have been given only a 12 month contract on what was a very good debut season.

There also has to be questions on Gills body .....has broken down both PS campaigns ......

AS I have said I think he would be a great defender ......and a midfield role what with his athletic abilities is not out of the question either.

But Iam GENUINELY excited with Tippett, Porplyzia, and Griffin ;)

C’mon on WW it was 2007

I understand your excitement for Tippet, Griffin and Porplyzia but I would have to argue Gills worth, he has proven already to be a difficult math-up, and in reality its was only his first game that was shocking, apart from that it was pretty stock standard Crows goal kicking with a few 50+ bombs making it the distance.
I think Gill has the potential to be an important part of the structure, his pace and marking ability combined make him an extremely difficult match up in the forward lines,

I also agree with you that Gill looks to have something for defence but where does he fit ? as a tall midfielder ? maybe but I still think he adds something to our forward line that we have lacked for a while and would imagine he isn’t quite the level of fitness that would be required.

On the injury front these types of injuries can be nursed through a players career, I’d say after a year or two they will be able to sort a regime out that avoids early season injuries (like getting him to keep up the intensive training ?)

[MickyCrow]

Some flippant attitudes here really shock me. This is an Adelaide Football Club grand final. Yes its only a preseason gf but its still a grand final. They dont come along every year, I DO care, and I hope the boys go out there and give it ALL to bring the cup home.

Winning does matter:thumbsu:

[Wayne's-World]

C’mon on WW it was 2007

I understand your excitement for Tippet, Griffin and Porplyzia but I would have to argue Gills worth, he has proven already to be a difficult math-up, and in reality its was only his first game that was shocking, apart from that it was pretty stock standard Crows goal kicking with a few 50+ bombs making it the distance.
I think Gill has the potential to be an important part of the structure, his pace and marking ability combined make him an extremely difficult match up in the forward lines,

I also agree with you that Gill looks to have something for defence but where does he fit ? as a tall midfielder ? maybe but I still think he adds something to our forward line that we have lacked for a while and would imagine he isn’t quite the level of fitness that would be required.

On the injury front these types of injuries can be nursed through a players career, I’d say after a year or two they will be able to sort a regime out that avoids early season injuries (like getting him to keep up the intensive training ?)

The question still is ......for all that optimism on Gill ......the AFC still must have queries as well .....just a 12 month contract extension.

Think Gill can play of HBF next to Bock on a tallish forwrd .....he's athletic enough to play tall and small.


;)
Heres a thought on relating one season v the next.

Your saying based on 07 that we should optimistically look to a good year from Gill.

Taking that line of thought.....

Did you think Gill based on his 06 form would have played as well as he did ......I think few would have ....in fact most were sceptical about his drafting.

[Wayne's-World]

Some flippant attitudes here really shock me. This is an Adelaide Football Club grand final. Yes its only a preseason gf but its still a grand final. They dont come along every year, I DO care, and I hope the boys go out there and give it ALL to bring the cup home.

Winning does matter:thumbsu:

Correct ....it's about a winning club culture


Great experience for Mackay, Tippett, Moran ......pressure footy and hopefully a large Adelaide crowd

[Peri Peri Sauce]

Atleast Jericho isn't playing.

We all know what happened last time he played in a NAB Cup Grand Final on home soil. :)

[Freddy Bassett]

No one would doubt Tippett has enormous potential. CHF is the hardest position to play and not a position I would play a guy who has played about 30 games of football. It is more to do about mobilitiy and reading the play than it is in kicking bags of goals and taking contested pack marks as it was 10 years ago. A CHF today can take 15 marks and only 1 or 2 are contested . Gill is the best man at our club outside of Nathan Bock to play such a position. Sellar may be suitable in 12 months.
I would be playing Tippett much closer to goal.

[Wayne's-World]

Atleast Jericho isn't playing.

We all know what happened last time he played in a NAB Cup Grand Final on home soil. :)

Without joking ....Jericho would have seen his perfect opportunity to get a position with Welsh leaving.

To get dropped after one game must be devastating to him ......becuase frankly ATM the only role I can see for him is as a depth player ......surely he'll now be delisted

[macca23]

Without joking ....Jericho would have seen his perfect opportunity to get a position with Welsh leaving.

To get dropped after one game must be devastating to him ......becuase frankly ATM the only role I can see for him is as a depth player ......surely he'll now be delisted

Yes, but a leopard can't change its spots. Not enough intensity and almost no defensive pressure. if Craig had picked him the next week he would have been seen to be condoning that.

Injury during the season may still present him one last opportunity to play for his football life.

IMO he still won't come up trumps though - history supports that.

[Crow-mo]

Some flippant attitudes here really shock me. This is an Adelaide Football Club grand final. Yes its only a preseason gf but its still a grand final. They dont come along every year, I DO care, and I hope the boys go out there and give it ALL to bring the cup home.

Winning does matter:thumbsu:


you said it yourself, YOU care.

the coaching box won't go 100%, and neither will the players. got to keep your powder dry.

[Peri Peri Sauce]

No one would doubt Tippett has enormous potential. CHF is the hardest position to play and not a position I would play a guy who has played about 30 games of football. It is more to do about mobilitiy and reading the play than it is in kicking bags of goals and taking contested pack marks as it was 10 years ago. A CHF today can take 15 marks and only 1 or 2 are contested . Gill is the best man at our club outside of Nathan Bock to play such a position. Sellar may be suitable in 12 months.
I would be playing Tippett much closer to goal.He is and will be a lot, lot more dangerous there.

[Markthirtytwo]

Yes, but a leopard can't change its spots. Not enough intensity and almost no defensive pressure. if Craig had picked him the next week he would have been seen to be condoning that.

Injury during the season may still present him one last opportunity to play for his football life.

IMO he still won't come up trumps though - history supports that.

Here's...................................................... Jenny. :p

[KingsCrow]

I don't get it. I seriously do not care if we lose this NAB cup. As long as we play the young ones, give them experience. Why drop Sellar. WHO CARES if he has had a few quite weeks, he has showed promise. Whats the point in playing Shirley, Doughty and the other regualar average players when you can play young players who although will not perform as well, WILL gain experience, and WILL show potential to be something better then an average player.


Why are we taking this game so serious.

I'd be spewing if I were a young Crows player. Just means another whole year of playing SANFL because the old farts are taking your rightful spot in the Mickey Mouse Cup (which it is, in the context of things NAB cup means nothing).

[wattsyman]

I sincerely hope not

[macca23]

I don't get it. I seriously do not care if we lose this NAB cup. As long as we play the young ones, give them experience. Why drop Sellar. WHO CARES if he has had a few quite weeks, he has showed promise. Whats the point in playing Shirley, Doughty and the other regualar average players when you can play young players who although will not perform as well, WILL gain experience, and WILL show potential to be something better then an average player.


Why are we taking this game so serious.

I'd be spewing if I were a young Crows player. Just means another whole year of playing SANFL because the old farts are taking your rightful spot in the Mickey Mouse Cup (which it is, in the context of things NAB cup means nothing).

There are 350,000 reasons for that.

[hey shorty]

There are 350,000 reasons for that.

I hate to sound so arrogant and such, but do we REALLY need the extra cash ?? For me the main reason we are going all out to win this game is to put on a show for all those who do turn out tomorrow night. And of course to get a winning culture built up.......

[KingsCrow]

There are 350,000 reasons for that.


Actually $180,000. We have already got $170,000 in the bank.

But I'd much rather develope young ones then win a pre season cup.

[macca23]

Actually $180,000. We have already got $170,000 in the bank.

But I'd much rather develope young ones then win a pre season cup.

Last genuine hit out before the season proper.

We'll be very close to fair dinkum and so will St Kilda.

As for Sellar, he's only 18. He's had a taste of the real thing now and it's up to him to play well at SANFL level and earn a spot in the weeks to come.

The man who replaces him could barely be called an experienced veteran.

[KingsCrow]

I have no problems with the player he is being replaced with. Its just Sellar should be left in teh team. He should be able to learn as much as possible from this pre season cup. Honestly whats the point in playing the same old players though.

Whats the use in leaving Sellar out of the side?

Whats the use in giving a regualar player a spot in the team ahead of a developing player who has the potential to play in that game anyway.

I just don't get it

[jenny61_99]

Here's...................................................... Jenny. :p


Nearly sprayed my screen with my drink when I read that! :p:D

Actually, I am not going to defend Jericho. I agree, he was dropped because of under-performance (though not as bad as some were saying). In his last two games for Norwood he appears to have played reasonably well (although according to Drummond who may or may not be fair in his assessment, he wasn't hard enough at the ball - but got 20 or so possessions tonight and kicked 2-3 goals), so he's there and there abouts. I too think he'll be the depth player and brought in only because of injury or exceptional perfomance from him in the SANFL.

[MickyCrow]

you said it yourself, YOU care.

the coaching box won't go 100%, and neither will the players. got to keep your powder dry.

So YOU dont care if we lose a granny, sorry I thought footy was about WINNING Grand Finals :rolleyes:

If YOU dont think the players will go 100% then you are either sadly mistaken, or a fool.

[Mad Dog]

Last genuine hit out before the season proper.

We'll be very close to fair dinkum and so will St Kilda.

As for Sellar, he's only 18. He's had a taste of the real thing now and it's up to him to play well at SANFL level and earn a spot in the weeks to come.

The man who replaces him could barely be called an experienced veteran.

Agree - I think if you make a n00b Cup GF - you owe it to all concerned to play a "Round 1 proper" side.

I have no doubt Sellar will get his chance this year.....and IMO was only dropped to bring in an extra runner for mid rotations due to the weather

[Mad Dog]

I'm thinking of adding 2 more words to the swear filter..

jericho and Rucci

[beartoo]

Do it! :thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu:

[FlyingCrow]

Last genuine hit out before the season proper.

We'll be very close to fair dinkum and so will St Kilda.

As for Sellar, he's only 18. He's had a taste of the real thing now and it's up to him to play well at SANFL level and earn a spot in the weeks to come.

The man who replaces him could barely be called an experienced veteran.
I agree
Tonights game is being used as a test run for round one. And rightly so. Its not about winning its about team dynamic.

Sellar will get his chance and he has time. Lets hope he dominates the SANFL and gets back in team by round 5.

[Gets!]

I'm thinking of adding 2 more words to the swear filter..

jericho and Rucci

If you do that, I will become a mod, you know...to help you out and all that!

[Carl Spackler]

If we had lost to the Hawks and were playing Collingwood in a practice game this weekend rather than a GF, would Sellar be in the team?

[hey shorty]

Interesting thought CS, and I suspect he probably would be.