View Full Version : Who do we put on Farmer?
Magnus the Magpie
8 Mar 2008, 15:01
This bloke has carved us up consistently since 2000 and I assume he'll be there in R1. If MM tries Lockyer on him again I'll slit my wrists. Same with R. Shaw. Neither is capable of holding a really good small forward - not strong enough and can't win one-on-ones (their value to us is hard running into space and presenting).
Who then? If fit, why not try Brodie - very strong for his size, reasonably quick, can mind a man and has the necessary mongrel. Not sure we have too many other options. Heater maybe but that might be a waste. Other suggestions?
Goldsack, marty clarke, and i woudlnt discount tarks or rhyce getting first shot.
Brodie plays he is a midfielder
The Royal Sampler
8 Mar 2008, 15:17
I'd be going with Goldsack first.
pieman123
8 Mar 2008, 15:30
goldsack or h shaw
smiddaz123
8 Mar 2008, 15:49
Marty Clarke would get torn up by Farmer imo.
Goldsack might also get exposed.
Heath Shaw will be able to do the best job out of anyone at the Pies, but we don't want him to play a purely negating role..
It'll be a tough job. I reckon Goldsack would get it at first.
What about Anthony? Is he quick enough?
Big Bucks
8 Mar 2008, 17:01
This bloke has carved us up consistently since 2000 and I assume he'll be there in R1. If MM tries Lockyer on him again I'll slit my wrists. Same with R. Shaw. Neither is capable of holding a really good small forward - not strong enough and can't win one-on-ones (their value to us is hard running into space and presenting).
Who then? If fit, why not try Brodie - very strong for his size, reasonably quick, can mind a man and has the necessary mongrel. Not sure we have too many other options. Heater maybe but that might be a waste. Other suggestions?
Have to agree here, Holland should have his measure.
R, Shaw-your kidding
Lockyer-surely you joke.
hellfire
8 Mar 2008, 17:12
Goldsack or O'Brien. Everyone we've tried in the past has been carved up. These two are our new breed of backmen, excellent one-on-one, fast, agile and both have a size advantage.
Goldsack or O'Brien. Everyone we've tried in the past has been carved up. These two are our new breed of backmen, excellent one-on-one, fast, agile and both have a size advantage.
Goldsack is best on medium, leading forwards, not smalls. And O'Brien has had very mixed results on smalls.
Not sure I love either option.
martinclarke_43
8 Mar 2008, 18:01
The last time Goldsack played on a small forward he got 3 goals kicked against him in a quarter and that was against Stokes from Geelong in the Premlinary Final. That wasn't Goldsack's fault it was the coaching staff which made a miss match and then the next quarter they put Marty Clarke who kept him to zip for the rest of the game. I think Heath Shaw should play on Farmer in Round 1.
The last time Goldsack played on a small forward he got 3 goals kicked against him in the first quarter and that was against Stokes from Geelong in the Premlinary Final. I think Heath Shaw.
and then marty clarke took stokes out of the game and still attcked, agree with the goldy better on leading type forwards.
really depends on how Farmer plays if he plays lead up we can cover him if he stays opportunist style im more worried by him that pavlicha and tarrant
I think Marty Clarke or Goldy.
Harry O-like to see him play on Tarrant like he did to Scott Lucas
Wakes- Pavlich
stifler's mom
8 Mar 2008, 21:06
It can't be Lockyer. He is unable to sit down for weeks after playing on Farmer.
The last time Goldsack played on a small forward he got 3 goals kicked against him in a quarter and that was against Stokes from Geelong in the Premlinary Final. That wasn't Goldsack's fault it was the coaching staff which made a miss match and then the next quarter they put Marty Clarke who kept him to zip for the rest of the game. I think Heath Shaw should play on Farmer in Round 1.
Stokes got 3 pretty lucky and easy goals early. He can certainly play on the smaller players. In Shepparton he played well on Rioli.
CENTERMAN
8 Mar 2008, 21:41
Clarke first.... Isles to survive at collingwood needs to beat these sort of players, maybe he can.
bomberboy11
8 Mar 2008, 22:01
Stokes got 3 pretty lucky and easy goals early. He can certainly play on the smaller players. In Shepparton he played well on Rioli.
higgins killed goldsack last year but tyson has improved, goldsack first on farmer but if he is getting killed you must put h shaw
higgins killed goldsack last year but tyson has improved, goldsack first on farmer but if he is getting killed you must put h shaw
In Goldsack's first game. He has improved a bit since then.
I'd start with Goldsack, we have a few options if need be, but give Tyson first crack.
i had doubts over goldsack in his first game (clearly i judge too quick and should know better) , although i admired his dedication to every contest. one contest ill never forget is the sydney one where he went over the pack to spoil the ball. its what makes him one of my fav players
i think goldsack would be a decent choice for farmer, as ron said hes changed a bit sicne his first game. he has the ability to play his man close no matter if on the lead or a loose ball. but also can run off his guy and can be very damaging.
goldsack first, if that turns pear shaped. can always rely on heath if things are goin bad to be able to keep someone quiet.
im pretty confident though , goldy is the man for the job.
Maxwell would destroy him.
Tarkyn_24
8 Mar 2008, 23:29
Lonie :thumbsu:
Thommo 42
8 Mar 2008, 23:36
put Medders back there to get under his skin
Farmer is unaccountable when his team does not have the ball. Must put a player on him who can damage Freo through the centre of the ground when we are rebounding i.e Clarke, Shaw.
PieLebo87
9 Mar 2008, 01:54
Goldsack if they play a congested forward line and O'Brien if its an open forward line.
I don't think Farmer is our worry. It'll be Heath Shaw's rebound game against Johnson and the shut-down talls on Tarrant and Pav.
vinnie_vegas69
9 Mar 2008, 09:16
Goldsack should get first crack, and if he's getting beaten, trying moving either Heath Shaw or Marty Clarke onto him.
Another thing to consider will be if one of those guys is getting tagged - It might prove sensible to try and break that tag by putting the player on Farmer.
jerry springer
9 Mar 2008, 10:26
Maxwell would be too slow.We need Heaths rebound and drive,we cant have him being wasted playing tight on Farmer.Goldsack is first option as Farmer would be too strong overhead for Marty
Maxwell would destroy him.
Farmer may not be a class human being, but he is a class footballer.
Maxwell is not.
That would be a very bad match up for Collingwood.
Farmer is unaccountable when his team does not have the ball. Must put a player on him who can damage Freo through the centre of the ground when we are rebounding i.e Clarke, Shaw.
With all due respect, I think Farmer is the LEAST unaccountable of our forwards. Every time I watch him play he is chasing down defenders, midfielders, fighting to keep the ball in our forward fifty and putting on heaps of pressure.
Only times I've seen him unaccountable, is when someone has got under his skin and he's given away some cheap free kicks.
Big Bucks
9 Mar 2008, 11:53
Maxwell would destroy him.
Hahahaha i like your dry sense of humour, the only thing destroyed if Maxwell played on Farmer would be Maxwell`s state of mind .
Farmer may not be a class human being, but he is a class footballer.
Maxwell is not.
That would be a very bad match up for Collingwood.
Contrary to popular belief I actually believe Maxwell is easily quick enough. His physical style of play would get under Farmers skin and shut him out of the game.
I know Maxwell is not the most highly skilled player but when he is given a job to do he gets it done. i think the only place Maxwell would be found short would be when he runs off his player to play 3rd man up, farmer seems to pick up a few goals under these situations. i think Maxwell is one of our best shut down players.
Parallel Andy
9 Mar 2008, 14:51
I'd start with one of the kids...
Anthony or Stanley.
skelly12
9 Mar 2008, 15:02
I'd start with one of the kids...
Anthony or Stanley.
and this is why I am glad you are not the collingwood coach.
Farmer is very dangerous, we need to treat him with respect otherwise he will anally rape collingwood fc. Playing a first gamer on him would be stupid
Parallel Andy
9 Mar 2008, 15:10
and this is why I am glad you are not the collingwood coach.
Farmer is very dangerous, we need to treat him with respect otherwise he will anally rape collingwood fc. Playing a first gamer on him would be stupid
Farmer has always done well against us.
Anthony is very promising and is worth a try.
We don't have too many other options.
We don't have a matchup for him amongst the older players, so it would be worth trying a kid on him early in the game.
Do you remember when we played Carlton last year and Fevola was destroying our senior backman?
O'Brien was put on him and shut him down.
Anthony will be a fantastic player and seems to have the mobility and speed over a short distance to stay with Farmer.
Why play a senior defender on him, when that defender could be put to good use against another Freo forward?
Farmer will kick at least 3-4 goals against any of our senior defenders.
I doubt he'd kick many more on Anthony.
sirlothie
9 Mar 2008, 15:23
Farmer is just a slippery little opportunist prick but one thing to be wary of is overrating him and making Clarke or H. Shaw run around in circles chasing after him all day would be a negative move in that that would cut their drive out of the backline continually hounding Farmer.
If I was MM I would just continually flood numbers into the backline to cut off Tarrant's leading space and Farmer's room, if you can do that successfully there will be other blokes around in the vicinity to help out and bodyslam Farmer and if Tarrant can't lead into space he won't get a kick so then you can put anybody who can keep up on them.
Pavlich is my biggest concern, this is where Jimmy C's departure will be felt but we just have to focus as a side on getting numbers back in defence and containing Pavlich, and then hope our midfielders keep it out of that area enough and our forwards can kick a higher score which I am confident they can do if they get equal ball as Cloke, Rocca, Rusling, Didak, Thomas, Medhurst, L. Davis all floating through owns whatever Freo can throw at us so just do the simple things right and defend well and run hard and we should run over the top of them at the 'G.
Just play with confidence and back each other and help out in defence.
robertg22
10 Mar 2008, 00:09
Definitely not Stanley, remember him against Russel Robertson last year.
I would go with Harry or Marty, depends who we want to play on Tarrant.