View Full Version : What is the worst municipal council in Melbourne for VAFA clubs?
Rooster1979
13 Mar 2008, 14:47
With all the talk of drought and ground closures, which local municipal council infuriates you the most?
There are 28 metro councils so I have culled the list down to a top 20 with some combined (max number of poll options)
Would also be great to hear some of your own 'Today Tonight' or 'A Current Affair' style stories of 'Councils gone Crazy' or 'Bureaucracies gone Bonkas'
ultimate hater
13 Mar 2008, 14:51
i heard that beauy had a deal with optus or telstra or something to put mobile phone tower receivers ontop of their lights/clubrooms and were going to get some good $$ for it but the council wanted to take the $$ for themselves and use it for something else other than on the rooms/ground etc etc... not sure how this issue ended up but did know there was a dispute with the council..
i know its council land but i believe the club went to the effort of organising it and it would benefit whoever uses those premises but the council didn't want a bar of it..
Solarium Obsession
13 Mar 2008, 15:08
i heard that beauy had a deal with optus or telstra or something to put mobile phone tower receivers ontop of their lights/clubrooms and were going to get some good $$ for it but the council wanted to take the $$ for themselves and use it for something else other than on the rooms/ground etc etc... not sure how this issue ended up but did know there was a dispute with the council..
i know its council land but i believe the club went to the effort of organising it and it would benefit whoever uses those premises but the council didn't want a bar of it..
They requested permission to have the pole put in and also requested funding from the local council. The council gave them the permit, but refused to bear any cost. Now that a Telstra proposal has been made to the footy club with the potential to earn $500,000 the council want a cut. Very typical.
Terry Australis
14 Mar 2008, 12:18
Someone forgot to put the City of Yarra up there. Their soundtrack should be the Benny Hill theme music...
JG Hornet
14 Mar 2008, 12:39
I can't believe someone had the audacity to usurp Jas Cave's status as the greatest Pollster since Roy Morgan!
Someone forgot to put the City of Yarra up there. Their soundtrack should be the Benny Hill theme music...
Truer words will never be spoken !
bedford
14 Mar 2008, 16:36
Glen Eira are a disgrace,they keep footy off the grounds but let dog walkers do what ever they like.The dogs do more damage to the ovals than any footballers.
Also Glen Eira seem to give soccer more of a go,even keeping Princes Park no4 for South Melbourne junior soccer club,the ground isn't even used in the summer.How does a team from another council get to have exclusive use.This ground could have been used for pre season training.
Also a few clubs are under Parks Vic in Albert Park these guys are something else.
sidewinder
15 Mar 2008, 20:27
Glen Eira are a disgrace,they keep footy off the grounds but let dog walkers do what ever they like.The dogs do more damage to the ovals than any footballers.
Also Glen Eira seem to give soccer more of a go,even keeping Princes Park no4 for South Melbourne junior soccer club,the ground isn't even used in the summer.How does a team from another council get to have exclusive use.This ground could have been used for pre season training.
Also a few clubs are under Parks Vic in Albert Park these guys are something else.
Ormond's ground is in top nick!
Caulfield's is under attack from dog piss because it is an "off-leash" park.
Both grounds within a kilometer of each other.
Taskmaster
17 Mar 2008, 14:24
They are government workers, wat more do I have to say. They are all trained monkeys!!!!! I have more intellegence in my little toe!!
Complete and utter morons. They call there sporting ovals assets. Well if you cant use the asset, then it is worth sh.t all, so its not an asset.
Jascave
20 Mar 2008, 15:23
Bayside Council tried to ban VAFA clubs in the Bayside area from using advertising signs at the grounds that they play on. It was only pressure from outside the council (most notably the Minister for Local Government in the then Bracks Government) forced the Bayside Council to back down, but allow only temporary signs to be used.
Slow Train North
25 Mar 2008, 22:13
Banyule has it for mine. What other council has the audacity (and disrespect for the community and community organisations like footy and cricket clubs) to provide private enterprise personal training bozos and their inflated clients preferential use of grounds over football clubs?
There are at least 3 ammo and 5 nfl clubs who have had access to the grounds they have played on for up to 90 years cut in order to "fit in" the personal training wombats.
Now THAT'S local govenment for ya!
Banyule has it for mine. What other council has the audacity (and disrespect for the community and community organisations like footy and cricket clubs) to provide private enterprise personal training bozos and their inflated clients preferential use of grounds over football clubs?
There are at least 3 ammo and 5 nfl clubs who have had access to the grounds they have played on for up to 90 years cut in order to "fit in" the personal training wombats.
Now THAT'S local govenment for ya!
That sucks.... personal trainers only need a corner of a park, not a whole field surely!
Abba Lonie
26 Mar 2008, 09:05
Ahem, Whitehorse gives ultimate frisbee preference over football.
Flowerpower
26 Mar 2008, 09:18
Ahem, Whitehorse gives ultimate frisbee preference over football.
Last year, BHN has seniors and reserves teams (say 50 blokes), approx 30 club 18 players and approx 20 Supers (over 35's) using one oval, whilst the other oval accomodated 5-10 frisbee throwers.
Now that takes the cake!
Last year, BHN has seniors and reserves teams (say 50 blokes), approx 30 club 18 players and approx 20 Supers (over 35's) using one oval, whilst the other oval accomodated 5-10 frisbee throwers.
Now that takes the cake!
Frisbee throwing tears up the grass like nothing else!
Down at KB we have a problem with rogue SOCCER teams training on our ground without council permission. I went down for a look last wednesday night and there were about 100 kids in boots playing practice matches and generally kicking the sh*t out of the grass. God Darn SOCCER players! How do you kick under 10's off your ground? The councils need to start fining the clubs.
COPP and Parks Victoria have been great this year for the districts. We have only had 3 weeks off our ground in Albert Park this year and return home tonight to share Ajax's ground. SMD Monday and Wednesday, Ajax Tues and Thurs. COPP supplied exclusive use of Julier reserve in Port Melb for our juniors and seniors on Mondays and Wednesdays, even Ben Dixon and his corporate personal training group played ball.
I've been a bad rap for Parks and COPP in the past but this year 2 thumbs up:thumbsu::thumbsu:
Now, can we move that bloody car race?
Abba Lonie
26 Mar 2008, 15:09
How do you kick under 10's off your ground?
Should be pretty easy, they're small so they can't fight back real well.
Should be pretty easy, they're small so they can't fight back real well.
Can always have a crack at the soccer mums... that might send them scattering!
Someone forgot to put the City of Yarra up there. Their soundtrack should be the Benny Hill theme music...
The cake has well and truly been taken today.
1. Last Friday - confirmation of Ramsden St Oval as our venue for this weekend's practice match against St Marys/Salesian. Posts would be in, ground would be marked.
2. Yesterday at 11.25 am - advice from CoY that their "contractors" had decided the surface was getting too dry. They had decided to seed Ramsden St Oval on Thursday, and the posts wouldn't go in, nor would the ground be marked, nor would it be available for the PM on Saturday. NB - it is hosting a 'social cricket' match on the Sunday though.
3. CoY suggested we could move the PM to Sunday at Vic Park - necessitating contact by us with opposition club, VAFA umpires, our umpires, trainers, our players, etc. to advice of late venue and date change.
4. Today at 3.00 pm - advice from CoY that Vic Park was now deemed too wet to have PM played there, and they would have to try to find a ground outside the CoY to accomodate our PM, which now has no venue.
In the words of Basil Fawlty "Excuse me, is this a piece of your brain?" :mad:
The cake has well and truly been taken today.
1. Last Friday - confirmation of Ramsden St Oval as our venue for this weekend's practice match against St Marys/Salesian. Posts would be in, ground would be marked.
2. Yesterday at 11.25 am - advice from CoY that their "contractors" had decided the surface was getting too dry. They had decided to seed Ramsden St Oval on Thursday, and the posts wouldn't go in, nor would the ground be marked, nor would it be available for the PM on Saturday. NB - it is hosting a 'social cricket' match on the Sunday though.
3. CoY suggested we could move the PM to Sunday at Vic Park - necessitating contact by us with opposition club, VAFA umpires, our umpires, trainers, our players, etc. to advice of late venue and date change.
4. Today at 3.00 pm - advice from CoY that Vic Park was now deemed too wet to have PM played there, and they would have to try to find a ground outside the CoY to accomodate our PM, which now has no venue.
In the words of Basil Fawlty "Excuse me, is this a piece of your brain?" :mad:
I just went through the exact same routine with Richmond Central. We were supposed to play at Vic Park on Saturday. Since that phone call the rain has stopped and the sun has been shining...
It's a winter sport FFS ! We get some much needed rain, and now they say it is too wet. The CoY are deadset hopeless.
First they will not allow the Reds to train on Brunswick Street for fear of ripping it up, but all manner of Gaelic Teams, Soccer Teams, Juniors and several corporate cricket games, and pub cricket games are allowed to do what they want, when they want with not so much as a peep from the council.
Ramsden Street Oval, of which Fraser speaks has a massive recycled water tank from which to water the ground. How can the ground be "too dry" ? In the middle of summer, it was lush and green, because they were watering the ground but now it's "too dry". What, there is no more recycled water ? Spare me.
They are a rabble, a complete and utter rabble. They decide to install new cricket nets in summer, and now are looking at starting major work on the grandstand in the middle of winter at Brunswick Street. When looking at alternate arrangements for change facilities, the comment of year so far comes from a person there who wanted to know the best size of a portable changeroom for 15 people, because "that's how many are on an Aussie Rulles side, right" !
Un-Real !
It's a winter sport FFS ! We get some much needed rain, and now they say it is too wet. The CoY are deadset hopeless.
First they will not allow the Reds to train on Brunswick Street for fear of ripping it up, but all manner of Gaelic Teams, Soccer Teams, Juniors and several corporate cricket games, and pub cricket games are allowed to do what they want, when they want with not so much as a peep from the council.
Ramsden Street Oval, of which Fraser speaks has a massive recycled water tank from which to water the ground. How can the ground be "too dry" ? In the middle of summer, it was lush and green, because they were watering the ground but now it's "too dry". What, there is no more recycled water ? Spare me.
They are a rabble, a complete and utter rabble. They decide to install new cricket nets in summer, and now are looking at starting major work on the grandstand in the middle of winter at Brunswick Street. When looking at alternate arrangements for change facilities, the comment of year so far comes from a person there who wanted to know the best size of a portable changeroom for 15 people, because "that's how many are on an Aussie Rulles side, right" !
Un-Real !
Fella's, crap situation and it sounds like you're dealing with complete muppets but haven't the lads fron St mary's been spouting all summer about how good Ferndale Park is. :confused:
Vic Park on a muddy day is no fun though guys, I played little league game (in a Fitzroy jumper!) at some point in the 80's on wet track against those rotten magpies and it was like playing in sewage. There is something really dodgy in the dirt there boys...sorry, must stop writing now before I receive another red card for speaking my mind about the Pies!
St Marys / Salesian got the nod from Booroondara Council last night to use Ferndale this Saturday to host the Reds.
City of Booroondara and St Marys/Salesian :thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu:
City of Yarra :thumbsd::thumbsd::thumbsd:
Griff19
28 Mar 2008, 09:34
[quote=harper;10456361]Fella's, crap situation and it sounds like you're dealing with complete muppets but haven't the lads fron St mary's been spouting all summer about how good Ferndale Park is. :confused:
Small but green and lush Harper..
Makes me want to dust of the boots...
[quote=harper;10456361]Fella's, crap situation and it sounds like you're dealing with complete muppets but haven't the lads fron St mary's been spouting all summer about how good Ferndale Park is. :confused:
Small but green and lush Harper..
Makes me want to dust of the boots...
Great to hear you guys still have your game tomorrow, I suggest long stops Griff
Griff19
28 Mar 2008, 09:57
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Great to hear you guys still have your game tomorrow, I suggest long stops Griff
With about 10 on the bench in the two's and 8 in the one's, i think ill sit this one out!!!!
We've got the standard 4 on the pine in the seniors (probably pinch a couple from the 2nds at half time), and 12 on the reserves bench. Griff19 - you guys had better set up the revolving door at the interchange gates!!!
18 blokes unavailable, which means we're praying for a Clubbies opponent next week (possibly Bull-Temp) so Granty's guys can get a run together before round 1.
Last year, BHN has seniors and reserves teams (say 50 blokes), approx 30 club 18 players and approx 20 Supers (over 35's) using one oval, whilst the other oval accomodated 5-10 frisbee throwers.
Now that takes the cake!
That's been going on for far too long... common sense will seemingly not prevail.
On the positive side for Whitehorse is their recent expenditure on clubrooms at Whitehorse Reserve for the collective use of East BHCC , BHCC and Eley Park FC. Sensational change rooms, great showers, toilets, First Aid Room, Umpires Room is lush, and a good sized canteen for game day.
It's a very good facility.
...but it cost the tax payers more than $600, 000 and I doubt there's $90, 000 worth of material there.
Oh, and the changerooms are also the social rooms as Whitehorse "does not provide social amenities to sporting clubs" (where do you think we gain our revenue, Whitehorse?).
Sensational intentions. Very appreciative. Wasteful execution. :rolleyes:
We've got the standard 4 on the pine in the seniors (probably pinch a couple from the 2nds at half time), and 12 on the reserves bench. Griff19 - you guys had better set up the revolving door at the interchange gates!!!
18 blokes unavailable, which means we're praying for a Clubbies opponent next week (possibly Bull-Temp) so Granty's guys can get a run together before round 1.
Do you guys have a ground Frase? I have Whitefriars lined up this week for us (Carey), but haven't confirmed a ground yet, so may need a fall back!
Peter,
We're planning on having 3 games at Ramsden St being Clubbies at 10, Reserves and 12, and Seniors at 2.
Prior to last week's debacle, I'd have been very confident of the above proceeding without incident. Now, I'm not so sure.....
I'll check with our Clubbies coach tonight about the likelihood of B-T getting their squad together. If your ground situation worsens, and B-T can't get enough guys to play, we may be able to host you guys instead.
Frase
Peter,
We're planning on having 3 games at Ramsden St being Clubbies at 10, Reserves and 12, and Seniors at 2.
Prior to last week's debacle, I'd have been very confident of the above proceeding without incident. Now, I'm not so sure.....
I'll check with our Clubbies coach tonight about the likelihood of B-T getting their squad together. If your ground situation worsens, and B-T can't get enough guys to play, we may be able to host you guys instead.
Frase
Frase,
With this plan in place can I assume we will have access to the away rooms from the start of the third quarter in the clubbie's? If so what length of quarters will the clubbie's be playing.