Carlton to be #1 in VIC within a couple of years

[Peacock]

Collingwood:

McGuire/Malthouse is now a boring, tired and stale combination.
Lack of high profile players, together with a few years of fringe 8 performances will be nothing to get excited about.
Already selling off some of their pubs due to interest rate rises.
Overrated bunch of youngsters that they are deluded about "We wouldn't trade Thomas for Judd!"Essendon:

Bit of excitement with the appointment of a new coach which won't last when the results don't follow.
Fletcher, Lucas, Lloyd will be retiring in a couple of seasons.
Overrated group of youngsters.
Club will continue to stagnate.Carlton:

New administration and board.
Another record membership this year which will break 40,000.
Young coach that the media love and always want to speak with.
In terms of young talent have the cream of the crop.
Have the best midfielder in history which is a marketers dream.
Unstoppable momentum.

[gangsta deluxe]

Collingwood:

McGuire/Malthouse is now a boring, tired and stale combination.
Lack of high profile players, together with a few years of fringe 8 performances will be nothing to get excited about.
Already selling off some of their pubs due to interest rate rises.
Overrated bunch of youngsters that they are deluded about "We wouldn't trade Thomas for Judd!"Essendon:

Bit of excitement with the appointment of a new coach which won't last when the results don't follow.
Fletcher, Lucas, Lloyd will be retiring in a couple of seasons.
Overrated group of youngsters.
Club will continue to stagnate.Carlton:

New administration and board.
Another record membership this year which will break 40,000.
Young coach that the media love and always want to speak with.
In terms of young talent have the cream of the crop.
Have the best midfielder in history which is a marketers dream.
Unstoppable momentum.

Peacock:

Forgot most of the Melbourne clubs
Shouldnt troll Essendon and Collingwood on the main board - it is meant for serious discussion

[tazhawk]

I always thought Peacock's were dumb.

[Nardz]

Collingwood:
McGuire/Malthouse is now a boring, tired and stale combination.
Lack of high profile players, together with a few years of fringe 8 performances will be nothing to get excited about.
Prelim final is pretty close to be something to get excited about, and the fact that we made it that far without high profile players is a statement in itself.


Already selling off some of their pubs due to interest rate rises.
Overrated bunch of youngsters that they are deluded about "We wouldn't trade Thomas for Judd!
as opposed to carltons great collection of youngsters :rolleyes:

Carlton:
New administration and board.
Another record membership this year which will break 40,000.
been there. done that.

Young coach that the media love and always want to speak with.
has he coached any wins yet?

In terms of young talent have the cream of the crop.
take out a couple of your number 1 picks and u have a very ordinary bunch.

Have the best midfielder in history which is a marketers dream.
in HISTORY? :o

Unstoppable momentum.
oh yeah. finished 15th last year, didnt win a game the final couple of months of the season. Wish we had that momentum

i know this is just a troll. but i enjoyed debunking it too much :)

[Hoggy]

Vvvvv

[beautime]

Here's why they won't...


They have no backline.
Have drafted just midfielders and a ruck with three number 1 pick.... did not invest in a fb or chb. Shocking.
Spending too much on and injured judd. At the moment he is no longer the best.
Teams like Hawks have plentiful of k.p.p, which has set them up.
Fevola is getting older.
Have too much pressure on their midfielder for the high draft place. Dont have the right types of midfielders that other teams have.
Their president is involved in price fixing
they have a Losing culture

[wotdoiput]

.
Carlton:

New administration and board.
Another record membership this year which will break 40,000.
Young coach that the media love and always want to speak with.
In terms of young talent have the cream of the crop.
Have the best midfielder in history which is a marketers dream.
Unstoppable momentum.

Momentum from what? Losing?? Yeah Im sure that will turn the club around real quick.

[Peacock]

By #1 I mean biggest club - for those too stupid to realise.

I don't think you want me going through the remaining VIC clubs, that could get very ugly indeed.

[PUSSIES_07_FLAG]

Carlton:
Unstoppable momentum.

You kind of ruined your entire post with this one line.

[Nardz]

You kind of ruined your entire post with this one line.

lol i'd love to know how he justifies that statement.

can the standards cliche's about how hard the team trained during the pre-season possibly be mistaken for 'momentum', even by the blindest of supporters?

[hellfire]

Collingwood:

McGuire/Malthouse is now a boring, tired and stale combination.
Lack of high profile players, together with a few years of fringe 8 performances will be nothing to get excited about.
Already selling off some of their pubs due to interest rate rises.
Overrated bunch of youngsters that they are deluded about "We wouldn't trade Thomas for Judd!"Essendon:

Bit of excitement with the appointment of a new coach which won't last when the results don't follow.
Fletcher, Lucas, Lloyd will be retiring in a couple of seasons.
Overrated group of youngsters.
Club will continue to stagnate.Carlton:

New administration and board.
Another record membership this year which will break 40,000.
Young coach that the media love and always want to speak with.
In terms of young talent have the cream of the crop.
Have the best midfielder in history which is a marketers dream.
Unstoppable momentum.

I LOL'd.

[Bring-Back-Powell]

13's that way -------------------->

[sirlothie]

Collingwood:

McGuire/Malthouse is now a boring, tired and stale combination.
Lack of high profile players, together with a few years of fringe 8 performances will be nothing to get excited about.
Already selling off some of their pubs due to interest rate rises.
Overrated bunch of youngsters that they are deluded about "We wouldn't trade Thomas for Judd!"Essendon:

Bit of excitement with the appointment of a new coach which won't last when the results don't follow.
Fletcher, Lucas, Lloyd will be retiring in a couple of seasons.
Overrated group of youngsters.
Club will continue to stagnate.Carlton:

New administration and board.
Another record membership this year which will break 40,000.
Young coach that the media love and always want to speak with.
In terms of young talent have the cream of the crop.
Have the best midfielder in history which is a marketers dream.
Unstoppable momentum.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA... thanks you just made my morning. :D:thumbsu:

Classic work there mate, "unstoppable momentum", LMAO, yeah 26 wins in the past 5 years, President done price-fixing, club accused of tanking by an insider, full-forward blind drunk pissing on bar window 5 days out from your first game, your really on a roll!!! :thumbsu:

Best midfielder in HISTORY, zomg, RLY? HAHAHAHA I think there is an entire Hall of Fame who will have something to say about that, I'm not even going to start.

Cream of the crop in young talent, yeah obviously, 26 wins/5 years, seriously took the competition by storm, yeah? Bwahahaha!!!

The media love Brett Ratten? What makes you figure, media just goes where the news are you fool and Carlton is the first place to knock if you want to see a crumbling rabble of a football club! ;)


Collingwood is going to continue turkey slapping Carlton in every aspect, both on-field and off, for the next 5 years at least just like the last 5 years, you blinkered mong, if you can't see that you need to take a little rest for a while... But nonetheless, nice work dipshit. :):thumbsu:

[Zeke]

Parrot grew some tail feathers?

[ManWithNoName]

Worst troll ever.

[NGHAWK]

bawahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ha!!!!!!!

I guess you haven't got the slightest idea of Hawthornfc's facts and figures then!

bawahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ha!!!!!!!

[JeffDunne]

By #1 I mean biggest club
And? What do you mean by 'biggest'? :confused:

Most supporters?

[Hirdy!!]

Judd to Fevola to Murphy back to Fevolaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!

[NGHAWK]

Carlton:

New administration and board.
Another record membership this year which will break 40,000.
Young coach that the media love and always want to speak with.
In terms of young talent have the cream of the crop.
Have the best midfielder in history which is a marketers dream.
Unstoppable momentum.



Bawahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahohmygodi'mfukingcryinglmfaohahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

[Peacock]

bawahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ha!!!!!!!

I guess you haven't got the slightest idea of Hawthornfc's facts and figures then!

bawahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ha!!!!!!!




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAWTHORN

That is all I will say on the matter.

[lamaros]

Is it trolling or subtle satire?

It's hard to tell, especially with that "unstoppable momentum" bit.

[Papa G]

The biggest teams in Victoria over the next few years will be Geelong, Hawthorn and St Kilda, because lets face it, they are the only ones capable of winning the flag in that time - which is all that really matters.

[NGHAWK]

BWAHAHAHAHAHA... thanks you just made my morning. :D:thumbsu:

Classic work there mate, "unstoppable momentum", LMAO, yeah 26 wins in the past 5 years, President done price-fixing, club accused of tanking by an insider, full-forward blind drunk pissing on bar window 5 days out from your first game, your really on a roll!!! :thumbsu:

Best midfielder in HISTORY, zomg, RLY? HAHAHAHA I think there is an entire Hall of Fame who will have something to say about that, I'm not even going to start.

Cream of the crop in young talent, yeah obviously, 26 wins/5 years, seriously took the competition by storm, yeah? Bwahahaha!!!

The media love Brett Ratten? What makes you figure, media just goes where the news are you fool and Carlton is the first place to knock if you want to see a crumbling rabble of a football club! ;)


Collingwood is going to continue turkey slapping Carlton in every aspect, both on-field and off, for the next 5 years at least just like the last 5 years, you blinkered mong, if you can't see that you need to take a little rest for a while... But nonetheless, nice work dipshit. :):thumbsu:


well said:thumbsu:
I'm still lmfao.

[thewest]

you guys are all wrong...WCE is the biggest team in Victoria and will be for the next 5 years.......











.......if peacock gets to write nonsense then so do i

[NGHAWK]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAWTHORN

That is all I will say on the matter.




Baaaaaaaaaawaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahohmygodican'tbreathehahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahah
You've got no idea have you, poor peasizedcock!

Hawthorn's light years ahead of Cartank.
Come back when you can beat us by even 1 point unlike our last outing when you lost by 100!

bawahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[hellfire]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAWTHORN

That is all I will say on the matter.

You're laughing at a club with better young talent than you... a team that just played finals and will be for years to come... Ehhh I'm not even gonna bother.

[Jem]

Weren't Carlton fans saying this a couple of years back?

[damage_inc07]

I am sure he means "biggest" in terms of memberships, sponserships, and revenue. In which case who knows, he may very well be once we start rising. We are doing pretty well thus far for a team that has had no success for a while now, and I think what he's saying is that once on-field success comes, a lot more people will jump on board.

As for our on-field success, in a couple of years I think we will be making up the 8, however as will Collingwood and Essendon I believe, and as they are both seemingly ahead of us atm, lets wait until then before we start saying we're better.

[JeffDunne]

I am sure he means "biggest" in terms of memberships, sponserships, and revenue. In which case who knows, he may very well be once we start rising. We are doing pretty well thus far for a team that has had no success for a while now, and I think what he's saying is that once on-field success comes, a lot more people will jump on board.


So we're saying Carlton are the biggest bandwagon in football?

I thought that's what he was saying. :thumbsu:

[blues_gibbo6]

i think alot of people dont realize the confidence issues carlton players have. alot of the young players haven been in many winning games, and yet they seem to still do alright in comparison to the likes of thomas and pendlebury and selwood and priddis who come into winning sides and dominate. I think judd might be the difference in winning a couple of games for us, but the confidence he will bring to the young guys in the team will be the big improvement, not necessarily this year but the years to come. Although i dont agree with the number 1 vic team tag. I think lately we've started to see the process turn around and teams such as geelong and sydney breaking premiership droughts, i think this trend might continue. St kilda still have that window, alot of talent thats never been truely reached. Bulldogs the last couple of years have been there abouts near top 8, hawthorn are an excitement machine, richmond and essedon both have young talent, and melbourne always seem to jump up the ladder every few years with what i think is ordinary lists. I think carlton may become and force again and not the AFL easy 4 points round, but to say we will be #1 is a big tag to put on a fairly inexperienced side

[Hirdy!!]

Fevolaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!

[LeisureSuitLori]

Collingwood:

McGuire/Malthouse is now a boring, tired and stale combination.
Lack of high profile players, together with a few years of fringe 8 performances will be nothing to get excited about.
Already selling off some of their pubs due to interest rate rises.
Overrated bunch of youngsters that they are deluded about "We wouldn't trade Thomas for Judd!"Essendon:

Bit of excitement with the appointment of a new coach which won't last when the results don't follow.
Fletcher, Lucas, Lloyd will be retiring in a couple of seasons.
Overrated group of youngsters.
Club will continue to stagnate.Carlton:

New administration and board.
Another record membership this year which will break 40,000.
Young coach that the media love and always want to speak with.
In terms of young talent have the cream of the crop.
Have the best midfielder in history which is a marketers dream.
Unstoppable momentum.

I'm deluded!!!??? Oh dear.
Can a sensible Carlton supporter set this bloke straight or feed him his medication. Surely the walls in your house are padded.

Worst thread ever. :thumbsu:

[Palmer Stoat]

Unstoppable momentum.

This makes it an early contender for post of the year.

[gangsta deluxe]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAWTHORN

That is all I will say on the matter.

They are doing a damn side better than Carlton both on and off the field. 95% of the footballing public will agree with this statement.

All I can say is HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA Carlton! JOKE OF THE AFL FOR THE PAST 6 YEARS

[Atomboy]

This makes it an early contender for post of the year.

Heh heh, I am still chuckling over this statement and have to agree.

"Who can possibly stand in the way of the juggernaught that is Carlton FC; the most unsuccesful team in the history of professional football ??."

[FordGTHO]

They are doing a damn side better than Carlton both on and off the field. 95% of the footballing public will agree with this statement.

All I can say is HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA Carlton! JOKE OF THE AFL FOR THE PAST 6 YEARS
A damn side better ??? :confused:


Worst thread ever, the blues have a ways to go yet before they are even a threat to the power teams like Geelong and St' Kilda, The Hawks are 3 years ahead of them in terms of young player development.
But they are in front of Richmond, and look a lot better long term prospect than Melbourne or the dogs .

[beautime]

They are doing a damn side better than Carlton both on and off the field. 95% of the footballing public will agree with this statement.

All I can say is HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA Carlton! JOKE OF THE AFL FOR THE PAST 6 YEARS

really?

But Hawthorn are alot better on the field

[sirlothie]

The biggest teams in Victoria over the next few years will be Geelong, Hawthorn and St Kilda, because lets face it, they are the only ones capable of winning the flag in that time - which is all that really matters.

If you think Hawthorn and St Kilda can win, surely Collingwood can win.

[FordGTHO]

If you think Hawthorn and St Kilda can win, surely Collingwood can win.No chance. midfield is pretty ordinary, defence is weak, poor ruck, and average forward line. Hawks and Saints have all those bases pretty much covered, except for the Hawks backline which is not much chop.

[NGHAWK]

really?

But Hawthorn are alot better on the field


In terms of assets, Hawthorn is the richest Victorian club.
Not to mention one of the biggest sponsorship deals in the league.
We even hame more members than carlton to date, we're over 31k, 9k up from same time last year.

[NGHAWK]

No chance. midfield is pretty ordinary, defence is weak, poor ruck, and average forward line. Hawks and Saints have all those bases pretty much covered, except for the Hawks backline which is not much chop.


As much as Hawthorn's backline is seriously under-rated,
who needs one when you have the best mid-field in the comp!

[doodlefeatures]

In terms of assets, Hawthorn is the richest Victorian club.


Are you sure about that?

[Hawkk]

really?

But Hawthorn are alot better on the field

Essendon, Collingwood and the Hawks are the only sides in Vic that have +10 m in net assets, Geelong is 4th with around 7m.

FWIW Carlton is in the negatives...if the creditors came knocking, Carlton would probably get rolled up.

The Blues are a basketcase

[smasha]

This makes it an early contender for post of the year.


I second that.

What a load of rubbish.:p

Peacock and parrot-2 feathered fools.

[doodlefeatures]

I'd rather my club stayed around 4-5 on this mythical list of 'big' Melbourne clubs but won a flag or two and played finals than be considered #1 while hanging around the foot of the ladder.

[NGHAWK]

Are you sure about that?


Guaranteed, it's common knowledge to BF posters when the stats come out last year.

[sirlothie]

No chance. midfield is pretty ordinary, defence is weak, poor ruck, and average forward line. Hawks and Saints have all those bases pretty much covered, except for the Hawks backline which is not much chop.

Pretty big talk from a club who didn't make the 8 talking to one who lost to the Premiers by less than a kick in the Prelim mate...

Oh but wait, you won the NAB Cup right? :rolleyes:

Average forward line?

HF: Didak T. Cloke Thomas
F: Medhurst Rocca L. Davis

Mate, that creams on every other forward line in the league except maybe Geelong's.

Name a better group of 5 players who are as young and as accomplished as these guys:

Pendlebury, Cloke, Thomas, Clarke, H. Shaw.

Can't?

Don't worry, it's just how we like it, they said the same last year, some even had us for the spoon and look what happened. ;)

[LeisureSuitLori]

No chance. midfield is pretty ordinary, defence is weak, poor ruck, and average forward line. Hawks and Saints have all those bases pretty much covered, except for the Hawks backline which is not much chop.

Do you watch any other sides outside of your own?
Poor statement.

[Makka]

Hopefully the Tigers knocking the Blues off tonight will put an end to all this Carlton crap!

[Love4Buddy]

Average forward line?

HF: Didak T. Cloke Thomas
F: Medhurst Rocca L. Davis

Mate, that creams on every other forward line in the league except maybe Geelong's.



Hawks forward line kills that

[fishguts]

Collingwood:
McGuire/Malthouse is now a boring, tired and stale combination Yet still doing whats required..
Already selling off some of their pubs due to interest rate rises, However they still own channel 9.
Underatted bunch of youngstersEssendon:
Bit of excitement with the appointment of a new coach which so far he is doing agreat job.
Fletcher, Lucas, Lloyd will be retiring in a couple of seasons But are currently still playing so they'll still be good.
Underatted group of youngsters.
Club will continue to rise.Carlton:
New and more criminal administration and board to help bring back the old Carlton culture.
Another record membership this year which will break 40,000, if our current members sign up there neighbours pets
Young coach that the media love and always want to speak with when there having a bad day. Our coaches performances are always good for a laugh
In terms of young talent have the cream of the crop. Unless you have a look at the other 15 teams and then maybe we don't
Have the best midfielder in history which is a marketers dream. Oh wait sorry, I forgot to tell you I was just doing my dream team, Im infact not referring to Carlton as you could obviously tell
Unstoppable momentum, from a tanking perspective.

Better

[thatday]

No chance. midfield is pretty ordinary, defence is weak, poor ruck, and average forward line. Hawks and Saints have all those bases pretty much covered, except for the Hawks backline which is not much chop.

:o
You just shouldn't post on topics you really couldnt know less about should you? you are just embarrassing yourself. Go watch a couple of Collingwood games before telling us whats wrong with our team, because from this statement i'll assume the last time you watched Collingwod play a game of AFL football was in 2005. Either that or your just not very bright.:)

[sirlothie]

Hawks forward line kills that

Not in my opinion.

Cloke is the figure head of our forward line, Franklin is yours, I'll give you the nod in that one but it's pretty close and both are young stars of the competition.

But where Collingwood overcomes your forward line is we have A-grade class crumbers and goalsneaks around our tall forwards, Didak, Thomas, Medhurst, L. Davis are all super-dangerous around goal and Hawthorn as nowhere near that much class in smaller forwards.

Collingwood is closer to Hawthorn in tall forwards than Hawthorn is close to Collingwood in small forwards so we got you covered. ;):thumbsu:

[Ealesy]

But where Collingwood overcomes your forward line is we have A-grade class crumbers and goalsneaks around our tall forwards, Didak, Thomas, Medhurst, L. Davis are all super-dangerous around goal and Hawthorn as nowhere near that much class in smaller forwards.

Not so true. What you seem to be forgetting is Mark Williams. Just because he is not a crumbing forward, doesn't mean he isn't a small forward. He is a small lead up forward, who kicked 60 goals playing that role in 2006 before he did his knee last year.

I also think it would be very foolish to write of Cyril Rioli having an impact this year, just because it is his first season. He showed enough in the pre-season to suggest that he will be very comfortable at AFL level this year.

Medhurst, Davis and Thomas are all very hot and cold and while their best is extremely good, their bad is very bad. Haven't the Collingwood supporters being telling us all year as well that Didak is going to be moving into the midfield this year and will give you an even stronger midfield. Can't have it both ways.

Like you admitted, Franklin has the edge over Cloke, for mine Roughhead is already the equal of Rocca and is far fitter. They have a very handy third tall forward in Boyle, and extremely talented small lead up forward in Mark Williams who is capable of kicking 50+ goals a season, a very promising and talented small crumbing forward in Cyril Rioli.

So I would say that while overall Collingwood's forward line is more even and slightly better performed to date, Hawthorn's forward line on raw talent is superior in my opinion.

But to bring it back on topic, they both shit all over Carlton, just like these two teams shit all over Carlton and will continue to for a number of years.

[Hinesight]

Carlton:
New administration and board.
Another record membership this year which will break 40,000.
Young coach that the media love and always want to speak with.
In terms of young talent have the cream of the crop.
Have the best midfielder in history which is a marketers dream.
Unstoppable momentum.
Aaaaaaaahahahhahaha... oh stop.. I'll crack a rib :p

[Anthony_]

Ahh and in comes the Main Board shite

[sirlothie]

Not so true. What you seem to be forgetting is Mark Williams. Just because he is not a crumbing forward, doesn't mean he isn't a small forward. He is a small lead up forward, who kicked 60 goals playing that role in 2006 before he did his knee last year.

I also think it would be very foolish to write of Cyril Rioli having an impact this year, just because it is his first season. He showed enough in the pre-season to suggest that he will be very comfortable at AFL level this year.

Medhurst, Davis and Thomas are all very hot and cold and while their best is extremely good, their bad is very bad. Haven't the Collingwood supporters being telling us all year as well that Didak is going to be moving into the midfield this year and will give you an even stronger midfield. Can't have it both ways.

Like you admitted, Franklin has the edge over Cloke, for mine Roughhead is already the equal of Rocca and is far fitter. They have a very handy third tall forward in Boyle, and extremely talented small lead up forward in Mark Williams who is capable of kicking 50+ goals a season, a very promising and talented small crumbing forward in Cyril Rioli.

So I would say that while overall Collingwood's forward line is more even and slightly better performed to date, Hawthorn's forward line on raw talent is superior in my opinion.

But to bring it back on topic, they both shit all over Carlton, just like these two teams shit all over Carlton and will continue to for a number of years.

Yeah good points, concur on all of it except that Davis, Thomas, Medhurst off days are very bad, they all good players and all always offer something, they are never atrocious.

Like all goalsneaks they have hot and cold days but they are good defensively and usually find a goal or two each even if they are down.

I'm not completely convinced on Mark Williams, I would be if he kicked 60 again, it would be impressive beside Franklin, and I don't think Roughead has the presence of Rocca just yet but is talented.

Collingwood have Reid and Rusling in the wings, pretty good talents, Rioli is proming but 0 games but I do agree Hawthorn has an exciting if not proven potential forward line set up.

Franklin is the only one who has announced himself and their forward line isn't settled down yet but if they get it right they will do well. :thumbsu:

And yes, both forward lines and teams for that matter shit on Carlton's. :D

Hopefully you guys and the Tigers and Demons knock those chumps back to where they belong this year, I have a tip you will see this year.

Chris Judd's stocks are falling way down this year after a year with the Blues everybody is going to see that he cannot do it by himself, therefore he is not as great as a lot of people think he is, and he'll just be another frustrating mug to Carlton supporters, not 'The Messiah' he is now. :cool:

[Man City Blues!]

I always thought Peacock's were dumb.


Great name Tazhawk. Really fitting :thumbsu:

[sunnyTEE]

Not so true. What you seem to be forgetting is Mark Williams. Just because he is not a crumbing forward, doesn't mean he isn't a small forward. He is a small lead up forward, who kicked 60 goals playing that role in 2006 before he did his knee last year.

I also think it would be very foolish to write of Cyril Rioli having an impact this year, just because it is his first season. He showed enough in the pre-season to suggest that he will be very comfortable at AFL level this year.

Medhurst, Davis and Thomas are all very hot and cold and while their best is extremely good, their bad is very bad. Haven't the Collingwood supporters being telling us all year as well that Didak is going to be moving into the midfield this year and will give you an even stronger midfield. Can't have it both ways.

Like you admitted, Franklin has the edge over Cloke, for mine Roughhead is already the equal of Rocca and is far fitter. They have a very handy third tall forward in Boyle, and extremely talented small lead up forward in Mark Williams who is capable of kicking 50+ goals a season, a very promising and talented small crumbing forward in Cyril Rioli.

So I would say that while overall Collingwood's forward line is more even and slightly better performed to date, Hawthorn's forward line on raw talent is superior in my opinion.

But to bring it back on topic, they both shit all over Carlton, just like these two teams shit all over Carlton and will continue to for a number of years.

Closet Hawthorn supporter ;)

[Ealesy]

Closet Hawthorn supporter ;)

I felt very, very, very dirty as an Essendon supporter, writing something so complimentary of Hawthorn.

[Bigs]

Good to see 0% performing when it matters...

[Lupton Warchild Pittman]

Carlton will never be number 1 in VIC again, bookmark it. They are the St. Kilda of this century.

[Hinesight]

New administration and board.
Another record membership this year which will break 40,000.
Young coach that the media love and always want to speak with.
In terms of young talent have the cream of the crop.
Have the best midfielder in history which is a marketers dream.
Unstoppable momentum.
Aaaaaaaaaaaahahahahhahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[gangsta deluxe]

Judd took maybe a goal off the final margin for the Tiges. That game just goes to show, Carlton have the worst defence in the AFL by a country mile

Nice one Peacock:rolleyes:

[NGHAWK]

this day just keeps getting better and better...
bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahoh...oh....oh...hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!

Yeah, No1 laughing stock of Victoria!
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaha!

Unstopable momentum.......down the ladder!
Aaaaaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Guess who's wishing they chose Richmond instead!
ahahahahahahahahahaohmygodhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

[shoe]

This thread is satire at it's finest after tonight's game.

God speed, deluded Carlton supporters.

[Rave Slave]

1 + 15 = 16 not 1

[mellowyellow]

[
New administration and board.
Another record membership this year which will break 40,000.
Young coach that the media love and always want to speak with.
In terms of young talent have the cream of the crop.
Have the best midfielder in history which is a marketers dream.
Unstoppable momentum.[/LIST]

choo choo.......http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/06/18/business/19thomas-600.jpg

[Pie eyed]

User name change required.......suggestions-
Feather duster
or just drop the pea....

Yes you are right Carlton have already made to #1....joke that is.

[Forrest Gimp]

choo choo.......http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/06/18/business/19thomas-600.jpg


:thumbsu::thumbsu: Great picture!!

[Stronzo]

Carlton:

New administration and board.
Another record membership this year which will break 40,000.
Young coach that the media love and always want to speak with.
In terms of young talent have the cream of the crop.
Have the best midfielder in history which is a marketers dream.
Unstoppable momentum.
I'm sure they'll be wanting to talk to him plenty this year...

[Rockford]

I think the thread should be retitled: Carlton to get the #1 pick for the next couple of years.

[NGHAWK]

choo choo.......http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/06/18/business/19thomas-600.jpg


LOL classic!
You know what makes that picture so perfect for this thread?....
The big #1 on the side! LMFAO

[hellfire]

Oh that is too funny. Absolute gold.

[David3030]

Has anyone else noticed the dearth of Carltank supporters on here today ... cannot think why .... hmmmmm:cool: