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blue_boys
21 Mar 2008, 23:47
Not sure if this has been brought up before... but I haven't seen him play a game where he has more decent kicks then clangers.
I know he is only young but there looks like there is something fundamentally wrong with his game that when ever he gets the ball he seems to freeze and not know what to do with it and then rushes and turns it over. And i can understand if he did this occasionally as he is only young but its all the time and he was a top 20 pick in the draft.
It looks like he is a decent kick when he was plenty of time but do you guys think he is ready for the intensity of the real stuff.
I hope he can make it at the highest level as he is a good size for defensive runner and ball carrier as well as doing a defensive job on a medium forward.
Whats everyone else's thoughts?
Jarrod Waiteee
21 Mar 2008, 23:58
Hasnt had enough games to prove how good he will be,wait till the end of the yr before considering judging him.
thylacine60
22 Mar 2008, 00:17
Once he gets the wobbles out of his game he will be fine. Has a seriously good left foot.
THE AISSASSIN
22 Mar 2008, 00:59
Once he gets the wobbles out of his game he will be fine. Has a seriously good left foot.
Agree.....all his clangers have happenned when they have managed to lay a hand on him as he is kicking.
Just finding the pace of the game.....needs to put the accelerator down an little earlier thats all.
When not being tackled he uses it really well
bluegal1983
22 Mar 2008, 09:16
I think Grigg will be all the more better after a few games with the Ants.
Bomba Sheldon
22 Mar 2008, 09:22
Grigg will be fine, his kicking whilst can be wayward at times it is still fairly good. He played more as HFF / on-baller at TAC Cup level, he will learn more in defence where he doesnt have to find the ball if he wa splaying as a HFF / on-baller.
Playing down back with flooding tactics being employed by most clubs backmen can chalk up stats a lot easier. This can benefit him in teh short term whilst he is still cutting his teeth at this level.
Murph_The_Smurf
22 Mar 2008, 09:34
grigga will be much better with hes disposal if he didnt panic with the ball... just young and inexperienced will get much better with confidence on the field... i did happen to notice bower seems to really hold the ball up when he has it ... has never got it away quick enough for my liking gives the opposition way to much time to get around to there men ......
Mr.Kennedy
22 Mar 2008, 09:45
The more games he plays the faster he will overcome this
Too me it looks more like he is still struggling to adapt to the pace of the game. Once he has done this, he'll be a pretty good darn player for the Carlton Footy Club.
Wonder if most of his disposal problems are due to not being confident enough to kick on his right foot. Get really frustrated to see modern players who are not proficient on both sides of their body.
TheGeneral
23 Mar 2008, 18:15
I'd like to see him move to the wing and told to take them on.
I'm sick of seeing wingman and midfielders being developed by being played as defenders.
He showed good acceleration when he took off from the wing on Thursday night, but he kicked poorly when he didn't have many options up forward.
He also needs to harden the **** up!
thylacine60
23 Mar 2008, 18:20
I'd like to see him move to the wing and told to take them on.
I'm sick of seeing wingman and midfielders being developed by being played as defenders.
He showed good acceleration when he took off from the wing on Thursday night, but he kicked poorly when he didn't have many options up forward.
He also needs to harden the **** up!
No question.
I'd like to see him move to the wing and told to take them on.
I'm sick of seeing wingman and midfielders being developed by being played as defenders.
He showed good acceleration when he took off from the wing on Thursday night, but he kicked poorly when he didn't have many options up forward.
He also needs to harden the **** up!I agree with this. To me Grigg looks uninterested.
blues4flag
23 Mar 2008, 18:39
I'd like to see him move to the wing and told to take them on.
I'm sick of seeing wingman and midfielders being developed by being played as defenders.
He showed good acceleration when he took off from the wing on Thursday night, but he kicked poorly when he didn't have many options up forward.
He also needs to harden the **** up!
Definitely. At the moment, he shouldn't be in the 22 - I think both Armfield and Pfeiffer would do better in that small/medium defensive role, and both attack the ball very well, whereas Grigg looks very tentative. Let him develop in the 2's - he is only just coming into his second year and clearly isn't ready yet.
bluegal1983
23 Mar 2008, 19:00
Definitely. At the moment, he shouldn't be in the 22 - I think both Armfield and Pfeiffer would do better in that small/medium defensive role, and both attack the ball very well, whereas Grigg looks very tentative. Let him develop in the 2's - he is only just coming into his second year and clearly isn't ready yet.
Agreed :thumbsu:
I'd like to see him move to the wing and told to take them on.
I'm sick of seeing wingman and midfielders being developed by being played as defenders.
He showed good acceleration when he took off from the wing on Thursday night, but he kicked poorly when he didn't have many options up forward.
He also needs to harden the **** up!
[/b]No question.
I agree with this. To me Grigg looks uninterested.
Definitely. At the moment, he shouldn't be in the 22 - I think both Armfield and Pfeiffer would do better in that small/medium defensive role, and both attack the ball very well, whereas Grigg looks very tentative. Let him develop in the 2's - he is only just coming into his second year and clearly isn't ready yet.
Should have taken Hislop
thylacine60
23 Mar 2008, 19:10
Should have taken Hislop
Bring your mouth back in 2 years, peanut.
Bring your mouth back in 2 years, peanut.
Will do.
bluegal1983
23 Mar 2008, 19:13
Should have taken Hislop
And have another bad influence at the club? No thanks :rolleyes:
I agree with this. To me Grigg looks uninterested.
He may look like this, but this is certainly not the case. Having a chat to the guy last year, he pretty much eats and breathes football.
Should have taken Hislop
Why? :eek:
TheGeneral
23 Mar 2008, 19:40
Should have taken Hislop
After you overlooked him for Jetta?
LOL.
TorresIsGod
23 Mar 2008, 19:49
Have to agree with what everyone has said here, he looks tentative and unsure what he's doing, develop him in the twos and let Pfeiffer or Armfield play that role.
prettyboy65
23 Mar 2008, 20:30
i think he will be great
but yeah pfeiffer would be better in the team atm
he just needs a bit more grit about him
thylacine60
23 Mar 2008, 20:38
i think he will be great
but yeah pfeiffer would be better in the team atm
he just needs a bit more grit about him
Can't argue with this.
Have to agree with what everyone has said here, he looks tentative and unsure what he's doing, develop him in the twos and let Pfeiffer or Armfield play that role.
Armfield is still learning, and although he gives it his all, would benefit more by remaining with the Bullants for at least the first half of the season. As for Pfieffer, he is ready made, and would be pushing for senior selection this week. Might just come down to how many changes the MC want to make for this weeks game.
TheGeneral
13 Apr 2008, 20:42
Promising today with his run and skill when he sent a bullet pass to Fev on the run.
Brilliant goal as well. :thumbsu:
But Grigg isn't a defender when he ran under the ball and didn't go hard enough when Medhurst showed better judgement to take the mark. He should keep his spot in the side for the next month, but he should be played on the wing as part of the rotations and not as a defender.
I don't like him down back.
Promising player though.
Did Wayne pick him? :)
bluegal1983
13 Apr 2008, 21:25
Grigga looks to have put on a bit of size over the past few weeks and may have lost some of his pace.... what does everybody else think about this??
Chodders
13 Apr 2008, 21:30
I was stoked for him when he kicked his goal today. It showed skill and poise and it showed he can make the right decision in a heartbeat as he knew that someone was right on his hammer and he knew it would be much more effective to roll the ball along the ground.
Well done Grigga!
Dramoth
13 Apr 2008, 21:32
I'd like to see him move to the wing and told to take them on.
I'm sick of seeing wingman and midfielders being developed by being played as defenders.
He showed good acceleration when he took off from the wing on Thursday night, but he kicked poorly when he didn't have many options up forward.
He also needs to harden the **** up!
I think that this is still a bit of a holdover from the Pagan era where a lot of our good midfield players were ruined by getting them to play in defense where they lost their attacking edge.
Should be a lot better with a few more games under his belt at either the Ants or in the seniors.
igt22265
13 Apr 2008, 21:33
Kicked an important goal in the last,
which was nice,
still think he is better behind the ball.
blueboy152
13 Apr 2008, 23:40
I think one of rattens best moves of the day was to put grigg on h shaw. Really got under shaws skin early and stoped shaws run of half back.
Bloody hell i loved today.....
GO BLUES!!:thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu:
AlecDuncan
13 Apr 2008, 23:43
But Grigg isn't a defender when he ran under the ball and didn't go hard enough when Medhurst showed better judgement to take the mark. He should keep his spot in the side for the next month, but he should be played on the wing as part of the rotations and not as a defender.
Did well as a defensive forward on Heath Shaw and pretty much snuffed him out of the game. Shaw was a match-winner last week so that was a major win for us.
TheGeneral
14 Apr 2008, 01:34
Did well as a defensive forward on Heath Shaw and pretty much snuffed him out of the game. Shaw was a match-winner last week so that was a major win for us.
Fair call regarding the move where he played on Shaw, but I was referring to the Medhurst mark which was right in front of my seat.
Grigg could have stopped it if he went in a bit harder and played the ball.
It's just a part of Grigg's game he needs to work on.
TheGeneral
22 Oct 2008, 16:11
Should have taken Hislop
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TheGeneral
22 Oct 2008, 16:18
Fair call regarding the move where he played on Shaw, but I was referring to the Medhurst mark which was right in front of my seat.
Grigg could have stopped it if he went in a bit harder and played the ball.
It's just a part of Grigg's game he needs to work on.
Thanks for proving me wrong and making me look foolish. :o :( :thumbsu: :D
http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/56333
Jeremias
22 Oct 2008, 16:27
Should have taken Hislop
You should be castrated for your lack of footballing knowledge.
Staaar_Blue
22 Oct 2008, 17:14
Grigg will be a star no doubt about it:D:thumbsu:
Had some very good games to towards the end of the end, most notibly against Adelaide and North Melbourne. Appears to have really picked up the pace of the game now, and looks pretty adept coming off the half back line, and he can also play a shut down role as well.
lily of laguna
23 Oct 2008, 17:10
Had some very good games to towards the end of the end, most notibly against Adelaide and North Melbourne. Appears to have really picked up the pace of the game now, and looks pretty adept coming off the half back line, and he can also play a shut down role as well.
I think that Grigg could (not certain) end up playing very much like Hodge.
For some reason he just reminds me of him a little. Grigg has a few years to make some ground up of course, but think he could do worse than model his game on Hodges role this year.
Any others agree?
Malifice
24 Oct 2008, 10:08
Should have taken Hislop
Hindsight's a bitch aint it?
I think that Grigg could (not certain) end up playing very much like Hodge.
For some reason he just reminds me of him a little. Grigg has a few years to make some ground up of course, but think he could do worse than model his game on Hodges role this year.
Any others agree?
I don't think he'll ever have the natural class of Hodge, but i see what you mean. Though they must go to the same naturalist for their angry pills
inyourcool
24 Oct 2008, 12:22
The only problem with Grigg is that he is one of the lesser left foot kicks I have seen. Usually, you associated left footers with good, long, accurate disposal but Shaun doesn’t fit this description. Not saying his disposal is terrible just when compared to other left footers he is not that great
TheGeneral
24 Oct 2008, 12:34
I think that Grigg could (not certain) end up playing very much like Hodge.
For some reason he just reminds me of him a little. Grigg has a few years to make some ground up of course, but think he could do worse than model his game on Hodges role this year.
Any others agree?
Grigg will be more like Birchall, but harder at the ball and the man...
Grigg will be more like Birchall, but harder at the ball and the man...
lol so like Hodge then
Blueinblood
24 Oct 2008, 18:00
Grigg is the next Jason Gram.. but more midflieldish
blues4flag
24 Oct 2008, 20:39
Grigg is the next Jason Gram.. but more midflieldish
Don't think they're all that similar to be honest.
Grigg is better defensively + more inside. Gram would probably have more pace and the better footskills, best suited to HB or the wing.
Bomba Sheldon
25 Oct 2008, 21:14
Just happy that he looks like he is starting to find his feet. Lets not forget that he was a goalkicking HFF at TAC level. Learn teh game in the back half and progress mid or fwd later on.
Big future - gee l love left footers :thumbsu:
Will be very exciting to watch him grow. We've seen with Gibbs and Murphy and will see it with Kreuzer but he is definitley one that i will love to see just grow over the next 3, 4 years.
thylacine60
25 Oct 2008, 22:12
Just happy that he looks like he is starting to find his feet. Lets not forget that he was a goalkicking HFF at TAC level. Learn teh game in the back half and progress mid or fwd later on.
Big future - gee l love left footers :thumbsu:
Same as left-handed batsmen - why do they look so smooth and precise? :thumbsu:
Jeremias
25 Oct 2008, 22:15
A solid 2nd tier midfield group is imperative to any premiership aspiring team. These are the guys that aren't necessarily stars and are often overshadowed by the more media-hyped guns in any midfield, but are capable of providing 150+ games of quality service to their football club.
This is what I see in Grigg. He'll probably never be a star, and he'll always be in the shadow of the likes of Judd, Murph, Gibbs etc., but that won't stop him from being a very good player for the Carlton Football Club over a long period of time. He's got all that a player needs to become a very long term midfield player.
If the 2nd tier of out midfield is headed by the likes of a mature Grigg in a few years time, then this footy club is well and truly heading in the right direction.
thylacine60
25 Oct 2008, 22:40
Nice one, J. But I think he'll go a tier higher than you predict. I just like everything about him. Already it seems like an age since his first few games where he ran on, was run down, run over and run off again. He's fast establishing himself now as a vital utility for us. Go the Grigga. :thumbsu:
Homer Simpson for Lance
25 Oct 2008, 23:06
Nice one, J. But I think he'll go a tier higher than you predict. I just like everything about him. Already it seems like an age since his first few games where he ran on, was run down, run over and run off again. He's fast establishing himself now as a vital utility for us. Go the Grigga. :thumbsu:
Heard he reads BF and has become a fan of yours THY, even got a tattoo of a Thy inside his foreskin. Wants a meet and greet and compare tatts with you
thylacine60
25 Oct 2008, 23:15
Heard he reads BF and has become a fan of yours THY, even got a tattoo of a Thy inside his foreskin. Wants a meet and greet and compare tatts with you
Makes sense.
You idiot. :thumbsu:
Shapes as a big bodied, defensive midfielder, which is good because this will compliment the inside of Judd and Gibbs, the predator of Murphy, and the outside of Stevens.
Still, would love to have one true hard-nosed extractor so we don't run Judd and Gibbs into the ground (and I don't rate Bentick), and another absolute class runner (because I think Simpson's kicking is suspect at best and fans tend to overrate him - his kicking makes him a 7/10 not an 8/10).
Maybe Hadley if we are lucky becomes the hard man in the middle, and Walker the runner, although Walker would want to keep working on his kicking.
Heard he reads BF and has become a fan of yours THY, even got a tattoo of a Thy inside his foreskin. Wants a meet and greet and compare tatts with you
That's rather disturbing.
:eek:
JuddTheBlue
28 Oct 2008, 02:24
Grigga was a shining light this year, I hope he continutes to improve - he is one of my favourite players.
Pafloyul
28 Oct 2008, 13:02
Shapes as a big bodied, defensive midfielder, which is good because this will compliment the inside of Judd and Gibbs, the predator of Murphy, and the outside of Stevens...
I can just see it now; "...picked up by Judd's small intestine who passes it to Gibbs' liver, spluttered out to Judd's left lung who sends a perfect pass straight into the chest of Stevens' hollow hide". "Unfortunately Murphy has just given away a free kick for biting a hole out of Thomas' leg which had been smeared with Gibbs' blood".