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Brett Ratten play Waite at CHF and when Kreuzer gets back play him up forward also. A forward line of
Betts, Fev, Fisher
Kreuzer, Waite Edwards is pretty good.
Thursday night was joke our only target was Fev. We won't win many games like this. Jarrod Waite is not a CHB. If Waite played at CHF on thurs night we might have won the game. Get your match ups right or else there will be another Num 1 pick and PP for Carlton in 08
thylacine60
23 Mar 2008, 13:47
Brett Ratten play Waite at CHF and when Kreuzer gets back play him up forward also. A forward line of
Betts, Fev, Fisher
Kreuzer, Waite Edwards is pretty good.
Thursday night was joke our only target was Fev. We won't win many games like this. Jarrod Waite is not a CHB. If Waite played at CHF on thurs night we might have won the game. Get your match ups right or else there will be another Num 1 pick and PP for Carlton in 08
:thumbsu:.
bluegal1983
23 Mar 2008, 14:21
I too like Waite forward but unfortunately I think we need his experience and athleticism down back.
If Carlos can hold down a key position down back then it could release Waite forward but it depends on the oppositions forward line.
I'd like to see Carlos and T-Bird used as our key defenders, Jamo as a third defender and Scotland and Bower used as our rebounding defenders. If this works to our advantage, Waite could then go forward.
Against the Saints I think we will need Waite down back.
jonoman89
23 Mar 2008, 14:21
waite is needed down back more. but i would still like to see him rotated through CHF now and then.
thylacine60
23 Mar 2008, 14:23
waite is needed down back more. but i would still like to see him rotated through CHF now and then.
IMO the more we do this the less likely we are to see him fulfill his true potential.
I've always thought Waite plays his best footy in the forward line, and clearly throughout his short career he has excelled more often there than down back. Last year he did get beaten a lot, with a few notable exceptions of course. I hope he proves me wrong and does well at CHB this year.
BlueMania
23 Mar 2008, 14:34
IMO the more we do this the less likely we are to see him fulfill his true potential.
Thats the very reason why Ratten has decided on one or the other , for this year at least !
thylacine60
23 Mar 2008, 14:59
Thats the very reason why Ratten has decided on one or the other , for this year at least !
Shame it's the wrong end.
Tony Lynn 15
23 Mar 2008, 14:59
I too like Waite forward but unfortunately I think we need his experience and athleticism down back.
If Carlos can hold down a key position down back then it could release Waite forward but it depends on the oppositions forward line.
I'd like to see Carlos and T-Bird used as our key defenders, Jamo as a third defender and Scotland and Bower used as our rebounding defenders. If this works to our advantage, Waite could then go forward.
Against the Saints I think we will need Waite down back.
Agreed. Waite has proven a handy match up on Reiwoldt and I fear we may pay on Saturday night if he does not start there.
BlueMania
23 Mar 2008, 15:06
Shame it's the wrong end.
At least with the inclusion (if true) of Fisher , we'll have added strength up forward which will coincide well with the return of Hampson to allow Cloke to pinch hit up forward as well . That said , I like seeing Waite up forward although I think he needs to work on his conversion rate .
Willie Stark
23 Mar 2008, 16:13
Brett Ratten play Waite at CHF and when Kreuzer gets back play him up forward also. A forward line of
Betts, Fev, Fisher
Kreuzer, Waite Edwards is pretty good.
Thursday night was joke our only target was Fev. We won't win many games like this. Jarrod Waite is not a CHB. If Waite played at CHF on thurs night we might have won the game. Get your match ups right or else there will be another Num 1 pick and PP for Carlton in 08
Once the ball hits the ground in that forward line we might be in a bit of trouble. Chuck Murph on a forward flank in place of Edwards and have Houlihan running around about 40 m out from goal and it looks even better in my opinion.
TorresIsGod
23 Mar 2008, 16:42
Leave it be for now, Waite will play on Reevolting
Fisher up forward is another option coming back in, then you've got Cloke who can pinch-hit this week as Hampson will play in the ruck, it looks a lot better, unfortunately, Edwards might miss out, as Kreuzer plays forward too
prettyboy65
23 Mar 2008, 19:31
waite is more important up forward
we cant win games if we dont kick goals
we can stretch oppositions defence if we have
fisher fev kreuzer and waite all up forward
thylacine60
23 Mar 2008, 19:33
waite is more important up forward
we cant win games if we dont kick goals
we can stretch oppositions defence if we have
fisher fev kreuzer and waite all up forward
I dig that the most, brother. :thumbsu:
prettyboy65
23 Mar 2008, 19:35
I dig that the most, brother. :thumbsu:
thanx mate
when we play exciting footy we look quality
the midfield picks up its tempo
and judd will actually have some forwards to kick too
use his skill when its available
:thumbsu:
have you heard about Waite's vertical leap?
BlueMania
23 Mar 2008, 19:41
have you heard about Waite's vertical leap?
I believe he and Hampson both have an amazing leap !
prettyboy65
23 Mar 2008, 19:49
I believe he and Hampson both have an amazing leap !
yeh haha
they are both amazing jumps for their size
but where are we going wif this fact?
BlueMania
23 Mar 2008, 20:32
yeh haha
they are both amazing jumps for their size
but where are we going wif this fact?
Hampson obviously in the ruck which will release Cloke to pinch hit in the forward line a bit more and Waite up forward with his leap is an asset expanding our options and making us less predictable , throw in the return of Fisher (hopefully this week) and our forward line regains some much needed height and potency . Hampson could drop back to help cut of opposition supply and also sneak forward to offer assistance .
prettyboy65
23 Mar 2008, 20:35
Hampson obviously in the ruck which will release Cloke to pinch hit in the forward line a bit more and Waite up forward with his leap is an asset expanding our options and making us less predictable , throw in the return of Fisher (hopefully this week) and our forward line regains some much needed height and potency . Hampson could drop back to help cut of opposition supply and also sneak forward to offer assistance .
everything you say is true
and i love waite and hammer
but i ment where did he come out wif that fact from lol
it was very random
mediumsizered
23 Mar 2008, 20:39
have you heard about Waite's vertical leap?
Apparently it's the best at the club.
DaveyBlues
23 Mar 2008, 21:11
Apparently it's the best at the club.
Youtube-Dwight Howard. Possibly the most atheletic big man alive. Huge vert
Youtube-Allen Iverson. 44 inch vert for a 5-11 man. That's jumping 2 thirds of his height.
My point is......KIDNAP DWIGHT HOWARD AND MAKE HIM RUCKMAN.
Nah actually my point is basketballers don't just naturally have big verts, its something that can be worked at, and just so happends to be adressed in basketball. Also, the exercise that improves your vert also increases your all round explosiveness (i.e accelleration). I think this needs to become more of an area of focus at the club. If everyone at the club had the abililties of Hammer and Waite we'd be destroying everyone in the air and on the break. A Carlton that can run a little faster and jump a little higher.
I believe he and Hampson both have an amazing leap !
Well, I'll wait for Robert Walls to confirm that.
Hoping he coaches a win soon.
Getting sick of the Mr 0% comments
Why not play Setanta at FB and Hartlett at CHB. I just don't understand the logic of Waite down Back. Jarrod is a player capable of kicking between 35 - 50 goals a year.
DaveyBlues
24 Mar 2008, 11:15
Why not play Setanta at FB and Hartlett at CHB. I just don't understand the logic of Waite down Back. Jarrod is a player capable of kicking between 35 - 50 goals a year.
He's also capable of preventing 35-50 goals a year, which is more important to us at the moment.
Da Bull
24 Mar 2008, 11:20
waite is more important up forward
we cant win games if we dont kick goals
we can stretch oppositions defence if we have
fisher fev kreuzer and waite all up forward
He's needed down back. Currently our defence leaks more than Kane Johnson on a police station on his way home from his 30th b'day.
I_was_there_in_87
24 Mar 2008, 13:43
My backline would be (if anybody really cares)
When/If Fit
Half Back - Scotland Jamison Walker
Full Back - Thorntan O'Hailpin Simpson
Throw in the mix Anderson as well.
Why not chuck all the dangerous people up forward.
BlueMania
24 Mar 2008, 19:25
My backline would be (if anybody really cares)
When/If Fit
Half Back - Scotland Jamison Walker
Full Back - Thorntan O'Hailpin Simpson
Throw in the mix Anderson as well.
Why not chuck all the dangerous people up forward.
Interesting choice for bp ! Rather than chucking all the dangerous people up forward , teach them ALL to be accountable and versatile . This could diminish our predictability . Just another thought .
Think it's time to change the thread name, don't you think? :p
THE AISSASSIN
25 Mar 2008, 00:55
waite is more important up forward
we cant win games if we dont kick goals
we can stretch oppositions defence if we have
fisher fev kreuzer and waite all up forward
Kreuzer showed very little when playing forward pre season.
His best form was when rucking in the praccy match v the dogs, and does not play like a natural fwd. From the limited times I saw him play TAC his forward work was based mainly on outsizing opponents deep in the fwd line. This wont get him too far ATM at AFL level and he really needs to work at presenting on the lead.
Hammer would be more dangerous up fwd ATM than Kreuz with his pace and marking ability.
Would luv to see Hammer get 5-8 mins a qtr deep in the fwd line
The Maleman
25 Mar 2008, 12:40
I too like Waite forward but unfortunately I think we need his experience and athleticism down back.
If Carlos can hold down a key position down back then it could release Waite forward but it depends on the oppositions forward line.
I'd like to see Carlos and T-Bird used as our key defenders, Jamo as a third defender and Scotland and Bower used as our rebounding defenders. If this works to our advantage, Waite could then go forward.
Against the Saints I think we will need Waite down back.
:thumbsu: finally some sense prevails!