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The Hitman
27 Jul 2002, 20:17
Let's all laugh at the Democrats. Left or right? Loyal or angst ridden fools who don't know what they want? A party in crisis.
Let's see the so-called great leadership skills from 'Tash now. Threatened to quit twice already over the Lees debacle. What a leader!
The Hitman
Shinboners
28 Jul 2002, 10:35
:D Hilarious :D
Bye bye Natasha....your fifteen minutes are up.
Spot on Hitters. A political party in search of a reason for existence. Most of the people who are associated with the party, that I've met, have been incredibly ambitious. Unable to cut it in either of the major parties, due to lack of any ability, they gravitate towards these suckers, so they can get a power boost.
Captain Sensible
28 Jul 2002, 12:56
I dont wanna defend 'Tash but...
1. Lees is in the wrong BIG TIME. Her and her little pal Murray were the ones to sell the party out to Howard and now they want to avoid blame for their actions.
2. Murray and Lees classily wait until the leader is out of the country on a death bed visit, then start causing trouble again. Are these the actions of reasonable people? I think not.
3. Lees and Murray have resigned from The Democrats. Under party rules they have freely agreed to they should now leave The Senate and let new senators be appointed.
4. Lees and Murray signed a pledge agreeing not to sell of Telstra. If they wanted to be in a party that stood (eventually) for the full sale of a government asset then they should have resigned their senate seats BEFORE the last election and taken their chances standing for the coalition.
As I said I dont like being in a position whereby I have to defend people like Natasha Stott-Despoja, but I dont like just one side of any story being represented.
The Ewok
28 Jul 2002, 14:16
The Democrats were originally formed by annoyed Liberals and since NSD has taken charge she has driven the Democrats into a loony asylum seeking supporting, femo-nazi, man hating left wing pinko party
And all the annoyed Liberals who were once Democrat voters have abandoned the Democrats and gone back to the Liberal Party and the Democrats are now election fodder
Wouldn't surprise me if Lees sets up a new middle of the road party if the Democrats can't slay the loony left wing beast their celebrity senator leader has turned them into
oh look, Piers Akerman has a home computer ... :rolleyes:
Originally posted by BSA
oh look, Piers Akerman has a home computer ... :rolleyes:
True story about Piers Akerman. Shortly after he was appointed editor of the Herald-Sun, he instigated a huge cleanout of staff. Journos were invited into his office, shafted and were never seen again.
In this atmosphere, it was with great trpidation that Barry Dickins found himself called into the inner sanctum, to meet his new boss for the first time..
Dickins walks into the office and there's Akerman sitting behind a huge desk. He motions Dickins to sit opposite him and says, "See that button in front of you on the desk?" Dickins says warily, "Yes." Akerman: I want you to push it." Dickins hesitates, Akerman repeats "Push the button." Dickins pushes the button and a panel in the top of the desk recedes into the desk, vertically.
When the panel re-surfaces there is a glass of water on it. Akerman: "There, what do you think of that?"
Dickins, bewildered: "Very impressive."
Akerman: "I like you Dickins, you're funny."
End of conversation. And that's how Dickins found out he wasn't to be sacked. Needless to say, this proved to be a mixed blessing. Dickins is a tad eccentric, but he is not certifiably off his cruet. I think the thing which worried Dickins most was that Akerman liked him. A most peculiar fellow.
wagstaff
29 Jul 2002, 18:12
And to think it was Brian Harradine voting against the GST that showed people that the Democrats weren't really an alternative to the major parties, but merely a bunch of Labor/Liberal wannabes.
The Ewok
29 Jul 2002, 19:15
Natasha is so far to the left even the ALP wouldn't want her
Hank Jones
29 Jul 2002, 19:37
Originally posted by The Ewok
Natasha is so far to the left even the ALP wouldn't want her
'Even the ALP'? When was the last time the ALP were 'left wing'?
Line up those lefties ay Adolf? ;)
Briedis
30 Jul 2002, 11:20
Originally posted by localyokel
I dont wanna defend 'Tash but...
1. Lees is in the wrong BIG TIME. Her and her little pal Murray were the ones to sell the party out to Howard and now they want to avoid blame for their actions.
2. Murray and Lees classily wait until the leader is out of the country on a death bed visit, then start causing trouble again. Are these the actions of reasonable people? I think not.
3. Lees and Murray have resigned from The Democrats. Under party rules they have freely agreed to they should now leave The Senate and let new senators be appointed.
4. Lees and Murray signed a pledge agreeing not to sell of Telstra. If they wanted to be in a party that stood (eventually) for the full sale of a government asset then they should have resigned their senate seats BEFORE the last election and taken their chances standing for the coalition.
As I said I dont like being in a position whereby I have to defend people like Natasha Stott-Despoja, but I dont like just one side of any story being represented.
I agree with you 100%.
There is a touch of sour grapes from Lees after being outsted by the party as leader. Murray is a disgrace, to air his comments about his own party in public like that is shocking and he should be expelled.
The Democrats "crisis" is more media-beatup than anything. From what I can tell there are only the two disgruntled senators and the rest are following NSD.
It is a real shame that this has happened to the Democrats. They have a lot of great policies and have provided more opposition to the government than the opposition has in recent years.
Australia needs a viable third party as the is little to differenciate the ALP and the Liberals these days.
ian_rocks
13 Aug 2002, 13:38
NSD is ****-weak, I'm a leftist and I hate her (Although I must say I see her as more centrist than leftist)! I think she is stressed very badly though, just listen to her voice every few words there is an awkard pause.
If you are going to give me stick for being a lefty do NOT read my signature!
HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE
dr nick
16 Aug 2002, 15:10
Originally posted by Briedis
Australia needs a viable third party as the is little to differenciate the ALP and the Liberals these days.
you have got to be kidding breidis, they oppose each other on just about every issue.
a viable third party, the democrats i think not.
i would vote for the greens, one nation and the australian shooters party before i vote for the democrats these days.
wagstaff
17 Aug 2002, 17:05
Originally posted by nicko18
you have got to be kidding breidis, they oppose each other on just about every issue.
On what do you base this on? Just because the mass media presents the two sides as being opposed on both issues and both sides of politics heavily criticise each other doesn't mean they are two ideologically-opposed parties. In fact the increasingly personal attacks taken by both sides of politics is done partly to hide the fact that there is little of substance seperating the two parties.
For example, take the tedious slanging match between Downer and Crean over what to do with the upcoming war in Iraq. For all the huffing and puffing from both, they both support invading Iraq, except there's the minor difference between Labor wanting it being sanctioned by the UN, while Liberal wants to go in boots and all with Bush.
Unfortunately the Democrats have lost the plot by electing a leader with very few leadership abilities. They badly need to get rid of her or they will fade away completely.
The past four Democrat leaders haven't been exactly 'flash' but this one is a real dud.
Originally posted by wagstaff
On what do you base this on? Just because the mass media presents the two sides as being opposed on both issues and both sides of politics heavily criticise each other doesn't mean they are two ideologically-opposed parties. In fact the increasingly personal attacks taken by both sides of politics is done partly to hide the fact that there is little of substance seperating the two parties.
For example, take the tedious slanging match between Downer and Crean over what to do with the upcoming war in Iraq. For all the huffing and puffing from both, they both support invading Iraq, except there's the minor difference between Labor wanting it being sanctioned by the UN, while Liberal wants to go in boots and all with Bush.
It seems in politics that if one side says black the other says white no matter how they really feel. Look at Keating wanting a GST and all the vitriol when Liberals put it on it's manifesto. Both parties knew that our tax system was in a mess and a GST was needed. If Keating had got his way and Labour introduced it you can bet your life that the Libs would have opposed it.
In reality left and right don't come into it as those voters have their ballot papers marked before the election campaign has started. So it's the middle ground that is fought over. And the middle ground is won by middle of the road policies. Hence neither party is likely to be very much apart in their true policies.