Ins & Outs vs Carlton

[BomberAce7]

In - Lovett, Welsh, Reimers
Out - Dempsey, Slattery, Lonergan

[go_the_bombers]

I'd Have Hislop in before Reimers

[BomberAce7]

I'd Have Hislop in before Reimers

Yep Tom would be in the mix too. Could be a toss up between Hislop & Reimers.

[lamaros]

In Lovett, Welsh
Out Dempsey, Slattery

Stanton needs to find some form. I noticed they gave him a bit early today, but he was still poor.

[donsman4eva]

Out: Dempsey, Slattery
In: Welsh, Reimers.

I just think we need some hard nuts to go up forward. Lets face it, we dont have the most vicious forward line going around

[fishguts]

Stanton wasn't terrible today, finished with 26 touches.

[Thrust]

Out - Dempsey, ?, ?

In - Welsh, Lovett, Hislop

Slattery will smash Stevens next week

[Windas_Magic]

IN: Welsh, Lovett, Monfries, Hislop
OUT: Dempsey, Slattery, Lonergan, JJ

I know Johnson has been playing alright but i'd like to see Hislop come in

[Schmick]

IN: Hislop, Welsh, Lovett
OUT: Dempsey, Slattery, ???

Had enough of Slattery, i reckon Hislop would be able to do just as good a job at defending or tagging as Slattery but find a bit more of the ball.
Not to mention Hislop has a much brighter future than Slattery aswell.

[Windas_Magic]

Do you think we need another key forward like Neagle or Johns or do you think McPhee, NLM, LLoyd, Welsh and a ruckman will do the job?

[boms]

Stanton wasn't terrible today, finished with 26 touches.
oMfG! StAnToN 26 pOsSiEs!

The bloke played shocking today, got no defensive pressure at all and his kicking was laughable, but ofcourse i wouldnt blame the whole game on him.

Anyways -

IN: Welsh, Lovett
OUT: Dempsey, whoever knights thought played the worse today.

[lamaros]

Stanton wasn't terrible today, finished with 26 touches.

So what? Half he kicked out on the full or straight to Geelong.

Possessions aren't everything.

JJ had a pretty ordinary game too. Maybe he'll miss instead of Slatterey.

[bomberz08]

Do you think we need another key forward like Neagle or Johns or do you think McPhee, NLM, LLoyd, Welsh and a ruckman will do the job?

Neagle needs to com in for sure.....Mcphee and laycock couldn't mark 2day mcphee nlm and welsh basically do the same thing so why have all 3 down there when this is a perfect chance for neagle to prove himself:)

[The Toecutter]

Where does Myers and Neagle fit into our selection plans?:confused::confused::confused:

[bomberstomake8]

In - Lovett, Welsh, Reimers
Out - Dempsey, Slattery, Lonergan

i agree with that although lonergan i thought did okay today..

the thing that dissapointed me most against the cats was the lack of agression
there were a number of occasions such as the ball being thrown at stanton (cant remember who through it) and i think it was hunt/wojinski pushing davey.. there was no fightback, i would have liked to see at least someone come in and bump the cats player when such things occur, its called supporting your team mates.... bring in welsh and reimers and i that problem should be solved..

slattery played a disgraceful game imo today, was really annoyed with his performance... dempsey injury is going to damage us greatley he is now a key part of our best 22.

[mick4]

IN: Welsh, Lovett, Monfries, Hislop
OUT: Dempsey, Slattery, Lonergan, JJ

I know Johnson has been playing alright but i'd like to see Hislop come in

I reckon that is fairly spot on. The team needs to be rotated a bit. Winderlich to play across half back to take over from Dempsey role across half back. Monfries deserves a chance ahead of Pev (fit or not) as a run with player. Welsh would have many possible match ups next week like Scotland, Houlihan, Stevens or however they play across half back next week getting cheap kicks

[David_Hilley#19]

Now that we have no Lucas (it really showed today) i believe we can take a rookie off the rookie list, I would love to see Bellchambers get a shot against Carlton, apparently he played quite well on the weekend, and i know that he is reasonably skillful, perhaps he could be the next Cox, a rookie ruckmen turned brilliant.

[Schmick]

I reckon that is fairly spot on. The team needs to be rotated a bit.
Winderlich to play across half back to take over from Dempsey role across half back.
Monfries deserves a chance ahead of Pev (fit or not) as a run with player. Welsh would have many possible match ups next week like Scotland, Houlihan, Stevens or however they play across half back next week getting cheap kicks
Why would we play Monfries as a run with player when got absolutely smashed when playing run with roles in the nab cup and hasn't warranted selection through the VFL?

Hislop would be a much better run with player than Monfries, and the fact he actually player well in the VFL this week unlike Monfries.

[kelvin_sheedy]

Ins: Lovett, Monfries, Welsh
Outs: Dempsey, JJ, Slattery

[kelvin_sheedy]

Why would we play Monfries as a run with player when got absolutely smashed when playing run with roles in the nab cup and hasn't warranted selection through the VFL?

Hislop would be a much better run with player than Monfries, and the fact he actually player well in the VFL this week unlike Monfries.

The reports suggested Monfries played pretty well.

Hislop has missed too much footy and needs more runs in the VFL.

[lamaros]

Honest, I think CJ should come in.

[CORZA]

ins: lovett,welsh,monfries
outs:lonergan,dempesy and my most hated slattery worst tagger eva cant kik should stay in the magoos for while i hope

[lemon chicken]

In. Lovett and Welsh

Out. Dempsey and Lonergan

I dont think Slattery was helped too much by some of the match-ups given to him. To have him line up on Johnson was asking for trouble, what area was he gonna match him? 2 weeks in a row the starting match ups have been a little off.

[Jonesy1987]

Honest, I think CJ should come in.

Big call but I actually agree, we need the structure and we cant have the second best defender going to Mcphee.

[Schmick]

The reports suggested Monfries played pretty well.

Hislop has missed too much footy and needs more runs in the VFL.
Reports i read suggest that all of Welsh, Lovett and Hislop were all better than Monfries. I don't think it matters all that much that Hislop has missed quite a bit of footy because he seems like he's in pretty good nick and would do a better job of keeping his opponent quiet than Slattery would IMO.

[Pawtucket Patriot]

In: Lovett, Welsh, Hislop

Out: JJ, Dempsey, Slattery

[M29]

OUT: 4 points

You can just see it now.

[marcuz]

Hocking and Hislop need to get fit/match fit real quick. we are a couple of big bodies short in that midfield.

[Tyler16]

I truely think we need a bit more fire power. Geelong were great today, but with Lloyd well help i had no idea how we were going to score. Laycock could of taken a few marks inside 50 but didn't eally hold any. Lee didn't look to bad up forward yesterday in the reserves. Maybe include him and if not going well get fletcher to in the forward line as the Blues dont have a tall forward line. Also, the will keep waite accountable too

[bossco]

In: Welsh Lovett
Out: Dempsey Jetta

[jettabug]

In. Lovett and Welsh

Out. Dempsey and Lonergan

I dont think Slattery was helped too much by some of the match-ups given to him. To have him line up on Johnson was asking for trouble, what area was he gonna match him? 2 weeks in a row the starting match ups have been a little off.

I don't think it matters what the match up is with Slattery! He's just ordinary! Very Ordinary!

[BomberAce7]

I don't think it matters what the match up is with Slattery! He's just ordinary! Very Ordinary!

Agree.

[bomba4eva]

In: Welsh Lovett
Out: Dempsey Jetta
Jetta? Why?

Out: Dempsey, Johnson, Slattery

In: Neagle, Welsh, Lovett

Would love to see Reimers and Hislop in the team. Neagle is the one I want to see the most.

[High Ryder]

OUT: Dempsey, Slattery

IN: Welsh, Lovett

[retroparty]

We need Lovett to give up a bit of extra zip in the foward line and in the midfield. Welsh should come in and to what Mcphee did today and see if he can do any better.

Sounds like Dempsey is injured so he won't play and Slattery or Lonergan might get given the axe.

[GoDons]

In: Welsh, Lovett
Out: Dempsey, Slattery

I'd look at Monfries for Lonergan as well.

[High Ryder]

In: Welsh, Lovett
Out: Dempsey, Slattery

I'd look at Monfries for Lonergan as well.
I was thinking that Lonergan could be in danger of having a spell in the 2's but i'd be inclined to keep playing him and backing him in. He was very good round 1. If he were to miss i'd rather Reimers came in. Monfries needs to earn his spot.

[GoDons]

I was thinking that Lonergan could be in danger of having a spell in the 2's but i'd be inclined to keep playing him and backing him in. He was very good round 1. If he were to miss i'd rather Reimers came in. Monfries needs to earn his spot.

I'm of the belief that Monfries might give us a bit more in Lonergan's position, but at the end of the day Lonergan showed a fair bit against the Roos and you want to give guys a proper go in the seniors.

I'm not sure this is quite the right time to unleash Kyle as we're fairly raw to begin with. I'd be more inclined to bring in a guy that, at the very least, could comfortably fit into the midfield rotation.

[SM10]

In: Lovett, Welsh, Hislop, Monfries
Out: Dempsey, JJ, Slattery, Laycock

Put Paddy in the ruck and leave him there.

[Kaiser Powser]

Slattery out!!!

His "tag" if you can call it that on Ablett was the worst I have ever seen, Ablett toyed with him and if Ablett ever overran or missed the ball Slattery just clattered into is back to give away the free. And then there was the turn overs...

Out: Dempsey (poor bloke), Slattery, JJ (past it unfortunately)
In: Lovett, Welsh, Hislop/Monfries

[DonMania#5]

In: Lovett, Welsh and Monfries

Out: Slattery, NLM (Inj) and Dempsey (Inj)

[Ryder Is God]

Out: Dempsey, Slattery, JJ
In: Lovett, Welsh, Hislop

[Jonesy1987]

Worst part of Slattery's game was letting people run past him off the mark saw it happen about 5-6 times, either he wasn't paying attention or he over ran them

[rioli brownlow]

Slattery out!!!

His "tag" if you can call it that on Ablett was the worst I have ever seen, Ablett toyed with him and if Ablett ever overran or missed the ball Slattery just clattered into is back to give away the free. And then there was the turn overs...

Out: Dempsey (poor bloke), Slattery, JJ (past it unfortunately)
In: Lovett, Welsh, Hislop/Monfries

i would go with this.

rama,micheal,fletcher
nlm,ryder,windelich
stanton,watson,lovett
davey,neagle(don't care if half fit, at least he is a marking target),mcphee
jetta,lloyd,welsh
hille,lonegan,mcveigh.
laycock,dyson,houli,nash

in.lovett,welsh,,neagle
out.dempsey(inj),jj,slattery,

[year of the cat]

Have the bombers got another ruckman in the VFL? Being at the game, Laycock was shocking today and I would have thought would have been one of the first in line to be dropped.

[nsj91]

an ordinary performance from you guys this week.. I'm confident we will smash you this week providing that waite does a sound job on lloyd. expect to see judd and stevens run all over you, and stanton to flop with the added pressure of being the number 1 midfielder

[retroparty]

an ordinary performance from you guys this week.. I'm confident we will smash you this week providing that waite does a sound job on lloyd. expect to see judd and stevens run all over you, and stanton to flop with the added pressure of being the number 1 midfielder

:confused:

[High Ryder]

Have the bombers got another ruckman in the VFL? Being at the game, Laycock was shocking today and I would have thought would have been one of the first in line to be dropped.Bellchambers who was in the best players but is nowhere near ready for league footy yet. An option may be to drop Laycock and have Ryder as the 2d ruck option.

[kelvin_sheedy]

an ordinary performance from you guys this week.. I'm confident we will smash you this week providing that waite does a sound job on lloyd. expect to see judd and stevens run all over you, and stanton to flop with the added pressure of being the number 1 midfielder

Not if this man can help it...

http://i32.tinypic.com/alkrad.jpg

[year of the cat]

Bellchambers who was in the best players but is nowhere near ready for league footy yet. An option may be to drop Laycock and have Ryder as the 2d ruck option.

No you have to keep Ryder at CHB. He was terrific today against an onslaught of attack. I would be getting games into Pears asap. You need to develop this kid alongside Fletcher and Michael whilst they are still around.

I would bring Pears in so you're three talls down back are Michael, Ryder and Pears and put Fletcher up forward. May give him a new life, especially while Lucas is out. Sounds like you are going to have to live with Laycock.

You also need more hardness in the middle. Its alright to have speed but you need to be able to win the ball in tight - you guys got smashed in the contested ball today. Welsh is another.

Good luck.

[angus6]

Welsh is the obvious inclusion along with lovett if he has earned it.

i believe that we need pev in the team as he is a better tag then slattery and can actually win the hard ball in the midfied, an extra body that we got smashed at today.

Hopefully the boys will be fuming and look at getting that percentage back against the blues next week

[Stants_24_Legend]

im going to get a lot of flak for this.
but everyone is entitled to their opinon.

In: Lovett, Welsh, Monfries, Bellchambers
Out: Dempsey, JJ, Slattery, Lonergan.

Dempsey obvisouley injured which is a real bugger since he had an injury free pre season and now this comes up. Bad luck Dempsey.

JJ it's hard to say really been such a great servent for us. In the last quarter today when he went through that Geelong player out on the flank was the JJ of old but the bad thing is that it was a one off. I think the MCG will be just too much ground to cover for him.

Slattery just needs a rest in the reserves i think. Didn't think he was that bad today but just needs a rest get some confidence back up and come back fit and firing. reminds me a lot of Gary O'Donnell. Keep ya chin up Slats

Lonergan, just unlucky, just one of those players that will unfortunately miss out. Loved some of the things he did but there's no I in team

Lovett not hard to say that he MUST come back into the side next week with his stand-out performance for Bendigo on Saturday

Welsh, yes i did say, i dont how we are going to fit him in the team. Comes out on Saturday for Bendigo, kicks 5 in the first half. Someone who does that must come in lol. Also can give us another option up forward.

Monfries, most courageous by far in the team (some may disagree but thats what i think) and that's what we need some courage in the team. Also played well for Bendigo, just made some little mistakes but we all make mistakes don't we

The reason we need to bring Bellchambers is because we need a decent tall ruckmen who can win a ruck tap unlike Hille. Hille has to play out of the square or at CHF while Lucas is out with injury. Laycock and Bellchambers to take the centre bounces and defensive rucks and Hille can do the body on body work in the forward line with Laycock/Bellchambers a kick behind the play. Honestly, it's worth a try isn't it.
Also with Hille down in the Carlton backline, it will stretch their defence and give us another target with Lloyd, McPhee (although he couldn't catch a cold in the Antartic today) but it would certainly be worth trying it.

Thoughts?

[Stants_24_Legend]

In: Lovett, Welsh, Hislop, Monfries
Out: Dempsey, JJ, Slattery, Laycock

Put Paddy in the ruck and leave him there.

thank f*** someone agrees with me.

[efcboy]

having watched both the vfl and afl games this round i don't think there will be much gained making wholesale changes.

essendon were pumped by the best in the business and no side is near them at present.

welsh isn't ready for seniors yet only playing 1st half and experienced quad tightness. lovett definitely is so is obvious replacement for dempsey. courtney johns copped a corkie, neagle couldn't get near it and had issues with a calf, monfries was just average. that leaves reimers and hislop who would be next in line but reimers is a bit of an outside player which we have plenty of. hislop i could make a case for as he's hard at it with reasonable skills. however having missed practice matches due to discipline i think he should wait another week. hooker was best of the big men but isn't ready nor is tayte pears, would be ridiculous to play bellchambers at this stage - he'd be much worse than laycock.

in summary if it were me i'd hold firm making one change.

in: lovett
out: dempsey

emergencies: hislop, reimers, hooker

if they perform poorly against carlton then its time to be concerned. someone needs to waive a magic wand over gumbys hamstring...

[Windas_Magic]

Im hoping the team looks something like this:
B Rama Mal Fletcher
HB Nash Ryder Winderlich
C Dyson Watson Houli
HF Welsh McPhee Lovett-Murray
F Davey Lloyd Jetta
RUCK: Hille McVeigh Stanton
INT: Hislop, Laycock, Monfries, Lovett

It'll be interesting to see who plays on the half-back flank without Dempsey, im guessing Winders or Lovett. Houli and Dyson are also guys who can play both in the midfield and off the half-back line.
From the Geelong game, i took out Slatts (was horrible and doesn't do enough offensively), Lonergan (has been impressive but hasn't got into the game and fades out of games), JJ (time to put someone like Hislop or Hocking in there) and Dempsey (injured).

[High Ryder]

Gumby is still 4 weeks away.

[Schmick]

Gumby is still 4 weeks away.
Shame, we could really use him right now and would be a perfect opportunity for him to show us what he's got. :(

[Schmick]

I like the idea of bringing Pears in and just playing him as a 3rd tall and learing from Mal and Fletch like Paddy did.

I think we should just leave Ryder at CHB, Pears as a 3rd tall and Mal and Fletch rotating between FB and up forward.

I wouldn't mind seeing us experimenting like that whilst Lucas is out.

Ideally whilst Lucas is out I think the best forward line structure that will win games will probably look something like this:

FF: Davey Lloyd Jetta
CHF: Welsh Hille NLM

[go team]

two changes max i say.. gotta give the boys time to learn the gameplan!

[Jonesy1987]

I like the idea of bringing Pears in and just playing him as a 3rd tall and learing from Mal and Fletch like Paddy did.

I think we should just leave Ryder at CHB, Pears as a 3rd tall and Mal and Fletch rotating between FB and up forward.

I wouldn't mind seeing us experimenting like that whilst Lucas is out.

Ideally whilst Lucas is out I think the best forward line structure that will win games will probably look something like this:

FF: Davey Lloyd Jetta
CHF: Welsh Hille NLM

I like the idea, but something that I think could work would be bring Pears in and play Ryder at CHF. It would give Ryder alot of a chance to impose himself on a game.

[bomberandy]

If Bellchambers comes in this week it could be Bellchambers v. Kruezer two players who in 5 years time could be the premier ruckmen of the competition. Bellchambers could be the next great ruckman to come out of the pre seaon or rookie drafts. I think he'll do a much better job than Laycock did today.

[Schmick]

I like the idea, but something that I think could work would be bring Pears in and play Ryder at CHF. It would give Ryder alot of a chance to impose himself on a game.
I was thinking of that, but Ryder just looks so good down back at the moment, why unsettle him by moving him around just to fill a position short term?

Ryder is the future of our backline and i'd rather keep him down there, learning and gaining more experience so he'll be 100% ready to take over the reigns when Mal and Fletch retire.

[Duckworth]

two changes max i say.. gotta give the boys time to learn the gameplan!

I agree. Learning a new game style will take some time as players have to adjust. This run and carry style is risky and we are going through an adjustment period. We came up against quality opposition today in Geelong. You don't want to further destroy the confidence of a young team by making lots of changes. I would like to see Knights be patient and wait and see how the Carlton games goes before dropping players based on form.

out: Dempsey (inj)
in: Lovett

[Schmick]

If Bellchambers comes in this week it could be Bellchambers v. Kruezer two players who in 5 years time could be the premier ruckmen of the competition. Bellchambers could be the next great ruckman to come out of the pre seaon or rookie drafts. I think he'll do a much better job than Laycock did today.
Very well could be the next great ruckman to come from the PSD or rookie drafts but some how I doubt he'd do a better job than Laycock if he got the chance against the Blues on Saturday.

It sure would be nice seeing Bellchambers dominate over Kruezer though :D

[hulld]

Stanton wasn't terrible today, finished with 26 touches.
can you tell me who he played on??????? which one of the dominant geelong midfielders was his opponent?????

those of you who are saying that lonergan should be dropped need to have a look at the match replay. he played quite well i thought. tackled well, attacked the ball hard, didn't waste his possessions and was one of the few bombers who was often winning the 50/50 contests.


It sure would be nice seeing Bellchambers dominate over Kruezer though :D
kruezer won't spend too much, if any time in the ruck. they'll play him forward and if that isn't working that might throw him in the middle. paddy would be the perfect matchup for him in that case. kruezer is nothing special, mark my words.

I didn't think leroy gave us anything today and with lovett coming back into the side i'd like to see remo given a chance. i reckon he can play a similar role to leroy but with a bit more agression. Slattery and JJ were/are useless, whilst obviously DC will miss:(

so i'd be making the following changes:
IN: welsh, lovett, sloppy and remo
OUT: DC, JJ, slats and leroy

however if sloppy isn't match fit I'd be leaving leroy in

[sikmoe]

Should be a great game. Essendon should get up due to the loss to Geelong they would want to bounce back and i think they will. btw why are Essendon supporters tipping Carlton over us:confused:. Bombers by 30+

Thoughts??

[NathanS]

I'm just hoping the Bombers won't be shell-shocked after a loss like that. One thing that came out of todays loss at least is that we need to bring in at least one more hard insider who can win their fair share of the ball. Lovett should also come in to replace Dempsey. So I'd go something like:

Out: Dempsey, Slattery
In: Lovett, Hislop

[Bombers42]

I'm just hoping the Bombers won't be shell-shocked after a loss like that. One thing that came out of todays loss at least is that we need to bring in at least one more hard insider who can win their fair share of the ball. Lovett should also come in to replace Dempsey. So I'd go something like:

Out: Dempsey, Slattery
In: Lovett, Hislop


Slattery out? i dont think that to be wise. I agree however Lovett must be in and whats monfries up to?

[Jonesy1987]

Any chance of Myers coming in to replace Dempsey as he was tested as HBF runner in the preseason??

[jetta2davey]

out: Dempsey, Slattery, NLM (he can't even kick with that finger), JJ

In: Lovett, Monfries, Welsh, Hislop

I am really disheartened after what i saw yesterday but hopefully bringing lovett, Welsh and monfries back into the side will give us a much needed injection of class and experience.
And Hislop will provide some much needed grunt around the ground.

[Smyth94]

No you have to keep Ryder at CHB. He was terrific today against an onslaught of attack. I would be getting games into Pears asap. You need to develop this kid alongside Fletcher and Michael whilst they are still around.

I would bring Pears in so you're three talls down back are Michael, Ryder and Pears and put Fletcher up forward. May give him a new life, especially while Lucas is out. Sounds like you are going to have to live with Laycock.

You also need more hardness in the middle. Its alright to have speed but you need to be able to win the ball in tight - you guys got smashed in the contested ball today. Welsh is another.

Good luck.

Ryder's talent and athleticism is wasted at CHB.

I was hoping Knights would've thrown him into the middle when we were getting pumped just to try out something new.

[Windas_Magic]

In an interview, Knights said Dempsey could miss 4 weeks. Just our luck, Lucas then Dempsey. I wonder who will get injured next week:(

[WN123]

I'm surprised nobody thinks Pev should come in. Especially if JJ and or Slattery are left out.

[bomberstomake8]

I truely think we need a bit more fire power. Geelong were great today, but with Lloyd well help i had no idea how we were going to score. Laycock could of taken a few marks inside 50 but didn't eally hold any. Lee didn't look to bad up forward yesterday in the reserves. Maybe include him and if not going well get fletcher to in the forward line as the Blues dont have a tall forward line. Also, the will keep waite accountable too

i dont think its a question of more fire power, just better fire power... we are a team who prides itself on accurate goalkicking. lloyd and lucas are the best shots on goal arguably in the league... what was it in the end? something like 6 goals 15 behinds and 4 out on the full kicks?
if we had have been at our normal level those 25 shots on goal would have equated to something like 15 10 and we would have only lost by 50 points to by far the best side in the comp...

including that i thought laycock was terrible in the forward line today, he had the first four or five opportunities at the start of the game alone (all of which were relatively easy marks) and he messed them up.. laycock could have kicked 4 or 5 goals today... i think we had our opportunities we just cracked under pressure and were probably too intimidated by the cats

[Windas_Magic]

I'm surprised nobody thinks Pev should come in. Especially if JJ and or Slattery are left out.
I'd prefer some fresh talent to come through. Someone like Hislop

[Schmick]

Reading todays paper, it said JJ's efficiency was only 58%, didn't realise it was that bad yesterday.

REVISED: IN: Hislop, Lovett, Welsh
OUT:JJ, Dempsey, Slattery

[forever green]

I'm surprised nobody thinks Pev should come in. Especially if JJ and or Slattery are left out.
Why the F*** would Pev come in. I don't mind loseing games not by (99) only if they play the young players like Pears, Myers, Hislop etc i don't care if there not ready for AFL cos half the team now doesn't look like there up to it anyway.. I'm jumping off the club but i would like too see the young players in there so in we can get somthing out of them so we now were the club is at.

[Longy413]

can you tell me who he played on??????? which one of the dominant geelong midfielders was his opponent?????

those of you who are saying that lonergan should be dropped need to have a look at the match replay. he played quite well i thought. tackled well, attacked the ball hard, didn't waste his possessions and was one of the few bombers who was often winning the 50/50 contests.

Near on every time Lonergan got the footy he handballed to a bloke in trouble. He lacked composure, I'm a big fan of Sammy but we should reward him for his performance yesterday. It wasn't good enough.



I think we need to look at Pears or Lee.
I actually think Lee could help in straightening us up and we need that.

McPhee and NLM looks a good idea on paper and it worked well against the Roos because we were winning plenty of footy and were moving the ball quickly. When we are pressured we need an option that can provide a contest.

Teams sit in front of Lloyd and Laycock and Hille can't contest across CHF.
We don't need another Scott Lucas, we need someone that can get the ball to ground, I actually think Lee can do that and it will allow McPhee to play higher and NLM to play deeper.

Pears can play the Dempsey role. He's not as quick, but Dempsey was good at chopping off space in the forward line and Pears reads the play much better.

IN: Pears, Lee, Lovett, Welsh
OUT: Dempsey, Lonergan, Laycock, Slattery

Not a big fan of making four changes, but I think we need it.
Welsh can play a run with role in the midfield if we need it, he gives us some more flexibility.

Let's have a look at Lee and Pears and see what they can give us.

Lovett gives us class.

We won't see Hislop till Round 5 at the earliest, so everyone can rule him out.

I'm actually excited about this week, it gives as an early look into our resolve and the committment the players have all said to have made.

[SM10]

Near on every time Lonergan got the footy he handballed to a bloke in trouble. He lacked composure, I'm a big fan of Sammy but we should reward him for his performance yesterday. It wasn't good enough.



I think we need to look at Pears or Lee.
I actually think Lee could help in straightening us up and we need that.

McPhee and NLM looks a good idea on paper and it worked well against the Roos because we were winning plenty of footy and were moving the ball quickly. When we are pressured we need an option that can provide a contest.

Teams sit in front of Lloyd and Laycock and Hille can't contest across CHF.
We don't need another Scott Lucas, we need someone that can get the ball to ground, I actually think Lee can do that and it will allow McPhee to play higher and NLM to play deeper.

Pears can play the Dempsey role. He's not as quick, but Dempsey was good at chopping off space in the forward line and Pears reads the play much better.

IN: Pears, Lee, Lovett, Welsh
OUT: Dempsey, Lonergan, Laycock, Slattery

Not a big fan of making four changes, but I think we need it.
Welsh can play a run with role in the midfield if we need it, he gives us some more flexibility.

Let's have a look at Lee and Pears and see what they can give us.

Lovett gives us class.

We won't see Hislop till Round 5 at the earliest, so everyone can rule him out.

I'm actually excited about this week, it gives as an early look into our resolve and the committment the players have all said to have made.
Why :confused:

[bomberstomake8]

Near on every time Lonergan got the footy he handballed to a bloke in trouble. He lacked composure, I'm a big fan of Sammy but we should reward him for his performance yesterday. It wasn't good enough.



I think we need to look at Pears or Lee.
I actually think Lee could help in straightening us up and we need that.

McPhee and NLM looks a good idea on paper and it worked well against the Roos because we were winning plenty of footy and were moving the ball quickly. When we are pressured we need an option that can provide a contest.

Teams sit in front of Lloyd and Laycock and Hille can't contest across CHF.
We don't need another Scott Lucas, we need someone that can get the ball to ground, I actually think Lee can do that and it will allow McPhee to play higher and NLM to play deeper.

Pears can play the Dempsey role. He's not as quick, but Dempsey was good at chopping off space in the forward line and Pears reads the play much better.

IN: Pears, Lee, Lovett, Welsh
OUT: Dempsey, Lonergan, Laycock, Slattery

Not a big fan of making four changes, but I think we need it.
Welsh can play a run with role in the midfield if we need it, he gives us some more flexibility.

Let's have a look at Lee and Pears and see what they can give us.

Lovett gives us class.

We won't see Hislop till Round 5 at the earliest, so everyone can rule him out.

I'm actually excited about this week, it gives as an early look into our resolve and the committment the players have all said to have made.

i dont think lee should come in he hasnt done anything to deserve a spot while other players have.... i personally dont think we need another big forward at the momment, we had our chances yesterday and blew it. on a normal day against less skilled opponents we would have taken those chances. for example in the first 10 minutes laycock had about 5 attacks on the footy had marks he would normally have taken but he dropped them all.. our scorline of 6 goals 15 behinds and 4 out on the full kicks reflects that we obviously didnt make do with our opportunities.. if it had of been a normal day our scorline would have read something like 15 goals 10 behinds which would have made our deficit around 50 points probably a lot less considering the effect scoreboard pressure has on the opposition...
i feel we werent getting dominated as so in general play it was more our conversion rate and skill errors going inside 50.. and if we compare geelongs defence (best in the comp) to carltons (worst in the comp) i wouldnt think we would have that problem again..

personally if we had of been at our normal level in terms of scoring coversion i think we would have only lost by around 30-40 poiints which is reasonable against a superior team like geelong..

[SM10]

In: Lovett, Welsh, Hislop, Monfries
Out: Dempsey, JJ, Slattery, Laycock

Put Paddy in the ruck and leave him there.
Revised...
Out: Demspey, NLM, Slattery, JJ

Welsh takes NLM spot.

Knowing Laycock he will probably come back and play a great game this week...
Thinking about putting Bellchambers in but probably still needs a few more good games in the 2's.
And having a think about it we dont have enough tall defenders to be playing Paddy in the ruck for the whole game.. :o

B: Rama - Michael - Fletcher
HB: Nash - Ryder - Houli
C: Winderlich - Stanton - Dyson
HF: Jetta - McPhee - Welsh
F: Laycock - Lloyd - Davey
R: Hille - Watson - McVeigh
I/C: Lovett - Lonergan - Hislop - Monfries

[Minglis]

and so quickly the knives for Dyson are put away and now its JJ's turn to be torched by the mob...

What next week? Another bad game from Watson maybe, followed by calls to drop him in favour of some kid who might be great in 2009, but for now is getting 8 touches a game off the bench for Bendigo? You guys go a little feral on the front line players in favour of the kids sometimes tbh.

I dont think Knights will react much to the Geelong game. Chances are the coaching staff half expected to be belted, positive talk or not.

In

Welsh, Monfries

Out

Dempsey, Lonergan

Though, CD's hamstring does provide a possible opening to get Lovett back into the side. I dont think AL is in Knight's best 22 at the moment and he may find himself relearning how to chase-down at Bendigo for a while yet... (remember his first two years, before he seemed to decide he was "above all that" and turned into a pure outside reciever?)

It would be interesting to bring Pev back and slug him onto Marc Murphy though. Murphy has been good this year but showed last year with Stevens out that he doesnt cope so well with a heavy tag shadowing him.

[bomba4eva]

Why the F*** would Pev come in. I don't mind loseing games not by (99) only if they play the young players like Pears, Myers, Hislop etc i don't care if there not ready for AFL cos half the team now doesn't look like there up to it anyway.. I'm jumping off the club but i would like too see the young players in there so in we can get somthing out of them so we now were the club is at.
What?

Regarding Peverill, he shouldnt be played in the Essendon team again. Serviceable player and I thank him for that but his time is finished. Just like JJ also. Somebody raised the prospect of playing Myers off the half back line. I like this idea and would be very pleased if Knights did that. Not sure if Pears is ready but it would be good to see him getting time in the seniors. If Michael retires at the end of the year we need a replacement FB and I dont want Fletcher going back there as he provides us with so much more. Do not drop Jetta. Need to get game time into him. Slattery can go back to the 2nd's and Hislop/Reimers should be given a chance. Lovett needs to be in the team this week. Obviously al; these changes cant be made in the one week but I look foreard to some fresh faces next week. Already salivating at the Carlton game. Will be a cracker!

[BabyBombers]

Though JJ was extremely lucky to be in the team round 1 and I think it's time for him to have a spell @ Bendigo. Is Andy Lovett team suspended as I think we need his pace out of the middle or on the forward line. He can be very creative. Time to probably give Monfries a go again and Andrew Welsh should be a certainty - 5 goals and only played 1/2 a game! I think we need his toughness this week provided it can be directed at the ball. We seem to giving away a lot free kicks again. Really looking forward to this weeks clash - finaely a home game!

[The_Young_Gun]

IN's: Lovett, Welsh, CJ/Neagle/Gumbleton, Pevrill.
Out's: Dempsey (hammy), JJ, Lonergan, Slattery.

Couldn't choose between CJ, Neagle or Gumbleton.
It'll show up on Thursday who Knighta thinks is fittest out of them three.

[Windas_Magic]

IN's: Lovett, Welsh, CJ/Neagle/Gumbleton, Pevrill.
Out's: Dempsey (hammy), JJ, Lonergan, Slattery.

Couldn't choose between CJ, Neagle or Gumbleton.
It'll show up on Thursday who Knighta thinks is fittest out of them three.
Gumby is 4 weeks away.
The other two didnt do much in the VFL and I think he'll persist with Lovett-Murray, McPhee and Welsh on the half forward line

[Schmick]

IN's: Lovett, Welsh, CJ/Neagle/Gumbleton, Pevrill.
Out's: Dempsey (hammy), JJ, Lonergan, Slattery.

Couldn't choose between CJ, Neagle or Gumbleton.
It'll show up on Thursday who Knighta thinks is fittest out of them three.
As Windas_Magic said, Gumbleton is still injured, and even if he wasn't, Gumbleton would be an automatic selection ahead of those two, especially Johns.

[The_Young_Gun]

It said on the Medibank injury list yesterday (On the Big screen) at the game that Gumby was only 1 week away from fitness, Usually its correct, since I'm guessing John Quinn or Knighta would update the AFL on our injury status.

[Windas_Magic]

It said on the Medibank injury list yesterday (On the Big screen) at the game that Gumby was only 1 week away from fitness, Usually its correct, since I'm guessing John Quinn or Knighta would update the AFL on our injury status.
His hammy may recover within the week but theres no way that Knights will rush him back to AFL. He'll play a couple of light games with Bendigo and then might come into the seniors by round 5 or 6.

[HFF_07]

no need to get off on so many of the kids. we played a far superior team and that reflected on we we are as a team. to be honest we should not be playing either Slattery or Monfries, both are useless, i would prefer to see someone like Myers or Reimers (who i heard dominated ressies) get a game and play in the back pocket. With welsh coming back the back line should be

B: Welsh Michael Fletcher

HB: Ramanauskas Ryder Winderlich

Winderlich provides good run and carry and isnt scared to take the opposition on which is what we need.

Is just my opinion though

[HFF_07]

Can someone let me know how our number 2 draft pick of a couple of years back is going, I speak of scott gumbleton.

He could play in the same mould as a Riewoldt and then be able to handball of to the running players and kick it over the wall that teams sit in front of Lloyd and Laycock.

Back in the hey day for lloyd. he was one out none of this three men up..

Pagans paddock any one.......................

[Minglis]

Pagan tried Pagan's paddock with Fevola for years.

Its why Pagan isnt a coach anymore

[Big Blow Hard]

In Riemers, Lovett, Welsh,

[lemon chicken]

Near on every time Lonergan got the footy he handballed to a bloke in trouble. He lacked composure, I'm a big fan of Sammy but we should reward him for his performance yesterday. It wasn't good enough.

I was confused at how Lonergan was used yesterday. The bloke loves to kick a goal and is great at stealing one over the back of the pack or front and centre but when we played Laycock out of the square there was no one at his feet. I just dont think he is an on-baller in the seniors yet.

[lemon chicken]

and so quickly the knives for Dyson are put away and now its JJ's turn to be torched by the mob...

What next week? Another bad game from Watson maybe, followed by calls to drop him in favour of some kid who might be great in 2009, but for now is getting 8 touches a game off the bench for Bendigo? You guys go a little feral on the front line players in favour of the kids sometimes tbh.

I dont think Knights will react much to the Geelong game. Chances are the coaching staff half expected to be belted, positive talk or not.

In

Welsh, Monfries

Out

Dempsey, Lonergan

Though, CD's hamstring does provide a possible opening to get Lovett back into the side. I dont think AL is in Knight's best 22 at the moment and he may find himself relearning how to chase-down at Bendigo for a while yet... (remember his first two years, before he seemed to decide he was "above all that" and turned into a pure outside reciever?)

It would be interesting to bring Pev back and slug him onto Marc Murphy though. Murphy has been good this year but showed last year with Stevens out that he doesnt cope so well with a heavy tag shadowing him.

It would be a crime if he wasnt picked this week. There were several times in the last qtr for Bendigo where 5 or more team-mates came to embrace him after some of things that he did. His body language suggested to me that his confidence would be sky high at the moment. I reckon an inclusion of that would be a pretty handy thing.

[OFFtheBALL]

Do us a favor dons. SMACK THOSE BLUES !!!:thumbsu::thumbsu:

[#1 Dogs Fan]

Not if this man can help it...

http://i32.tinypic.com/alkrad.jpg


hahahahhaha top post mate :D:D:D:thumbsu::thumbsu:

[bossco]

Does anyone think there is a possibility of promoting Atkinson to play the same role as Dempsey?

[Bomber32]

In: Lovett, Welsh, Monfries
Out: Johnson, Dempsey, Slattery

[Stants_24_Legend]

Does anyone think there is a possibility of promoting Atkinson to play the same role as Dempsey?
Yeah now that you say it could be a very big possiblity