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windyhill
30 Mar 2008, 22:01
How ****ing dare essendon "supporters" mouth off at Matthew Lloyd, you un-thinking, totally brain dead ****wits. **** off out of my club.
Stants_24_Legend
30 Mar 2008, 22:02
Agreed.
Didn't do too badly today
16 touches or something like that.
rainman06
30 Mar 2008, 22:05
Id be surprised if there were many essendon fans jeering him today if any at all. Certainly stupid of them if they did.
i think lloyd actually did good today, didnt get much supply, and still managed to go out there and play better then half the essendon team.
caboose
30 Mar 2008, 22:09
How ****ing dare essendon "supporters" mouth off at Matthew Lloyd, you un-thinking, totally brain dead ****wits. **** off out of my club.
That tends to be my reaction as well to morons who say James Hird wasn't everything he was cracked up to be.
here here. Its hard to do much in the forward line when the ball doesnt get down there, and when it does its a rushed disposal under pressure.
I thought Lloyd fought hard all day. A true professional.
DapperDon
30 Mar 2008, 22:14
Got well and truely beaten, but never, i repeat never, treat the captain like that. For those who did hang your head in shame, Lloyd gives everything he has out on the ground every week, he'll sacrafice his own game for the better of the team without a blink of the eye. Treat the man like the way he deserves, a champion.
Ryder Is God
30 Mar 2008, 22:17
Disgusting how some of our "supporters" treat Lloyd.
i made the point to geelong fans that he had kicked as many goals as geelongs full forward (hawkins)!
from limited supply he had little chance and actually took some okay marks. i'm still dubious if a full forward should be made captain no matter how good he is. when the going is getting tough like today its hard for a full forward to make an impact when you're getting smashed in the clearances!
FullFathom5
30 Mar 2008, 22:30
I agree. The whole team got killed (well, all except Ryder). We have bigger concerns: covering for Dempsey and trying to get the forward line working when Lloyd isn't having a great day. I don't think the resting ruckman is really the answer.
Pawtucket Patriot
30 Mar 2008, 22:31
How ****ing dare essendon "supporters" mouth off at Matthew Lloyd, you un-thinking, totally brain dead ****wits. **** off out of my club.
I couldn't have put it better myself. Lloyd is a true champion of the the club.
Id be surprised if there were many essendon fans jeering him today if any at all. Certainly stupid of them if they did.
It was only the brain dead Cats supporters who were doing it around me, no Bombers.
haywood jablome
30 Mar 2008, 22:43
It was only the brain dead Cats supporters who were doing it around me, no Bombers.
I made sure I gave Lloyd a clap when he took a mark.
dave_27
30 Mar 2008, 22:46
cats fans windy.
Mcphee's bronx cheer on the other hand.... I couldnt help myself.
cats fans windy.
Mcphee's bronx cheer on the other hand.... I couldnt help myself.
shame on you:thumbsd:
aintplayin03
31 Mar 2008, 00:44
I applaud all of you. Look at 80% of the other so called "supporters" and they have been bagging all our players, yet you guys are the few to stand up and really support the team.
Sure, our loss was dissapointing, but how is bagging your own team going to help?????? Open your friggin eyes and SUPPORT, call yourselves supporters yet you bag superstars like Lloyd, and other great players like McPhee. Lay off it, start supporting.
Good on you guys for backing up our Captain.
Bombers42
31 Mar 2008, 01:54
yes this was shocking...firstly for the taunting the captain and secondly...the midfield's entries into the fifty where all under the pump, hence why lloyd struggled. no need to boo.
couchy555
31 Mar 2008, 02:31
Yeah i would hardly say it was his fault what happened to ya. Done a heck of a lot for your club and is tryin to work his way back from some serious leg injuries, still got over sixty goals for ur team last year too.
Booin ur captain is a bit rough.
rainman06
31 Mar 2008, 02:53
Booing ones own players is one thing i have never understood. Same with the people who wait till their team is leaving the ground and hurl abuse at them as they enter the players race. (Melbourne supporter did it this week).
Could of been worse, fans could of started spitting on Knighter like the Richmond supporters.
The Dustbin
31 Mar 2008, 07:41
Surely it was Geelong supporters booing lloyd.
If it wasn't then those Ess supporters booing or verbally attacking Lloyd can &%$ off. :mad:
This disgusts me.... He is not just an Ess player he is a club and AFL champion.
thebigboy
31 Mar 2008, 08:42
Considering he was running our forward line by himself, he did a pretty good job.
Some "fans" aren't happy unless he kicks 10 goals a week
I don't support the bronx cheering of Lloyd by his own supporters but I do hope it tells him his job is to play forward and kick goals. Escaping the forward line for three quarters of the day because he thinks Scarlett is better than him is not right.
AND if you're going to go outside the 50... FFS don't send Watson in to run out of the square!
catburr
31 Mar 2008, 10:44
Surely it was Geelong supporters booing lloyd.
If it wasn't then those Ess supporters booing or verbally attacking Lloyd can &%$ off. :mad:
This disgusts me.... He is not just an Ess player he is a club and AFL champion.
:mad:I'm a cat supporter who was at the game and noone near us was booing Lloyd, it was your own supporters.
dave_27
31 Mar 2008, 11:06
:mad:I'm a cat supporter who was at the game and noone near us was booing Lloyd, it was your own supporters.
bull---- the majority of bronx cheering was coming from your reserved seaters sitting on the wing level 1.
Not a Wellman
31 Mar 2008, 11:10
Could of been worse, fans could of started spitting on Knighter like the Richmond supporters.
I was at isle 8 where knighter was coming in and out and even at 3 qtr time he was still getting a big cheer from the bombers faithful.
"AND if you're going to go outside the 50... FFS don't send Watson in to run out of the square!"
If only Watson could kick set shots he looked the most dangerous out of everyone that had a crack at full foward. That 2nd quarter after the first 5 mins we had all the play just for Watson and others to kick badly.
Don Envy
31 Mar 2008, 11:48
I too hope that it was cat's supporters and not us. Lloyd deserves much better than that. However, we do have history, just ask Paul Salmon.
Here_we_come
31 Mar 2008, 12:02
How ****ing dare essendon "supporters" mouth off at Matthew Lloyd, you un-thinking, totally brain dead ****wits. **** off out of my club.
Couldn't agree more! I was absolutely appalled when I heard people mouthing off when lloyd got the ball. what crap about it being only geelong fans, the jeer was way too big to be solely from the cats supporters. Our captain, who kicked six last week, has 1 bad match and this is the way some of our supporters treat him! Disgusting! Lloyd is a true champion of the game and should be treated as such. For all the so-called supporters who did give him a jeer, don't go to anymore games. We would play better without you!
BabyBombers
31 Mar 2008, 12:25
Wasn't @ the game myself but would hate to think that our own supporters would give it to Lloyd or any of our boys. Does anyone seriously believe that they aren't trying out there? I think that they give their all each and every time they go out to play. We were smashed by a far superior team (except Paddy Ryder according to all I have read and heard). I don't think they need us to tell them they had a bad game the look on their faces and their body language says it all. I have unfortunately had the misfortine of having to sit with Geelong members before and they certainly give Lloyd nothing. From the way they speak of him you would swear he was the crappest player to ever play the game. Which as we all know is absolute crap. Let's hope Lloyd and the boys get back on track with a win over Carlton on Saturday night.:o
The_Young_Gun
31 Mar 2008, 12:36
I'm not surprised that we didn't kick any more than 6 goals yesterday, and I'm not surprised that Lloyd didn't kick any!!!
Obviously we weren't prepared yesterday and obviously Matty Knights was trying out a style of footy we never played before and I'm not talking about the fast paced style of footy we've been playing lately (Which has been fantastic) we were playing that style yesterday but we were lacking out down in our forward line, If you actually think about it, our only real Experienced forward player was Lloyd..... We also had Mcphee, NLM and Lonergan down there too, but they weren't ever trained to play up forward either of them 3, Mcphee and NLM both have been playing up half back for the majority of their careers and Lonergan I'm guessing hasn't ever played forward at all, apparently in his high school years of playing football he was a real ball magnet who averaged 30 to 35 touches a game. Now this is what the Geelong backman will be thinking "Hey, it seems that Lloyd is going to be the only real target up forward today, so why don't we just double up on Lloyd and the rest of you can just zone off, Easy as F***ing piss".
I'm guessing our game plan yesterday was to try to kick to Lloyd in every contest possible, and hope that he'll kick 11 for the day, pretty unreliable plan I think. To me Lloyd had a pretty good game even though he didn't kick a goal, if I was a selector for this footy team and I hate to say it but I would have picked the big CJ to come into the side this week, at least he has some sort of experiance up forward at all, he could of had a huge impact on the game, you know, we could have lost by only 98 points, see the huge difference it makes.
Everyone shat themselves going forward, decision making was terrible and no one could keep a calm head in the final 3rd of the ground.
If anyone booed Lloyd then harden the **** up.
David_Hilley#19
31 Mar 2008, 13:06
I think it is very difficult for Lloyd to kick any goals when we persist with playing Lloyd further up the ground. I personally thought Lloyd did a very nice job, often marking the ball about 60-70 metres and giving the hands off to someone running past. However i would most certainly prefer him being the next kick rather than the one marking 60 out. Lloyd is more likely to kick a bag playing out of the goal square than he is playing further up the ground.
It was only the brain dead Cats supporters who were doing it around me, no Bombers.
Same experience.
Thought it was pretty sad to be honest, I can't say I've ever been too bothered by the opposition when Essendon's been up by 80-90 points.
retroparty
31 Mar 2008, 14:14
I made sure I gave Lloyd a clap when he took a mark.
Lloydy took more marks than half of your teams players
The Dustbin
31 Mar 2008, 15:05
bull---- the majority of bronx cheering was coming from your reserved seaters sitting on the wing level 1.
2nd that. :mad:
Everyone shat themselves going forward, decision making was terrible and no one could keep a calm head in the final 3rd of the ground.
If anyone booed Lloyd then harden the **** up.
Too Right ... It was the final kick to go inside 50 that really killed us yesterday. Too many skill errors and too many bad decisions.
Listening to Knighta in the PC he knows this. I think alot can be attributed to the Cats awesome percieved pressure...
Hopefully we learn, improve in the area's we need to and move on..
Also to any Bombers supporters that got stuck into the Captain of your Club ... F18k off we don't need you!! :mad:
jimmy j hird
31 Mar 2008, 16:48
Essendon supporters shouldn't be saying nothing bad about Lloyd. Show some pride get behind the players, even if we do lose a game, to probably the best side in the AFL. Everyone has the bad days every now and then and thats normal. But if they are losing should still be cheering for them, they might get a lift from it. Lloyd played good yesterday. He's our captain respect him.
haywood jablome
31 Mar 2008, 17:02
How ****ing dare essendon "supporters" mouth off at Matthew Lloyd, you un-thinking, totally brain dead ****wits. **** off out of my club.
here here. Its hard to do much in the forward line when the ball doesnt get down there, and when it does its a rushed disposal under pressure.
I thought Lloyd fought hard all day. A true professional.
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I heard the McPhee shite, but Lloyd? It was clearly geelong fans booing.
I heard the McPhee shite, but Lloyd? It was clearly geelong fans booing.
Exactly, where I was sitting us Bombers were out numbered about 30 to one, most of the dropkick Cats supporters jeered when Lloyd got the ball, kudos to the few who didn't & shook their heads at those that did.
eddie_punchclock
1 Apr 2008, 00:30
How ****ing dare essendon "supporters" mouth off at Matthew Lloyd, you un-thinking, totally brain dead ****wits. **** off out of my club.
harsh words.
did u actually see/hear any of us doing this?
i'd be very surprised......
maybe the odd drunken idiot, but come on.....
Wasn't at the game, and could only watch the first half on TV, but any booing of Lloyd sounds pretty disgraceful.
A question though: why ISN'T Lloydy playing one-on-one leadup out of the goalsquare? That's where he has always done his best work (i.e. where his two tons came from a few years back) and having that single clear target may have helped our delivery into the forward line. While he isn't obviously at his peak, I can still see him being strong and quick enough to get off Scarlett on the lead or play body-on-body in the square.
Why isn't he played like that any more? Even if he doesn't mark it, surely we could get some crumbers (Davey, Jetta) running front and square to feed off that? Anything would be better than the crap setup we had on Sunday. What are your guys thoughts?
bombersmad75
1 Apr 2008, 09:11
Well said just lay off. All the knockers will be praising him next week.
Everyone shat themselves going forward, decision making was terrible and no one could keep a calm head in the final 3rd of the ground.
If anyone booed Lloyd then harden the **** up.
They're the theatre goers at the club, and every club has them. They pay for a ticket and a seat, and either clap or boo, they're not real supporters of the red and black. I got rid of one of them on Sunday standing behind him, I was in his ear all afternoon and finally the sauce on the four'n twenty found its target.
As mentioned by a few others, it was mostly if not primarily Cat fans. I was in the AFL members and there was zero jeering of Lloyd where I sat. All of the jeers seemed to come from the opposite wing aka the Geelong member’s reserved seating area.
Bombermania
1 Apr 2008, 12:16
It was a strange match, normally if we are being thrashed I would be screaming but I felt we gave our best and Geelong are a great side that has imporved on last year as I though might happen once they managed to win a flag.
Lloyd knows he was beaten and doesn't need us to remind him, Scarlett is one of the best full backs I've seen play the game and as a team we were given a working over, I will be more disappointed if we get thrashed by Carlton.
Essendon tends to get thashed at least once a year and if that is the worst we play this year then I'm happy.
The Dustbin
1 Apr 2008, 12:30
It was a strange match, normally if we are being thrashed I would be screaming but I felt we gave our best and Geelong are a great side that has imporved on last year as I though might happen once they managed to win a flag.
Lloyd knows he was beaten and doesn't need us to remind him, Scarlett is one of the best full backs I've seen play the game and as a team we were given a working over, I will be more disappointed if we get thrashed by Carlton.
Essendon tends to get thashed at least once a year and if that is the worst we play this year then I'm happy.
Was lloyd beaten? Just becuase he didn't kick any goals doesn't mean he didn't contribute.
He was far from our worse.
Bombermania
1 Apr 2008, 12:32
Was lloyd beaten? Just becuase he didn't kick any goals doesn't mean he didn't contribute.
He was far from our worse.
Mate! we were beaten all over the ground, Lloyd was starved of opportunities, I agree Matty was not the worst.
Mate! we were beaten all over the ground, Lloyd was starved of opportunities, I agree Matty was not the worst.
Correct we were beaten everywere ecspecialy in close and at the stopages, But Lloydy was far from our worst...
It was all the moron Geelong members that were heaping s**t on Lloydy, mainly from level 1 on the Dougie Hawkings wing. I was on level 3 behind our goals and the Geelong supporters there weren't joining in, which seems to say a lot about your average (or below average) Geelong member. Lloydy is the heart and soul of our club and busts a gut, week in and week out. There's no way any Essendon supporter would every say a bad word about him.
Bomber4eva
1 Apr 2008, 22:26
Correct we were beaten everywere ecspecialy in close and at the stopages, But Lloydy was far from our worst...
i dont recall seeing scarlett do anything great or lloyd really getting beaten by scarlett. A couple of shocking kicks from lloydy though which is uncharacteristic. Hope he makes up for it next week, would love to thump carlton.
i dont recall seeing scarlett do anything great or lloyd really getting beaten by scarlett. A couple of shocking kicks from lloydy though which is uncharacteristic. Hope he makes up for it next week, would love to thump carlton.
Spot on it wasnt as id Scarlett was realy damaging us on the rebound, IIRC Lloyd missed four goals very uncharacteristic as you say but its not as if he was starved on the ball and didnt get a kick, and who dosent love to thump Carlton :p..
The Dustbin
2 Apr 2008, 07:57
Mate! we were beaten all over the ground, Lloyd was starved of opportunities, I agree Matty was not the worst.
Not quite. Ryder smashed Mooney.
FandangoDingo
2 Apr 2008, 13:06
i made the point to geelong fans that he had kicked as many goals as geelongs full forward (hawkins)!
from limited supply he had little chance and actually took some okay marks. i'm still dubious if a full forward should be made captain no matter how good he is. when the going is getting tough like today its hard for a full forward to make an impact when you're getting smashed in the clearances!
I despise supporters booing their own players. How very Collingwood/Richmond! :thumbsd: (apologies to Blues supporters, who just missed out! ;))
I agree that Full Forward (or either end of the ground) is not the best position for a Captain in the modern game.
Can anyone name a recent-ish Full-Forward or Full-Back Captain who's achieved team success?
bomberz08
2 Apr 2008, 16:23
That tends to be my reaction as well to morons who say James Hird wasn't everything he was cracked up to be.
Totally agree with u
lloyd is a champ i hope he gets his old form back
I don't support the bronx cheering of Lloyd by his own supporters but I do hope it tells him his job is to play forward and kick goals. Escaping the forward line for three quarters of the day because he thinks Scarlett is better than him is not right.
AND if you're going to go outside the 50... FFS don't send Watson in to run out of the square!
agreed...... and Scarlett hurt him even more when he ventured up the field.
your the FF Matty. It's no use the midfielders getting the ball if you ain't there to kick it to
windyhill
6 Apr 2008, 01:58
4 goals , not bad, especially when you have 2 or 3 carlton maggots hanging off you.......
Big Blow Hard
6 Apr 2008, 13:12
I was so close to getting in a verbal stoush with some of our own supporters last night. They bagged out Lloyd non stop all night. If they could not see the difference in delivery early to Lloyd, compared to what Fev was getting, they don;t deserve to be supporters. Lloyd provided when it counted, it is not his fault if we can't hit his chest.
Thumbs down to those Negative Nellies! :thumbsd:
Just on Lloyd, Is he the hardest done by Full Forward in the league, or what? I counted at least a half dozen times he was held, pushed, arms hached, climbed on during the game. Free kicks I am sure Reiwoldt, Franklin or any other forward would be paid. Rocca from Collingwod gets screwed like Lloyd as well. Rules for some.
Bombermania
6 Apr 2008, 14:32
I was so close to getting in a verbal stoush with some of our own supporters last night. They bagged out Lloyd non stop all night. If they could not see the difference in delivery early to Lloyd, compared to what Fev was getting, they don;t deserve to be supporters. Lloyd provided when it counted, it is not his fault if we can't hit his chest.
Thumbs down to those Negative Nellies! :thumbsd:
Just on Lloyd, Is he the hardest done by Full Forward in the league, or what? I counted at least a half dozen times he was held, pushed, arms hached, climbed on during the game. Free kicks I am sure Reiwoldt, Franklin or any other forward would be paid. Rocca from Collingwod gets screwed like Lloyd as well. Rules for some.
I'm not sure where you would have been sitting but I was at the Essendon end and the only insults directed at Lloyd came from Carlton supporters.
While on Carlton supporters I had to laugh at the sore loser who spent the third term singing the club song and carrying on everytime Carlton got a goal only to at games end threaten some Essendon guy for cheering then tried to pick a fight with the Essendon supporter's mate who happened to be a Carlton person. :thumbsd:
I was so close to getting in a verbal stoush with some of our own supporters last night. They bagged out Lloyd non stop all night. If they could not see the difference in delivery early to Lloyd, compared to what Fev was getting, they don;t deserve to be supporters. Lloyd provided when it counted, it is not his fault if we can't hit his chest.
Thumbs down to those Negative Nellies! :thumbsd:
The guy that sits behind me at the 'G (a supposed Essendon supporter) is like that, not just about Lloyd but practically the entire list. It's pathetic. Of course you don't have to be totally one-eyed but "supporters" like that make me sick. They should just piss off to Richmond.
Sorry, that was going rather off topic...
Big Blow Hard
6 Apr 2008, 14:54
I'm not sure where you would have been sitting but I was at the Essendon end and the only insults directed at Lloyd came from Carlton supporters.
While on Carlton supporters I had to laugh at the sore loser who spent the third term singing the club song and carrying on everytime Carlton got a goal only to at games end threaten some Essendon guy for cheering then tried to pick a fight with the Essendon supporter's mate who happened to be a Carlton person. :thumbsd:
I was sitting near centre wing in the Essendon reserved seats. I think it was just one group of blokes, but geez it was pissing me off.
Bombermania
6 Apr 2008, 15:07
The guy that sits behind me at the 'G (a supposed Essendon supporter) is like that, not just about Lloyd but practically the entire list. It's pathetic. Of course you don't have to be totally one-eyed but "supporters" like that make me sick. They should just piss off to Richmond.
Sorry, that was going rather off topic...
Why would anyone consistantly bag their own side, sure when we are playing badly I might show some frustration
Why would anyone consistantly bag their own side, sure when we are playing badly I might show some frustration
Unfortunately, there's some of them out there
4 goals , not bad, especially when you have 2 or 3 carlton maggots hanging off you.......
Nice.