View Full Version : bloody HALL GETS 7 WEEKS
leroyeagle
15 Apr 2008, 21:01
WTF? 25% off because he pleads guilty! How piss weak is that, was he going to plead not guilty? Make the 7 weeks start when his limp wrist has healed.
Tripped up
15 Apr 2008, 21:02
WTF? 25% off because he pleads guilty! How piss weak is that, was he going to plead not guilty? Make the 7 weeks start when his limp wrist has healed.
Not enough. Simple.
Are Swans a protected species in Victoria?
bigburger
15 Apr 2008, 21:07
As a trained athlete in combat sports he should lose that 25%. He arguably (very loose argument though) took Stakers life into his own hands knowing the full consequences of what could happen. Should have got 10 minimum.
Bloodborn
15 Apr 2008, 21:09
I hope Staker is OK - diabolical hit from Barry and obviously not at all in the spirit of the Eagles Swans rivalry that fans have enjoyed over recent years.
sdb4884
15 Apr 2008, 21:10
Just disgusted with that. He is only really missing 3-4 weeks because of his wrist injury. A 25% discount for pleading guilty also? I would like West Coast to say that they are not happy with it but I doubt that will happen. :thumbsd:
AFL is weak as piss and stupid as Bush. :thumbsu:
Basically all I am hoping is that Sydney lose all 7 games where Hall is missing.
That would be just nice. :thumbsu:
Ruddiger
15 Apr 2008, 21:12
AFL looking after the developing market of Sydney.
Pathetic act and response.
angel12
15 Apr 2008, 21:14
yeh i agree suspension should start when his wrist has healed and then that would be most the season, deserved to get the season.
Woody80
15 Apr 2008, 21:21
yeh i agree suspension should start when his wrist has healed and then that would be most the season, deserved to get the season.
What a Bloody joke this is 7 weeks, should have got 14 weeks and also Please Explain to the AFL he is a thug and The AFL should look into this I Tell you if he hit one off my sons like that I dont give a shit how good off a boxer he is i would hunt him Down end off story!
You guys have issues hey. He did not get a 25% discount in points. His councel argued that he should, and teh jury was told to take that into consideration. Your hero, ben cousins has done much much more to tarnish the name of the code in Australia... or is that to be long forgotten?
Just curious... if Hally hit Medhurst..or even Jeff Farmer... would this even be an issue? Or would you guys be calling for him to be knighted?
yeh i agree suspension should start when his wrist has healed and then that would be most the season, deserved to get the season.
You just cant do that.
As I said on the main page Sydney would get some lawyer or doctor in to argue that he could "technically" wear a guard or something. So either way he;d get 7 weeks.
Good that he will miss 7 weeks and also we wont have to deal with him later in the year.
Black Thunder
15 Apr 2008, 21:24
he misses the game next game against us. that's the main thing as for as we are concerned. it's of no real consequence to us whether he misses games against other teams....
this is a definate case of why the AFL should have a send off rule. we were disadvantaged during the game, but other teams are going to benefit. because of the strange fixturing this year we also will benefit.
we've got far more problems within our playing group than to get mixed up about what hall should've been suspened for.
EagleMan87
15 Apr 2008, 21:25
You guys have issues hey. He did not get a 25% discount in points. His councel argued that he should, and teh jury was told to take that into consideration. Your hero, ben cousins has done much much more to tarnish the name of the code in Australia... or is that to be long forgotten?
Just curious... if Hally hit Medhurst..or even Jeff Farmer... would this even be an issue? Or would you guys be calling for him to be knighted?
Yeah, and he was kicked out of the Eagles and banned by the AFL for 12 months.
What's your point?:confused:
You just cant do that.
As I said on the main page Sydney would get some lawyer or doctor in to argue that he could "technically" wear a guard or something. So either way he;d get 7 weeks.
Good that he will miss 7 weeks and also we wont have to deal with him later in the year.
Well... hally is probably the least of your problems anyway. He got one goal in a game where u guy got thrashed by 60+ points. Between now and then, hopefully you guys can get some momentum up, a few players back from injury and a bit more form, so that we can get back to that classic rivalry that we have had over the last few years.
Yeah, and he was kicked out of the Eagles and banned by the AFL for 12 months.
What's your point?:confused:
Yeah true... it only took them 2 years to do something about it, which is really good. Even though, when Woosha took the coaching job he was told that there were problems of a drug culture through the club.
Well... hally is probably the least of your problems anyway. He got one goal in a game where u guy got thrashed by 60+ points. Between now and then, hopefully you guys can get some momentum up, a few players back from injury and a bit more form, so that we can get back to that classic rivalry that we have had over the last few years.
Yeah I was thinking that too. Like someone said we have MUCH bigger problems than Barry Hall at the moment! :eek:
eagles rule
15 Apr 2008, 21:33
I`m happy with 7 wks but feel robbed because he` gonna be out injured anyway.
IMO: If Staker had recieved a broken jaw then Hall would have gotten 12 wks but scans are clear and looks like he`s gonna be alright.
EagleMan87
15 Apr 2008, 21:34
Yeah true... it only took them 2 years to do something about it, which is really good. Even though, when Woosha took the coaching job he was told that there were problems of a drug culture through the club.
Yeah, you're right. Unfortunately skill is hard to let go of, even when it's attached to an idiot.
Half the West Coast supporters in Australia would gladly take Benny back, I'd stake my house on it.
Still, we're getting off topic; we were talking about Barry Hall and his suspension. Well, I think it's ok, I doubt he'll ever pull something like that again, either that or he's a bigger dick than I thought.
eagledream
15 Apr 2008, 21:50
You guys have issues hey. He did not get a 25% discount in points. His councel argued that he should, and teh jury was told to take that into consideration. Your hero, ben cousins has done much much more to tarnish the name of the code in Australia... or is that to be long forgotten?
Just curious... if Hally hit Medhurst..or even Jeff Farmer... would this even be an issue? Or would you guys be calling for him to be knighted?
Hrm... if Hall hit Medhurst or Farmer, to me it wouldn't be as significant an issue as it is when it's an eagle, however, it WAS an eagle hit, so discussion on an EAGLE board is pretty valid in my opinion. I wouldn't be calling for him to be knighted though. To suggest that we'd commend the blatant thugery that could easily end a players career is atrocious. You should hear back to your own board before you look any more stupid and careless than you already do.
Banyo Bloods
15 Apr 2008, 21:52
Whilst I will never see eye to eye with any of you regarding the severity of the sentence etc.
I am sick of people bringing up drug culture in every argument when it comes to your club. Drugs are not a simple fix issue and they are completely irrelevant to Barry Hall punching someone in a game.
I will defend my team and it's players probably with as much biased passion as I can muster but I will never cheapen my argument trying to bring up off field problems at the West Coast Eagles.
I even bought one of your heritage jumpers to wear to training as I love the old strip.
And to finish off where all the stones can be thrown at me - I actually think Barry Halls suspension was 1 week harsher than it deserved but that's just my view on the matter.
Good luck to your team put Wirra and Embley back in and instant force again.
eagledream
15 Apr 2008, 21:53
Having said all that I believe Hall got about what he deserved. He was never going to get 10-14 weeks. Him breaking his hand and not being available for the majoirty of that time makes any ruling below 8 weeks obsolete anyways and that's a tad disappointing but hey. I think we're forgetting that Staker was cleared of any fracture and is hopefully available for selection this weekend. It could have been a much much different story so get well soon Brent.
Alphanumeric
15 Apr 2008, 21:56
You guys have issues hey. He did not get a 25% discount in points. His councel argued that he should, and teh jury was told to take that into consideration. Your hero, ben cousins has done much much more to tarnish the name of the code in Australia... or is that to be long forgotten?
Just curious... if Hally hit Medhurst..or even Jeff Farmer... would this even be an issue? Or would you guys be calling for him to be knighted?
Mate I couldn't give a shit who Hall hit, he got off light.
He should have got 10 weeks whether or not it was a WCE players.
wce4premiership
15 Apr 2008, 21:57
Basically all I am hoping is that Sydney lose all 7 games where Hall is missing.
That would be just nice. :thumbsu:That would definitely make the 7 weeks seem a lot more reasonable.
I think anything under 10 is dissapointing.
EagleMan87
15 Apr 2008, 21:58
Whilst I will never see eye to eye with any of you regarding the severity of the sentence etc.
I am sick of people bringing up drug culture in every argument when it comes to your club. Drugs are not a simple fix issue and they are completely irrelevant to Barry Hall punching someone in a game.
I will defend my team and it's players probably with as much biased passion as I can muster but I will never cheapen my argument trying to bring up off field problems at the West Coast Eagles.
I even bought one of your heritage jumpers to wear to training as I love the old strip.
And to finish off where all the stones can be thrown at me - I actually think Barry Halls suspension was 1 week harsher than it deserved but that's just my view on the matter.
Good luck to your team put Wirra and Embley back in and instant force again.
Cheers mate, always good to have support on this issue:thumbsu:
Good luck to your lot as well, until we meet again that is...
Your hero, ben cousins has done much much more to tarnish the name of the code in Australia... or is that to be long forgotten?
Just curious... if Hally hit Medhurst..or even Jeff Farmer... would this even be an issue? Or would you guys be calling for him to be knighted?
WTF has that to do with Hall being a weak dog and king hitting someone? Or does Cousins mean West Coast is now fair game and anyone belting a Coaster should be let off?
God, no wonder everyone thinks Sydney 'supporters' are either halfwits, ________s or both.
royalsfan
15 Apr 2008, 22:04
Yeah true... it only took them 2 years to do something about it, which is really good. Even though, when Woosha took the coaching job he was told that there were problems of a drug culture through the club.
What a bunch of hypocrites there are at the Swans.
What about the " no ________s" policy - Hall must be the biggest ________ in the game - but I don't see them giving him his marching orders.
I have lost all respect for Roos - if he had any guts at all, he would have taken the ________ from the ground. And then he made matters worse by claiming that he hadn't seen anything.!!
Barry Hall's efforts brought the game into disrepute much more than Ben's.
7 sounds about right to me, he misses our next game v Sydney. If there had of been any serious damage ie a broken jaw it would have been a lot longer. Every team will be at him now trying to wind him up, will be interesting to see how he copes.
Goldfish
15 Apr 2008, 22:13
7 sounds about right to me, he misses our next game v Sydney. If there had of been any serious damage ie a broken jaw it would have been a lot longer. Every team will be at him now trying to wind him up, will be interesting to see how he copes.
Very good point, unfortunately I fear the mental issues Staker will now carry will last longer than the Hall suspension...
Whilst I will never see eye to eye with any of you regarding the severity of the sentence etc.
I am sick of people bringing up drug culture in every argument when it comes to your club. Drugs are not a simple fix issue and they are completely irrelevant to Barry Hall punching someone in a game.
I will defend my team and it's players probably with as much biased passion as I can muster but I will never cheapen my argument trying to bring up off field problems at the West Coast Eagles.
I even bought one of your heritage jumpers to wear to training as I love the old strip.
And to finish off where all the stones can be thrown at me - I actually think Barry Halls suspension was 1 week harsher than it deserved but that's just my view on the matter.
Good luck to your team put Wirra and Embley back in and instant force again.
You were going well til this..... :p
billy the bong
15 Apr 2008, 22:20
Yeah true... it only took them 2 years to do something about it, which is really good. Even though, when Woosha took the coaching job he was told that there were problems of a drug culture through the club.
Was it not a exSydney player who said drugs were a big problem in the AFL
7 is a fair suspension IMO.
West Coast 06
15 Apr 2008, 22:30
7 is a fair suspension IMO.
I think when everyone calms down, you are right.
I heard he got ten weeks reduced by 25% for early guilty plea (although that is a bit of a laugh) and so ended up with seven and 50 points carried over.
I reckon they were going to give him six but then realised he would be back for the next West Coast v Sydney game and added another week for good measure!
jorel6669
15 Apr 2008, 22:37
I'd like to think my mathematics is pretty fair, but isn't 10 weeks reduced to 7 a 30% reduction?
Also, big surprise they gave him just enough weeks to miss the return clash with the Eagles. They know it could have gotten ugly if the meathead turned up at Subi.
West Coast 06
15 Apr 2008, 23:04
1000 points (ten weeks) minus 250 (25%) = 750 or seven weeks and 50 carry over points.
Juddism
15 Apr 2008, 23:24
1000 points (ten weeks) minus 250 (25%) = 750 or seven weeks and 50 carry over points.
pretty sure it was 1053 points minus 250 points with 90 carry over...still a weak decision, should've been 12+...Hall got 5 weeks for leaving McFarlane out of the game for 10 weeks nearly 11 years ago...AFL tribunal hasn't progressed at all.
Chris who
15 Apr 2008, 23:39
Yeah true... it only took them 2 years to do something about it, which is really good. Even though, when Woosha took the coaching job he was told that there were problems of a drug culture through the club.
What happened to dale lewis when he came out about the afl drug culture?
Whilst I will never see eye to eye with any of you regarding the severity of the sentence etc.
I am sick of people bringing up drug culture in every argument when it comes to your club. Drugs are not a simple fix issue and they are completely irrelevant to Barry Hall punching someone in a game.
I will defend my team and it's players probably with as much biased passion as I can muster but I will never cheapen my argument trying to bring up off field problems at the West Coast Eagles.
I even bought one of your heritage jumpers to wear to training as I love the old strip.
And to finish off where all the stones can be thrown at me - I actually think Barry Halls suspension was 1 week harsher than it deserved but that's just my view on the matter.
Good luck to your team put Wirra and Embley back in and instant force again.
Kudos to you.:thumbsu: It's nice to hear an opinion from a swans supporter who has enough grey matter to separate this issue from Ben Cousins.
Blu3_Boy
15 Apr 2008, 23:53
WTF? 25% off because he pleads guilty! How piss weak is that, was he going to plead not guilty? Make the 7 weeks start when his limp wrist has healed.
He's a piss weak DOG! there's no room for scummers like him in the AFL! not a good thing to do!:thumbsd:
Keyser Soze
16 Apr 2008, 00:44
seven weeks was fair, i have no gripe with it.
Thought he'd get 6 to be honest.
Scotland
16 Apr 2008, 00:59
7 weeks is a piss weak suspension for a king hit behind play.
That being said, if the tribunal deem that Hall's action warrants a 7 week suspension, then they better bloody well give the next person that does it the same penalty. This suspension will have zero effect in deterring other players from doing the same, and the tribunal has to wear that. They had the opportunity to send a very strong message, and they chose not to.
That would definitely make the 7 weeks seem a lot more reasonable.
I think anything under 10 is dissapointing.
Its not really wish bad things on a team for one player's actions.
As a whole, I respect Sydney.
Barry Hall is nitwit (I said nitwit. Hahaha) and we know that.
At least he took it on the chin (not like he had much of a choice though).
7 weeks is a fair knock Scotland. Don't think too many players will take the chance.
How can you plead guilty when it goes straight to the tribunal? Pleading guilty is meant to avoid a tribunal hearing. I thouht there was no discounting once you get over a certain number of points which goes straight to the tribunal.
flyinghi64
16 Apr 2008, 10:46
Typically ridiculous, but honestly did anyone really think justice would prevail. If the tribunal, AFL and match review panel were serious they would have also cited Hall on his strike to Kerr. This was completely swept under the carpet:confused:
eagles06
16 Apr 2008, 17:32
Yeah, you're right. Unfortunately skill is hard to let go of, even when it's attached to an idiot.
Half the West Coast supporters in Australia would gladly take Benny back, I'd stake my house on it.
Still, we're getting off topic; we were talking about Barry Hall and his suspension. Well, I think it's ok, I doubt he'll ever pull something like that again, either that or he's a bigger dick than I thought.
I think you would be likely to lose it then. My view is that we have a young list thats developing and we don't need his problems around.
Onto the Hall thing, I was thinking 8 weeks but it should have been 10, anyway theres no point arguing about, it done, we need to move on and worry about Sunday.
portrules36
16 Apr 2008, 17:43
I think barry got fair enough punishment but have to admit what a classic moment in that game, absolutely brilliant KO lol pity it wasn't one of the better eagles players
bzparkes
16 Apr 2008, 17:45
At least he took it on the chin (not like he had much of a choice though).
Are you talking about Staker?:confused:
:rolleyes:
sydney eagle
16 Apr 2008, 17:47
Seven weeks is more than I expected him to get. Remember Swans players are a protected species in the AFL, but I guess this particular bit of thuggery was too blatent for the AFL to ignore.
Scotland
16 Apr 2008, 18:05
7 weeks is a fair knock Scotland. Don't think too many players will take the chance.
Time will tell.
You cop 6 weeks for bumping someone in the head in play. If belting someone behind play is worth just one week more, it's naive to think some players won't consider it.
who gives a
16 Apr 2008, 18:18
You guys have issues hey. He did not get a 25% discount in points. His councel argued that he should, and teh jury was told to take that into consideration. Your hero, ben cousins has done much much more to tarnish the name of the code in Australia... or is that to be long forgotten?
Just curious... if Hally hit Medhurst..or even Jeff Farmer... would this even be an issue? Or would you guys be calling for him to be knighted?
As long as it was within the rules then fine but to smash someone like that is just being a COWARD that he is:thumbsd: