scarlett vs glass

[geelong_crazy26]

who's the best fullback in the AFL ?

[Claude Balls]

Two votes to nil in Scarlett's favour... GC, what's your other account?!

[Quinz]

This poll gets done pretty much every month. Scarlett at the moment.

[Power King]

convenient time to make the poll.....

[vinnie_vegas69]

Scarlett now. Scarlett last year. Scarlett the year before that.

When people start talking up guys like Glass and Rutten, it's just because they're temporarily matching what Scarlett has been for 5-6 years now.

Scarlett is a better player than Steven Silvagni was, which apparently makes him the best fullback of all time :rolleyes:

[Lynch takes a mark]

Scarlett is a complete defender

- rebounding
- lock down on any opponent
- loose man across half back

Glass has great all round defensive ability, 1 on 1 not many would match him but his lack of any offensive ability makes him a fair way down from Scarlett as an overall player.

FWIW Matt Spangher is a CLONE of the current Scarlett, even the hair is similar (better kept any way)

15+ beep test, terrific kicking skills running from defence and continually runs with the ball from the back line. Also a very desperate spoiler (Max Hudgeton levels of desperation) will be a fantastic defender once he fills out a little more and develops that body strength that usually comes on around 23-25 for a defender.

[Big Nasty]

Scarlett now. Scarlett last year. Scarlett the year before that.

When people start talking up guys like Glass and Rutten, it's just because they're temporarily matching what Scarlett has been for 5-6 years now.

Scarlett is a better player than Steven Silvagni was, which apparently makes him the best fullback of all time :rolleyes:
Well said mate. :thumbsu: I just hope when his career has ended that he gets the recognition he deserves.

[Johnny_Segment]

Scarlett now. Scarlett last year. Scarlett the year before that.

When people start talking up guys like Glass and Rutten, it's just because they're temporarily matching what Scarlett has been for 5-6 years now.

Scarlett is a better player than Steven Silvagni was, which apparently makes him the best fullback of all time :rolleyes:

My mouse was hovering over Scarlett until I read this. So now Glass gets my vote.

[midorigreenwood]

meh, should've made it public so that we can see whether its neutrals votings or biased folk....

like me ;)

[Last Line Hero]

convenient time to make the poll.....

Any time for the past 6-7 years would have been convinient

[BABYBOMBERS2007]

I perfer Glass.

[Magpie Magic]

I reckon Scarlett's slightly better. He's able to shut down his opponent and rebound at the same time. Glass is probably a better shut down defender, but the rebounding aspect of Scarlett's gets my vote.

[Last Line Hero]

I reckon Scarlett's slightly better. He's able to shut down his opponent and rebound at the same time. Glass is probably a better shut down defender, but the rebounding aspect of Scarlett's gets my vote.

Nah, he isn't actually.

[tin can sam]

I still theink the real question is Brown vs Pavlich

maybe even Buckley vs Hird vs Voss

[anti.]

Glass > Scarlett in terms of defending 1 on 1 and just in general contests
Scarlett > Glass in general play, ball use etc etc.

i voted for glass because hes a west coast player (and hes better).

[Shane_Mag]

Scarlett for me

[catburr]

SCATTY SCATTY SCATTY the best by far!

[Last Line Hero]

Glass > Scarlett in terms of defending 1 on 1 and just in general contests
Scarlett > Glass in general play, ball use etc etc.

i voted for glass because hes a west coast player (and hes better).

If Glass was a better defender 1-on-1 he'd concede less goals. Simple as that. AND HE DOESN'T GET ANYWHERE NEAR SCARLETT IN THIS CATEGORY AND NEVER HAS.

Don't say Glass is a better defender simply because that's all he does. There is nothing else you can judge him on. Scarlett is THE best stopper in the AFL.

[Joe Czak]

Scarlett now. Scarlett last year. Scarlett the year before that.

When people start talking up guys like Glass and Rutten, it's just because they're temporarily matching what Scarlett has been for 5-6 years now.

Scarlett is a better player than Steven Silvagni was, which apparently makes him the best fullback of all time :rolleyes:

Hard comparing players from different eras. Not sure how Scarlett would fair lining up against Ablett, Locket, Dunstall, Carey, to a lesser extent Jakovich, and Modra as well as current players in Llyod and Richo. I have a feeling the first 4 maybe 5 would push him around like a skinny kid.

Silvagni also had the ability to go forward Scarlett can´t do that and be successful.

[Last Line Hero]

Hard comparing players from different eras. Not sure how Scarlett would fair lining up against Ablett, Locket, Dunstall, Carey, to a lesser extent Jakovich, and Modra as well as current players in Llyod and Richo. I have a feeling the first 4 maybe 5 would push him around like a skinny kid.

Silvagni also had the ability to go forward Scarlett can´t do that and be successful.

Scarlett and Silvagni have almost exactly the same physical attributes, and both are incredibly smart and wily defenders who use much more than just brawn to beat their opponents, and yet you say Scarlett would get thrown around? Rediculous.

Completely different eras and I agree with you that it is a frivilous endeavour trying to compare them, but Scarlett would be fine in any era, he's a champion full- back and is regarded as such for very good reason.

What you've said is the equivalent of Silvagni struggling nowdays because he'd give away 100 frees a game. If he used the same tactics then yes he would, but he was a great defender and would adapt accordingly.

You say Scarlett CAN'T go forward. Scarlett is seldom given the chance whilst Silvagni would play a handful of games every year at FF. In fact whenever I have seen Scarlo go forward, for a quarter or two he kicks goals. I've always said I'd love to see him play a bit in attack in his last years, because he could be like a SOS in that regard.

Why would you say Scarlett has struggled against Lloyd and Richo? This topped it off; I don't think you've seen Scarlett play much if at all.

[tin can sam]

Scarlett can't go forward because he's a terrible set shot for goal.

He'd be kicking 2.5 on a regular basis.

[davey_magik]

Glass > Scarlett in terms of defending 1 on 1 and just in general contests
Scarlett > Glass in general play, ball use etc etc.

i voted for glass because hes a west coast player (and hes better).

Agree 100%. Glass is a better stopper, but Scarlett gives plenty of rebound.

[Metallica_Man]

Scarlett has only conceded 2 or 3 goals this year so far, 1 against Neitz and 1 or 2 against Tredrea, would be interesting to see this compared to Glass and other full backs

[Last Line Hero]

Scarlett has only conceded 2 or 3 goals this year so far, 1 against Neitz and 1 or 2 against Tredrea, would be interesting to see this compared to Glass and other full backs

Scarlett, by my count, has conceded 5 goals from 5 games. 1,0,1,2,1 and been dominant. Once again noone has conceded less for FB's who have played as many games.

Glass from his 4 games conceded 13. 5,3,4,1, and played terribly.

[Mighty Eagles]

this poll should be closed to geelong and west coast fans

[tin can sam]

Scarlett, by my count, has conceded 5 goals from 5 games. 1,0,1,2,1 and been dominant. Once again noone has conceded less for FB's who have played as many games.

Glass from his 4 games conceded 13. 5,3,4,1, and played terribly.

I've got Scarlett at 3.

1, 0, 1, 1, 0

1 to Gehirg
1 to Tredrae
and 1 to Neitz

[Metallica_Man]

I've got Scarlett at 3.

1, 0, 1, 1, 0

1 to Gehirg
1 to Tredrae
and 1 to Neitz
Ahh yea, forgot the one against Gehrig, was a pretty meaningless goal though with just about no minutes to go
Held Lloyd and O'Loughlin goal less, and Tredrea kicked (but I'm not sure how long Scarlett was on him) and Neitz kicked 1

[Last Line Hero]

I've got Scarlett at 3.

1, 0, 1, 1, 0

1 to Gehirg
1 to Tredrae
and 1 to Neitz

Ahh yea, forgot the one against Gehrig, was a pretty meaningless goal though with just about no minutes to go
Held Lloyd and O'Loughlin goal less, and Tredrea kicked (but I'm not sure how long Scarlett was on him) and Neitz kicked 1

No.

Westhoff got 1 in the 4th quarter Round 1, that gather and snap after Scarlo overran the ball. Both Tredrea's goals were when he was on Milburn and Harley.

Lloyd had none.

Nietz got that 1 on the run from 40 in the 1st 10 minutes of Round 3. Scarlett went in to help out in a pack situation and Nietz hung out and got a cheap handball.

Scarlett gave up 2 to Gerhig on the day. One from a lace out pass from Goddard to begin the 3rd quarter and the other after the final siren when Scarlett had to attack the ball carrier and Gerhig collected a dinky mark.

Scarlett was briefly moved on to Barlow yesterday, and 1 of his 2 goals was on Scarlett. Both ran into the centre of the ground, and Barlow charged back into the forward 50, and got a handball from O' Loughlin. Scarlett didn't show enough respect.

So that's 1,0,1,2,1.

[tin can sam]

No.

Westhoff got 1 in the 4th quarter Round 1, that gather and snap after Scarlo overran the ball. Both Tredrea's goals were when he was on Milburn and Harley.

Lloyd had none.

Nietz got that 1 on the run from 40 in the 1st 10 minutes of Round 3. Scarlett went in to help out in a pack situation and Nietz hung out and got a cheap handball.

Scarlett gave up 2 to Gerhig on the day. One from a lace out pass from Goddard to begin the 3rd quarter and the other after the final siren when Scarlett had to attack the ball carrier and Gerhig collected a dinky mark.

Scarlett was briefly moved on to Barlow yesterday, and 1 of his 2 goals was on Scarlett. Both ran into the centre of the ground, and Barlow charged back into the forward 50, and got a handball from O' Loughlin. Scarlett didn't show enough respect.

So that's 1,0,1,2,1.

Scarlett was on Kosi in the last quarter, I thought Gehrig kicked his 2nd on Milburn.

[Last Line Hero]

Scarlett was on Kosi in the last quarter, I thought Gehrig kicked his 2nd on Milburn.

He was to start with but Gerhig came back on late went Kosi went to the ruck.

[Gods_Son23]

you cant really compare the better full back on goals kicked against when one team is on top and the other is on the bottom. more inside 50s, worse midfield defensive pressure etc. last yr when both were on the top it was a much better comparison if you are going to say who is the better full back.

[Southerntakeover]

who's the best fullback in the AFL ?

Rutten.

[Joe Czak]

Scarlett and Silvagni have almost exactly the same physical attributes, and both are incredibly smart and wily defenders who use much more than just brawn to beat their opponents, and yet you say Scarlett would get thrown around? Rediculous.

Completely different eras and I agree with you that it is a frivilous endeavour trying to compare them, but Scarlett would be fine in any era, he's a champion full- back and is regarded as such for very good reason.

What you've said is the equivalent of Silvagni struggling nowdays because he'd give away 100 frees a game. If he used the same tactics then yes he would, but he was a great defender and would adapt accordingly.

You say Scarlett CAN'T go forward. Scarlett is seldom given the chance whilst Silvagni would play a handful of games every year at FF. In fact whenever I have seen Scarlo go forward, for a quarter or two he kicks goals. I've always said I'd love to see him play a bit in attack in his last years, because he could be like a SOS in that regard.

Why would you say Scarlett has struggled against Lloyd and Richo? This topped it off; I don't think you've seen Scarlett play much if at all.

A couple of things;

-On Scarlett going forward:

Scarlett can't go forward because he's a terrible set shot for goal.

He'd be kicking 2.5 on a regular basis.

-Didn't actually say this, have another read;

Why would you say Scarlett has struggled against Lloyd and Richo?

I obvisiously haven't seen him play as much as you, but then again it sounds as if you're either stalking him or his mother.

Look mate, I never said he wasn't a great full back, I was just responding to a clown who said he was the best of all time.

[Big Nasty]

A couple of things;

-On Scarlett going forward:

Scarlett can't go forward because he's a terrible set shot for goal.

He'd be kicking 2.5 on a regular basis.

-Didn't actually say this, have another read;

Why would you say Scarlett has struggled against Lloyd and Richo?

I obvisiously haven't seen him play as much as you, but then again it sounds as if you're either stalking him or his mother.

Look mate, I never said he wasn't a great full back, I was just responding to a clown who said he was the best of all time.
When Scarletts career is finished, he will be regarded as one of the best full backs ever. And rightfully so.

[Last Line Hero]

A couple of things;

-On Scarlett going forward:

Scarlett can't go forward because he's a terrible set shot for goal.

He'd be kicking 2.5 on a regular basis.

-Didn't actually say this, have another read;

Why would you say Scarlett has struggled against Lloyd and Richo?

I obvisiously haven't seen him play as much as you, but then again it sounds as if you're either stalking him or his mother.

Look mate, I never said he wasn't a great full back, I was just responding to a clown who said he was the best of all time.

So I'm stalking him because I can back up what I say with facts and know how good a player he is?

...pffft... well done.

Next time just don't post when you have no clue what you're saying.

[Last Line Hero]

you cant really compare the better full back on goals kicked against when one team is on top and the other is on the bottom. more inside 50s, worse midfield defensive pressure etc. last yr when both were on the top it was a much better comparison if you are going to say who is the better full back.

Scarlett conceded less goals last year, and the year before that, and the year before that, and the year before that and the year before that. Not just less but many less. (Grab a copy of the AFL Prospectus).

As I've said on other threads. Scarlett built his name is terrible Geelong outfits and became a superstar, made Geelong the team it is today. Great defenders can stand up under pressure. If Glass can't handle the heat of playing in an average side then he isn't as good as he's made out to be, plain and simple.

[vinnie_vegas69]

Look mate, I never said he wasn't a great full back, I was just responding to a clown who said he was the best of all time.
I didn't say he was the best of all time. I said he was as close to being the best of all time as Steven Silvagni.

Jack Regan, David Dench and Geoff Southby are waving at them from the true top.

[geelong_crazy26]

people need to also remember that scarlett was AA in a geelong side that didnt make the finals.so far glass has only done well in good sides.

[thebirdman 24]

Id vote for scarlett, much more upside, but after that the best fullback would have to be Rutten over Glass surely.

[Big Nasty]

Id vote for scarlett, much more upside, but after that the best fullback would have to be Rutten over Glass surely.
I have always rated Rutten & Glass even in one on one contests.
However with that said, Rutten is a lot better than Glass in Setting up attack from defence.