Didak v Stokes

[fevalenko]

Whos the better player???

Alan Didak

or

Matthew Stokes

pretty simple

who would u rather???

[betterthanu]

Didak by 50 miles

[Kaiser Powser]

Probably Didak. Stokes is a little gem, but great teams have the ability of making players seem like they are better than they are. If he played for the Dees he may well be an inknown IMO.

[Team Mo']

pretty simple..didak...

[robertg22]

Thread is insulting to Didak.... closer would be Davis vs Stokes and Stokes is still behind in that one too.

[Metallica_Man]

Thread is insulting to Didak.... closer would be Davis vs Stokes and Stokes is still behind in that one too.
Lol...:)

[TRAVCLOKE#32]

Can't go past the man with the smartest feet in the AFL

[Pie In Da Sky]

its like saying who would u rather... sav rocca or gary ablett come on mate be serious

[Metallica_Man]

Can't go past the man with the smartest feet in the AFL
Steve Johnson not in this poll though?:confused:

[delirious1]

closer would be Davis vs Stokes and Stokes is still behind in that one too.
Didak>>>Stokes>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(and them some more
>>>Davis

[anti.]

didak just.

stokes is a bloody good player but.

[didak04]

better question would be didak or steve johnson. Didak is ahead of stokes currently, Stokes' game has gone up a level this season though

[lamaros]

Didak is way overrated, but he's still better than Stokes. Stokes is your classic average player who's made to look much better by being surrounded by stars.

[fevalenko]

its like saying who would u rather... sav rocca or gary ablett come on mate be serious

man u need 2 get a grip on life

it is a simple thread

no need 2 b a wanker about the situation

didak or stokes... id take didak easily but i put this poll up 2 shut up some ______ mate of mine

[BABYBOMBERS2007]

Didak is easily better. He is an AA.

[geelong_crazy26]

stokes by a long way ,champion premiership player that kicked 3 goals in the first quarter of last years preliminary final. didak is not in the same league as stokes.

[scottydeewah]

Didak, but he hasnt become the player he threatened too before his injury.

[ant22]

Didak, but he hasnt become the player he threatened too before his injury.

AA 2 years ago. Recovered from a knee reco and took most of last season to find form and then was very close to our best player in the finals. Has been close to our best player this year along with shaw and swan and IMO in career best form(better than the year he got AA)
I'd say he is now the player he threatened too be and will probably get better.

[Magpie Magic]

Didak is a level above stokes imo. Although I do think Stokes is a good solid player.

[Jeremias]

Both are good players, but Didak is clearly better.

Even though I hate the ____er, at his best, he is much better than Stokes.

[RandB]

Stokes

[Metallica_Man]

Stokes today: 14 kicks, 7 handballs, 21 touches, 8 marks, 4 goals

[Chaz Pendlebury]

stokes by a long way ,champion premiership player that kicked 3 goals in the first quarter of last years preliminary final. didak is not in the same league as stokes.

Yep, checks out. He's crazy

[tima]

Stokes today: 14 kicks, 7 handballs, 21 touches, 8 marks, 4 goals

not bad from Stokesy. Had a good game a couple of weeks back against Essendon too - 31 touches, 13 marks, 2 goals.

Didak for me, but it is interesting comparing their stats averages...

Didak (08)
Disposals 22.2, Marks 6.6, Tackles 1.4, Goals 1.4
Stokes (08)
Disposals 20.4, Marks 8.4, Tackles 1.0, Goals 2.4

Didak (Career)
Disposals 12.9, Marks 4.0, Tackles 1.6, Goals 1.4
Stokes (Career)
Disposals 16.4, Marks 5.8, Tackles 2.5, Goals 1.5

[smiddaz123]

If Didak played for Geelong he'd be dominating more than Stokes.

[jonesy86]

it's too early to tell how good Stokes is as he is playing in one of the best teams of the past 25yrs...for all we know he could be another Des Headland

Didak this year has stepped up into the midfield and is back to career best form

[geelong_crazy26]

If Didak played for Geelong he'd be dominating more than Stokes.

if didak played for geelong they wouldnt be as good a side, and collingwood would be a better side because they have stokes.

[hellfire]

if didak played for geelong they wouldnt be as good a side, and collingwood would be a better side because they have stokes.

...Wow. I laughed pretty hard at that.

[Gyroscope_182]

Stokes is a premiership player.

He is better than Nathan Buckley, Robert Harvey, Scott West and Bob Skilton

[tin can sam]

Stokes is a premiership player.

He is better than Nathan Buckley, Robert Harvey, Scott West and Bob Skilton

and Gary Ablett

(thought I'd get in before somebody else did)

[Asty]

Whos the better player???

Alan Didak

or

Matthew Stokes

pretty simple

who would u rather???

2 different questions.

Didak is currently the better player. (has more ability to tear the game apart single handed than stokes)

I would probably rather stokes though as I think does more of the team things and displays a better attitude while also getting plenty of it.

[smiddaz123]

2 different questions.

Didak is currently the better player. (has more ability to tear the game apart single handed than stokes)

I would probably rather stokes though as I think does more of the team things and displays a better attitude while also getting plenty of it.
You're just spouting random facts and hoping they're true.

Didak's been one of the top for goal assists in recent years. What are you basing it on that he doesn't do team things?

[lynchy23]

Thread is insulting to Didak.... closer would be Davis vs Stokes and Stokes is still behind in that one too.

ur a moron, watch a geelong game this year seriously! MORON!

[lynchy23]

if didak played for geelong they wouldnt be as good a side, and collingwood would be a better side because they have stokes.


stokes gets alot of the footy for a team that has alot of bigger name type players. ur not a good player just becuase u play for a good side lol shannon byrnes for example

[geelong_crazy26]

stokes gets alot of the footy for a team that has alot of bigger name type players. ur not a good player just becuase u play for a good side lol shannon byrnes for example

I agree, people on this site take that playing in the best side thing to far.The reason why geelong is the best is because they have the best players.How good have geelong made byrnes look ?

[hellfire]

ur a moron, watch a geelong game this year seriously! MORON!

Stokes is a very good player, but I think Davis is a better comparison too. Maybe if you watched Collingwood this year, you would realise how good HE has been.

[daffo]

Didak by a mile. Stokes has played great this year, (his set shots are pretty damn good), but his a good player in a bad side, and from what i've seen, he'll be a bad player in a bad side. If he was playing at Melbourne or Essendon at the moment he would touch the ball 3-5 times and would be dropped in a week.
Didak is a star, but you shouldn't rate them coz of the age difference.

[Lunchlady Doris]

Didak by a mile. Stokes has played great this year, (his set shots are pretty damn good), but his a good player in a bad side, and from what i've seen, he'll be a bad player in a bad side. If he was playing at Melbourne or Essendon at the moment he would touch the ball 3-5 times and would be dropped in a week.
Didak is a star, but you shouldn't rate them coz of the age difference.

Completely baseless drivel.

[Claude Balls]

Stokes is a very good player, but I think Davis is a better comparison too. Maybe if you watched Collingwood this year, you would realise how good HE has been.

Davis has certainly been good this year, however the other Collingwood supporter was some way off the mark with his assertion that Stokes trails him, in addition to Didak.

Didak is a more complete than Stokes at this point, given that he is a more accomplished midfielder, though I'm not convinced that he could play Stokes' role as a forward and pinch hitting midfielder any better than Stokes himself, even if he played for Geelong.

Whatever, I concede that Didak is better in the general sense of the word.


Didak by a mile. Stokes has played great this year, (his set shots are pretty damn good), but his a good player in a bad side, and from what i've seen, he'll be a bad player in a bad side. If he was playing at Melbourne or Essendon at the moment he would touch the ball 3-5 times and would be dropped in a week.
Didak is a star, but you shouldn't rate them coz of the age difference.

It is a shame ill considered halfwits like this are so prevalent on BigFooty. The proportion of intelligent, measured posters seems almost to dwindle by the week. If Stokes was playing at Melbourne, he would be your best performed player this year. The common conception that good players are only thus because they play in a good team is complete bullshit.

[hellfire]

Davis has certainly been good this year, however the other Collingwood supporter was some way off the mark with his assertion that Stokes trails him, in addition to Didak.

Didak is a more complete than Stokes at this point, given that he is a more accomplished midfielder, though I'm not convinced that he could play Stokes' role as a forward and pinch hitting midfielder any better than Stokes himself, even if he played for Geelong.

Whatever, I concede that Didak is better in the general sense of the word.



Yeah Stokes would probably slightly ahead of Davis in 2008. Looking at their stats - Stokes averages 4.2 more disposals, 0.8 more goals, 4.6 more marks.

Davis averages 0.8 more tackles, 0.8 more 1%ers, 2.2 less errors, 2.8 more clearances.

The prowess ranking (which takes into account "context of the game and the result") on pro-stats has Davis ahead by 0.2, which is basically negligible. So from that we could say they're even. Didak is about 3 points above them both, which is interesting, because last week he was on 59, which means he's dropped 3 after what was arguably a BOG performance (save for his brain-fade shot on goal).

Comparing Didak and Stokes this year:

Didak averages 2.4 more disposals, 0.8 more first possessions, 3.2 more clearances, 1.8 more inside 50s, 1.2 more 1%ers.

Stokes averages 2.2 more marks, 1.2 more tackles, 1 more goal, 1.2 more rebound 50s.

It's pretty clear from that stats the Didak spent a bit more time in the engine room, as has Davis, but Stokes has been better on the scoreboard than both.

I'm of the opinion that playing in a very good team is a very slight advantage, because generally the delivery is better, AND given the amount of times Geelong handballs, there are easy disposals available. However, you could also argue that given the greater quality around the players, it may reduce how much they get the ball. Tough to say.

[lynchy23]

Didak by a mile. Stokes has played great this year, (his set shots are pretty damn good), but his a good player in a bad side, and from what i've seen, he'll be a bad player in a bad side. If he was playing at Melbourne or Essendon at the moment he would touch the ball 3-5 times and would be dropped in a week.
Didak is a star, but you shouldn't rate them coz of the age difference.

dont shame essendon supporters anymore please

[lynchy23]

sorry double message read below

[lynchy23]

Stokes is a very good player, but I think Davis is a better comparison too. Maybe if you watched Collingwood this year, you would realise how good HE has been.

i have buddy, i watch 6 games a week. i miss out on 1 on sat night and 1 sunday arvo. stokes better player this year by a mile. he ability to find space in a magnicifent team is awesome

[robertg22]

Davis has certainly been good this year, however the other Collingwood supporter was some way off the mark with his assertion that Stokes trails him, in addition to Didak.

Didak is a more complete than Stokes at this point, given that he is a more accomplished midfielder, though I'm not convinced that he could play Stokes' role as a forward and pinch hitting midfielder any better than Stokes himself, even if he played for Geelong.

Whatever, I concede that Didak is better in the general sense of the word.



Yeah look you're right about Davis v Stokes. Leon's development over the last two seasons has been phenomenal - I am happy to concede that there's not a great deal between him and Stokes, if not slightly in favour of Stokes.
It is close though, as much as the well informed Essendon supporter wouldn't like to think so.
Didak's clearly better than Stokes though, he's now starting to become a midfielder in the true sense of the word (rotating on the HFF but his endurance is improving). He's leading the competition in kicks & I can only see him getting better.

[lynchy23]

Yeah look you're right about Davis v Stokes. Leon's development over the last two seasons has been phenomenal - I am happy to concede that there's not a great deal between him and Stokes, if not slightly in favour of Stokes.
It is close though, as much as the well informed Essendon supporter wouldn't like to think so.
Didak's clearly better than Stokes though, he's now starting to become a midfielder in the true sense of the word (rotating on the HFF but his endurance is improving). He's leading the competition in kicks & I can only see him getting better.

have u watch a cats game this year?

[croady_fan24]

Didak.

[hellfire]

have u watch a cats game this year?

Have you watched a Pies game without your tainted glasses on?

The poll speaks for itself.

[robertg22]

have u watch a cats game this year?

Sydney, St Kilda, Essendon & Port Games.. didnt bother with the Melbourne game.

[ad4eva]

Didak.

Stokes is a very good player but just not the same class as Didak.

Stokes has lifted his game to another level but so has Didak this year. He would be close to averaging Mid to Low 20 touches a game this season along with slotting some important goals.

[hellfire]

Didak is leading the league in kicks and 8th in the league for clearances. He's clearly a midfielder this year, so the comparison is hardly valid anymore.

[Palmer Stoat]

Didak by a loooooong way.