Dangerfield to Debut

[jumpman5]

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Patrick Dangefield on standby for Adelaide Crows debut

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PATRICK Dangerfield's AFL career is poised to begin this Saturday.

Adelaide's first-round draft pick is looming as the replacement for Bryce Campbell, should the rugged midfielder not recover from his ankle injury suffered against Hawthorn at the weekend.

Dangerfield - together with fellow 2007 draftee Jarrhan Jacky - travelled with the Crows to Launceston to experience the preparation for an AFL game.

Despite Dangerfield staying in Melbourne after the match at Aurora Stadium, the Crows won't hesitate to blood the speedy 18-year-old against Fremantle at AAMI Stadium.

"At the end of the day, if we need him to play he will play," Adelaide operations manager John Reid said of Dangerfield, who was named in the 25-man squad last week.

"He would have to be in the mix.

"I don't think there will be anybody coming back from injury this week so he'll obviously be around the mark along with Andy Otten and Jarrhan Jacky.

"It will obviously depend on injuries so we won't know more about it until later in the week."

Reid confirmed that Dangerfield's observation of the Crows' pre-match routine was of great benefit on Sunday, with the youngster jumping out of his skin to play on matchday.

"Talking to him (Dangerfield) he found it really interesting," Reid said. "He was quite excited, even though he wasn't playing, just to be involved in the whole thing.

"It is a different process to doing it at home so he found it really helpful."

Soaking up such an experience will also give Adelaide more confidence in selecting Dangerfield to face the Dockers.

"You can't do it all the time because the main thing is for them to play games," Reid said.

"(But) sometimes it works out well and you can actually do it.

"All of a sudden, instead of being a kid in the lolly shop, well, he's already bought the lollies and he's got an idea of what to expect.

"He's still going to be excited about it but it's been a good opportunity to experience it.

"It's like anything, if you get a bit of a trial run on most things it helps you, doesn't it?"

After studying Nathan Bassett's report of striking Hawk Rick Ladson, Adelaide chose not to contest the charge and accepted a reprimand.

Bassett will receive 60 points toward his future record but is available to play against the Dockers. "We weren't far away from defending it. It was a bit of a line-ball one," Reid confirmed.

"He wouldn't have got a game (suspension), it would have just been his points but in the end we didn't opt to go that way."
Source: (http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/sport/afl/story/0,26547,23547436-5014664,00.html)


couldn't be more excited...

[thebirdman 24]

couldn't be more excited...

couldnt agree more...

[fightingdreamer88]

We know all too well how conservative the club is; I wouldn't get my hopes up.

[Geoffa32]

If he does not happy. I wont be there (Dont worry Craigy my tickets are being used), but if the club gives him two game I will be at the G.

[jo172]

I'm quite certain we already went through this last week!:p

[deaneus]

Damn!! got a mate's wedding and can't attend.

Would be nice to see. He'll get a roar when he comes on.

[starskyCrow87]

would love to see Dangerfield make his debut this week!:D

its a good a time as any as in a couple of weeks we should (barring no more injuries) have our best midfield back in action when reilly and knights return.

But based on form over the past few weeks shouldn't Andy Otten be given a call up first out of between himself and Dangerfield? Unless they're thinking Dangerfield due to his sheer pace...

and on a side note... is anyone else worried that by all this extra going back and forth between Adelaide and Geelong (he's not on holidays anymore atm) will be detrimental towards his studies? would hate to see him fail due to all thats on his plate, not only for his own future but if he did fail would there be a chance he could resent Adelaide for making him do all this back and forth stuff?

[crowsup]

I have heard on 5AA that he will be at the Crows' tavern on Thursday, and talk about the game against Freo.

Unless it was a mistake on my part or on 5AA's part, I don't see any other reason for the AFC to bring him over from Melbourne on Thursday.
Maybe we will see him play on Saturday. If he does, I'll be seeing him in person because I'll be at the game.:):cool:

(I have just posted this on the Dangerfield thread so I thought I would copy it over here):o

[jo172]

and on a side note... is anyone else worried that by all this extra going back and forth between Adelaide and Geelong (he's not on holidays anymore atm) will be detrimental towards his studies? would hate to see him fail due to all thats on his plate, not only for his own future but if he did fail would there be a chance he could resent Adelaide for making him do all this back and forth stuff?

Crow*Girl board:p

[afccomau]

I have heard on 5AA that he will be at the Crows' tavern on Thursday, and talk about the game against Freo.

Unless it was a mistake on my part or on 5AA's part, I don't see any other reason for the AFC to bring him over from Melbourne on Thursday.
Maybe we will see him play on Saturday. If he does, I'll be seeing him in person because I'll be at the game.:):cool:

(I have just posted this on the Dangerfield thread so I thought I would copy it over here):o

He's not at the Tavern - that ad was incorrect.

[James_37]

Gettin a little sense of dejavu here, but still excited all the same and wouldn't Rooch be happy, 2 articles for the price of one, the way this is going he can keep roling out the same article on Dangerfield all year:D As for his school, if he were to debut this year, which was totally unexpected, then now would be a much better time to do it than say August, still plenty of time to catch up. And lets face it, whilst i don't know what his assignments etc. he might need to be doing, but with respect to exams, most of thats learnt a week, or if your like me last night/morning before the exam, and whilst doing some work at that stage of the year might help, its not vital I wouldn't say.

Edit: actually Zac Milbank wrote this one, but I'm sure rooch won't do him for copyright.

P.S. Just looking at the picture with the OP... Could he tuck that jumper in anymore and pull those shorts up even higher? Maybe he's sick of that deep voice of his.

[macca23]

Good luck to the lad if he does play this week.

Part of me really wants to see him play this week while the other part says its a huge ask for a young lad of his age to debut at AFL level when he isn't living here, can't train with the team each week, and would be down on fitness compared to the rest of the team.

Still, if he can perform under these adverse conditions we know we have something special for when he can play under favourable conditions.

It'll be interesting to see what the club does, because they know much better than us whether he's ready or not.

[crowsup]

He's not at the Tavern - that ad was incorrect.

Thanks for clarifying.:thumbsu: I knew it was too good to be true.:(
Still. I personally think it would be too early for Pat to debut. Unless it is absolutely critical.

[whitey_1975]

I'll be stoked if he debuts as ill be there. Suite 1 here we come:thumbsu::)

[crowzac]

BE GOOD TO SEE HIM PLAY

[crowzac]

Be There To See Him If He Plays

[jenny61_99]

The heading should read: Dangerfield to Debut IF Bryce Campbell doesn't come up AND IF they don't pick Jacky or Otten ahead of him! ;)

[tiggsy]

Personally I'd rather see Otten debut as he has form in the SANFL and is somebody who can contribute this year. I'd hate to see Dangerfield debut just to answer critics regarding the decision to draft him ahead of Ebert. We have the rest of his career to prove whether that was the right decision or not. Still, having watched some of Dangerfield's highlights, I am looking forward to seeing him play, whenever that may be.

[Campbell's Chunky]

Did I just hear something scream past at Mach 2.0?

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[doppelganger47]

^if he debuts, would love to see some banners welcoming him...
would love to see Dangerfield make his debut this week!:D

its a good a time as any as in a couple of weeks we should (barring no more injuries) have our best midfield back in action when reilly and knights return.

But based on form over the past few weeks shouldn't Andy Otten be given a call up first out of between himself and Dangerfield? Unless they're thinking Dangerfield due to his sheer pace...

and on a side note... is anyone else worried that by all this extra going back and forth between Adelaide and Geelong (he's not on holidays anymore atm) will be detrimental towards his studies? would hate to see him fail due to all thats on his plate, not only for his own future but if he did fail would there be a chance he could resent Adelaide for making him do all this back and forth stuff?well, he's the one who wanted to apply for the draft while still in school - i.e, they just want the money, because they know they're going to focus on their studies more; and personally, i think failing year 12 is pretty hard to do, so i doubt he'd fail, because of some lost weekends, where he gets to play the game he loves. unless, he's trying to get into a course like med or dent...which i doubt.

Personally I'd rather see Otten debut as he has form in the SANFL and is somebody who can contribute this year. I'd hate to see Dangerfield debut just to answer critics regarding the decision to draft him ahead of Ebert. We have the rest of his career to prove whether that was the right decision or not. Still, having watched some of Dangerfield's highlights, I am looking forward to seeing him play, whenever that may be.based on form, yes, Otten seems like the likely choice, but personally, i think Danger's body is more AFL ready than Otten's.

[glengowan]

He's the greatest
He's fantastic
Wherever there is danger he'll be there
Dangerfield (amazing)
Dangerfield (astounding)
DANGERFIIIEELLD

[Big future]

Yep, play him this weekend! We need his pace and strength while Riley, Knights, Massey and Jericho are out injured. It gets the debut out of the way so he can concentrate on study. If there are injuries around finals time:) (I'm anticipating that we will be there) and he is needed, he would already have a game under his belt. Ottens can come in later in the season when perhaps there is an opportunity through injury:mad: to stay in rather than coming in for one or two games and then being forced out for no other reason than the above players returning.

Everything tells me this should be the weekend for danger!

[Jars458]

Otten over Dangerfield for me at this stage

Other option is for Maric to come in and play an extra tall as we struggle against Sandilands normally.

[Redline]

I think Maric has to play, the team really needs an extra tall to free up Tippett to play up forward and to give Griffen s rest. His form has been good as well so no real reason not to bring him in.

[IddyBiddy]

Foot speed was an issue for Freo last week, that is the only reason we would be thinking about Danger. Maric in for Campbell and Danger or Jacky in for Shirley.

[absolutezero]

Sounds good, can't wait to see him play. I say play him!

[cocka]

Foot speed was an issue for Freo last week, that is the only reason we would be thinking about Danger. Maric in for Campbell and Danger or Jacky in for Shirley.

spot on. talls and speed. :thumbsu:

[bus24]

^if he debuts, would love to see some banners welcoming him...
well, he's the one who wanted to apply for the draft while still in school - i.e, they just want the money, because they know they're going to focus on their studies more; and personally, i think failing year 12 is pretty hard to do, so i doubt he'd fail, because of some lost weekends, where he gets to play the game he loves. unless, he's trying to get into a course like med or dent...which i doubt.


Year 12 is a bludge. up until the final month or two.

Year 11 was harder (bar the last couple of months) for me.

[Gets!]

Come on Safetyoval!

Would be good to be at his debut game.

[fightingdreamer88]

It would be great for Rodney to debut, really it would because Shirley's time is up imo. But really, can you see the Crows making more than an obligatory forced change for injury, being Maric for Campbell?

[doppelganger47]

spot on. talls and speed. :thumbsu:yes, we really need Maric in; i hope this is the week they let Tippett loose in the forward line.
Year 12 is a bludge. up until the final month or two.
Year 11 was harder (bar the last couple of months) for me.always depend on the year 12 subjects; because if they're exactly the same as the year 11 subjects that one did, then it'll obviously be harder. year 12 is still the hardest year in high school; but i say that was nothing compared to uni (then again, it always depend on what course it is).

from afl site; other than Dangerfield who is first in line...these are the options provided for Campbell's replacement... i don't think Shirley will be replaced this weekend.
Neil Craig's options:
Tony Armstrong: 18, 0 AFL games, playing in North Adelaide reserves
Greg Gallman: 19, 0 AFL games, injured knee at training last week- test
Trent Hentschel: 25, 61 AFL games, on the comeback from serious injury
Jarrhan Jacky: 19, 0 AFL games, good form in SANFL
Ivan Maric: 22, 14 AFL games, good form in SANFL, but not a midfielder
Andy Otten: 19, 0 AFL games, good form in SANFL
James Sellar: 19, 0 AFL games, solid form in SANFL, but not a midfielder
Taylor Walker: 17, 0 AFL games, good reserves form, but not a midfielderthey're obviously not even considering bringing in Maric unless it's for another ruckman.

[KUNG FU]

We are playing too short.

Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric.

Or maybe Otten.

[IddyBiddy]

We are playing too short.

Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric. Maric.

Or maybe Otten.

I think you need to be a bit clearer...so you're suggesting Maric then?

[Porps_is_HOT_loz]

Could make a double sided banner!!??

My nanna would get pissed though coz she is doing all the work.

WANRING!

DANGER DANGER

[James_37]

Could make a double sided banner!!??

My nanna would get pissed though coz she is doing all the work.

WANRING!

DANGER DANGER

Might I suggest you spell Warning correctly!:thumbsu::thumbsu:

Other than that can't wait to see it on the TV!:)

[Drummond]

Maric should play. Should, but won't. Not sure how much more you can improve on 37 hit-outs, 17 possessions and 2 goals, but Craig is being his usual stubborn self which will cost the team.

Otten is NOT ready, Dangerfield is far closer to being AFL ready that Otten.

[KUNG FU]

I think you need to be a bit clearer...so you're suggesting Maric then?

Look, I don't want to keep harping on about it or anything. :D

[pjcrows]

Maric should play. Should, but won't. Not sure how much more you can improve on 37 hit-outs, 17 possessions and 2 goals, but Craig is being his usual stubborn self which will cost the team.

Otten is NOT ready, Dangerfield is far closer to being AFL ready that Otten.

Agree with this (except for the Craig comment). Why they don't have Tippett as a stay-at-home forward is beyond me.

[johnnypanther]

IMO too top heavy with Maric - and we also need more pace in the side

[Stiffy_18]

IMO too top heavy with Maric - and we also need more pace in the side
I agree, we are a bit too top heavy with Maric.

I think we are just right at the moment. McGregor, Stevens, Tippett, Bassett, Rutten, Bock and Griffin.

Thats 7 talls which is almost one third of the side. If Maric is to be brought in, then one of the talls would miss out and I wouldn't drop any of them.

[James_37]

I agree, we are a bit too top heavy with Maric.

I think we are just right at the moment. McGregor, Stevens, Tippett, Bassett, Rutten, Bock and Griffin.

Thats 7 talls which is almost one third of the side. If Maric is to be brought in, then one of the talls would miss out and I wouldn't drop any of them.

I agree with most of that, the problem is, is that Tippet is the only real decent KPF in that bunch and he's having to spit his time between ruck and forward, all the real KP players are defenders, even Kenny IMO played/plays his best footy as a CHB, which really limits our offensive capability. IMO we really don't need Rutten, Bock, Basset and Stevens in the one side, especially if Massie comes back, unfortunately you can't really drop any of them and at the moment we've got our hands tied a little here because of it and thus we have to play Tippet in the ruck. Its because of this i have a feeling that Basset may recieve a soft little push into a coaching job at the end of the year, or maybe a job dealing with sponsers etc.

However, its still early days, so I don't think it would hurt too much to experiment with that one extra tall, just to see how it goes. We've got some pretty deep midfield and if Tippet plays like he did in the NAB cup final, we may find that the loss of a runner is offset by much greater potency up forward.

[IddyBiddy]

IMO too top heavy with Maric - and we also need more pace in the side

Danger in for Shirely is the pace we need. Maric in for Campbell is the ruck support we require.

[KUNG FU]

I agree, we are a bit too top heavy with Maric.

I think we are just right at the moment. McGregor, Stevens, Tippett, Bassett, Rutten, Bock and Griffin.

Thats 7 talls which is almost one third of the side. If Maric is to be brought in, then one of the talls would miss out and I wouldn't drop any of them.

3 forwards, 3 backs & 2 ruckmen is the standard for every other side in the AFL except the Dogs hahaha. At the moment we only have 2 tall forwards, one of which is Stevens and he's more comfortable in defence. Its our greatest weakness and we're playing undermanned. Also it limits our ability to give our talls any bench time.

[IddyBiddy]

Lets take Geelong's best team - and their tallest players (likely to make a starting 22)

Ottens - 202cm
Blacke - 200
Hawkins - 197
Mooney - 195
Taylor - 193
Egan - 196
Scarlett - 192
Harley - 193
Corey - 191

Now lets take the Crows team with Maric/Tippett et al that may make us top heavy they are accoridng to footywire.

Griffin - 202cm
Tippett - 201
Maric - 198
McGregor - 195
Stevens - 194
Bock - 193
Rutten - 192
Bassett - 190
our next tallest may be...
Dangerfield - 187

It appears Geelong's team is more top heavy than the crows should we play Maric.

Something has to be said for balance and structure, i don't mind that argument, but the 'top heavy sentiment' really irks me as it dismisses those things. I think we should argue how bringing in Maric will expose a Freo weakness or help strengthen a deficiency we may have.

[Drummond]

Too top heavy? :D

Just got to laugh.

[Redline]

I agree with most of that, the problem is, is that Tippet is the only real decent KPF in that bunch and he's having to spit his time between ruck and forward, all the real KP players are defenders, even Kenny IMO played/plays his best footy as a CHB, which really limits our offensive capability. IMO we really don't need Rutten, Bock, Basset and Stevens in the one side, especially if Massie comes back, unfortunately you can't really drop any of them and at the moment we've got our hands tied a little here because of it and thus we have to play Tippet in the ruck. Its because of this i have a feeling that Basset may recieve a soft little push into a coaching job at the end of the year, or maybe a job dealing with sponsers etc.

However, its still early days, so I don't think it would hurt too much to experiment with that one extra tall, just to see how it goes. We've got some pretty deep midfield and if Tippet plays like he did in the NAB cup final, we may find that the loss of a runner is offset by much greater potency up forward.

I think you have summed things up fairly well here and I tend to agree about the 4 defenders but like you say our hands are a bit tied. Like you say we won't be top heavy if Maric comes in, we would be much more balanced.

[RoosterLad]

We need Maric to play so Tippett can set up camp in the goal square and dominate, he will kick a bag on the Freo defence if left there all game!!!

[wall_ryan]

Danger in for Shirely is the pace we need. Maric in for Campbell is the ruck support we require.

This is perfect!

Shirley pissed me off last week, there was a piece of play where his man ran off hiom and he jogged after, while tippett chased and nearly caught forcing the hand off to young who goaled.

Danger gives us a line breaker and Maric had a steller SANFL game and lets Tippett roam free in the forward line

[doppelganger47]

This is perfect!

Shirley pissed me off last week, there was a piece of play where his man ran off hiom and he jogged after, while tippett chased and nearly caught forcing the hand off to young who goaled.

Danger gives us a line breaker and Maric had a steller SANFL game and lets Tippett roam free in the forward lineexactly; all the fans are thinking the same thing...yet the crows don't look like throwing Tippett up forward full time any time soon.

[marvin]

Lets take Geelong's best team - and their tallest players (likely to make a starting 22)

Ottens - 202cm
Blacke - 200
Hawkins - 197
Mooney - 195
Taylor - 193
Egan - 196
Scarlett - 192
Harley - 193
Corey - 191



I doubt Taylor would be playing if Egan was fit.

[IddyBiddy]

I doubt Taylor would be playing if Egan was fit.

Fair, but Taylor looks the goods!

replace with Mackie - 192 cm or Ling -189cm it still makes their top nine for height bigger than us.

[cocka]

I agree, we are a bit too top heavy with Maric.

I think we are just right at the moment. McGregor, Stevens, Tippett, Bassett, Rutten, Bock and Griffin.

Thats 7 talls which is almost one third of the side. If Maric is to be brought in, then one of the talls would miss out and I wouldn't drop any of them.

I disagree stiff. We simply need two dedicated ruckmen as we have had for many a season now. We may have found the FF (Tippett) we have been searching for and we make him a part-timer, stupid. The guy is new to the game and we make him play FF and ruck. Let him settle in at FF.

Griffin, Maric - rucks, changing from bench
Tippett - FF
McGregor CHF
Bock - CHB
Rutten - FB
Bassett - BP
Stevens - floating between HB and HF.

Looks balanced to me. But, if you must get rid of a tall, ta da McGregor.

[marvin]

Yeah, but Mackie, Corey and Ling are all running players. I don't think I've seen a call for Luke Jericho to play just because he's 190cm.

Effectively (if they are all available) Geelong play 7 ruck / KPP types - Blake as a ruck; Scarlett, Harley, and Taylor (Egan) as big backs; Mooney and Hawkins as big forwards, and Ottens as a floating ruck/forward.

We play: Griffin as a ruck; Rutten, Bock and Bassett as big backs; McGregor and Stevens as big forwards (Stevens playing back when needed); and Tippett as the floating ruck/forward. Essentially the same mix.

We're also going with the smaller forward from the goalsquare (Burton/Goodwin) as many other sides do (Johnson, Aaron Edwards, McKinley, McVeigh, Williams) which probably leaves us a KPP shorter up forward, but a balance I quite like.

[jenny61_99]

The heading should read: Dangerfield to Debut IF Bryce Campbell doesn't come up AND IF they don't pick Jacky or Otten ahead of him! ;)

:D Newspaper editor needs to speak to me before they pick their headlines! ;)