View Full Version : Players i want to chase in Trade week and get rid of
hawk-boy
19 Apr 2008, 02:22
Get rid of
A.Hansen
Army
Make a bid for
Lovett
Wells
Djerkurra
Corey (but dont go all out)
beatlesmith
19 Apr 2008, 02:33
would also not be opposed to trading graham and maybe embley. We really need to solve our problem of lack of quick outside mids and crumbers. I think Djerkurra would be great as we could get him cheap, he is very young, can play a variety of roles and has the tools to be a star.
If we could not get wells, get Djerkurra. (outside mids)
If we could not get lovett, get varcoe or draft a young crumber. (crumbers)
EagleMan87
19 Apr 2008, 02:46
So we're going to throw away a potentially good draft pick for player that has shown no interest in coming to WA(bar Corey)?
Eagles have never done that, so why would we start now, when we have a young side that will improve, we're not Freo.
I'd prefer a Yarran to a Wells any day of week at our stage.
Please don't take this as an offence but have a look at the kids we drafted in the last couple of years, go to the WAFL and watch them, like Notte and Davis tonight, and you'll be pleasantly surprised by what you see.
I agree with EM87, I'd have Yarran, or Jeff Garlett, any day of the week before I traded picks to get Wells. Garlett's run down and tackling tonight was so Davey like it was not funny.
WaltzingMatera
19 Apr 2008, 03:51
Get picks instead. Sure it will be longer until they make an impact but at least there would be a lot to look forward to. Hawthorn were just a bunch of kids a couple of years back but now they have matured and are turning into what we may soon become.
I don't think Wells would want to leave but I wouldn't be slashing my wrists if he was traded for someone decent.
Mighty Eagles
19 Apr 2008, 11:25
Wells is inconsitent, bit like Army. Corey would be a great pick up
Kernel Sanders
19 Apr 2008, 11:45
Why the hell would we go after Wells. From all accounts, God comes 1st and footy 2nd.
Sounds like another dud we had on our payroll, McDooStuffAll.
I'd rather trade away our former stars and get the picks.
Trading for players is not the answer, look at Freo.
SOSBenny
19 Apr 2008, 12:22
I agree, we need a young Aboriginal kid with some serious pace!
So Lovett or Wells would be a good get, although both are risky moves...maybe if we get Wirra to "mentor" them for a year or two, it could pay massive dividends :thumbsu:
and well, if the east is gunna start making stories about Kerr wanting to go over, well...dammit why doesn't The West start a rumor about Corey coming home ;)
larrikin
19 Apr 2008, 12:42
There's another thread on this
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=428271
Lynch takes a mark
19 Apr 2008, 13:03
Pace through fleet of foot is HIGHLY over rated
Power however is not
Griffen, Hodge, Sewell, Judd, Ablett, Goodes, Bartel, Corey types are able to combine power and aggression with the running and hardness at the ball - these are the type of players we are needing, not guys who record good 20m sprint times on a basketball court in October.
The guys who can get in, wrestle the ball out of a contest and then run with it and still deliver the ball to a team mate are incredibly valuable to a team.
Check out the top clearance winners of the top 4 teams and you will see what I mean, Geelong are so far ahead of the competition in this area it's ridiculous.
Geelong
Bartel
Ling
Corey
Ablett
Chapman
Kelly
have all won between 3-4 clearances a game each and really spread the work load around, very even contribution to the contested ball.
You can then add Selwood, Rooke & Johnson who are bloody handy in these situations and that awesome defence to back them up.
Hawks have 4 that I really rate at the top of there clearances
Hodge/Sewell/Bateman/Mitchell but that doesn't compare to the amount of Cats players who would win the majority of 50:50 ball around the ground + that awesome defence and super hard working forward line.
Swans are a more likely matchup with the cats overall, plenty of hard bodies who really go in for the contest every where around the ground. Experience deep in finals over the past 6 years and very consistent mindset, look to be top 4 without a doubt.
Dogs have West, Cooney, Griffen, Boyd & Cross + lots of outside runners to feed it out to, will be top 6 but will take a couple more years to be serious contenders in the finals.
from the OP's list I would take Djerkerra (awesome little ball of muscle) and Corey, the others would be useless at the moment.
This years draft will be very good for contested ball winners early + the guys we already have developing.
Can Lynch do what Seaby does? I think he is an adequate around the ground ruckman while Cox is fit...
I think the Eagles will want two first round picks. To get the second one I would consider trading a couple of Seaby, Embley, Hansen and Hunter.
I think we could rookie list a couple of little known Aboriginal guys if our recruiters can look outside the square. West Coast have appointed an Aboriginal mentor (forgot who it is) but I don't think Panda needs it... so perhaps we are looking to draft some Aboriginal guys in the near future..
Can Lynch do what Seaby does? I think he is an adequate around the ground ruckman while Cox is fit...
I think the Eagles will want two first round picks. To get the second one I would consider trading a couple of Seaby, Embley, Hansen and Hunter.
I think we could rookie list a couple of little known Aboriginal guys if our recruiters can look outside the square. West Coast have appointed an Aboriginal mentor (forgot who it is) but I don't think Panda needs it... so perhaps we are looking to draft some Aboriginal guys in the near future..
Yes, that's what I have been thinking for a while now and I think it's Phil Narkle, who was at the game last night as well, I think. There are plenty of very good, quick, skillful aboriginal players around at the moment, and that's just at Swans. Don't know about the other teams.
Crimson King
19 Apr 2008, 15:06
Rookie draft this time around could be very handy.
YES! We need a good small Aboriginal forward.
Sampi you idiot - why why!!!
They just have awesome skills and can make something out of nothing.
I say leave Wirra up forward for the whole of 08. :thumbsu:
I really dont think we should be chasing anyone in trade week unless it is someone like Gumbleton or Jetta 9 (ie. a very young gun WA player). Considering this year will be a very very strong draft we should keep our draft picks or try upgrade them with our trade bait. DEVELOP THE YOUTH.
larrikin
19 Apr 2008, 16:19
YES! We need a good small Aboriginal forward.
Sampi you idiot - why why!!!
They just have awesome skills and can make something out of nothing.
I say leave Wirra up forward for the whole of 08. :thumbsu:
Why do they need to be aboriginal?
Why do they need to be aboriginal?
.... because their black why else?
beatlesmith
19 Apr 2008, 18:00
Can Lynch do what Seaby does? I think he is an adequate around the ground ruckman while Cox is fit...
I think the Eagles will want two first round picks. To get the second one I would consider trading a couple of Seaby, Embley, Hansen and Hunter.
I think we could rookie list a couple of little known Aboriginal guys if our recruiters can look outside the square. West Coast have appointed an Aboriginal mentor (forgot who it is) but I don't think Panda needs it... so perhaps we are looking to draft some Aboriginal guys in the near future..
hmmm. Hunter is another one i would look at trading. He isn't making the impact that he did when he was such a good swingman. I think Mitch Brown is the way of the future. He is bigger bodied than hunter and just as, if not more athletic than him. Would probably start CHB then be moved to CHF or FF if we needed him. And then consider we have mackenzie, spangher, schofield and even graham (if we didn't trade him) to back up. Hunter would get good value with a club needing KP defenders like hawthorn. I am quite impressed with lynch's rucking ability, and he could be a handy backup especially with his good pace, good hands below his knees, good field kicking skills, great work ethic and endurance and excellent strength. Hunter could probably command a late 1st rounder and seaby may be able to upgrade our first pick to make it more likely that we get daniel rich.
larrikin
19 Apr 2008, 18:44
.... because their black why else?
Huh?
Huh?
They can hide in the shadows...
Aboriginal players can bring a different dimension through speed, agility and general ball handling (Yes i am saying that Aboriginal players are different.. if thats what your getting at...) West Coast would love to have a Rioli I think (still not sure they would swap Ebert just yet)
larrikin
19 Apr 2008, 19:09
They can hide in the shadows...
Aboriginal players can bring a different dimension through speed, agility and general ball handling (Yes i am saying that Aboriginal players are different.. if thats what your getting at...) West Coast would love to have a Rioli I think (still not sure they would swap Ebert just yet)
I would have thought that Alan Didak would fit most of those criterias.
I would have thought that Alan Didak would fit most of those criterias.
Most of the Aboriginal players in the AFL under 6ft have those traits I listed in common... The average Aboriginal AFL player brings something different than the average non-Aboriginal AFL player... Would like a young Panda or McLeod or Johncock or Burgoyne or Lovett or Davey something to mix things up a bit and add another dimension..
larrikin
19 Apr 2008, 20:49
Most of the Aboriginal players in the AFL under 6ft have those traits I listed in common... The average Aboriginal AFL player brings something different than the average non-Aboriginal AFL player... Would like a young Panda or McLeod or Johncock or Burgoyne or Lovett or Davey something to mix things up a bit and add another dimension..
I don't disagree with the types of players you are talking about. They don't have to be aboriginal though, and I would hate to think we would overlook a potentially better small forward because we wanted to get someone of a certain race.
Obeanie1
20 Apr 2008, 00:13
How about these names......slightly outside the square thinking.
Roughead - tall forward who has shown a fair bit but might not ever see his best competing with Franklin.
Pertrie - can mark inside 50, can kick a goal.
Matty Stokes - still young, small tacking forward, can play through the midfield, kicks goals and marks inside 50.
Tradeable players:
Hansen, Graham, Staker, Rosa, Embley
beatlesmith
20 Apr 2008, 00:29
How about these names......slightly outside the square thinking.
Roughead - tall forward who has shown a fair bit but might not ever see his best competing with Franklin.
Pertrie - can mark inside 50, can kick a goal.
Matty Stokes - still young, small tacking forward, can play through the midfield, kicks goals and marks inside 50.
Tradeable players:
Hansen, Graham, Staker, Rosa, Embley
roughead and stokes yes, petrie no. I think Hawthorn and geelong are the places to purge. For KP forwards, i'm sure hawthorn would field offers for one of franklin, roughead or thorp, as the days of 3 KP forwards are ending, and they would still have dowler and boyle anyway. We would get good value for hunter (or graham for that matter) from them as they still need KP backmen and the addition of hunter will top them off and allow for a really big push for the flag. Geelong would be the place to be for crumbers and outside mids. They would probably try hard to keep stokes but we may be able to nab dujekura or varcoe as they look to relieve salary cap pressure. Another place would be essendon (lovett, davey or jetta), kangaroos (thomas, campbell or wells) or brisbane (mcgrath, corrie or hooper).
larrikin
20 Apr 2008, 01:31
roughead and stokes yes, petrie no. I think Hawthorn and geelong are the places to purge. For KP forwards, i'm sure hawthorn would field offers for one of franklin, roughead or thorp, as the days of 3 KP forwards are ending, and they would still have dowler and boyle anyway. We would get good value for hunter (or graham for that matter) from them as they still need KP backmen and the addition of hunter will top them off and allow for a really big push for the flag. Geelong would be the place to be for crumbers and outside mids. They would probably try hard to keep stokes but we may be able to nab dujekura or varcoe as they look to relieve salary cap pressure. Another place would be essendon (lovett, davey or jetta), kangaroos (thomas, campbell or wells) or brisbane (mcgrath, corrie or hooper).
No way Hawthorn would let Frankiln or to a lesser extent Roughead go
Obeanie1
20 Apr 2008, 11:09
No way Hawthorn would let Frankiln or to a lesser extent Roughead go
Don't be so sure on either and remember half the time its not the clubs decision its the players who want out for whatever reason.
EG: Franklins family moved to Melbourne to support him I believe. His mum gets home sick in a year for all the other family back in Perth, they move back, a year later Buddy wins a flag and misses mum and co.
Roughead slips into a form slump, position under pressure from Boyle and co, gets sick of everyone kicking to Buddy when he is fequentley in a better position. Media continue to put crap on him, gets offered big $$$$ elsewhere.
Are either of these scenarios that hard to believe. :rolleyes:
larrikin
20 Apr 2008, 11:15
Don't be so sure on either and remember half the time its not the clubs decision its the players who want out for whatever reason.
EG: Franklins family moved to Melbourne to support him I believe. His mum gets home sick in a year for all the other family back in Perth, they move back, a year later Buddy wins a flag and misses mum and co.
Roughead slips into a form slump, position under pressure from Boyle and co, gets sick of everyone kicking to Buddy when he is fequentley in a better position. Media continue to put crap on him, gets offered big $$$$ elsewhere.
Are either of these scenarios that hard to believe. :rolleyes:
Yes.
Won't happen
Obeanie1
20 Apr 2008, 11:28
Yes.
Won't happen
Are you Demetriou Mr Always right or do you own and operate a crystal ball?
In any way I'LL note your prediction for future reference.:p
Cerpin Taxt
20 Apr 2008, 15:21
Djerkurra is a fantastic suggestion.
In my mind, Lovett has too many off-field issues to be worth considering. Wells seems to be struggling with work-rate and hasn't really stepped up. I suppose you look at that upside and take him as a calculated risk, but I'd prefer not to go after inconsistent types. Corey would fit in nicely at the moment, but we would have to give up a lot and wouldn't have him for too long.
beatlesmith
20 Apr 2008, 15:30
No way Hawthorn would let Frankiln or to a lesser extent Roughead go
I know that they would fight hard to keep roughead and franklin but the point is that they probably can't sustain using all of them in the one forward line so maybe one will look elsewhere for other oppurtunities. Thats why i said "one of". Thorp, roughead, franklin, boyle and dowler, that is 5 KP forwards who would get a game at most other clubs. The days of 3 talls in the forward line (not including resting ruckmen) are coming to an end. Roughead and thorp would be the 2 i would look at. Roughead may look to play somewhere where he will not be second fiddle and thorp may want regular first team oppurtunities. Hunter and 2nd round pick?
EG: Franklins family moved to Melbourne to support him I believe. His mum gets home sick in a year for all the other family back in Perth, they move back, a year later Buddy wins a flag and misses mum and co.
:rolleyes:
fact is franklin was originally from melbourne and moved to WA in his older years. his family probably has already an established friend base and possibly a larger extended family base. i doubt his mum would get homesick.
though if we ever got franklin i probably would be able to walk for days. the idea of him in our side already gets me excited.