View Full Version : Q. Best young crop in the crows history?
Eastern Crow
19 Apr 2008, 10:21
I know it is very early and without putting too much pressure on the crows crusher group, however, I was interested on members thoughts on out current young crop, my question
Is this our best young group ever ? :confused:
I would say potentially yes
Griffen, Tippett, D-Mac are developing beautifully at AFL level
Jacky debuts today and is exciting
Walker's league debut in the sanfl last night was outstanding, Otten has walked into sanfl league footy averaging 20 touches a game
Sellar is highly rated, may take some time, however is starting to grow in confidence and I expect some strong performances at sanfl in the near future
Moran, he is raw, athletically he is exciting and offers something different
Maric and Gallman have stong 2007 sanfl form on the board
Cook, Armstrong and Kite, I have not seen enough of to assess
Moss, I have some very close friends involved at the CDFC, I know the club rates him very very highly
Curnow, plenty of good judges were shocked that he was not drafted on a senior list
lets not forget the other 23yrs and under playing today, Vince, Douglas, Symes and VB, and throw in Knights when he is fit
IMO the last time we had such youngtalent at the club was when Hart, Roo, Macca and Smart were early in their careers, hopefully in 10 years time we will be mentioning few of these boys in the same breath
Hmm, so you don't rate Dangerfiled and Porplyzia then? ;)
Probably yes. The last time as you say was mid 90's when Roo, Macca, Goody, Edwards, Hart, Smart and Johnson were coming through. The really exciting thing about now is we also have some really promising young ruckmen and KPP's coming through as well. I think we also have a really well balanced list at the moment (another ruck or 2 wouldn't go astray however) Some class, some honest hard workers and finally some genuine super exciting pace.
All in all the next few years look very exciting for the club.
pjcrows
19 Apr 2008, 11:36
The 1992-1993 period.
Shaun Rehn
Tony Modra
Mark Ricciuto
Ben Hart
Nigel Smart
Without those 5 players, we don't win back to back flags.
The 1992-1993 period.
Shaun Rehn
Tony Modra
Mark Ricciuto
Ben Hart
Nigel Smart
Without those 5 players, we don't win back to back flags.
Of course, but since then the current crop of <23 year olds are very, very promising. We look to finally have found a dominant forward line for years to come if things work out well. Walker, Sellar, Jacky, Douglas, Tippett. Makes your mouth water just a little :)
Last year's draft was very successful for us in my opinion and will shape the next 5 years of our club.
pjcrows
19 Apr 2008, 11:50
Of course, but since then the current crop of <23 year olds are very, very promising. We look to finally have found a dominant forward line for years to come if things work out well. Walker, Sellar, Jacky, Douglas, Tippett. Makes your mouth water just a little :)
Last year's draft was very successful for us in my opinion and will shape the next 5 years of our club.
I hope you're right, but if those 5 youngsters turn out to be as good as the 5 I mentioned I will eat my hat.
Stiffy_18
19 Apr 2008, 11:56
The 1992-1993 period.
Shaun Rehn
Tony Modra
Mark Ricciuto
Ben Hart
Nigel Smart
Without those 5 players, we don't win back to back flags.
I was about to post the same thing. While its great to see us have some real, genuine young talent on the list (compared to recent past), its a fairly far fetched to call it the best crop of youngsters in crows history!
Not sure any of the current boys quite have the potential to be as good as some of those all time greats, not only of the club but the AFL.
Eastern Crow
19 Apr 2008, 12:31
Hmm, so you don't rate Dangerfiled and Porplyzia then? ;)
My apologies to Dangerfield
Proplyzia, of course I rate him highly, however I was focusing on players in the 18 to 22 age group, Proplyzia amd Radar are on the edge of this group
Eastern Crow
19 Apr 2008, 12:42
Obviously time will be the judge if Tippett, Walker, Otten, Dangerfield, Sellar, Jacky, VB or Knghts become as good as Roo, Hart, Macca, Rehn and Mods
The range of young talent we have on our list at the moment is very exciting and hopefully in 10 years time we will be looking back at a successful period
fightingdreamer88
19 Apr 2008, 12:49
Gee you guys are quick to forget. I said the Crows were building an outstanding crop of young talent way back in early 2007 and 99% of you gave me all sorts of **** for suggesting it, you said I was delusional, but hey hey what have we here? I wasn't imagining things at all. Perhaps you should go a little easier next time when I say something very early in the piece; I'm not the idiot you think I am.
James23
19 Apr 2008, 13:00
i think the most pleasing thing about our list is that we have an abundance of young talls with huge amounts of potential. im thinking way ahead, but if walker and sellar develop into really good afl players, then tippett could become more of a ruckman. i know hes shown some great signs as a forward, but he'd obviously be a fantastic ruckman as well
I'm not the idiot you think I am.
Yes.
You are.
:D
deaneus
19 Apr 2008, 13:46
KG Cornsey Rucci and Ebert all just agreed on 5aa that Port's list is better than Adelaide's list.
Is it April 1st?
dyertribe
19 Apr 2008, 13:47
The 1992-1993 period.
Shaun Rehn
Tony Modra
Mark Ricciuto
Ben Hart
Nigel Smart
Without those 5 players, we don't win back to back flags.
At the start of the 1993 season:
MODRA, Tony: 24
SMART, Nigel: 23
REHN, Shaun: 21
HART, Ben: 18
RICCIUTO, Mark: 17
At the start of the 1996 season:
HART, Ben: 21
VARDY, Peter: 20
RICCIUTO, Mark: 20
MCLEOD, Andrew: 19
EDWARDS, Tyson: 19
GOODWIN, Simon: 19
JOHNSON, Kane: 18
For pure kid/upside factor (let's say, 21 and under), you can't go past 1996.
jenny61_99
19 Apr 2008, 14:09
At the start of the 1993 season:
MODRA, Tony: 24
SMART, Nigel: 23
REHN, Shaun: 21
HART, Ben: 18
RICCIUTO, Mark: 17
At the start of the 1996 season:
HART, Ben: 21
VARDY, Peter: 20
RICCIUTO, Mark: 20
MCLEOD, Andrew: 19
EDWARDS, Tyson: 19
GOODWIN, Simon: 19
JOHNSON, Kane: 18
For pure kid/upside factor (let's say, 21 and under), you can't go past 1996.
All good figures DT - but hindsight is a wonderful thing! ;)
Not sure we knew then that they would be the brilliant players they turned out to be. We won't really know if this crop is better for a few years yet.
Stiffy_18
19 Apr 2008, 14:16
All good figures DT - but hindsight is a wonderful thing! ;)
Not sure we knew then that they would be the brilliant players they turned out to be. We won't really know if this crop is better for a few years yet.
With all due respects jenny, only a blind freddy couldn't see the champions in the making with Hart, McLeod and Ricciuto. From the moment McLeod kicked that winning goal against the Hawks from a forward pocket, you could see that this kid is something very very special!
Roo and Hart were already stars at that stage of their respective careers.
Eastern Crow
19 Apr 2008, 14:53
With all due respects jenny, only a blind freddy couldn't see the champions in the making with Hart, McLeod and Ricciuto. From the moment McLeod kicked that winning goal against the Hawks from a forward pocket, you could see that this kid is something very very special!
Roo and Hart were already stars at that stage of their respective careers.
Macca came to the club carrying massive expectations, that dribble goal in the wet to win the game against the hawks was sensational
Roo came in the side as a 17 year old with a physical presence of a 4-5 year player and Hart as a Skinny kid was going head to head with players like Plugger.
I see signs in our current group that may take the same path as Zoomer Edwards, Tyson took a few seasons to get going, played many early games off the bench and was in and out the side, Edwards admits it took him 3-4 seasons before he really got going
With all due respects jenny, only a blind freddy couldn't see the champions in the making with Hart, McLeod and Ricciuto. From the moment McLeod kicked that winning goal against the Hawks from a forward pocket, you could see that this kid is something very very special!
Roo and Hart were already stars at that stage of their respective careers.
Slightly Different situation Stiff, but does it really matter.
We were just starting off when Roo and Harty came into the side and so they may have come inotthe team earlier rather than later
Add to the fact that Rheny came into the team aged 21 or 20 I think.
As a large group this group I think will be the best - Dangerfield, Otten, Tippett, Mackay, Douglas, Jacky, Curnow, Petrenko, Walker etcare the best group of young talent we have had for some time.
Give the club credit for making the hard decisions - they have turned the club list over and given its some freshness.
Rollins
19 Apr 2008, 23:56
It is hard to see who will become champion players until they play a few more years but porps sticks out like a sore thumb and has all the attributes and weekend at bernies is looking the goods with an awesome long bomb on him....I think the majority of the young crew coming thru will be very good....I'm pretty excited about rodney and look forward to seeing more of them get game time...something which should've happened with our young guys two years ago
doppelganger47
20 Apr 2008, 00:15
Of course, but since then the current crop of <23 year olds are very, very promising. We look to finally have found a dominant forward line for years to come if things work out well. Walker, Sellar, Jacky, Douglas, Tippett. Makes your mouth water just a little :)
Last year's draft was very successful for us in my opinion and will shape the next 5 years of our club.Walker and Sellar would be the main target options, but it looks like Tippett would be splitting duties between ruck and forward. Douglas is more of a midfielder that will float forward and Jacky is a crumbing forward that would hope to make his way to the midfield. last year was a good draft, esp with our first 3 pickups + Walker, but apparently this year is supposed to be a good crop too. i think the excitement is more around the fact that we've had quite a few consecutive disappointing years of draft prospects that have come in and out of the system, with even a lot of high pick duds (Watts, Angwin and Meesen to a degree). we finally have young kids, which look like they can play afl.
At the start of the 1993 season:
MODRA, Tony: 24
SMART, Nigel: 23
REHN, Shaun: 21
HART, Ben: 18
RICCIUTO, Mark: 17
At the start of the 1996 season:
HART, Ben: 21
VARDY, Peter: 20
RICCIUTO, Mark: 20
MCLEOD, Andrew: 19
EDWARDS, Tyson: 19
GOODWIN, Simon: 19
JOHNSON, Kane: 18
For pure kid/upside factor (let's say, 21 and under), you can't go past 1996.i agree; thought 1996/97 years were the best young group :thumbsu:.