Northern Bullants Vs. Tasmania Match Thread

[TBNB]

The Bullants are playing today at MC Labour Park at 1.pm. Also televised on ABC live.

Put all match discussion in here please.:thumbsu:

[Jeremias]

I'll be watching on the TV with great interest.

I'll try and put up a little report at the end of each quarter to keep the masses informed.

Will be interesting to see how a few of the boys go considering that they know they're pretty close to a senior call up.

Also, with reports that Gibbs didn't train and might not play, will be looking out for someone not playing today that might come in as a late change for Bryce tomorrow.

[TBNB]

Yeah i'll be putting up a report at the end of each quarter too, i'll probably put up a big one at the end of the game too.

[blues4flag]

Also, with reports that Gibbs didn't train and might not play, will be looking out for someone not playing today that might come in as a late change for Bryce tomorrow.

WTH? :confused:

[Pamam]

Yeah i'll be putting up a report at the end of each quarter too, i'll probably put up a big one at the end of the game too.

now now children!!

it aint mine is bigger and better than yours competition!!!:D:D

[TBNB]

now now children!!

it aint mine is bigger and better than yours competition!!!:D:DIt isn't?:eek::D

[Carlton.No.1]

I will put up a review every 10 minutes aswell as a very detailed one at the end of each quarter. I will also count possesions and tacklesand I will also work out there potential supercoach score using champion data

[Gilly1972]

I'm going to post a link to streaming video of my personal re-enactment of the entire game at the local footy oval :thumbsu:

Edit: From a drafting perspective, If he is named keep an eye on Cornelius (KPF) for tasmania.

[Jarrod Waiteee]

bentick not there?

[Gilly1972]

bentick not there?

Didnt see him listed....perhaps Gibbsy won't come up tomorrow.
:thumbsd::(

[Gilly1972]

Browney with the flight of the ball, sensational....goal to Colbert :)

[thylacine60]

Browney with the flight of the ball, sensational....goal to Colbert :)

My thoughts exactly. Just wanted the ball. Brilliant. Joseph has some toe.

[Jarrod Waiteee]

poor wiggins haha

[Gilly1972]

My thoughts exactly. Just wanted the ball. Brilliant. Joseph has some toe.

AJ has twinkle toes and a great side-step too.:thumbsu:

[Gilly1972]

Smart fella Ellard :thumbsu:

[thylacine60]

Armfield's tackle. He's a compact little bull. I still think Harts can make it. Really.

[thylacine60]

Teague has insane courage. Always did.

[Stubba1]

radio stream at http://3ser.org.au/

[McKinleyISgood]

jacksons got three of them!

[jonoman89]

nice little blue going on aha.

[disconorman]

No Benitck, looks like he'll be playing for the Blues tomorrow, which I'm sure will make many of you happy.

Also notice no Hampson? Anyone know any goss about him not playing - was he in the Bully magoos or not playing this weekend?

Hartlett and Ellard look good. Aisake looks like poop - haven't seen much of him in the past, does he always play like that? Is that why people on here rate him so highly? Hope he has a better next 3 qrts than his first.

Ackland pooed himself in that qtr time melee. Big girl. Played alright though.

[thylacine60]

AJ you little tin-arse!

Jake and Harts showing plenty against good opposition. Tough game, really enjoying it.

[gandaal]

Just turned it on. Edwards is doing some very nice things.

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Goal to Ellard. Ants in front

[Gilly1972]

Harts has the buckets today :thumbsu:

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Jealous of you guys who get vision on ABC.

Hartlett from 60m. Goal!!!!!!!!

[marcmurphy3]

Setanta would want to play an absolute ripper tommorow.

[jonoman89]

harts is going great - get him in seniors next week.

[Gilly1972]

we have no system or run off HB :thumbsd:

[thylacine60]

Even the commentators are disgusted by Ackland.

[The Old Dark Navy's]

7.5.47 to 5.8.38 as Tassie get a goal

[TBNB]

Ackland getting killed as is Aisake.

Loved Armfield's tackle in the first quarter, the player had about 3 or 4 steps on him but Armfield caught him and got the free. Browney has been good, loved the set-up to Colbert where he plucked it out of the air and beat a few, kicking it straight onto Colby's chest. AJ has been great, showed some great pace in the first quarter out-running everyone.

Harts has been good on the lead, taking 6 marks so far and kicking 2.1.

Good game so far.

[Da Bull]

harts is going great - get him in seniors next week.

Should have been in this week:mad:. Took the punt & banged him in my supercoach team. God Damn it!!!

Oh geez Ackland, see ya later mate.:o (that's for him)

[gandaal]

Since I started watching:
-Hartlett's been a class above.
-Edwards has been clean with his hands and disposal. Looks like a player.
-Ellard is working hard but lacks skill.
-Jackson's had some good touches.
-Aisake has zero intensity which is disappointing.

The rest have been relatively unsighted.

[jonoman89]

HARTS! what a run down!

p.s. they are interviewing THE big nick at half time!

[gandaal]

HARTS! what a run down!

p.s. they are interviewing THE big nick at half time!

Hasn't Stevens got better things to do?

[TBNB]

Just heard they're interviewing John Nicholls! Can't wait!

[Gilly1972]

we have no system or run off HB :thumbsd:

That was a good call :rolleyes::o.

Benji looks better to me in the forward line, despite the dodgy kick.

Ellard and Joseph go alright for rookie picks :thumbsu:.

Would have to think that Hampson and Jacobs would be 3 and 4 ruckmen on today's performances.

[thylacine60]

Hasn't Stevens got better things to do?

Oh behave! :D

[disconorman]

Harlett has dominated to half time. Setanta will be feeling the pressure. Edwards needs to present more, as when he does, looks very good, just doesn't do it enough.

Aisake a little better that qtr but still very disappointing.

Bullants pressure, chasing and tackling has been excellent.

[Gilly1972]

1%ers certainly picked up in the second quarter....physical pressure and chasing was much better.

JK had a great game for east freo Thy :):p

[thylacine60]

1%ers certainly picked up in the second quarter....physical pressure and chasing was much better.

JK had a great game for east freo Thy :):p

Will be a valuable player




























@ second tier level.

[Jeremias]

My thoughts at half time:

-Harts very impressive. Presents brilliantly and continues running down the ground to present an option and to chase. Has a massive kick which doesn't seem to have been affected by the injuries too much, and he's accurate. Keep this up and he'll be stiff not to be in the team next week.

-Edwards looks good but been a little quiet. Is playing deep forward. Looks like he works really well with Harts up forward. Pressure is pretty good.

-Browne started brilliantly but dropped off a bit. Hopefully he has a good 2nd half. Great courage and pretty good skill. I like him a lot :thumbsu:

-Armfield pretty quiet but can't help but be impressed by his efforts. Should have kicked a goal right on half time but was a shocking kick and missed from right in front, 20 metres out.

-AJ looks a goer. Pretty tough and quick, disposal a mixed bag. Impressive return thus far for a rookie.

-Jacko getting a lot of it and in a lot of the play. Disposal a bit iffy at times.

-Ellard impressive. Looks to me as though he could become more than a forward pocket. Knows where to go but again, disposal sometimes lets him down.

-Benjamin very quiet, playing on a man down back and then moved up forward in the 2nd. Out on the full from a tough set shot pretty much all he's done.

-Austin very quiet. He's rough and might turn out OK but needs to get involved in the play more.

-Aisake very disappointing. Getting spanked in the middle and having close to no impact around the ground. Needs to lift his intensity.

-Ackland started pretty well. Getting a stack of it early and filling the hole down back. No impact in the ruck whatsoever though.

-Wiggins getting a lot of the ball and looks good but disposal is shocking.

That's all the Carlton listed players I can think of off the top of my head.

[thylacine60]

Stats? Did they play last night? Or was there a dawn game today?:confused:

[gandaal]

Best so far? I've only seen the second quarter so I can only judge based on that. For mine:

Best: Hartlett, Ellard, Bransgrove, Edwards, Joesph

[Gilly1972]

[quote=Jeremias;10722551]My thoughts at half time:



-Austin very quiet. He's rough and might turn out OK but needs to get involved in the play more.

quote]

How many has his opponent kicked? :rolleyes::p

[jonoman89]

harts has got to play next week. he is the future of our forward line.

[thylacine60]

OT: Welcome to real football, Sydney Swans and Paul Roos.

[trueblue_91]

harts has got to play next week. he is the future of our forward line.

How many has he kicked so far today?

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Ackland from 35m. Goals.

Ants: 8.10.58
Tassie: 5.8.38

Casey radio commentators bagging out Ackland for prancing around the field.

[jonoman89]

How many has he kicked so far today?

2 goals by half time, with around 12 touches and 4 tackles. his pressure and leads have been 1st rate.

[TBNB]

Ackland getting spanked by street in the ruck, sad to watch really.:thumbsd:

[TheGeneral]

Elevate Joseph and Ellard. :D

Joseph was a human clamp when he pinged a former AFL player in Thurley and knocked the ball free.

Thurley kept going and then broke Bransgrove's tackle when he got his hands on the ball again.

Great tackle from Joseph. :thumbsu:

Edwards reminds me of a young Hamill with his size and defensive pressure because he puts his body in.

Ellard's defensive pressure is great for a slip of a player.

Austin will be a unit and a CHB like Maguire when he ran down the ground to have a snap on the run.

Missed by a hair's breadth.

Ackland went to the same ruck school as Fraser and jumps early.

Aisake tapped it down and roved like Kreuzer. :eek:

Nice pass on his left.

Great effort in defense when Aisake tapped out into the path of a teammate to clear the ball from the backline.

Jackson didn't go the first or even the second option and is up against to make it as a tagger.

Even though he's only 17, there isn't much of Cornelius.

He appears to be the same height as Fisher because he's shorter than Austin.

They appear to be playing Pagan's game plan under Teague. ;)

[thylacine60]

Great forward pressure by Harts. Good enough for Fev, he thinks.

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Ants 60-44. Sounds like Ants are far better but not really working hard enough to put a real gap into them.

[thylacine60]

Jake needs to believe in his size. Tackling well today but too often gets brushed/pushed aside.

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Ants 60
Devils 52

Ants might be stuffing this up.

[The Old Dark Navy's]

3 quarter time.

Ants: 8.12.60
Tassie: 8.10.58

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Impressed with Teague's 3/4 time address. Sounds like a likely AFL coach candidate. Articulate, smart and motivating.

[TheGeneral]

Where is Saddington?

Cornelius is playing in the backline on Edwards and doing a good job.

Can we swap him for Wiggins before the game ends? :cool:

[thylacine60]

Impressed with Teague's 3/4 time address. Sounds like a likely AFL coach candidate. Articulate, smart and motivating.

Agree :thumbsu:.

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Ants: 8.14.62
Devils 9.10.64

Will this be the one that got away?

[bluegal1983]

LOL at Cornelius! He just handpassed from FB.

[bluegal1983]

Great roving goal from Ellard! :thumbsu: Bullants up by 5 points 10 mins into the last.

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Ellard off hands for the goal.

Ants: 9.15.69
Devils: 9.10.64

2.3 to Ellard

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Teague's strength wins out, marking in the square, goal

Ants: 10.15.75
Devils: 9.10.64

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Does anybody think that Teague has improved his VFL form from last year now that he is coach? Standing tall with responsibility.

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Teague kicks to Wiggins 35m out. Misses.

Ants: 10.16.76
Devils: 9.10.64

[The Old Dark Navy's]

77-65 as they exchange behinds

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Ants: 10.17.77
Devils 9.13.67

Game is balanced. An AFL player needs to stand up and win this.

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Joesph lining it up, 21 mins gone 4th quarter. Misses

Ants: 10.18.78
Devils 9.13.67

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Need another goal to seal this. Don't want a Devils goal to make things nervous.

10.18.78
9.14.68

I am talking to myself for the benefit of those that did not hear the coverage and want to follow the sequence of events. The other half is out so I can afford to indulge myself and do nothing. :D

[thylacine60]

Is Wiggins Bullants best?

[TBNB]

On the edge of my seat......

[The Old Dark Navy's]

26 mins gone. Nathan Street to Cornelius, Boundy should have spoiled there. Goal

10.18.78
10.14.74

Uh oh

[thylacine60]

I'm listening, ODN. Ellard the long, bouncing sealer!

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Goal to Ellard immediately

[bluegal1983]

Ellard kicks a goal from 65m and it bounces through!!!

Woot woot!!! Bullants by 10 points. They should win from here :D

[bluegal1983]

Bullants win but should have won by more.

[The Old Dark Navy's]

3 goals to Ellard. Ants by 10. There is the siren

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Full Time

Northern Bullants 11.18.84
Tassie Devils 10.14.74

Bullants go 3-1 in 2008.

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Simon Wiggins being interviewed. Sounds like he is more a Bullants player than a Carlton player mentality wise. Enjoys playing for the Bullants he says. I'd be adding that I prefer to play for Carlton as a disclaimer there. :D

[thylacine60]

Ellard played 6 quarters today! Fit little bugger.

[marcmurphy3]

howd harts play in the 2nd half?

[gandaal]

howd harts play in the 2nd half?

Poorly. Was more or less unsighted.

Ellard was BOG for mine.

Can't say that Cornelius looked like a top 10 draft pick on that effort.

[thylacine60]

I'm going to post a link to streaming video of my personal re-enactment of the entire game at the local footy oval :thumbsu:

Edit: From a drafting perspective, If he is named keep an eye on Cornelius (KPF) for tasmania.

Top effort that, Gilly. I had to watch the game from a hot-spot cafe in Brunswick Street where I am waiting to have my car un-clamped. Luckily I know a few people in the area and through a clever combination of angled bathroom and car mirrors I managed to get vision right from PP to my table, the final link coming off the Citroen's external mirror. I picked up the radio call on the internet and enjoyed good coffee and a salaami focaccia at half time.

[HBF]

Only saw bits of the game, in between mowing the lawns, and having a nana nap on the couch. The 2 guys that did impress today were Joseph and Ellard. Ellard is just so dangerous around the goals, and very clever with his field kicking. Joseph is a real terrior, who's kicking has improved heaps since I saw him train a few months ago.

Also thought that Hartlett and Edwards played solid 1st halfs as well.

[TheGeneral]

Can't say that Cornelius looked like a top 10 draft pick on that effort.
I hope they hide the tape from Hughes because Cornelius looked alot like a "Wayne Hughes special" at his height and weight.

Why was Benjamin played as a defender?

Clint looked more comfortable when he got a kick up the ground on the wing than down back.

[gandaal]

The thing I like about Ellard is that he's a hard worker. He may not be the most talented individual at the club but puts in 100% all game. If a few other players had his attitude today the Ants would've won by 100 points.

[Blues_Man]

After watching that game it occured to me that we lack depth big time..there was not one player that would force his way into the seniors on performance alone.
Wiggins was the best player with his clean disposal standing out in a team of players bent on butchering the ball at every opportunity .

Hartlett started out in a blaze of glory and then totally disappeared for the remainder of the game .
Benjamin has a go but cannot kick a football to save himself.
Those players need a lot more game time in the ants before they could be considered for senior selection .

[TheGeneral]

Hampson and Walker are still out. ;)

Ackland should never play another game for Carlton.

[BlueFeaver]

After watching that game it occured to me that we lack depth big time..there was not one player that would force his way into the seniors on performance alone.
Wiggins was the best player with his clean disposal standing out in a team of players bent on butchering the ball at every opportunity .

Hartlett started out in a blaze of glory and then totally disappeared for the remainder of the game .
Benjamin has a go but cannot kick a football to save himself.
Those players need a lot more game time in the ants before they could be considered for senior selection .

Hartlett only fell away because the supply in the second half was very average to say the least. He still presented and made himself a target.

IMO he should be given 6 weeks at CHF for the Blues.

[Five]

Jealous of you guys who get vision on ABC.

Where do you Eat Reesewithaspoon Old Dark, if you cant get ABC?

Cornelius is playing in the backline on Edwards and doing a good job.

I thought Cornelius looked a likely type for a 17yo
;)

[TheGeneral]

I thought Cornelius looked a likely type for a 17yo
;)
Cornelius turns 18 in May and was rated as a potential top ten pick.

Cornelius isn't any taller and bigger than Brad Fisher and would be a third tall/lead up forward if he doesn't grow.

He's no Mitch Thorp who 6'5" and splitting the pack for Tassie the year he was drafted.

[gandaal]

Cornelius turns 18 in May and was rated as a potential top ten pick.

Cornelius isn't any taller and bigger than Brad Fisher and would be a third tall/lead up forward if he doesn't grow.

He's no Mitch Thorp who 6'5" and splitting the pack for Tassie the year he was drafted.

Indeed. Can't say I was impressed.

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Where do you Eat Reesewithaspoon Old Dark, if you cant get ABC?

I'm in Brisbane. I assume we were talking ABC TV. Neither ABC or ABC2 had the VFL on in Brisbane. If we were talking ABC radio, they don't cover VFL games in Brisbane either. Both must substitute for local audiences.

[Gilly1972]

I hope they hide the tape from Hughes because Cornelius looked alot like a "Wayne Hughes special" at his height and weight.

Why was Benjamin played as a defender?

Clint looked more comfortable when he got a kick up the ground on the wing than down back.

Don't think Cornelius has enough size for WH....he isn't a flanker, and not really big enough for a tue KPP in today's game.....third tall forward a-la Jack Riewoldt (minus the workrate) for mine which will see him slide down the order a bit IMO. Although I have been bitten on the arse before for making calls this early in the year.

[gbatman]

No player from that game showed they are ready for AFL selection although there are some things to consider. Wiggins was easily BOG and would be next in line for a call up, got a lot of the footy, covered a lot of ground but was unpolished with some of his disposal but generally ok.

The Bullants played a shit style of footy based around Dennis Pagans game plan which is no surprise seeing their coach was coached by Pagan all of his career. The game was congested with no one creating space and constant predictable long kicking to contests. Like how Carlton have been playing in previous years.

The ants failed to run the ball out of defence, failed to link handball and use forward hand passes to move the ball forward in attacking style. Coming out of defence was almost always done with a long bomb, easy for opponents to read. Lucky Tassie were fairly weak up forward and the Bullants had some talent there.

The midfield was always congested, even around the wings where teams are meant to open it up, the Bullants failed to make space and open it up for their runners. They failed to utilise running players by having no structure in the midfield.

The forward line was littered with talent but was also congested and unstructured for most of the day. The ball was delivered up forward via long bombs constantly. More so as the game went on. Leading forwards would have no hope here!
The goal kicking was unacceptable at any level, disgraceful!

Jackson battled on, played on the ball all day and didn't seem to have the fitness to do so. Was exhausted in the last quarter but still did alright. Appeared to be closely marked, looked a bit sluggish and lethargic with not much intensity (like Houlihan), not what we need ever! Was pushed off the contest a bit due to his lack of size. Not ready yet, needs pace if he lacks strength at contests for AFL. Has good ball handling and disposal and youth on his side, worth sticking with and maby giving a go.

Aaron Joseph was about the most promising with his pace and skill, looks like a potential AFL player and worth keeping an eye on. worked hard in a team who play a style of footy not suited to his running type.

Benjamin was ok, rarely sighted though but had defencive responsibilities, would be more suited to a more open game, seemed to have been instructed to kick long and did so often, someone not showing faith in his kicking ability? Will never learn how to kick passes by bombing away all the time as all Blues fans have seen.

Browne showed a lof of courage and intensity as always, not ready for AFL yet, probably needs to develop his fitness levels to that standard so he can get to more contests and play more on the ball. A hopeful future prospect.

Hartlett had a good first half when the team ran the ball and used short kicks and delivered passes to the forwardline instead of bombs. Would be better suited to AFL. His kicking at goal wasn't very good but then again Fevs wasn't when he was young to. Due to Carlton lacking a tall forward and O'hAlpin not doing quite enough he may be considered.

Edwards was rarely sighted and played second fiddle to other tall forwards like Teague, Hartlett and Colbet. Once again, not suited to the ball being bombed on his head but didn't do enough for selection. No wonder he said it was easier to get a kick at AFL level!

Ellard showed enough that he might make an AFL player. Showed good pace and smarts, once again would do well in a more open game, worth keeping an eye on.

To develop players for AFL you would think they should be playing an AFL style of footy, also they won't have a chance of beating the better sides playing like that!


My opinion, the ants need to work on their disposal and couldn't do enough ball handling as this was poor under pressure but it is only VFL. Too many handpasses hit the ground before they got to their targets, handpasses lacked penetration and power. Goal kicking was disgracefull at any level of footy. Need to work on linking and running the footy out of defence. They need to work on opening up the midfield for players to lead and run into. Use more short kicks. The forward line will function better when the players delivering the footy are closer to their targets...
So basically adopt the General AFL game plan, style and structure and dump the ancient Pagan style.

IMO get the players with good pace like Ellard, Joseph, Benjamin, Anderson and Armfield on the wings and forward flanks playing up the ground in the midfield, open up the wings by lining up the spine and running wide and let the run fest begin (Like good AFL sides). The Bullants are using these players as stoppers or small forwards. Give them space, set them free, let them run...

[Doza]

Don't know if its been mentioned, but I read today that Ellard actually played half a game in the VFL reserves before playing in the VFL seniors last weekend. Good effort to be one of our best on ground after a playing a half game prior.