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SOSBenny
20 Apr 2008, 18:57
F**k the second half!!!! My blood is boiling and I want the f**king axe swinging right f**king now!!!! :mad:

Out: Anyone over the age of 24, except for Cox, Glass and Kerr

In: anyone under the age of 24, not already in the team

AND FOR GOD SAKES, give Kerry some love you idiots! :thumbsd:

SOSBenny
20 Apr 2008, 19:00
ok...maybe that was a bit extreme. But im glad I got that out :)

i really can't say what yet, due to a lack of foxtel at home...but I will come back with my thoughts when I, painfully, sit through the game :(

bzparkes
20 Apr 2008, 19:02
Midfield needs a shakeup. Can't really blame the forwards, delivery has been awful.

kane249
20 Apr 2008, 19:08
Midfield needs a shakeup. Can't really blame the forwards, delivery has been awful.

Cones has been awful and dropping some marks

SOS Josh Kennedy!

SOSBenny
20 Apr 2008, 19:13
Cones has been awful and dropping some marks

SOS Josh Kennedy!

haha...I was thinking about re-registering as that yesterday...but, it has to many characters

J Swizzle
20 Apr 2008, 19:29
Masten's been good..

Hooray for optimism!!!

When's Priddis ,Butler and LeCras due back?

BarcaRulz
20 Apr 2008, 19:48
We need Priddis back. Would also like to see Butler back because i think he is a brilliant midfielder.

We need to give the boot to Chad Fletcher. Nicoski has been painfully bad as well.

J Swizzle
20 Apr 2008, 19:50
Chad Fletcher can actually get the ball, but he's so ____ing frustrating..

His decisions are so stupid..

Jafa
20 Apr 2008, 19:51
Send Fletch down to Subi please.

:)

weagles_fan
20 Apr 2008, 19:52
Out:
Fletcher
Nicoski
Spangher (matchup?)
C.Jones
Braun maybe
Hurn maybe
Armstrong if there's another crumber available

Stenglein only just saves his spot because he has done a reasonable job on Chad. Tyson gets it and just kicks it for the sake of it way too often.

MaxHunt
20 Apr 2008, 19:58
i think cones should get another 3 weeks. he and ben mac should be told they are safe for a while and let them see how they work together.

SOSBenny
20 Apr 2008, 20:04
There is too many boys out of form to drop! Its a case of a bunch of blokes simply losing their Mojo!
You can make two or three changes, but...you just have to grind it out. We know this team is better than what we are seeing...

Out:
Nicoski
Fletcher
C. Jones

Lynch is saved by the fact their is no one to replace him with...

In:
Kennedy (FOR F**K SAKES...JUST DO IT!!!)
Schofield
S.Selwood/Houlihan?

Lynch takes a mark
20 Apr 2008, 20:23
In: Schofield, Kennedy, Ebert, McNamara
Out: Fletcher, Braun, C. Jones, Nicoski

mitchzz
20 Apr 2008, 20:26
OUT: C. Jones, Braun, Nicoski
IN: Kennedy (FOR GOD SAKES!!!), Ebert, Schofield

anti.
20 Apr 2008, 20:28
its pretty hard to find someone to drop.

for me i'd just have the one change of cones out kennedy in.

sdb4884
20 Apr 2008, 20:30
Out:
NICOSKI (Finshed for me at West Coast)
Seaby (Has been downright dreadful over the last 3 weeks, Lynch and Kennedy can share 2nd Ruck duties)

In:

KENNEDY..................................................FFS
Notte (play him now, what is there to lose?)


1-4 is this our 1996?

We didn't play this bad when we lost 4 in a row back then.

Looking For 4th
20 Apr 2008, 20:30
Out Nicoski, Cones,

In Schofield Kennedy

Fletcher hangs on by the skin of his teeth because no-one else is stepping up and dominating in WAFL.

But lets face it could drop 10-11 players if we had 10 or 11 to replace them.

larrikin
20 Apr 2008, 20:32
Nicoski mad a couple of errors, but he was alright for me. He provided some run at least.

Crimson King
20 Apr 2008, 20:32
Out: Fletcher, Cones, Braun
In: Kennedy, Schofield, Ebert

eagles06
20 Apr 2008, 20:32
Out Nicoski, Cones,

In Schofield Kennedy

Fletcher hangs on by the skin of his teeth because no-one else is stepping up and dominating in WAFL.

But lets face it could drop 10-11 players if we had 10 or 11 to replace them.

Yeh thats about right.

As soon as Pridda gets back hes gone for good.

Cuzz09
20 Apr 2008, 20:33
If I wrote this thread I would be crucified!

Dunno though.

Kerr was pretty quiet til the 2nd half I thought he was well held.

Gotta love McKinley though.

Lynchy started to get a bit of confidence.

Fletch was scared to tackle Tredrea but then went back and did a good one on Chad Cornes which was good to see.

We will give the doggies a fair run next week at the Dome I reckon, may not win but hopefully they just play like they are actually enjoying the game.

Max zero
20 Apr 2008, 20:36
So Chad Jones gets one game, is not great, then dropped? I mean seriously?

The guy needs more then 1 week.

Fletcher, Braun, Embley and Lynch are the ones i'm watching.

larrikin
20 Apr 2008, 20:37
Embers was ok

CRAZY EAGLE
20 Apr 2008, 20:37
Out:
NICOSKI (Finshed for me at West Coast)
Seaby (Has been downright dreadful over the last 3 weeks, Lynch and Kennedy can share 2nd Ruck duties)

In:

KENNEDY..................................................FFS
Notte (play him now, what is there to lose?)


i agree play him
also bring in scooter and ebert aswell as kennedy
in coming weeks maybe davis and houlihan

Prolix
20 Apr 2008, 20:38
Out: C. Jones (seriously, it was abysmal)
In: Kennedy

I can see them dropping someone for Schofield, probably Nicoski unless Spangher pulls up sore/is given a rest/has no match-up.

eagles06
20 Apr 2008, 20:38
So Chad Jones gets one game, is not great, then dropped? I mean seriously?

The guy needs more then 1 week.

Fletcher, Braun, Embley and Lynch are the ones i'm watching.

It was a bad decision to play him to start with, although he has piled on the goals in the WAFL. Kennedy is the type we need atm. He is a McKinely type.

anti.
20 Apr 2008, 20:40
Out:
NICOSKI (Finshed for me at West Coast)
Seaby (Has been downright dreadful over the last 3 weeks, Lynch and Kennedy can share 2nd Ruck duties)

In:

KENNEDY..................................................FFS
Notte (play him now, what is there to lose?)


1-4 is this our 1996?

We didn't play this bad when we lost 4 in a row back then.

a ruckman and a half back out for 2 key forwards.....leaving us with 4 key forwards, hahah this is a joke.

i'd actually say
out nico and cones
in kennedy and ebert/schoey

please no hansen.

SOSBenny
20 Apr 2008, 20:43
What about Staker?!!?
He wasnt the worst so far this year, prior to getting knocked senseless

J Swizzle
20 Apr 2008, 20:44
OUT: C. Jones, Braun/Fletcher
In: Kennedy, Ebert

bluesinsider
20 Apr 2008, 20:46
KENNEDY= EMERGENCY NEXT WEEK.

hansen will come back in for sure,

You guys have got a potential Gun CHF in Kennedy, strong over head, pack busting, chases and tackles hard and pits pressure to keep the ball in the forward line. And he cannot get a crack in a team that cannot kick goals!!

larrikin
20 Apr 2008, 20:49
What about Staker?!!?
He wasnt the worst so far this year, prior to getting knocked senseless
Good point

He would have to come straight back in

Seadog
20 Apr 2008, 20:50
Fletcher is done as far as I'm concerned, plays without desperation and continually trys to just put the ball to a position rather than kick it with conviction.
I hate to see the demise of a player who has given his heart and soul to the club but Braunies days are numbered.
There are a few others that aren't up to the standard required, Armstrong and Cones are at the front of that group but Fletcher is probably the only one that definitely should be dropped.
Kennedy must be pretty ordinary on the track if he can't force his way into this team.

Stab_Pass
20 Apr 2008, 20:50
Couldnt cjones play in the ruck aswell and leave seaby in the forward line

MaxHunt
20 Apr 2008, 20:53
Couldnt cjones play in the ruck aswell and leave seaby in the forward line

Why would you do that if you have Cox?

Lion El'Johnson
20 Apr 2008, 20:54
In: Staker

Out: Unsure

paramore
20 Apr 2008, 20:54
They had good last qtr.

anti.
20 Apr 2008, 20:55
brauny wasnt thattttt bad. he's had better days but he improved no doubt from his past 3 games. have to keep him in.

as for staker, i dont know if he's needed right now. give him a few weeks in the WAFL and make him earn a spot. rather see schoey or ebert get a go.

paramore
20 Apr 2008, 20:57
Nicoski I reckon should stay in the team. He had good last qtr. He made few mistakes before the last qtr but so did everyone. He provided some run when he went into the midfield.

patsmith
20 Apr 2008, 20:57
If Fletcher is in the team next week something is seriously wrong. He can go and rip it up for Subi for the rest of the year, but he plays with no guts and no heart. Runs around like he doesn't know where he's going, never chases and can't tackle.

And his disposal is amongst the worst in the team (never thought I'd say that four years ago).

greennick
20 Apr 2008, 20:58
Luckily for Fletcher he has his clothing label to fall back on. Hopefully he can still get it in stores when he is no longer an AFL player!

greennick
20 Apr 2008, 21:04
Nicoski should not be dropped. They will persist with him as he needs to work he way back into form. He is doing that, improving every week (although he was pretty good in round 1).

I think we should give Cones one more go and then bring Kennedy in for the home game the week after.

Who are we playing the week after?

beatlesmith
20 Apr 2008, 21:11
out: Braun
in: Ebert
Braun was atrocious and he just can't keep up with the pace.

out: Army
In: Staker
Army was ok but this is based more on matchups as we could exploit WB undersized defence. Play staker as a small on the flank because of his speed and atheticism and then he could be a marking option at contests.

Out: Fletcher
In: Schofield
Give schoey a paddock on the wing to run on. Gives good rebound and could line up on small and big opponents

Out:Cones
In: Kennedy
Shake things up a bit, give him a go. Cones was dissappointing

Jimmy_the_Gent
20 Apr 2008, 21:14
We have more players who need to be dropped than we do players who legitimately deserve an AFL game. That's something we have to come to grips with, it's not the same team as it was last year or the year before that - we now have to play bad players because everyone else is worse or not ready.

Suma
20 Apr 2008, 21:17
IN: KENNEDY

OUT: C. JONES (for good).


Some faith has to be shown that next week we will pick up where we left off. Wholesale changes would be a mistake at this stage. Although Staker and Hansen could push for selection.

WCE57
20 Apr 2008, 21:25
We have more players who need to be dropped than we do players who legitimately deserve an AFL game. That's something we have to come to grips with, it's not the same team as it was last year or the year before that - we now have to play bad players because everyone else is worse or not ready.

Spot on :thumbsu:

We would better off with 1 or 2 changes to the side. We can't afford to make 4 changes every week before the player lose all hope / confidence.

greennick
20 Apr 2008, 21:25
out: Braun
in: Ebert
Braun was atrocious and he just can't keep up with the pace.

Braun looked good in the centre though. I don't think he will be dropped anyway. I just hope he no longer plays on the wing, but plays around the stoppages, we are missing the hardness of a few players there and he fills that gap well.

hank_Bulger99
20 Apr 2008, 21:28
If Fletcher is in the team next week something is seriously wrong. He can go and rip it up for Subi for the rest of the year, but he plays with no guts and no heart. Runs around like he doesn't know where he's going, never chases and can't tackle.

And his disposal is amongst the worst in the team (never thought I'd say that four years ago).

the scapegoat is back. he was one of the few geting clearances and his hands were exceptional in the first half. that handball over the head to stenglein when being tackled by 2 was first class. anyone other than fletch would of been talked up how great it was. then he was benched basically in the second half, while all the front runners came into it when the game was already lost. to think to drop him before some of the other insipid performances cannot be justified.

mitchzz
20 Apr 2008, 21:29
Wasn't Braun gonna be dropped to play on Friday though?

eagledream
20 Apr 2008, 21:29
Fletcher is absolute shithouse. I made a point of watching his clangers. I counted 5 in the first half where he turned the ball over kicking it straight to the opposition without being under pressure. His disposal quiet frankly is abysmal. If Fletch doesn't get dropped next week i'll eat my hat. Nicko was ok at times, i'd retain him. Cones was a dud. McKinley was a champ, beautiful straight kick. Masten started off a bit dodgy, made a few errors but worked his way into the game. Lynch started to come good. I thought Embley was quiet good today.. I don't think we're that far away from a win. We wont play finals but this'll be a good year to blood the kids and find out who can play. Oh yeah, bring Kennedy back in next week.

Out - Cones, Fletcher
In - Kennedy, Ebert

If Hansen gets another shot i'll eat my other hat.

eagledream
20 Apr 2008, 21:31
the scapegoat is back. he was one of the few geting clearances and his hands were exceptional in the first half. that handball over the head to stenglein when being tackled by 2 was first class. anyone other than fletch would of been talked up how great it was. then he was benched basically in the second half, while all the front runners came into it when the game was already lost. to think to drop him before some of the other insipid performances cannot be justified.


Who would you drop before Fletcher?? His disposal was attrocious!!! An absolute disgrace. He doesn't deserve to be in the team at this stage because quiet frankly, he just isn't good enough.

hank_Bulger99
20 Apr 2008, 21:32
Fletcher is absolute shithouse. I made a point of watching his clangers. I counted 5 in the first half where he turned the ball over kicking it straight to the opposition without being under pressure. His disposal quiet frankly is abysmal. If Fletch doesn't get dropped next week i'll eat my hat. Nicko was ok at times, i'd retain him. Cones was a dud. McKinley was a champ, beautiful straight kick. Masten started off a bit dodgy, made a few errors but worked his way into the game. Lynch started to come good. I thought Embley was quiet good today.. I don't think we're that far away from a win. We wont play finals but this'll be a good year to blood the kids and find out who can play. Oh yeah, bring Kennedy back in next week.

Out - Cones, Fletcher
In - Kennedy, Ebert

If Hansen gets another shot i'll eat my other hat.

yer fletcher was the only one who made errors the whole game. :rolleyes: he was in the top 3 eagles at half time easily

larrikin
20 Apr 2008, 21:32
Who would you drop before Fletcher?? His disposal was attrocious!!! An absolute disgrace. He doesn't deserve to be in the team at this stage because quiet frankly, he just isn't good enough.
He'll be the first target for the big red stamp

hank_Bulger99
20 Apr 2008, 21:33
Who would you drop before Fletcher?? His disposal was attrocious!!! An absolute disgrace. He doesn't deserve to be in the team at this stage because quiet frankly, he just isn't good enough.

kerr - not only was he flogged his man dominated

braun appart from his last quarter

Crimson King
20 Apr 2008, 21:40
Fletcher's career at WCE could be over..and that is not on back of today's game. He has been carried for many games now and he hasnt showed anything yet. He can get all the clearances and possessions he likes, in the end it comes down to what he does with it, that's what defines a midfielder. He does nothing with it. Its like he is happy wrapping up the numbers and he couldnt care less about the effiency. Also he cant tackle for shit.

MaxHunt
20 Apr 2008, 21:43
Braun looked good in the centre though. I don't think he will be dropped anyway. I just hope he no longer plays on the wing, but plays around the stoppages, we are missing the hardness of a few players there and he fills that gap well.

Agreed! I also think kerr is not getting enough protection at the bounces and i think braun will let his own game suffer to put in the big blocks.

Would love to see staker replace him on the wing and told to move it into the forward line quickly. He wouldn't have to think too much and when he just plays using his first instinct he does pretty well.

Free Flowing attack is only the way forward for us now. Fridge in the forward line too!

Rids
20 Apr 2008, 21:44
Who would you drop before Fletcher?? His disposal was attrocious!!! An absolute disgrace. He doesn't deserve to be in the team at this stage because quiet frankly, he just isn't good enough.

I agree with Hank Bulger - I can't beleive what a scapegoat is being made out of Fletch, somebody even said that they were purposely looking out for his clangers today ... funny how when you are looking for something it will occur, but fact is that you would have had the same result with about 15 of his mates today.

Fletch's disposal wasn't great today but he did get his hands on the ball a lot and plenty of times in contested situations which is more than what could be said for many others.

Fletch should not be considered for dropping whilst Priddis is out of the side, we just don't have the ball winners to be able to afford to do it (have a look at our possession count against Sydney as an example).

As for answering the question who would I drop in front of him ... well:

Nicoski - indecisive and defensive skills look shot - give him a few weeks at Subi to get his confidence up.
C Jones - hate dropping guys after only one week in so wouldn't mind if he gets another crack but was very poor today
Army - not bad defensive job on Peter Burgoyne but just not getting enough of it for a forward
Braun - just looks like he has lost a lot of pace, wonder if he is carrying anything?

There a few others that would be under the gun as well.

For me:
Out: C Jones, Braun, Nicoski, Armstrong
In: Staker, Kennedy, McNamara, Schofield

wce_all_da_way
20 Apr 2008, 21:51
Would love to see Schofield get a game next week. Has a good long kick on him and plays that way, isn't a very handball prone player (which I'm not syaing is bad, just need some more players like Scho).

Kennedy for Cones, although I think Cones' effort after he ____ed up was very good.

Staker back in providing he's alright.

JMac maybe, not sure. Didn't have WAFL so maybe another week out.

As to outs, not too sure. Maybe a Fletcher who didn't play that well today. Cones as said before. Lynch a possibility but I don't think it will happen. Nico as has been stated needs to pick it up.

hank_Bulger99
20 Apr 2008, 21:55
I agree with Hank Bulger - I can't beleive what a scapegoat is being made out of Fletch, somebody even said that they were purposely looking out for his clangers today ... funny how when you are looking for something it will occur, but fact is that you would have had the same result with about 15 of his mates today.

Fletch's disposal wasn't great today but he did get his hands on the ball a lot and plenty of times in contested situations which is more than what could be said for many others.

Fletch should not be considered for dropping whilst Priddis is out of the side, we just don't have the ball winners to be able to afford to do it (have a look at our possession count against Sydney as an example).

As for answering the question who would I drop in front of him ... well:

Nicoski - indecisive and defensive skills look shot - give him a few weeks at Subi to get his confidence up.
C Jones - hate dropping guys after only one week in so wouldn't mind if he gets another crack but was very poor today
Army - not bad defensive job on Peter Burgoyne but just not getting enough of it for a forward
Braun - just looks like he has lost a lot of pace, wonder if he is carrying anything?

There a few others that would be under the gun as well.

For me:
Out: C Jones, Braun, Nicoski, Armstrong
In: Staker, Kennedy, McNamara, Schofield

but he will thats why he was on teh bench most of the second half so woosh has a scapegoat. made his numbers smaller which makes him look worse.

does anyone ever take a look at what kerr does? cant kick, opponent gets bucket loads of the ball, gets in peoples way, puts players under pressure constantly. bloody fletch was the only one trying to help kerr out by laying blocks on kornes, but since rojo also did this it dosnt really mean anything to supporters who will go along with what is bantered around

hawk-boy
20 Apr 2008, 21:56
went to the game and im not as angry as the rest of you are the last 15 min of the last quarter was asume, it really shows we can play great footy, and in my mind nicksoki played alright not as bad as you guys are saying.


OUT - Cones , Braun , Fletcher

IN - Kennedy, Ebert, Jmac

chrsco
20 Apr 2008, 21:57
the scapegoat is back. he was one of the few geting clearances and his hands were exceptional in the first half. that handball over the head to stenglein when being tackled by 2 was first class. anyone other than fletch would of been talked up how great it was. then he was benched basically in the second half, while all the front runners came into it when the game was already lost. to think to drop him before some of the other insipid performances cannot be justified.

Yep, I said that earlier this week Hank. People were going to watch for his errors, it was inevitable. We can't have 4 inexperienced midfielders, if we drop Kerr as well, in the one team, we need the more experienced to provide some cover for them.

sTeeL
20 Apr 2008, 22:07
Out: C Jones, Armstrong, Spangher
In: Kennedy, Ebert, Staker

Jones and Armstrong were abysmal. Nothing against Spangher just noone sprung to mind as a replacement for Staker

Ebert and Kennedy must be played.

Seadog
20 Apr 2008, 22:16
but he will thats why he was on teh bench most of the second half so woosh has a scapegoat. made his numbers smaller which makes him look worse.

does anyone ever take a look at what kerr does? cant kick, opponent gets bucket loads of the ball, gets in peoples way, puts players under pressure constantly. bloody fletch was the only one trying to help kerr out by laying blocks on kornes, but since rojo also did this it dosnt really mean anything to supporters who will go along with what is bantered around

You're not related to Fletcher by any chance are you.
By any criteria he was bloody ordinary today. His piss poor kicking aside too many times when the ball was there to be won he stayed off the pack and hoped some other poor suck going against 2 or 3 Port players would get it out to him.
I'm not a Fletcher hater but he didn't rectify any of the things today that saw him get dropped in the first place.

Cuzz09
20 Apr 2008, 22:24
Dogs like to run and run and run.

If we dont man up we will get slaughtered!

they run in waves.

Also their forward line is unpredictable - cant give them too much space.

anti.
20 Apr 2008, 22:25
i give us a real chance against the dogs.

if we go with intent, we'll take it upto them. got to bring our tackling game.

Crimson King
20 Apr 2008, 22:27
If we lose our inhibitions again, we will smash em.:p

Prem87
20 Apr 2008, 22:30
Bring Scotty Selwood in. Put him on a HFF to bring some defensive pressure into the forward line.

West Coast 06
20 Apr 2008, 22:33
You're not related to Fletcher by any chance are you.
By any criteria he was bloody ordinary today. His piss poor kicking aside too many times when the ball was there to be won he stayed off the pack and hoped some other poor suck going against 2 or 3 Port players would get it out to him.
I'm not a Fletcher hater but he didn't rectify any of the things today that saw him get dropped in the first place.I'm pretty sure he is Fletcher, either that or Fletchers mum.

Yep, I said that earlier this week Hank. People were going to watch for his errors, it was inevitable. We can't have 4 inexperienced midfielders, if we drop Kerr as well, in the one team, we need the more experienced to provide some cover for them.
As if that is going to happen.


as for staker, i dont know if he's needed right now. give him a few weeks in the WAFL and make him earn a spot. rather see schoey or ebert get a go.
Why should Staker have to earn his spot? He has been one of our best players this year (not hard I know). It is hardly his fault he got concussed, he should get his spot straight back AFAIC.

I think we really need to focus on the things we did right in the last quarter today. I am hoping that it will give the boys some confidence that they can carry forward to next week, it was like watching our old team again.

I would say Spangher out for Staker, Spangher tried hard but his inexperience was really exploited by Port today.

Ebert in for Fletcher. I am not a Fletcher hater but he is never going to be any better a player than he is now. Ebert has a date with our future and needs the run more.

Cones out for Kennedy. I am not really bothered if this move doesn't happen, would be happy for Cones to extend his chance for a couple of weeks.

Part of me thinks that Kennedy would be better off debuting away from the Subi crowd, who can be merciless and will eat him alive if he doesn't star in his first game, as he was part of the Judd trade. I dont know if I would be keen to see him come in against Carlton first up either. Just little things I've heard about him trying too hard and the like make me think debut him away from home.

So IN: Ebert, Staker, Kennedy
OUT: Spangher, Fletcher, Cones

peterss
20 Apr 2008, 22:49
IN: KENNEDY!!!!!, Schofield, McNamara
OUT: C. Jones, Nicoski, Fletcher

SOSBenny
20 Apr 2008, 23:06
We are all pinning our hopes on young Kennedy to come straight into the team, for his first senior game with a new team, and set the world on fire!
I hope the pressure doesn't get to him. Otherwise god knows where we will turn next :confused:

Still...C'mon Kenners!!! Deliver the goods :)

larrikin
21 Apr 2008, 00:08
We are all pinning our hopes on young Kennedy to come straight into the team, for his first senior game with a new team, and set the world on fire!
I hope the pressure doesn't get to him. Otherwise god knows where we will turn next :confused:

Still...C'mon Kenners!!! Deliver the goods :)
I don't think anyone's expecting hime to kick 6 goals. But a decent contest from a big body would be useful

Cuzz09
21 Apr 2008, 00:12
How long away is Priddis?

We miss him.

West Coast 06
21 Apr 2008, 00:15
How long away is Priddis?

We miss him.
Double that for LeCras. He has been out for four weeks now, originaly said out for 3-5 so hopefully will be back soon. (Please dont turn into a Butler scenario.:()

Cuzz09
21 Apr 2008, 00:18
Double that for LeCras. He has been out for four weeks now, originaly said out for 3-5 so hopefully will be back soon. (Please dont turn into a Butler scenario.:()

Hmmmm... Dont mention the B name....

Poor guy.

Yeah be nice couple of players to have back in the team Priddis and LeCras geez that'd make a difference.

happy_eagle
21 Apr 2008, 00:22
Has Brad ebert gone off the radar

looked alright in his first 2 games

Crimson King
21 Apr 2008, 00:28
Priddis will miss the next game and Lecca should be back for the Carltank game too. Hopefully..

Kernel Sanders
21 Apr 2008, 00:33
the scapegoat is back. he was one of the few geting clearances and his hands were exceptional in the first half. that handball over the head to stenglein when being tackled by 2 was first class. anyone other than fletch would of been talked up how great it was. then he was benched basically in the second half, while all the front runners came into it when the game was already lost. to think to drop him before some of the other insipid performances cannot be justified.
:thumbsu:

I'm a big Fletcher basher, has one played one good game since mid 05, being the 06GF.

Too slow, woeful, insipid, lazy, bad skills etc...

But the the 1st qtr and a half, he was playing inspired footy, like a man possessed and playing for his career. Chased, tackled, great in close, quick, good hands and just really switched on.

Now I didn't notice him in the second half so either he was on the bench or had no turn-overs?

He actually showed something, I wouldn't drop him.

I can't believe I've said that. Time to wash my mouth out with soap.

Cuzz09
21 Apr 2008, 00:36
I wouldnt drop Fletch.

He was pretty good early I agree, one of the ones who was.

wce0632
21 Apr 2008, 00:38
IN: Kennedy Schofield S.Selwood
OUT: C.Jones Nicoski Stenglein (?)

I wouldn't drop Fletcher. He might have poor disposal at times and miss a tackle here or there (don't they all?) but he is one guy who always dives in to get the ball, putting his body on the line. My dad bags the hell out of Fletch so I was paying particular attention to him today, and I must say, he didn't do too badly.

I wouldn't drop Armstrong either, you can tell he is really, really keen/hungry to keep his spot for a while longer. I think he has been playing pretty damn well the last two weeks.

I really want to see Schofield in. Stenglein wasn't too bad today but his decision making has frustrated me for most of this season, I doubt he'll get dropped but I think he is under pressure. Nicoski just has to go back to the WAFL for a stint me thinks.

It's a toss up for me between C.Jones and Lynch going out of the side..do we give Jones another chance or stick with Lynchy? At times today he looked like he was a 70 y.o grandpa running around out there..but I do like the guy. Perhaps they'll both go out and Hamstring Hansen and Kennedy will come in together?

Genesis67
21 Apr 2008, 00:38
In: Staker, LeCras (if fit), S. Selwood
Out: Armstrong (sorry Army :(), Fletcher, Nicoski

Cuzz09
21 Apr 2008, 00:43
In: Staker, LeCras (if fit), S. Selwood
Out: Armstrong (sorry Army :(), Fletcher, Nicoski

doubt LeCras will be fit from what Ive read on here.

shoe
21 Apr 2008, 00:47
kerr - not only was he flogged his man dominated

braun appart from his last quarter
I don't understand why you are always sticking up for Fletcher. Aren't you seeing the same things? Do you know him or something? Just can't comprehend how you could possibly stand up for Fletch and then suggesting dropping Kerr.
Though i do agree he wasn't as horribly terrible this week as everyone is making out.

To be honest i'm not that fussed about selection as long as they do NOT rush Hansen back in. Our selection panel seems to 'drop' the experienced players for 1 game, then rush them back in. Wouldn't mind seeing Kennedy getting a go.
I thought Cones tried really hard but just wasn't bulky enough - his opponent kept outmuscling him. Unlucky several times. Just had one of those games where things weren't going his way.

Cuzz09
21 Apr 2008, 00:49
Just wondering.....

If Matty Spangher is injured or sore how is Jamie Graham travelling??

I think he would be a pretty good replacement but only if Spangher isnt right.

Spangher looks alright I reckon, put on a bit of muscle, he's a keeper.:thumbsu:

Cuzz09
21 Apr 2008, 00:50
I thought Cones tried really hard but just wasn't bulky enough - his opponent kept outmuscling him. Unlucky several times. Just had one of those games where things weren't going his way.

THats why I wouldnt be surprised to see him stay in the side for the Doggies game, keep the dogs backline under pressure with some big guys down there.

deeps
21 Apr 2008, 03:51
Nicoski mad a couple of errors, but he was alright for me. He provided some run at least.

Guess who played on Ebert in the last qrtr? He was defensively SO poor, and used the ball so badly.. He was ok in the last quarter when he got the ball, but for 3 quarters, he was useless when he got the ball.

deeps
21 Apr 2008, 03:56
Out: C Jones, Armstrong, Spangher
In: Kennedy, Ebert, Staker

Jones and Armstrong were abysmal. Nothing against Spangher just noone sprung to mind as a replacement for Staker

Ebert and Kennedy must be played.

Considering how little the ball was in ur 50, i think Armstrong did a great job. Seems to be one of the first names mentioned for dropping every week, but there's alot worse players that should go first.

wce0632
21 Apr 2008, 04:08
Considering how little the ball was in ur 50, i think Armstrong did a great job. Seems to be one of the first names mentioned for dropping every week, but there's alot worse players that should go first.

:):thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu::)

Thank you, thank you very much. Army suits the role he is playing, he does it with heart and does it well imo.
Until Lecca is back, I don't see why WCE would drop him.

EagleMan87
21 Apr 2008, 10:22
No change.

TheBigUnit
21 Apr 2008, 11:14
IN: J.Kennedy, Schofield, Staker, Ebert/S.Selwood/McNamara/Houlihan
OUT: C.Jones, Nicoski, Spangher, Fletcher

- C.Jones is a 1 dimensional forward, won't be effective unless he's given space to lead into - not a strong contested mark (too much like Hansen).
- Nicoski should be given attacking roles i.e. wing/HFF (his defensive skills are woeful), if not drop him and get Schofield in, who's far better defensively.
- Fletcher just didn't add enough to the midfield - if he was dropped for his poor disposal/costly clangers previously, then he should be dropped again.

larrikin
21 Apr 2008, 11:29
Guess who played on Ebert in the last qrtr? He was defensively SO poor, and used the ball so badly.. He was ok in the last quarter when he got the ball, but for 3 quarters, he was useless when he got the ball.
No one was playing on Ebert for a while there

Embers
21 Apr 2008, 12:40
Shannon Hurn should spend a fortnight in the WAFL. Show some fricken intensity and heart son

IN: J-Mac Staker
OUT: Hurn Cones

Nicoski gets another week cos he wasnt as bad as Hurn was yesterday

deeps
21 Apr 2008, 13:44
No one was playing on Ebert for a while there

Well, somewhere towards the end of the 3rd quarter, at every centre bounce, Nicoski was on Ebert. That is when Ebert began to find his feet.

The reason why nobody was on Ebert, was that Nicoski wasn't marking his man. Once or twice someone else tried to cover him, but at every bounce, it was Nicoski that went to him.

daddy_4_eyes
21 Apr 2008, 14:17
Out: Nicoski, Cones
In: Kennedy, Staker

Would also like to see Braun used in the guts more. As the commentators noted, he is too slow for the wings but seems to have really good sense in the centre.
Keep Lynch at CHF, he seems to play better with the extra space outside the 50, while as a FF he struggles.

Spangher is exciting, I now would be confident if Woosha rested Glass as Spangher can hold his own, and will only get better if he plays on quality forwards. If Glass is injured, I'd like to see him rested so he can recover. Especially with Staker returning, I think we can afford that luxury.

dynamite_kid
21 Apr 2008, 14:38
I think it's a bit premature to rest Glass, Spangher's only played two games remeber.

royalsfan
21 Apr 2008, 20:05
but he will thats why he was on teh bench most of the second half so woosh has a scapegoat. made his numbers smaller which makes him look worse.

does anyone ever take a look at what kerr does? cant kick, opponent gets bucket loads of the ball, gets in peoples way, puts players under pressure constantly. bloody fletch was the only one trying to help kerr out by laying blocks on kornes, but since rojo also did this it dosnt really mean anything to supporters who will go along with what is bantered around

You seem to have a problem with young Daniel! You never miss a chance to have a go at him - we can take your posts as seriously as we do those of the serial Fletcher haters.

eagles rule
21 Apr 2008, 22:11
No changes unless injured.

IMO; Based on the last quarter I feel the team were starting to get a

bit of chemistry and I think even with the skill errors and poor

confidence they hung in there and were beginning to turn it around.

Crimson King
21 Apr 2008, 22:13
I'm telling ya Josh is a must. He will crash the packs and leave nothing behind.

EagleMan87
21 Apr 2008, 22:36
You seem to have a problem with young Daniel! You never miss a chance to have a go at him - we can take your posts as seriously as we do those of the serial Fletcher haters.

He's right though, Kerr was woeful save for the last few minutes.

Even when he got the ball he just absolutely shanked it. I'd say he's getting frustrated with the lack of blocks provided by the other midfielders, and the others are getting up him for not trying as hard.

I'd say it may take a while before this new midfield learns to do it with the efficiency that Rojo used to, but Braun seems tailor made for the role.

Eagles 4 Mine
21 Apr 2008, 22:59
I would like to see Hurn played on the HFF and rotate on ball.

Cuzz09
21 Apr 2008, 23:05
small forwards kill us - year after year after year.

Motlop, Ebert - 8 goals between them - they hadnt kicked 8 total the other 4 games.

Bulldogs have B.Johnson, Welsh and a million other little guys.

This game is gonna be a shoot out.

archiemoses
22 Apr 2008, 02:27
In: Schofield, Kennedy, Ebert, McNamara
Out: Fletcher, Braun, C. Jones, Nicoski

Keep Braun drop Rosa. Braun does some good things, Rosa just doesn't do anything.