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richmond fanatic
26 Apr 2008, 12:39
Would you guys have any interest as a short-term replacement for James Clement? 3rd or 4th rounder maybe?

Chase the Ace
26 Apr 2008, 12:43
Only if you throw in Deledio and Foley

SIDE BY SIDE
26 Apr 2008, 12:45
Foley and Raines are the only ones i would take from Richmond.

smiddaz123
26 Apr 2008, 13:10
Haha no. Clement was accountable for his man. That's the difference between the two.

Foley
Deledio
Thursfield
Riewoldt
Tambling

Only player that I'd like from Richmond.

mdc
26 Apr 2008, 13:23
Haha no. Clement was accountable for his man. That's the difference between the two.

Foley
Deledio
Thursfield
Riewoldt
Tambling

Only player that I'd like from Richmond.

Pass.

I'd happily take Newman and King as well.

As for Bowden, funny stuff.

smiddaz123
26 Apr 2008, 13:27
Pass.

I'd happily take Newman and King as well.

As for Bowden, funny stuff.
Are you one of the people who believe the bigfooty crap?

He's talented, just suffered from the Richmond development disease.

If Collingwood can turn Leon Davis into the player he is, they could turn Tambling into an AA forward, because Tambling has the potential to be easily better than Leon Davis.

mdc
26 Apr 2008, 13:30
Are you one of the people who believe the bigfooty crap?

He's talented, just suffered from the Richmond development disease.

If Collingwood can turn Leon Davis into the player he is, they could turn Tambling into an AA forward, because Tambling has the potential to be easily better than Leon Davis.

Are you one of the people who believe just because a player was taken in the top 5 means he's bound to be a star?

He's not elite in any facet of the game, he's undersized, he's weak physically, and his mental fortitude is very, very questionable.

Like I said, pass.

MagpieGirl_13
26 Apr 2008, 13:31
Clement is irreplacable.
The only potential candidate for his replacement already wears the B&W.;)

richmond fanatic
26 Apr 2008, 13:37
Are you one of the people who believe just because a player was taken in the top 5 means he's bound to be a star?

He's not elite in any facet of the game, he's undersized, he's weak physically, and his mental fortitude is very, very questionable.

Like I said, pass.
Have you not watched Tambling this year?

Bazzar
26 Apr 2008, 13:43
Are you one of the people who believe just because a player was taken in the top 5 means he's bound to be a star?

He's not elite in any facet of the game, he's undersized, he's weak physically, and his mental fortitude is very, very questionable.

Like I said, pass.

You cant be serious. From the last 6 games until now he has clearly shown he is a top 10 pick.

And those who think he is weak and undersized should schedule an appointment with their ophthalmologists first thing Monday morning

mdc
26 Apr 2008, 13:50
Okay, I should probably re-phrase.

We'd take Tambling ahead of guys like Lonie, Iles etc...so he'd make our list. I just couldn't see him making our 22 any time soon. For the poster above, I've seen 3/6 richmond games this year - maybe he played fantastic the other 3. I guess it's possible.

OniAu
26 Apr 2008, 13:50
mydarlingclementine u could have been mistaken for talking about leon davis from his earlier years and look how hes turned out

tamblings getting better , its not as if leon davis was tearing apart the competition in his earlier years. i see them as similar type position players at the same stage in their careers.

leon was easily brushed off the ball earlier in his career and nothing more than an inconsistent forward pocket. its a credit to him the way hes improved his game.

deledio and foley are two players id be keen on for the pies.

as for king i like him as a player, but he seems a bit undersized? hes agressive and hard at the ball and runs all day and does the team things, but we already have one of those in maxwell. people go on about maxwell being undersized and not having a position in the team (which i think is crap), king would be much worse.

oh as for bowden i dunno if we would need him ? goldsack and shaw provide our run from half back, they are both very accountable. i dont think we need a floater in our backline looking for easy kicks

smiddaz123
26 Apr 2008, 13:52
Are you one of the people who believe just because a player was taken in the top 5 means he's bound to be a star?

He's not elite in any facet of the game, he's undersized, he's weak physically, and his mental fortitude is very, very questionable.

Like I said, pass.
Watch him play. He has obvious talent. Collingwood would be able to extract the talent just as well as any other club.

Lazyboy
26 Apr 2008, 14:16
I would give up our 1st pick this year and someone like Johnson for Deledio. I think Johno would excel at another club, same story for deledio.

golazo
26 Apr 2008, 14:18
He's a bigger squib than Chris Egan, no thanks.

Thommo 42
26 Apr 2008, 14:48
I don't rate Bowden particularly high, but Id definately give a 3rd rounder for him.

The Majestic
26 Apr 2008, 15:33
Would you guys have any interest as a short-term replacement for James Clement? 3rd or 4th rounder maybe?

I'd be more interested in a long-term replacement, since we'd have to find a long term one in the future if we took Bowden we might as well bite the bullet and do it now which is what we are attempting to do.

pendles
26 Apr 2008, 15:40
Cheapy cheapy mc kick kick

kevind
26 Apr 2008, 15:47
Would you guys have any interest as a short-term replacement for James Clement? 3rd or 4th rounder maybe?


Bowden is a good footballer but not the type of player we require. Deledio, Crotchin(by reputation) and Foley would fit our required player category and possibly Tambling, although, is his current form the true Richard Tambling and a turning point in his career or a false dawn?????

The Royal Sampler
26 Apr 2008, 15:59
Not interested in Bowden. We have Brown coming through, Anthony waiting in the wings, O'Brien is already doing the job and Wakeling holding up an end.

Midfielders should be our priority for the next draft/trade period.

Jabso
26 Apr 2008, 16:44
How old is he? Him for a 3rd rounder or even 2nd rounder would be a steal and IMO make us a better team. It could move H.Shaw further up the ground. He could play on small defenders as we have the room for him to do that.

One player I wouldn't mind us picking up cheaply is David Johnson. A shutdown type small defender is what we need. Although with Brown stepping up Goldsack and O'Brien can now play smaller so it's not that great a problem. Also we hardly have any room on our list. If one of Cook/Stanley goes, perhaps both Iles/Toovey and Bryan with Wellingham being promoted that's still only 3-4 spots on our list available and I'd like to see us still use the draft.

Rohan25
26 Apr 2008, 17:18
Yeah I'd take Bowden. Someone upthread said Raines, but I wouldn't take him. Too many turnovers.

magpies42
26 Apr 2008, 17:22
you cant completelty replace clement with anybody. our defense will be rock solid by next year, excluding injury ofcourse. having bowden as a depth player could be good...

doggiesin08
26 Apr 2008, 17:22
Okay, I should probably re-phrase.

We'd take Tambling ahead of guys like Lonie, Iles etc...so he'd make our list. I just couldn't see him making our 22 any time soon. For the poster above, I've seen 3/6 richmond games this year - maybe he played fantastic the other 3. I guess it's possible.
yet toovey has?

The Royal Sampler
26 Apr 2008, 17:34
If one of Cook/Stanley goes, perhaps both Iles/Toovey and Bryan with Wellingham being promoted that's still only 3-4 spots on our list available and I'd like to see us still use the draft.
There's just no way I can see Bryan being delisted. If we get rid of him, we have Fraser, Wood, and Keeffe on the rookie list. Any injuries and we're stuffed. Thoolen might step up, but being a bottom-aged pinch-hitting ruckman is not an iron-clad guarantee of any description.

Unless we pick up another ruckman in trade or PSD, which is very unlikely, Bryan will be there in '09.

Dead Eye Didak
26 Apr 2008, 18:04
Maybe about 3 years ago, now you're kidding. If you think Bowden will be a handy pickup, maybe we should also consider redrafting Guy Richards!

Jabso
26 Apr 2008, 20:19
There's just no way I can see Bryan being delisted. If we get rid of him, we have Fraser, Wood, and Keeffe on the rookie list. Any injuries and we're stuffed. Thoolen might step up, but being a bottom-aged pinch-hitting ruckman is not an iron-clad guarantee of any description.

Unless we pick up another ruckman in trade or PSD, which is very unlikely, Bryan will be there in '09.

I think Bryan would be only delisted after the national draft if we pick up a ruckman. Even then though your point is valid a 18/19 year old ruckman will not be great backup anyway.

bradrowe#32
26 Apr 2008, 21:09
yet toovey has?

Toovey is not in our best 22.

OniAu
27 Apr 2008, 02:41
bryan has till the end of 2010 surely, i know that seems a long time but think of the time we had richards on our list.

if we do get a season ending injury to josh or cam wood then bryan is more tahn ready to step it up, theres a lot more players under pressure than bryan atm to retain a spot on our list

dalethomas13
27 Apr 2008, 02:59
Fair question mate, however, there isn't any hope of Collingwood wanting Joel Bowden- even if he was free.

Simply a case of going with youth.

Ron
27 Apr 2008, 03:28
I wouldn't give up a top 40 pick for him, so it would have to be a third rounder most likely.

Tiges would want more than that anyway.

Collingwoodrow
27 Apr 2008, 18:21
Absolutely no hope......the guy cant get a game for Richmonod, why on earth would we be wanting him?

The only reason I'd let him through the doors at Lexus is so he could hand over his 2006 AA award to James Clement. One of the most ridiculous "stat decided" award ever given.

Give me Foley.

the_fresh
27 Apr 2008, 18:54
try eBay, you might find a buyer there.

FadeAway
27 Apr 2008, 21:06
Would you guys have any interest as a short-term replacement for James Clement? 3rd or 4th rounder maybe?

nope!

MarkT
27 Apr 2008, 23:42
Wakelin will retire at the end of the year. Presti has had a few injuries. I want to win a premiership soon. I reckon Bowden could help. 3rd rounder is a reasonable price subject to what Hine thinks he’d get out of the draft. I’d definitely pay a 4th rounder.

ShepBoy
27 Apr 2008, 23:45
Would you guys have any interest as a short-term replacement for James Clement? 3rd or 4th rounder maybe?

You missed April Fools Day by a couple of weeks.

pendles
28 Apr 2008, 10:54
Would you guys have any interest as a short-term replacement for James Clement? 3rd or 4th rounder maybe?

I just threw up a little bit in my mouth at this thought.

Even if we had a 13th or 14th rounder, we wouldn't make this deal.

4#Didak#4
28 Apr 2008, 19:06
I am not a Bowden hater but he isn't really for us. How many years left in him? Freo probably would throw a bit at him - seems to be in the right age bracket for them.

If the Tiges are trying to unload him they are doing no favours for themselves playing him in the twos.