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Ricky_15
27 Apr 2008, 20:33
In: Valenti Maric or bate
Out: Warnock Dunn

I think its almost at the point where it is a joke valenti isnt making our side.
I watched him yesterday and the guy is a freak. Had 28 pos and kicked afew goals.
He should play every game for the rest of the year.

Hopefully maric can also get a game ( looked very good aswell)

Deefolt
27 Apr 2008, 20:35
In: Valenti Maric or bate
Out: Warnock Dunn

I think its almost at the point where it is a joke valenti isnt making our side.
I watched him yesterday and the guy is a freak. Had 28 pos and kicked afew goals.
He should play every game for the rest of the year.

Hopefully maric can also get a game ( looked very good aswell)
warnock looked good, why take our extra defender out, take out a shit defender thats old and keep warnock in, i know wheatley... he is shit and bring whelan in, we miss him :)

Supermercado
27 Apr 2008, 20:36
More importantly let's discuss crowd against Freo.

I don't reckon we're a chance to go the 1992 Brisbane vs North game that drew a whopping 6396, but 10 or 11k is a massive possibility. Be there for history!

Ricky_15
27 Apr 2008, 20:38
ye should be 12 or 13

but ill be there

will everyone else?

Supermercado
27 Apr 2008, 20:42
That 6300 was at the MCG by the way. I don't think anyone will manage to top the four crowds under 5k that the Bears managed to draw at Carrara in '92 - topped by a classic 3,059 against Footscray.

CowboyFromHell
27 Apr 2008, 21:10
I'm planning on turning up at 2:05pm and having the whole Southern Stand to myself.

As for changes, get Bate, Whelan and Valenti in. Drop Morton, Dunn and one one of Wheatley or Bell.

dee-molishon
27 Apr 2008, 21:31
HMMMM get pavlich in your super teams for next week guys he always kills us.

Play Dunn on pavlich see if he can do something.

Ricky_15
27 Apr 2008, 21:35
dunn on pavlich????????????

why not play woenamirri in the ruck on sandilands?

Molons
27 Apr 2008, 21:36
normally can't get to sunday games kose of footy but we have a bye this week so i'll head on down.

I don't think that they can ignore valenti any more. and maybe they should bring maric in aswell.

dee-molishon
27 Apr 2008, 21:46
dunn on pavlich????????????

why not play woenamirri in the ruck on sandilands?

not bad thinking.

Whats the point in putting someone like caroll or miller on pavlich they will get killed anyway, at least dunn will get some expierence out of it.

Headless
27 Apr 2008, 22:06
Wondering...

... Is it against the rules to not have a ruckman and have an extra rover to shark Sandilands' taps?

'Cause that'd be kinda funny... :o

chook2734
27 Apr 2008, 22:20
Wondering...

... Is it against the rules to not have a ruckman and have an extra rover to shark Sandilands' taps?

'Cause that'd be kinda funny... :o

Freo used that tactic at times last year with Gilmore when Sandilands was out injured. I think you probably do have to have a designated player to stand on the circle supposed to be contesting the ruck knock, but there's no rule to say it must be a ruckman.

Bartram_Class
27 Apr 2008, 22:20
Wondering...

... Is it against the rules to not have a ruckman and have an extra rover to shark Sandilands' taps?

'Cause that'd be kinda funny... :o
He'd just punch it 30m downfield and it wouldn't help too much.

melbournemartin
27 Apr 2008, 22:47
Recruit Cooney to ruck for us.

Bartram_Class
27 Apr 2008, 22:55
Stuff Valenti.

Bring back the Shrek and throw him into the ruck.

master bate
27 Apr 2008, 23:28
I think we have two options, the first is to bring in Bate and Valenti with Wheatley and Morton making way, Wheatley needs practice hitting targets, Morton could do with stepping back a grade and getting more footy, that said if he needs a rest he gets a week off in a couple of weeks (vics game). That is if Bailey thinks the whole list is struggling. If he needs to give a rocket to the players then I'd add experience in Yze and Holland at the expence of the underperforming Robertson and Bell.

In: Bate, Valenti, Yze, Holland
Out: Wheatley, Morton, Bell, Robertson

I think the reality is that at the moment we have about 30 blokes who can all play and there isn't much difference between them besides probably McLean, Green, Jones and White who are in good form. However they are really struggling to put it together. So either we stick with the same team for a few weeks or try and change it round hoping something will work and getting experience into a few players.

masai
28 Apr 2008, 00:02
If the coaches had a good sense of humour, we could see the following :-

Carroll on Crowley.

White on Warnock.

Sylvia on Farmer.

Morton on Palmer.

melbourne150
28 Apr 2008, 01:44
I hope we bring Maric in i liked the look of him on the weekend, And we could use another small forward(especially when Davey does nothing) and he can also play in the midfield, wich is very handy because we could use some pace in there....And he uses the ball very well.:thumbsu:

And if Valenti doesn't get promoted and come into the team then there is something wrong with Bailey.....

saj_21
28 Apr 2008, 10:15
Valenti and bate in

MicksterD
28 Apr 2008, 18:16
warnock looked good, why take our extra defender out, take out a shit defender thats old and keep warnock in, i know wheatley... he is shit and bring whelan in, we miss him :)

I agree re Warnock - he needs some more game time - I was never a fan but after seeing him on the weekend I thought he did ok.

Capt_Concussion
28 Apr 2008, 22:20
Recruit Cooney to ruck for us.

Haha, that was classic. Cox sucks....


(not really)

Sherman Tank
29 Apr 2008, 03:07
Out: Bell,Morton,Dunn

In: Whelan,Valenti,Bate

Whelan,Warnock,Carroll
Sylvia,Rivers,Frawley
Davey,McLean,Bruce
Moloney,Miller,Green
Robertson,Bate,Wonaeamirri
White,McDonald,Jones
Jamar,Valenti,Wheatley,Bartram

I'd start Bate at Full Forward because I think Miller is best suited to the roaming half forward role.

McLean_4_Captain
29 Apr 2008, 15:11
Out: Bell,Morton,Dunn

In: Whelan,Valenti,Bate

Whelan,Warnock,Carroll
Sylvia,Rivers,Frawley
Davey,McLean,Bruce
Moloney,Miller,Green
Robertson,Bate,Wonaeamirri
White,McDonald,Jones
Jamar,Valenti,Wheatley,Bartram

I'd start Bate at Full Forward because I think Miller is best suited to the roaming half forward role.

Rate that as a pretty good team, but i wouldnt drop dunn. You can't complain when a player isn't playing well when he never gets more then 15 minutes in the same spot. I'd get rid of Warnock.

How you have Warnock at full back astounds me, give frawley another go at FB, rivers on pavlich. warnock would have to be the most half-rate player on our list and that includes Jamar, amongst others.

I've recently decided that melbourne only ever contracted warnock at mature age to try to lure his little brother back to melbourne, he is a sandy boy after all. If melbourne do manage to get younger warnock, matt will get a 1 year deal, then gone.

CaptainDavey
29 Apr 2008, 16:32
I don't think we should drop young Bell. We should persist with the lad because when in full flight he's easily in our best back 6 and is capable of a run through the middle. It's not as though we've got anything to lose if we keep playing him. You'd get rid of Warnock *cries* before you'd get rid of Bell.

I swear if Ben Johnson ruined his career I'll be spitting chips!

RandB
29 Apr 2008, 17:08
Warnock looks like he is in good condition, has a decent leap and is willing to do the required 1%ers as a defender. Wouldn't mind seeing him play more and if he can't cut it then at lease we actually gave him a proper go. He's 24 this year so why not try him a bit more?

Sherman Tank
29 Apr 2008, 22:48
How you have Warnock at full back astounds me, give frawley another go at FB, rivers on pavlich. warnock would have to be the most half-rate player on our list and that includes Jamar, amongst others.

Warnock did one thing that our defence has lacked all year in that he got some strong spoils in. It's the basics like these that we can build around. When we opened up in the last qtr Chip looked lost against Bradshaw, he looked much better rebounding off hb against Carlton. Leave Warnock on the goal line & let Chip & Rivvo roam.

BlueZippy
30 Apr 2008, 01:27
Hopefully this game gets a good crowd.

Get on down there all Melbourne supporters, support your club during the tough times! Melbourne are a very good chance at winning this game. :thumbsu:

McLean_4_Captain
30 Apr 2008, 12:45
Warnock did one thing that our defence has lacked all year in that he got some strong spoils in. It's the basics like these that we can build around. When we opened up in the last qtr Chip looked lost against Bradshaw, he looked much better rebounding off hb against Carlton. Leave Warnock on the goal line & let Chip & Rivvo roam.

Warnock may be better then chip now, but there is 5 years difference.

Frawley needs to be groomed into a key defender and hopefully he can hold up our defence for 10 years, so if were down by 8 goals at 1/2 time, let him learn some lessons, but don't destroy him zac dawson style.

And we can't afford to have frawley & rivers roaming our backline, one of them needs to be playing key position.

We can't have all of rivers, frawley, carroll & warnock playing in the back line, its too tall and too slow, you need a few whelans in there. I didnt see all of last weeks game, but if warnock & frawley took bradshaw & rivers was on JB, what did carroll do?

And if warnock is playing so well, with rivers at CHB and frawley or warnock at FB, maybe carroll should be given a run in the 2's??

master bate
30 Apr 2008, 20:24
Warnock may be better then chip now, but there is 5 years difference.

Frawley needs to be groomed into a key defender and hopefully he can hold up our defence for 10 years, so if were down by 8 goals at 1/2 time, let him learn some lessons, but don't destroy him zac dawson style.

And we can't afford to have frawley & rivers roaming our backline, one of them needs to be playing key position.

We can't have all of rivers, frawley, carroll & warnock playing in the back line, its too tall and too slow, you need a few whelans in there. I didnt see all of last weeks game, but if warnock & frawley took bradshaw & rivers was on JB, what did carroll do?

And if warnock is playing so well, with rivers at CHB and frawley or warnock at FB, maybe carroll should be given a run in the 2's??It started with Carroll on Bradshaw and Rivers on Brown but after half time I think Frawley went to Bradshaw and Carroll to Brown but it the game also opened up a bit so Frawley wasn't terrible on Bradshaw but he let him get a few too many goals.

2 Dogs
30 Apr 2008, 21:16
Herald Sun list Paul Johnson as a test. If he's right to go immediate inclusion. Send Jamar to the glue factory and all is right with the world.:p

Lyyynnnchy
1 May 2008, 15:38
Has valenti been upgraded yet?

Bit stiff if he doesn't get a call up you would think

McLean_4_Captain
1 May 2008, 17:13
Herald Sun list Paul Johnson as a test. If he's right to go immediate inclusion. Send Jamar to the glue factory and all is right with the world.:p

I bet you that glue made from Jamar would be that really frustrating s__ that they use to give you in primary school which didnt really stick anything down.

CLAG!!

Capt_Concussion
1 May 2008, 20:46
B: James Frawley, Nathan Carroll, Matthew Whelan
HB: Clint Bartram, Jared Rivers, Colin Sylvia
C: Aaron Davey, Brock McLean, Paul Wheatley
HF: Cale Morton, Russell Robertson, Nathan Jones
F: Brad Green, Brad Miller, Austin Wonaeamirri
Foll: Jeff White, James McDonald, Cameron Bruce
Int (from): Matthew Bate, Daniel Bell, Simon Buckley, Colin Garland, Mark Jamar, Brent Moloney, Matthew Warnock

In: Whelan, Bate, Garland, Buckley
Out: Lynden Dunn (omitted)

Nathan Jones named on the forward flank and Bruce back in the midfield. Green on the full forward line. Any other points of interest?

melbournemartin
2 May 2008, 02:35
The bench should be out of Bate, Bell, Buckley, Jamar and Moloney.

Sherman Tank
2 May 2008, 02:40
The bench should be out of Bate, Bell, Buckley, Jamar and Moloney.

Nup don't want Bell or Buckley in my final 22 & if there was someone to back up White, Jamar could go as well.

Sherman Tank
2 May 2008, 02:53
And if warnock is playing so well, with rivers at CHB and frawley or warnock at FB, maybe carroll should be given a run in the 2's??

Maybe Carroll should head down to Beach Rd for a bit. Carroll hasn't been that bad IMO, but we know what he is capable of by now. In fact I reckon the defence has been pretty good all things considered.

We need to know about Warnock as a key defender now! Chip could be anything yet & don't want to see him Dawsoned either, let the kid play.

saj_21
2 May 2008, 09:49
HB: Clint Bartram, Jared Rivers, Colin Sylvia
C: Aaron Davey, Brock McLean, Paul Wheatley
HF: Cale Morton, Russell Robertson, Nathan Jones
F: Brad Green, Brad Miller, Austin Wonaeamirri
Foll: Jeff White, James McDonald, Cameron Bruce
Int: Matthew Bate, Daniel Bell, Mark Jamar, Brent Moloney,

Great to see matty bate back in the team, he plays well at the G.

McLean_4_Captain
2 May 2008, 12:15
HB: Clint Bartram, Jared Rivers, Colin Sylvia
C: Aaron Davey, Brock McLean, Paul Wheatley
HF: Cale Morton, Russell Robertson, Nathan Jones
F: Brad Green, Brad Miller, Austin Wonaeamirri
Foll: Jeff White, James McDonald, Cameron Bruce
Int: Matthew Bate, Daniel Bell, Mark Jamar, Brent Moloney,

Great to see matty bate back in the team, he plays well at the G.

That side looks about right, our full back line is pretty much non-existent:thumbsu: