View Full Version : Spaghetti Carbornara vs Lasagne
Well we've done so many comparisons lately, I thought I would throw this one up for discussion.
DarwinRoo
5 May 2008, 21:00
Lasagne.
Spaghetti Cabonara has been struggling and he isnt the future of my stomach intake and his spot on the menu should be giving to a fresh new dish.
Oh come on guys thats champagne comedy right there.
theduckfan
5 May 2008, 21:02
:thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu:Lasagna.
gokangas
5 May 2008, 21:06
This is very subjective.
It depends who makes the respective dishes. You see many restaurants make carbonara and leave out the egg - thats one of the main ingredients yet they leave it out. What is wrong with them? No egg, no carbonara. Like the number of people that make a parma and don't put the slice of ham on top. It ain't a parma - its a chicken schnitzel with cheese and tomato. No ham - its NOT a parma.
I would rather have a quality lasagne but it has to be serious Italian - you should be able to hold the lasagne on your hand and not slide off - otherwise it is just a solid block of bolognaise.
BoomerRoo
5 May 2008, 21:09
Your a persistent bugger Bigeasy :)
Spaghetti Carbornara for me :thumbsu:
Neither.
I was lucky enough once to have some home made Cannelloni through a fellow band member at the time and it was out of this world. None of this ricotta garbage it was veal and ever since I don't like to comment on Italian cuisine. I make a pretty decent Lasagne, but nothing like that.
SweetLeftFoot
5 May 2008, 21:12
Lasagne by so far.
Due to the highly controversial nature of this topic, I have been asked to put this to a poll. I am setting this up in the next few minutes so please cast your votes so that we can finally have an end to this highly volatile subject.
This is very subjective.
It depends who makes the respective dishes. You see many restaurants make carbonara and leave out the egg - thats one of the main ingredients yet they leave it out. What is wrong with them? No egg, no carbonara. Like the number of people that make a parma and don't put the slice of ham on top. It ain't a parma - its a chicken schnitzel with cheese and tomato. No ham - its NOT a parma.
I would rather have a quality lasagne but it has to be serious Italian - you should be able to hold the lasagne on your hand and not slide off - otherwise it is just a solid block of bolognaise.
Diet not going so great?
This is very subjective.
It depends who makes the respective dishes. You see many restaurants make carbonara and leave out the egg - thats one of the main ingredients yet they leave it out. What is wrong with them? No egg, no carbonara. Like the number of people that make a parma and don't put the slice of ham on top. It ain't a parma - its a chicken schnitzel with cheese and tomato. No ham - its NOT a parma.
I would rather have a quality lasagne but it has to be serious Italian - you should be able to hold the lasagne on your hand and not slide off - otherwise it is just a solid block of bolognaise.
What are you GK, Edward Scissor hands?:eek:
Can't go past an authentic Italian lasagny for a man's chompin,.. for the ladies, carbonara.
This is very subjective.
It depends who makes the respective dishes. You see many restaurants make carbonara and leave out the egg - thats one of the main ingredients yet they leave it out. What is wrong with them? No egg, no carbonara. Like the number of people that make a parma and don't put the slice of ham on top. It ain't a parma - its a chicken schnitzel with cheese and tomato. No ham - its NOT a parma.
I would rather have a quality lasagne but it has to be serious Italian - you should be able to hold the lasagne on your hand and not slide off - otherwise it is just a solid block of bolognaise.
I'm not sure where to start. :eek:
But a great description from the ever reliable.
This is very subjective.
It depends who makes the respective dishes. You see many restaurants make carbonara and leave out the egg - thats one of the main ingredients yet they leave it out. What is wrong with them? No egg, no carbonara. Like the number of people that make a parma and don't put the slice of ham on top. It ain't a parma - its a chicken schnitzel with cheese and tomato. No ham - its NOT a parma.
I would rather have a quality lasagne but it has to be serious Italian - you should be able to hold the lasagne on your hand and not slide off - otherwise it is just a solid block of bolognaise.
What a p!sser.
gokangas
5 May 2008, 21:49
Diet not going so great?
I nearly sprayed my monitor with my Coke Zero!:D
Diet is going sensational but a man can dream. Weighed in tonight and down 5.5 kilos in two weeks.
gokangas
5 May 2008, 21:50
What a p!sser.
Learn lad!
Roos4eva
5 May 2008, 21:52
I used to be a big Lasagne man, but these days I'd go with the Carbornara.
FWIW,
Spaghetti Bolegnese>>>>Carbornara>Lasagne.
I used to be a big Lasagne man, but these days I'd go with the Carbornara.
FWIW,
Spaghetti Bolegnese>>>>Carbornara>Lasagne.
Stopping adding curve balls to this already confusing debate,
Roos4eva
5 May 2008, 21:56
Stopping adding curve balls to this already confusing debate,
Would Spaghetti Meat Balls make it less confusing?
Would Spaghetti Meat Balls make it less confusing?
Would you like me to add it to the poll?
Diet is going sensational but a man can dream. Weighed in tonight and down 5.5 kilos in two weeks.
Thats great stuff man.
Roos4eva
5 May 2008, 22:03
Would you like me to add it to the poll?
Nah, bolegnese is far better, but I've already voted for Carbornara, so I'm kind of 'meh'.
numchuks
5 May 2008, 22:05
Lasagna > Ben Carbonaro >>>>>> Spaghetti Carbornara
Roos4eva
5 May 2008, 22:06
Lasagna > Ben Carbonaro >>>>>> Spaghetti Carbornara
Actually, yeah, can we add Ben Carbonaro to the poll?
Lasagna > Ben Carbonaro >>>>>> Spaghetti Carbornara
I was waiting for that to pop up. Benny actually has a liking for the Urban Burger.
fairdinkum
5 May 2008, 22:09
As odd as it sounds, this is probably the least ridiculous thread I have read on this board since about 9.30 Saturday night. Make of that what you will.
gokangas
5 May 2008, 22:09
While I am having a whinge about food I went to a restaurant last year and just felt like a pepper steak. Ordered one. beautiful piece of meet but the pepper sauce was mre like a gravy - no pepper tatse at all. When the waitress cleared my plate she asked how the meal was.
I told her the steak was fantastic but the pepper sauce didn't have any pepper. Her reply - "we don't put much pepper in it because people would complain it was hot". WTf? - don't put pepper in the pepper sauce incase it is hot? Why else would you order a pepper steak?
As odd as it sounds, this is probably the least ridiculous thread I have read on this board since about 9.30 Saturday night. Make of that what you will.
Fairdinkum?
I told her the steak was fantastic but the pepper sauce didn't have any pepper. Her reply - "we don't put much pepper in it because people would complain it was hot". WTf? - don't put pepper in the pepper sauce incase it is hot? Why else would you order a pepper steak?
I immediately thought of Fawlty Towers.
gokangas
5 May 2008, 22:14
I immediately thought of Fawlty Towers.
Absolutely - the thing is she was so serious. Just explained that and then said "If you want it peppery just tell us next time".
Bet they wouldn't have egg in the carbonara nor ham on the parma.
Absolutely - the thing is she was so serious. Just explained that and then said "If you want it peppery just tell us next time".
Bet they wouldn't have egg in the carbonara nor ham on the parma.
"Just tell us next time if you want pepper in the pepper sauce"
Hmmm, makes sense.
Roos4eva
5 May 2008, 22:23
GK's raising of a pepper steak has given me an inkling, except for one that actually has pepper in the pepper sauce.
I nearly sprayed my monitor with my Coke Zero!:D
Diet is going sensational but a man can dream. Weighed in tonight and down 5.5 kilos in two weeks.
gokangas>David Calthorpe
Lasagne.
With the amount of garlic my wife puts in it your breath can just about strip paint.
salamander
5 May 2008, 22:50
Carbonara > Lasagna
For the record it's Carbonara not Carbornara.
And Lasagna not Lasagne.
sherrinorburley
5 May 2008, 22:57
Tough one......dead heat.
Will sit on the fence with my Gnocchi, still amazed at how many way's you can use a potato.
still amazed at how many way's you can use a potato.
Would it be a fair assessment to say this one is better left to the imagination?
What colour is Lasagne's clipboard?
Twinkletoes
5 May 2008, 23:43
:thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu:Lasagna.
Sums it up for me!
When I turned 10 my mum asked me what I'd like her to make for my birthday dinner....."Lasagne!", came my reply, without hesitation.
Ok, so my 10 year old mates greeted the dish's arrival with "what's this crap Mrs Toes?", but that was more reflective of their diets being limited to the basic tastes of the Antipodes hither to then.
Lasagne wins, hands down. Carbonara's risky. It's sometimes great, often too filling, but sometimes an out and out letdown.
Back the sure bet......back the Lasagne!
T'toes
gokangas
5 May 2008, 23:46
Lasagne.
With the amount of garlic my wife puts in it your breath can just about strip paint.
I'm married to an Italian - garlic is an aftershave!
Sums it up for me!
When I turned 10 my mum asked me what I'd like her to make for my birthday dinner....."Lasagne!", came my reply, without hesitation.
Ok, so my 10 year old mates greeted the dish's arrival with "what's this crap Mrs Toes?", but that was more reflective of their diets being limited to the basic tastes of the Antipodes hither to then.
Lasagne wins, hands down. Carbonara's risky. It's sometimes great, often too filling, but sometimes an out and out letdown.
Back the sure bet......back the Lasagne!
T'toes
Yeah Lasagne is generally the sure bet, but after my most recent Lygon St dining experience (approx 3 hours ago) I have come to the conclusion that the better the Italian restaurant, the worse the bolognaise sauce. It's like, they don't try, any fool can make a half decent bol so it's an insult to the chef.
So my answer... in a good restaurant, go the carbonara. In a dodgy dive, stick with lasagne.
Yeah Lasagne is generally the sure bet, but after my most recent Lygon St dining experience (approx 3 hours ago) I have come to the conclusion that the better the Italian restaurant, the worse the bolognaise sauce. It's like, they don't try, any fool can make a half decent bol so it's an insult to the chef.
So my answer... in a good restaurant, go the carbonara. In a dodgy dive, stick with lasagne.
That's the most absurd logic i've ever heard so it must be true. Can't wait to go to macca's and order a lasagne, it should be a ripper.
That's the most absurd logic i've ever heard so it must be true. Can't wait to go to macca's and order a lasagne, it should be a ripper.
Like I say, life time of experience eating pasta... in a good restaurant you can afford to be ambitious.
Yeah Lasagne is generally the sure bet, but after my most recent Lygon St dining experience (approx 3 hours ago) I have come to the conclusion that the better the Italian restaurant, the worse the bolognaise sauce. It's like, they don't try, any fool can make a half decent bol so it's an insult to the chef.
Well picked out Pharro.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb27/BFWoodson/ProntoperBollire.jpg
The real secret to the meal is the authentic SALSA flavour that comes from the homemade stuff money just can't buy. The douche bags at the restuarants are shafting the public of quality.
The Other Dean
6 May 2008, 00:25
*sigh*
All those bottles once had beer in them.
To answer the question posed by this fascinating thread which, by the way, I rate 7 squillion stars.....
Carbonara.
But only if they use fresh carbon.
*sigh*
All those bottles once had beer in them.
To answer the question posed by this fascinating thread which, by the way, I rate 7 squillion stars.....
Carbonara.
But only if they use fresh carbon.
Ah yes, inanimate carbon...
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m319/pharro/rod.jpg
The Other Dean
6 May 2008, 00:40
Ah yes, inanimate carbon...
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m319/pharro/rod.jpg
Wow. Not only has he played 175 games, but he even made the cover of Time once, too. Impressive.
wells is god
6 May 2008, 00:49
See I'd just go for a Carbornara with Penne. Much better than the old over-used spaghetti.
Bolognaise>Carbornara>Pollo>Chicken Alfredo>Lasagne
:)
sherrinorburley
6 May 2008, 00:59
Would it be a fair assessment to say this one is better left to the imagination?
Opens up a whole new world really.
Was at the back of my little mind when attempting not to get sidetracked off thread-like but yeah, potato breath...crap talk....smuggling technique's etc......
Mr Reliable
6 May 2008, 12:11
Very limited choices - OK, carbonara, but as TT said, often too rich and filling. I'd still prefer something with a kick, like a matriciana or a calabrese.
And I agree with wells is god- penne anyday:thumbsu:.
Lasagne for me - I'm on a diet as well (lost 8kgs SO FAR) but it also depends on who and where it's cooked. I used to go to a place in Toorak Rd almost opposite Sth Yarra Station (a couple of shops before the pub when it was called Her Majestys then the Saloon Bar) that had your basic Italian tucker and their Lasagne was the best I'd tasted - went down well with their generous serves of crusty bread/butter and red vino.
My pasta intake these days must be minus cream - grrrrrrr.:mad:
Twinkletoes
6 May 2008, 12:57
Very limited choices - OK, carbonara, but as TT said, often too rich and filling. I'd still prefer something with a kick, like a matriciana or a calabrese.
And I agree with wells is god- penne anyday:thumbsu:.
Penne, when it comes to the actual pasta eating experience, is absolutely THE way to go. Each little cylindrical bite sized piece of penne, filled with whatever flavour is in the overall meal (I'm a hot and spicy Matriciana man too Mr R), allows one to sit back and enjoy each bite to it's fullest.
A very underrated culinary experience I've always thought.
Still, for the purpose of this poll, it's Lasagna over Carbonara for me. Once you get the dairy products into the meal there's always a chance of something being a little "off". It's dicing with death!
T'toes
Mr Reliable
6 May 2008, 14:22
Penne, when it comes to the actual pasta eating experience, is absolutely THE way to go. Each little cylindrical bite sized piece of penne, filled with whatever flavour is in the overall meal (I'm a hot and spicy Matriciana man too Mr R), allows one to sit back and enjoy each bite to it's fullest.
A very underrated culinary experience I've always thought.
T'toes
Stop! You make it sound so mouth-wateringly good.:D
They do a nice Penne at Arkibar in Coventry St South Melbourne, near Ch 7. I bumped into Foghorn Demetriou in there one day. He sat outside and I couldn't hear a word he said.
Twinkletoes
6 May 2008, 14:25
Stop! You make it sound so mouth-wateringly good.:D
They do a nice Penne at Arkibar in Coventry St South Melbourne, near Ch 7. I bumped into Foghorn Demetriou in there one day. He sat outside and I couldn't hear a word he said.
It'd be a bit hard for the guy sitting next to him to hear a word he said, seeing that he would've been shovelling pasta into his pasta disposal unit, otherwise known as a mouth, at three forks worth to the second!
T'toes
So my answer... in a good restaurant, go the carbonara. In a dodgy dive, stick with lasagne.
I agree totally.
I like a carbonara that's not swimming in oil from the bacon, which is something I learnt after sampling the dish prepared by our old friend and former BF poster, Hilton. I don't cook myself, its the man of the house's job. But I'm led to believe there is quite a lot of skill involved in extracting the fat. Since losing contact with the poster formerly known as Hilton I've been on a never ending quest to find a carbonara quite as good.
The Pasta Junction in Camberwell came very close with their linguine dish. :thumbsu:
Mark's Place in Wantirna do a wicked Lasagne.
Lasagne for me - I'm on a diet as well (lost 8kgs SO FAR) but it also depends on who and where it's cooked. I used to go to a place in Toorak Rd almost opposite Sth Yarra Station (a couple of shops before the pub when it was called Her Majestys then the Saloon Bar) that had your basic Italian tucker and their Lasagne was the best I'd tasted - went down well with their generous serves of crusty bread/butter and red vino.
My pasta intake these days must be minus cream - grrrrrrr.:mad:
Hmmmm... I think you mean Pinnocchios. When I worked on Chapel St, I only had to open the door and the main guy would call out my order to the chef - Lasagne no cheese to go.
Mark's Place in Wantirna do a wicked Lasagne.
Well there's at least 8 people on here who may hold you to that recommendation tomorrow night.
Mr Reliable
6 May 2008, 21:25
Well there's at least 8 people on here who may hold you to that recommendation tomorrow night.
Duly noted. If I get the chance I'll order the Lasagne and report back!
[that is, of course, unless there's a nice Penne on the menu]
Shinboners
9 May 2008, 23:20
Still, for the purpose of this poll, it's Lasagna over Carbonara for me. Once you get the dairy products into the meal there's always a chance of something being a little "off". It's dicing with death!
A cabonara should not have any cream in it.
I've been on a never ending quest to find a carbonara quite as good.
Tiamo on Lygon Street does a superb cabonara.
Twinkletoes
9 May 2008, 23:46
No dairy products (cream, as you mentioned shinners)?
I beg to differ mate:
http://img.cooks.com/i/kabel.gif
Good luck to you though if you leave all dairy out of it. Maybe that's what CAN be a little "off" in my case.
T'toes
Shinboners
10 May 2008, 14:46
No dairy products (cream, as you mentioned shinners)?
I beg to differ mate:
http://img.cooks.com/i/kabel.gif
Good luck to you though if you leave all dairy out of it. Maybe that's what CAN be a little "off" in my case.
T'toes
Marcella Hazan* > Cooks.com
Trust me on this one. Find Hazan's recipe (Neil Perry also has it in "The Food I Love"), use it, and you'll never want to eat a cabonara made with cream again.
*The Cabonara recipe is on pages 202 to 203, "Essentials Of Italian Cooking" (hardback edition)