View Full Version : Wce In 2yrs Compared To 2006
Eagle Ant
15 May 2008, 20:36
2006 Premiership Team And age of players.
Backs: Beau Waters 20, Darren Glass 25, Daniel Chick 30
Half-backs: Adam Selwood 22, Adam Hunter 25, Brett Jones 24
Centres: Chad Fletcher 27, Chris Judd 23 (c), Michael Braun 28
Half-forwards: Rowan Jones 29, Ashley Hansen 23, Ben Cousins 28
Forwards: Andrew Embley 25, Quinten Lynch 23, David Wirrpanda 27
Ruck: Dean Cox 25, Tyson Stenglein 26, Daniel Kerr 23
Interchange: Mark Seaby 22, Sam Butler 20, Steven Armstrong 22, Drew Banfield 32
Coach: John Worsfold
The West Coast Eagles played Sydney at the MCG on September 30, 2006, winning 12.13 (85) to 12.12 (84).
Banfield + Chick over 30 Both retired.
Cousins, RoJo and Braun over 28 only Braun still playing.
Judd only player under 28 not playing for us any more.
That was less then 2yrs ago
Current Squad and Age if all fit in 2 yrs
Not actual team Just for Display
FB Waters 24, Gass 29, A. Selwood 26
HB Bones 28, Hunter 29, Brown 22
C Houlihan 21, Priddis 25, Hurn 23
HF Ebert 20, Kennedy 23, Lynch 27
FF Mckinley 23, Cones 26, Lecras 24
RR Cox 29, Kerr 27, Masten 21
INT. Seaby 26, Butler 24, Spangher 23, Davis 21
OTHERS: S.Selwood 20, McGinnity 21, Wilkes 24, Arrowsmith 21, Sullivan 21 , Staker 26, Hansen 27, Thomson 22, Notte 20, Schofield 21, Wilson 22 , Embley 29, Nicoski 27, J.Mac 22, Mckenzie 22, Rosa 24, Graham 27, Armstrong 26.
Retired: Braun 32, Flecther 31, Stenglein 30, Wirrapanda 31.
So 2 yrs is a long time in footy :):D
Black Thunder
15 May 2008, 20:52
it certainly a handy looking side, and hopefully we get some fire back into Stenglein and Embley cause they'll add a lot to any team...
average age of permiership 22 is just under 25.
average age of your projected 2010 line up is just over 24.5 (be a bit lower because you didn't have mckinley's age in there)
for the time being its just a matter of getting some fire in the belly of our senior fellas - Braun, Embley, Stenglein, getting our big names back fully fit - Cox, Glass, Priddis, Kerr, and LeCras and getting some more game time into the youngsters - Kenneddy, Ebert, Butler, Rosa, S Selwood and so on...
things could be a lot worse.
ill be far more worried if we did what we did after 2000 and recruit a bunch of old washed fellas Fremantle style (Merenda, Prior, Taylor, Sierakowski and so on...), we might have won a flag only 6 years later but we got a fair bit lucky being able to recruit Judd, along with the huge development beyond what we were expecting of the likes of Embley, Hunter, Glass and Cox...
Cerpin Taxt
15 May 2008, 21:24
Hopefully Stinger and Wirra will still be going. Stinger would need to lift his game, but Wirra is going really well at the moment!
Eagle Ant
15 May 2008, 21:24
No differance to average with Mckinley still 24.59
Ta for that have fixed it now.
Marlin01
16 May 2008, 17:51
Do you guys reckon Cox will be able to perform his current role (which is pretty much all over the ground) at the age of 29? I personally think we need to expose Seaby to more time in the ruck, or we will be well down in this area in 2 years time.
Seaby will never have Cox's versatility, run or skill.
All Premiership teams seem to need one or two genuine superstars - probably only Power didn't recently and Sydney ? - so who will be ours in 2010-2011? Cox? Kerr? They need to be players who can win a game in inspired bursts.
Scotland
16 May 2008, 18:54
2006 Premiership Team And age of players.
Backs: Beau Waters 20, Darren Glass 25, Daniel Chick 30
Half-backs: Adam Selwood 22, Adam Hunter 25, Brett Jones 24
Centres: Chad Fletcher 27, Chris Judd 23 (c), Michael Braun 28
Half-forwards: Rowan Jones 29, Ashley Hansen 23, Ben Cousins 28
Forwards: Andrew Embley 25, Quinten Lynch 23, David Wirrpanda 27
Ruck: Dean Cox 25, Tyson Stenglein 26, Daniel Kerr 23
Interchange: Mark Seaby 22, Sam Butler 20, Steven Armstrong 22, Drew Banfield 32
Current Squad and Age if all fit in 2 yrs
Not actual team Just for Display
FB Waters 24, Glass 29, A. Selwood 26
HB Bones 28, Hunter 29, Brown 22
C Houlihan 21, Priddis 25, Hurn 23
HF Ebert 20, Kennedy 23, Lynch 27
FF Mckinley 23, Cones 26, Lecras 24
RR Cox 29, Kerr 27, Masten 21
INT. Seaby 26, Butler 24, Spangher 23, Davis 21
What exactly is the point of this thread?
The average ages of each team could be identical and it still means ____ all.
The premiership side contains Chris Judd & Ben Cousins. It also contains an AA back pocket (Wirrpanda), an AA midfielder (Fletcher) and 4 consistent and dependable hard workers in Chick, Braun, Rowan Jones and Banfield, who were proven at AFL level.
The 'new' side contains Houlihan and Davis. Neither have shown anything at AFL level, ever. It also includes Chad Jones, who struggles to get a game in a very poor side now, and Sam Butler, who hasn't played for over 18 months now. Brown, Ebert, Kennedy, Masten, Spangher & Mckinley have shown 2/3 of ____ all between them at AFL level. Sure, some or all might end up superstars, but right now they are kids who have shown a bit.
Regardless of the convenient average age stat, the experience and talent distribution and mix of the two sides are completely different. If we aren't as good in 2 years time than what we were in September 2006 (and we won't be), then what is the relevance of the average age being the same?
It seem to me that the Eagles will only need better with so many talent young players. The only problem I see is that isnt alot of cream that are game breakers eg Judd, Cousins, J Brown, G Ablett.
Also, the end of Season WCE may have trade to upgrade their picks, to get some cream into their team.
It seem to me that the Eagles will only need better with so many talent young players. The only problem I see is that isnt alot of cream that are game breakers eg Judd, Cousins, J Brown, G Ablett.
Also, the end of Season WCE may have trade to upgrade their picks, to get some cream into their team.
Yep, I think you have a very fair assessment there. Look pretty blue collar at the moment, but maybe one of the kids will develop into a game breaker? Doesn't look likely at moment, but you never know.
Pridinator
17 May 2008, 00:58
http://people.mozilla.com/%7Eschrep/ApplesAndOranges.jpg
2006 is the orange and Judd and COusins meant we were always goign to get a Cup. Areal one not a cheap replica like the ones the Dockers aim for.:D
Eagle Ant
17 May 2008, 04:22
What exactly is the point of this thread?
The average ages of each team could be identical and it still means ____ all.
The premiership side contains Chris Judd & Ben Cousins. It also contains an AA back pocket (Wirrpanda), an AA midfielder (Fletcher) and 4 consistent and dependable hard workers in Chick, Braun, Rowan Jones and Banfield, who were proven at AFL level.
The 'new' side contains Houlihan and Davis. Neither have shown anything at AFL level, ever. It also includes Chad Jones, who struggles to get a game in a very poor side now, and Sam Butler, who hasn't played for over 18 months now. Brown, Ebert, Kennedy, Masten, Spangher & Mckinley have shown 2/3 of ____ all between them at AFL level. Sure, some or all might end up superstars, but right now they are kids who have shown a bit.
Regardless of the convenient average age stat, the experience and talent distribution and mix of the two sides are completely different. If we aren't as good in 2 years time than what we were in September 2006 (and we won't be), then what is the relevance of the average age being the same?
The Age of the sides was only part of the thred the other was to show that in 2006 when we were dominant we had a good mixture of youth and experiance and the experiance is what these young blokes are getting by playing as much Footy as possible. Houlihan and Davis are going to be either Very good or stars and give them 2 yrs and I believe they will have cemented there spots in the team IMO. And the talent WCE have comming through is the other thing that I was pointing out, At least 8 of the 11 will make it into AFL ranks within 2yrs. IMO
Total_Juddshanks
17 May 2008, 05:04
It seem to me that the Eagles will only need better with so many talent young players. The only problem I see is that isnt alot of cream that are game breakers eg Judd, Cousins, J Brown, G Ablett.
Also, the end of Season WCE may have trade to upgrade their picks, to get some cream into their team.
True that.
Genuine premiership contender sides usually have a solid defence and then at least 3 or 4 absolute elite game breakers through the midfield and up forward, guys who are regularly able to dominate clearances, or cut loose and kicking multiple goals in a quarter or whatever- it then becomes a bit of a 'whack a mole' type situation for the opposition, because they can shut down some of the players all of the time, or all of the players some of the time, but in 4 quarters of footy, at least 1 or 2 of the genuine gamebreakers will fire.
You look around the league at the moment, and its pretty easy to delineate between the contenders, the middle of the road sides, and the quite ordinary ones.
Geelong - Ablett, Bartel, Mooney, Johnson, arguably Selwood
Hawthorn - Franklin (x 2!), Hodge, Mitchell, Williams
Bulldogs - Johnson, Murphy, Cooney, Akka
Brisbane - Black, Brown, arguably Charman
Carlton - Judd, Fevola
Fremantle - Pavlich .. arguably Bell still.
West Coast - Cox, Kerr
Melbourne - Robertson
Our list overall is in good shape, but for us to go back into contender mode, a couple of the kids would need to develop into genuine game breaking superstars