A very interesting stat for the anoraks among us...

[dyertribe]

I have floated this agenda a few times in the various Origin threads and other discussions across these boards as to the widespread perception as to how Tredders is travelling in relation to the reality, but after seeing a certain other key forward continually and repeatedly labelled the #1 player in the game in the media this and every other week, I have had enough. It is officially bizarre, the degree of brainwashing that is going on.

Remember, as of May 2008 aka right now: our man is 'finished'. He's 'a shadow of his former self'. He's 'struggling for form'. 'This could be his last year'.

The other man is 'the best since Carey'. 'Can write his own cheque'. 'The number one player in the comp'. 'The most feared player in the league'.

http://i32.tinypic.com/rvar5z.jpg

How can the perception of both men be so wildly different compared to the reality?

It'd madness. Officially.

[Elite Crow]

Why are you getting so worked up about it?

And if you want to look for answers perhaps look at your own clubs opinion of where Tredrea is at with the 1 yr contract they offered him.

As for Brown it has been widely reported he has struggled to reach his best this year but he showed in the debacle last weekend his best is maybe not too far away. And dont forget he won the Coleman medal.

Throw in the fact Tredrea didnt even make the squad of which his coach had a fair bit to do with.

[dyertribe]

Why are you getting so worked up about it?

Sorry. I forgot this was BigFooty. Serious analysis isn't allowed. Just myths, preconceived notions and the usual clueless bullshit. I should've just posted the picture of Tredders' phone goal celebration against the Kangaroos 1000 times and been done with it.

And if you want to look for answers perhaps look at your own clubs opinion of where Tredrea is at with the 1 yr contract they offered him.

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As for Brown it has been widely reported he has struggled to reach his best this year but he showed in the debacle last weekend his best is maybe not too far away. And dont forget he won the Coleman medal.

Still being widely tagged as the #1 player in the comp. Clearly isn't - and only really turned it on in the second half of last year. Doesn't do it often enough, never has, never will, to deserve the tag.

As an example as to myth and reality, Buddy is actually doing what people think/assume Brown does.

Throw in the fact Tredrea didnt even make the squad of which his coach had a fair bit to do with.

Do you even know what you're arguing for? Against? About?

The fact Brown was named captain/coach/chairman of selectors/team bus driver/custodian of the genie in the lamp for Victoria and Tredders wasn't selected by his own coach for the Dream Team - despite a near identical impact for their clubs in Season 2008 - reinforces the general/wider point I'm making.

[Elite Crow]

Sorry. I forgot this was BigFooty. Serious analysis isn't allowed. Just myths, preconceived notions and the usual clueless bullshit. I should've just posted the picture of Tredders' phone goal celebration against the Kangaroos 1000 times and been done with it.



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Still being widely tagged as the #1 player in the comp. Clearly isn't - and only really turned it on in the second half of last year. Doesn't do it often enough, never has, never will, to deserve the tag.

As an example as to myth and reality, Buddy is actually doing what people think/assume Brown does.



Do you even know what you're arguing for? Against? About?

The fact Brown was named captain/coach/chairman of selectors/team bus driver/custodian of the genie in the lamp for Victoria and Tredders wasn't selected by his own coach for the Dream Team - despite a near identical impact for their clubs in Season 2008 - reinforces the general/wider point I'm making.

Jonathan Brown was named Captain before the season based on last years form when as you put it, in one half of the season he was good enough to win the Coleman.

If Tredrea's form this year warranted him to be picked he would have been.

As I said you seem to extremely worked up over this issue when really there is no need to be. Tredrea is towards the end of his career whereas Brown has dominating footy left in him. Why are you trying to compare the two? No one else is.

[dyertribe]

Jonathan Brown was named Captain before the season based on last years form when as you put it, in one half of the season he was good enough to win the Coleman.

If Tredrea's form this year warranted him to be picked he would have been.

Neither here nor there. You raised the Tribute Game as some sort of decisive pointer - in 2008 both men's form has been identical, which is my point.

As I said you seem to extremely worked up over this issue when really there is no need to be.

'Extremely worked up'? How do you figure, exactly? I'm raising a discussion, we're both partaking in it.

Was it the way I added my own tabulated goal assist stats on the end of the printscreen or?

Tredrea is towards the end of his career whereas Brown has dominating footy left in him.

Brown is less than three years younger than Tredders and has already racked up a catalogue of serious injuries. Given his bash'n'crash style he doesn't have as much blue ribbon footy in him as you'd think.

Why are you trying to compare the two? No one else is.

Because their stats for 2008 are nearly identical - did the JPEG not load for you? - but their current reputations couldn't be more polarised. I would've though this a simple concept to grasp.

[dreamkillers]

Did the ABC write tonight's script as it certainly seems that way.........bring on the Hawks and lets just beat them.......:thumbsu:

[Power King]

People love brown's character

people hate tredrea regardless of anything he does, because we are port adelaide

at the end of the day, the football experts themselves know that tredeers is the best since carey

brown has 07

tredrea has 01-05

enough said

[Macca19]

Tredreas stats are much better than people give him credit for.

Browns stats are much worse than people give him credit for.

Tredrea has been the better player through their careers.

Whether other people believe that or are blinded by the Brown bandwagon...who knows.

[hereselmo1]

To be honest i find it hard to split tredrea and brown, though i think it would be fair to say that throughout his career brown has lad a lot more support in his forward line (lynch/bradshaw) and so has been less likely to be double teamed.

But tredrea has definitely been under rated, i would say that brown has been rated about right, he is a match winning gun who plays teh hardest position on the ground.

[gopower]

I think after last year Tredders could kick 60 goals and still be labelled as too old and near the end of his career.