Changes For Dreamtime Game

[Realistic Tiger]

Out: Hyde Riewoldt Morton
In: Collins Pattison JON

[JSFish]

Oakleigh Nicholls got injured today, dunno how badly though. Agreed Morton could come out, you would've thought for Pets, but doesn't sound like he did a lot today.

[tiggytrain]

A poor game from both Riewoldt and Morton in the wet isn't a good reason to drop them

[Realistic Tiger]

Oakleigh Nicholls got injured today, dunno how badly though. Agreed Morton could come out, you would've thought for Pets, but doesn't sound like he did a lot today.
Pretty sure JON was running around at the end of the game today.

[Realistic Tiger]

A poor game from both Riewoldt and Morton in the wet isn't a good reason to drop them
Not saying that they should be dropped solely because of form, more just to give them a bit more of a run and gain some lost confidence.

[lookkg386]

Out: Hyde Riewoldt Morton
In: Collins Pattison JON

Geez it was f**king cold wet day today, shocking for forwards, I thought Jack and Morton kept running and presenting all day so hard up to drop them after today against the no.1 defence in the land. Hyde will go, dissapointing today as a tagger, not sure where he fits in.

[JSFish]

Pretty sure JON was running around at the end of the game today.
I know that he came off hurt, then went back on, but apparantly it was still troubling him. Elbow or wrist they thought.

[Realistic Tiger]

Geez it was f**king cold wet day today, shocking for forwards, I thought Jack and Morton kept running and presenting all day so hard up to drop them after today against the no.1 defence in the land. Hyde will go, dissapointing today as a tagger, not sure where he fits in.
Read the post above yours for the reasons why. TW has to make changes after 4 games without a win. While I agree that Morton and Riewoldt would be hard done by in missing out, there are not many others who would be more deserving of being omitted.

[Realistic Tiger]

I know that he came off hurt, then went back on, but apparantly it was still troublin him. Elbow or wrist they thought.
Would indicate that it is not that serious an injury then. Think he deserves a game and being the Indiginous game you would think he would get a run.

[tigertiger]

I still dont understand why Conners isnt getting a run, he worked hard all day today and was one of the best on ground. I really liked his work off the ball too. Im not sure who he would replace though maybe McMahon after todays effort.

[TIGER ROCKET]

Would indicate that it is not that serious an injury then. Think he deserves a game and being the Indiginous game you would think he would get a run.

if we pick someone just because of the type of game it is(ie the dreamteam game)then it is a joke.
should be picked on form and that alone.

[lookkg386]

Read the post above yours for the reasons why. TW has to make changes after 4 games without a win. While I agree that Morton and Riewoldt would be hard done by in missing out, there are not many others who would be more deserving of being omitted.


I guess the next question is who replaces them? Petts is the easy one but his form is solid without being super at Coburg, dropping these kids to build confidence doesn't work with me, don't understand. What we want is our young forwards playing senior games against the best along side blokes like Richo and Browny and hopefully learning from them.

[Coach_Required]

Out: Hyde Riewoldt Morton
In: Collins Pattison JON

And you call yourself Realistic Tiger :eek::thumbsd:

There should only be one change for next week and thats if the weather is fine

Out: Hyde

In: Pattison

[Sausage roll]

Out: Hyde Riewoldt Morton
In: Collins Pattison JON

Please don't talk about giving JON his token game for the year in the dreamtime game!

[C-Dog]

its not oakleigh-nicholls.

[HBK619]

IMO.

OUT: Hyde, (Maybe McGuane)

IN: Collins, (Maybe Rance)

Depending on if the coaching staff and Rance think he is ready I wouldn't mind seeing him get a go, we saw how good Cotch was, so let's bring in the other pick, more body than McGuane but can really hurt on the rebound and run.

Riewoldt and Morton get another go as our inside 50's were way down, and delivery was substandard plus it would've been damn hard to mark out there.

[Richmond FC]

What have people got against McGuane i think he is fine and tackling is great. Last 2 weeks Gehrig 1 goal and Hawkins 1 goal that is fine.

Out: Hyde, King
In: Collins, JON/Connors depends if JON is fit.

King needs wake up call on being accountable.

[Tigerland2007]

In Schulz, Pettifer Patto
Out" McGaune, Edwards, Hyde

[C-Dog]

What have people got against McGuane i think he is fine and tackling is great. Last 2 weeks Gehrig 1 goal and Hawkins 1 goal that is fine.

Out: Hyde, King
In: Collins, JON/Connors depends if JON is fit.

King needs wake up call on being accountable.

yeah well thats not his style.

[Accepted 04]

In: Schultz Rance Collins Pattison
Out: Polak McGuane McMahon Hyde

[HBK619]

What have people got against McGuane i think he is fine and tackling is great. Last 2 weeks Gehrig 1 goal and Hawkins 1 goal that is fine.
I've got nothing against McGuane, it's just he is very slight and today dropped a number of crucial chest marks in the backline, and I think we should give Rance a go against an Essendon team devoid of forwards and down on form.

[Richmond FC]

I've got nothing against McGuane, it's just he is very slight and today dropped a number of crucial chest marks in the backline, and I think we should give Rance a go against an Essendon team devoid of forwards and down on form.

Not sure if you went today early to see Coburg i caught it from the half way mark of 2nd qtr and watched all of last weeks game so have seen a bit of Rancey. Rance was very good this week but it must be understood he was on Djekurra who is a speedy aboriginal boy not Lonergan for example. So he isnt going to come in and play on the big bodies yet i dont think. The week before he was very poor and remember was wet and lots of players were dropping marks.

I forgot to put Pettifer in on my earlier post. I'd probably give Edwards a week or two back in the Burgers and bring back Petts.

[SolidTiger]

OUT: Edwards

IN: Pettifer

It is important to show the younger players that when they are in the senior side and they drop off even the slightest then they will be dropped back to the seconds and be replaced with another player who has been challangeing for their spot. Also for them to regain their spot on the senior side they must prove they want to get back there through their performance in the VFL.

[Crumden]

McGuane has been our best tall defender the last couple of weeks. Thursty's form has dropped off a little. Was beaten by Mooney today. But Thursty is quality and will get back on top. Moore really struggled in the conditions today. Went to ground too often and couldn't kick the wet pill. None of those three will go out because generlly this year they have been combining pretty well.

Patto will come back in unless its pissing down again, but there won't be too many other changes. Maybe Collins or Pettifer for Edwards, but Edwards has shown a few good signs before today as well. Morton and Reiwoldt have both been pretty good before today and won't be dropped. Morton had a quiet one and Reiwoldt couldn't hold on to the wet ball, but I thought he went a bit better as the game went on.

[HBK619]

Not sure if you went today early to see Coburg i caught it from the half way mark of 2nd qtr and watched all of last weeks game so have seen a bit of Rancey. Rance was very good this week but it must be understood he was on Djekurra who is a speedy aboriginal boy not Lonergan for example. So he isnt going to come in and play on the big bodies yet i dont think. The week before he was very poor and remember was wet and lots of players were dropping marks.

I forgot to put Pettifer in on my earlier post. I'd probably give Edwards a week or two back in the Burgers and bring back Petts.
That's my point though, against an Essendon side with Lucas out and no other KP Forward other than Lloyd we can afford to put a youngster in for his first go, he wont need to play on a big body.

As I said though if the coaching panel and Rance think he is ready then elevate him, if you look I said "Maybe" not definitley.

And a BIG NO to Pettifer, he is gone for good there is no way he should come in, I don't know how he did today but his time in the Burgers has not been fruitful, he has no defensive pressure, no attack on the ball and when he doesn't have the pill he doesn't try hard enough, would rather persevere with Edwards any day of the year.

[beaver fever]

Out: Edwards, Hyde, ???
In: Collins, Jackson, Pattison

[HBK619]

OUT: Edwards

IN: Pettifer

It is important to show the younger players that when they are in the senior side and they drop off even the slightest then they will be dropped back to the seconds and be replaced with another player who has been challangeing for their spot. Also for them to regain their spot on the senior side they must prove they want to get back there through their performance in the VFL.
You contradict your point there though, Pettifer has not had "Great" form at Coburg like he should, he doesn't show defensive pressure like we have been enforcing over the last few weeks, Pettifer is why we were so bad previous to the Fremantle game, he should not be brought in, Edwards has been servicable and for a 19 year old with 21 games under his belt he is doing fine, these guys wont get better playing at Coburg.

[RichosGuns]

McGuane OUT!? Are you kidding me? He has really been the only defender to hold his head high in the last two games. I have been super impressed with, esspecially after his bad start to the season. Comprehensivly beat Kozi 2 weeks ago and then did the same to Hawkins this week, before beeing moved on to Mooney who was killing Thurstfield. The fact that Mooney kicked only 1 goal today, doesn't justify how much he killed Thurstfield.

I thought Newman played a much better game after he probably got a rocket from Plough over his last couple of games. Bowden was also useful upfoward kicking two, setting one up (also gave two of to Tambo and Cotchin on silverplates which they both ____ed up)

Therefore:
Out:
Edwards: Really did nothing today and has been failry coasty in the senior team this year. Probably will get a gig though because he is indegenios.
McMohan: Whats the difference between his game today, and the first couple of rounds Bowden played? Bowden was more effective. McMohan's shitty disposal let them back into the game late in the second quater. I though this guy was meant to be a good kick?

IN:
Pattison (Cartlege): Obviously we will need a second ruck and Patto will be first in line. However, if Cogs is put on the LTI, I would like to see Cartlege get a crack because he is just a class above VFL
JON or Polo/Collins: If JON isn't injured I would like to see him get a game, as its dreamtime at the G if Edwards gets dropped, JON would be an obvious replacement. He would also offer the run off half back that McMohan would have. If not its time Polo gets another call up, or a Collins debut. They have both been good in the magoos recently

Under the pump:
Hyde may make way, as he got molested by Ablett today, however I think he earnt enough Browny points the last couple of weeks. He could also be used as a tag on Stanton who is another one of these outside running types. Jackson would probably get the call up as a tagging option if Hyde gets dropped

Riewoldt might be dropped for Schultz and Morton for Pettifer or Hughes. But I wouldn't be too harsh on these guys as today was no day for marking fowards. They both need a good game next week though

[Richmond FC]

Out: Edwards, Hyde, ???
In: Collins, Jackson, Pattison

Oh no he doesnt!!! he was nothing in todays game. If you look carefully he struggles to get his arms free in tackles and lacks awareness in close. Not up to it for mine.

I'd have plenty in ahead of Jacko i think he has had enough chances and never grasped it.

[waiting since 80]

Out: Hyde Riewoldt Morton
In: Collins Pattison JON


Normally would agree with you RT, though today was'nt a day for forwards and really Riewoldt and Morton should be given a chance next week, and perhaps the week after to redeem themselfs before they are dropped.Seen a lot passengers at Richmond get free rides/games before they were sent to the magoo's,Hyde played a shocker so drop him he's had a few chances,....P.S. i hope your not including JON cause it's DREAMTIME:confused:.
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[beaver fever]

Oh no he doesnt!!! he was nothing in todays game. If you look carefully he struggles to get his arms free in tackles and lacks awareness in close. Not up to it for mine.

I'd have plenty in ahead of Jacko i think he has had enough chances and never grasped it.
With Hyde out we need another defensive midfielder. Jackson or Polo could come in to mix things up a bit. Need to make some changes considering we haven't won since round 4.

Hmm perhaps we don't need another defensive midfielder considering we are playing Essendon. Perhaps Hyde out for JON and play McMahon on the wing.

[RichosGuns]

Normally would agree with you RT, though today was'nt a day for forwards and really Riewoldt and Morton should be given a chance next week, and perhaps the week after to redeem themselfs before they are dropped.Seen a lot passengers at Richmond get free rides/games before they were sent to the magoo's,Hyde played a shocker so drop him he's had a few chances,....P.S. i hope your not including JON cause it's DREAMTIME:confused:.
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The screen door slams... mary's dress sways...

His form at Coburg has been pretty good. Plus he plays in McMohan's position, who should be dropped this week

[SolidTiger]

His form at Coburg has been pretty good. Plus he plays in McMohan's position, who should be dropped this week

JON kicked the ball perfectlly to some players today and they dropped the ball. I guess I was suprised by the irony that JON was so accurate for a change and the players he kicked it to dropped absolute sitters.

[Richmond FC]

JON kicked the ball perfectlly to some players today and they dropped the ball. I guess I was suprised by the irony that JON was so accurate for a change and the players he kicked it to dropped absolute sitters.

Yeah was a bit like that but wasnt it amazing!! His kicking was bloody beautiful like finding a man on the chest in between 3 opponents if he was the only option. Holding it up and waiting for openings. Disappointing for him having to sit so much out with injury concern. Collins and JON deserve a gig.

[beaver fever]

JON kicked the ball perfectlly to some players today and they dropped the ball. I guess I was suprised by the irony that JON was so accurate for a change and the players he kicked it to dropped absolute sitters.
That's not ironic!

[Realistic Tiger]

Normally would agree with you RT, though today was'nt a day for forwards and really Riewoldt and Morton should be given a chance next week, and perhaps the week after to redeem themselfs before they are dropped.Seen a lot passengers at Richmond get free rides/games before they were sent to the magoo's,Hyde played a shocker so drop him he's had a few chances,....P.S. i hope your not including JON cause it's DREAMTIME:confused:.

Not including JON because it is Dreamtime, more that his form in recent weeks warrants a chance at senior level.

[tiger trooper]

Usually have a debutant at DREAMTIME at the G..

In: Collins (debutant) patto (maybe connors/john)
Out: Edwards , Mchman , maybe polak.

Even though Jordy picks up a heap of possesions, he makes costly turnovers which result in direct goals, and has no accountability for his direct man. Week in the 2's should sort him out IMO.

[sante]

Those predicting/wanting Hyde dropped clearly don't know much about Footy and how the Cats play footy.

Every time Ablett gets near it they block for him. Hyde or anyone for that matter couldn't have stopped Ablett. Plus, Hyde plays one poor game after 3 really good ones and he deserves to be dropped? I don't think so.

Also cannot believe how people are calling for McGuane to be dropped. :eek:

IN: Patto/Collins depending on conditions.
OUT: Morton

Wouldn't be surprised if Petts came in for Morton because of structures.

[beaver fever]

Those predicting/wanting Hyde dropped clearly don't know much about Footy and how the Cats play footy.

Every time Ablett gets near it they block for him. Hyde or anyone for that matter couldn't have stopped Ablett. Plus, Hyde plays one poor game after 3 really good ones and he deserves to be dropped? I don't think so.

Also cannot believe how people are calling for McGuane to be dropped. :eek:

IN: Patto/Collins depending on conditions.
OUT: Morton

Wouldn't be surprised if Petts came in for Morton because of structures.
Hyde has been useful as a stopper, but thats it. Give him the ball and it's back to circle work clangers. We have not won a game since round 4 and we need to change things up a bit so Hyde is certainly an option to be dropped.

[sante]

Hyde has been useful as a stopper, but thats it. Give him the ball and it's back to circle work clangers. We have not won a game since round 4 and we need to change things up a bit so Hyde is certainly an option to be dropped.

That is his job in the team.

We aren't losing because of him. We've played the 3 undefeated teams and St. Kilda who are our bogey team (Should have won it). I don't think we'll see many changes at all.

[beaver fever]

That is his job in the team.

We aren't losing because of him. We've played the 3 undefeated teams and St. Kilda who are our bogey team (Should have won it). I don't think we'll see many changes at all.
Yeah but surely we can do better than Hyde as a stopper. They still need to do something more. Look at Stenglein, K.Cornes, Ling, Sewell, Rawlings, Kirk etc.

I think Jackson offers much more to the side in addition to being an effective stopper.

[RichosGuns]

Yeah but surely we can do better than Hyde as a stopper. They still need to do something more. Look at Stenglein, K.Cornes, Ling, Sewell, Rawlings, Kirk etc.

I think Jackson offers much more to the side in addition to being an effective stopper.

I think its a bit of a mis-conception that Jackson actually can play as a tagger. I think Tucky should be our no.1 tagger from now on. He has towled up Sewel, Ball and Cross plus he was killing Corey until Corey moved onto the flank on McMohan

[tigertiger]

Graham must be getting close to a call up as well

[beaver fever]

I think its a bit of a mis-conception that Jackson actually can play as a tagger. I think Tucky should be our no.1 tagger from now on. He has towled up Sewel, Ball and Cross plus he was killing Corey until Corey moved onto the flank on McMohan
If Jackson can not play as a tagger then what use is he to the RFC?

[Coons17]

G'Day fellas.

Just wondering about your thoughts on a youngster i have been watching down at Coburg. Andrew Horne. Just wanted your thoughts on him and weather he is a chance to be picked up in the rookie draft this year, seems to be playing some good footy down there and just wanted your thoughts on him seeing as you guys would watch Coburg more than myself.

Good luck next week and i hope you kill Essendon.:thumbsu:

[Strawbs]

Those predicting/wanting Hyde dropped clearly don't know much about Footy and how the Cats play footy.

Every time Ablett gets near it they block for him. Hyde or anyone for that matter couldn't have stopped Ablett. Plus, Hyde plays one poor game after 3 really good ones and he deserves to be dropped? I don't think so.

Also cannot believe how people are calling for McGuane to be dropped. :eek:

IN: Patto/Collins depending on conditions.
OUT: Morton

Wouldn't be surprised if Petts came in for Morton because of structures.

Agree Sante. Who else would have stopped Ablett? Pretty much every other team doesn't have someone who can stop him either. His body strength is tremendous. Jackson's disposal is poor - if he replaces Hyde we sacrifice skill and the odd goal. McGuane dropped too? Harsh.

[beaver fever]

Agree Sante. Who else would have stopped Ablett? Pretty much every other team doesn't have someone who can stop him either. His body strength is tremendous. Jackson's disposal is poor - if he replaces Hyde we sacrifice skill and the odd goal. McGuane dropped too? Harsh.
What rubbish, Hyde's skills are just as bad as his decision making. Put him under pressure or force him onto his right foot and you can guarantee a turnover. Hyde has been given his chance and it's time to see whether Jackson is up to it. If he isn't then both should be delisted at the end of the year.

[pace to freeze]

Thoughts of most seem to be surrounded around the following possible changes :
OUT
Hyde, McMahon, Edwards and McGuanne
INS
Patto, Schultz, Rance, JON, Connors and some Petts

personally would think, and hope, if fit Schultz and Pato will definately be back in and possibly either Rance or JON for McMahon, and maybe Connors for Edwards ???

[Wally07]

In: Schultz put him at CHB and leave him there for the rest of the year.

[James_Best]

Richmond v Essendon


RICHMOND: NO CHANGE

[CoggaRules]

Richmond v Essendon


RICHMOND: NO CHANGE

maybe 1...but i am with ya on this one. If it were the bummers in the wet against us on saturday, we would have won by a 100. We were all over the cats in the first half, the only reason we werent 7 or 8 goals up at the half was that they are the best team in the comp and we are still learning how to kill opponents off. The hard part for us was leaning how we can get to the position of killing them off.
Blind freddy can see that we can mix it, when we attack the pill, now all that remains is to fine tune the finishing. I expect nothing less than a 10 goal smashing of the bummers next saturday night, which will go a long way in the next phase of the resurrection. Kill them when you can.
The end. ;)

[Madtiger2006]

i wanna see players like hughes, polo, connors in the side soon. I think edwards will be first to go this week. He hasn't done that much over the last month apart from a couple of good things against the saints. I'd also like to see Schultz replace Polak. Polak turns it over by foot too much

[eyeofthetiger]

out bowden, hyde.
in patty,JON or hughes if there over there injuries.
or i'll settle for
patty and tiv.
pettifer and bowden gone for ever.

[Coughlan]

McGuane to get dropped?
WTF do half of you guys actually watch the bloody game, he was one of our better players.

[silence ofthe Robert]

i wanna see players like hughes, polo, connors in the side soon. I think edwards will be first to go this week. He hasn't done that much over the last month apart from a couple of good things against the saints. I'd also like to see Schultz replace Polak. Polak turns it over by foot too much

Polak out eh - 19 posessions (9 contested) 10 marks (3 contested) at close to 80% efficiency in 60% time on ground.

Does anyone actually watch the game anymore?

[krustyman]

Out: riewoldt, morton. edwards keep his spot or replace him with collard
In: schultz, Pets

[itsintheblood]

out bowden, hyde.
in patty,JON or hughes if there over there injuries.
or i'll settle for
patty and tiv.
pettifer and bowden gone for ever.

JON has a broken arm.

[itsintheblood]

Thoughts of most seem to be surrounded around the following possible changes :
OUT
Hyde, McMahon, Edwards and McGuanne
INS
Patto, Schultz, Rance, JON, Connors and some Petts

personally would think, and hope, if fit Schultz and Pato will definately be back in and possibly either Rance or JON for McMahon, and maybe Connors for Edwards ???

Who are you?

[Big Kitty]

Fair enough to drop Hyde after his job on Ablett but Morton & Riewoldt a bit stiff, i thought they had been impressive so far.

[HBK619]

Polak out eh - 19 posessions (9 contested) 10 marks (3 contested) at close to 80% efficiency in 60% time on ground.

Does anyone actually watch the game anymore?
Not to mention 3 tackles, which is great from a big man, though if he is going to play in the ruck needs more than 3 hitouts.

[Truetiger]

A poor game from both Riewoldt and Morton in the wet isn't a good reason to drop them

Agree. Anyone that asks for these 2 players to get dropped have no idea. Wet weather. Keep them both in the side.

[Realistic Tiger]

Agree. Anyone that asks for these 2 players to get dropped have no idea. Wet weather. Keep them both in the side.
The wet weather should have seen Morton peform better than he did on Saturday. Has 8 touches by 1/4 time and ended with 10 for the game. To me it just wasn't good enough.

As for Jack, while he wasn't helped by the conditions on Saturday, he just looked like he was a little bit flat and would benefit from a run at Coburg just to freshen him up a bit. After thinking about it for the past day or so, I admit I was wrong to call for him to be dropped and now think they might go in unchanged.

[RichosGuns]

On Sport 927 Greg Miller was asked about the dream team game. He said along the lines of "yer the bombers, the bombers have a few indegenous players. JON was really pushing for selection but will miss through injury, but we still have Tambling playing"

Maybe that's an indication that Edwards might be dropped

[Foleys Footy]

In: Rance, Pattison
Out: Hyde, Edwards

[richoatthedisco]

On Sport 927 Greg Miller was asked about the dream team game. He said along the lines of "yer the bombers, the bombers have a few indegenous players. JON was really pushing for selection but will miss through injury, but we still have Tambling playing"

Maybe that's an indication that Edwards might be dropped
Or an indication that Edwards ain't exactly black. He'd be lucky to be 10% Aboriginal. More than enough to qualify for Abstudy I guess.

[RichosGuns]

Or an indication that Edwards ain't exactly black. He'd be lucky to be 10% Aboriginal. More than enough to qualify for Abstudy I guess.

Edward's is indegenous.

Barak Obama is black, does that make him aboriginal? :rolleyes:

[deliberate!!]

Is there a contract somewhere that says just because it's the Dreamtime game we HAVE TO play Tambling?...... :rolleyes:

Let's think outside the square, be a little bit different..... *drum roll*

LET'S DROP TAMBLING !!! lol (What's he getting a game for?......hmmmm?)

(Go on have a crack/ call me an idiot, a non-Richmond supporter, blah, blah, etc.......but as true as you hate me saying it....."Bling still ain't the thing")

How much longer do we have to wait? 100 games, 200?.....till he challenges Michael Tuck?

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Poor Marty McGrath....we gave him less chances than Tambling. :(

[RichosGuns]

Is there a contract somewhere that says just because it's the Dreamtime game we HAVE TO play Tambling?...... :rolleyes:

Let's think outside the square, be a little bit different..... *drum roll*

LET'S DROP TAMBLING !!! lol (What's he getting a game for?......hmmmm?)

(Go on have a crack/ call me an idiot, a non-Richmond supporter, blah, blah, etc.......but as true as you hate me saying it....."Bling still ain't the thing")

How much longer do we have to wait? 100 games, 200?.....till he challenges Michael Tuck?

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Poor Marty McGrath....we gave him less chances than Tambling. :(

Marty McGrath, ha. Killed it in his first match but refused to give away the fags, booze and hence lost what potentially was a very good and long career

Meanwhile, i saw we persist with Tambling. How the hell would well play in the dreamtime match, if we didn't have any abordiginals playing?

[deliberate!!]

Marty McGrath, ha. Killed it in his first match but refused to give away the fags, booze and hence lost what potentially was a very good and long career

Meanwhile, i saw we persist with Tambling. How the hell would well play in the dreamtime match, if we didn't have any abordiginals playing?

At least Marty had an excuse......what's Bling?

If Marty played pissed it would have been better than anything Bling has to offer.

And there is the problem 'RichosGuns'
So because of this stupid Dreamtime game we must play Aboriginals no matter what state of readiness they are?
What if we get rid of Bling and draft 3 Aboriginal guys next year?
What if they aren't ready to play....MUST WE PLAY THEM?
What if for the next 10 years the RFC deems fit to draft all White, Blue, Green or Japanese people?
What if there is a shortage of good Aboriginal players for the next 5 years?
The Essendon Football Club & the RFC are now locked into this stupid Game.

Have a Dreamtime weekend for all clubs.
Don't make 2 teams HAVE TO play aboriginal players on one night.

Stupid ____ing concept......Dreamed up by Sheedy to stop the RFC Club bitching about not getting a game on Anzac Day.

As a kid I saw the RFC Club play lots on Anzac Day.

[Richmond FC]

Your a joke Deliberate! Tambling this year is certainly in our starting 22. He certainly wasnt out worst on the weekend and in the 3 weeks prior he had an influence on the game. He is a goal kicking midfielder who has the potential as his body grows to become a real force in the league with explosive clearances. He is very close to being there needs some confidence and too just almost not try so hard sometimes. I think he runs to fast and then hinders his kicks which doesnt help.

[deliberate!!]

Your a joke Deliberate! Tambling this year is certainly in our starting 22.

He certainly wasnt out worst on the weekend and in the 3 weeks prior he had an influence on the game. He is a goal kicking midfielder who has the potential as his body grows to become a real force in the league with explosive clearances. He is very close to being there needs some confidence and too just almost not try so hard sometimes. I think he runs to fast and then hinders his kicks which doesnt help.

"Your a joke Deliberate! Tambling this year is certainly in our starting 22"
That's says a lot about our starting 22!!

"He is a goal kicking midfielder"
He's a little boy lost out there....watch him, THE WHOLE GAME.

"Explosive clearances"
And explosive handballs to team mates 1 foot away when he gets into trouble.

"Who has the potential as his body grows"
Once he grows into what...a tree? A silo?....The guys built like a fly.....he's like Michael Mitchell with anorexia. He ain't growing into a Tank peanut, he has his body type now.

"He runs too fast"
Yeh, he runs too fast, and thinks too slow in traffic...Watch when he can't run through a pack....he has a Slurpee Brain Freeze.

Hey Richmond FC,
Don't hate me cause I'm pretty!!

[Jisha]

Yeah I do not like you much either Deliberate. You are nothing but a pathetic negative person with a poor attitude that thinks highly of yourself for using long, drawn out paragraphs. You are a disgrace.

Stop being negative and start being useful in discussion for a change.

[richoatthedisco]

Edward's is indegenous.

Barak Obama is black, does that make him aboriginal? :rolleyes:
If there were a DNA test on Edwards' racial makeup or even a look at his family tree, I bet you that less than 10% of his bloodlines is Aboriginal. As with Obama, there is a lot of white blood in there. It just gets ignored.

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200609/r107885_393307.jpg (http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200609/r107885_393307.jpg)
This is what a full-blood Aborigine looks like.



This is what Shane Edwards looks like.
http://mm.afl.com.au/portals/0/images_richmond/Player_Profiles/2008_EdwardsS_Profile_med.jpg

He's got green eyes, FFS.

[BigWardy12]

If there were a DNA test on Edwards' racial makeup or even a look at his family tree, I bet you that less than 10% of his bloodlines is Aboriginal. As with Obama, there is a lot of white blood in there. It just gets ignored.

He's got green eyes, FFS.

what point are you trying to make here?
that edwards isnt aboriginal? that he doesnt look like david Gulpulil or however u spell it? u cant be aboriginal unless you look like him? you cant be aboriginal if you have green eyes?

[richoatthedisco]

what point are you trying to make here?
that edwards isnt aboriginal? that he doesnt look like david Gulpulil or however u spell it? u cant be aboriginal unless you look like him? you cant be aboriginal if you have green eyes?
Yep, that's my point. He's more white than Aboriginal. It's tokenism. At most he should be referred to as part-Aboriginal.

[bigrayohall20]

In: Rance, Pattison
Out: Hyde, Edwards

There is no way they would drop Edwards, Morton or Jack.

Get rid of Hyde and bring in Patto. Simmonds cant do the load on his own and Polak is a waste when he is in the ruck.

[BigWardy12]

Yep, that's my point. He's more white than Aboriginal. It's tokenism. At most he should be referred to as part-Aboriginal.

so hes part aboriginal but not aboriginal?:eek:

[richoatthedisco]

so hes part aboriginal but not aboriginal?:eek:
There you go!

[bigrayohall20]

so hes part aboriginal but not aboriginal?:eek:

It makes perfect sense. :eek:

[richoatthedisco]

It makes perfect sense. :eek:
Of course it makes sense. Otherwise, why not call him white? My point is that anyone whose grandmother's grandmother was Aboriginal gets called indigenous, when you could trace much stronger roots back to the First Fleet or the royal family.

[BigWardy12]

Of course it makes sense. Otherwise, why not call him white? My point is that anyone whose grandmother's grandmother was Aboriginal gets called indigenous, when you could trace much stronger roots back to the First Fleet or the royal family.

read this statement:
"If your aboriginal your aboriginal"
...now think about it...

anyone who has an argument against the above statement is a moron.

[CaptainBlood]

Edwards isn't "listed" as being aboriginal or white or anything else. Clubs don't have to provide the race of each player on their official records - so .... W H O C A R E S ? ? ? ? ?
I can't believe we are having this debate.
What difference does it make?
The indigenous players tend to get highlighted a bit more this week for obvious reasons and you could argue that JON's debut was brought forward a few weeks because of the Dreamtime game - most likely because TW thought he might rise to the occasion rather than any sense of tokenism.
Anyway, enough of that irrelevent topic.
On the team, I would think one of Morton or Edwards could have a spell in the twos based on form, which would open the door for Petts or maybe a kid who is doing well at Coburg (Collins?).
Not sure why everyone thinks Patto is a certainty to come back in, he hasn't had any impact this year and Polak was one of our best last week and can pinch-hit in the ruck. In fact, I could pinch-hit in the ruck against Laycock.

[tigerintheblood]

first , im quite excited about this match up
a player whom was a legend for the club forced to retire early , now coaching the team who are bitter rivals with his old club ?
i mean the storylines that could be plucked out by channel 10 to run for a good 15 minutes before the game should be a spectakle in itself
in regards with the team obviously those whom are deserving of a game should be chosen , no doubt that the game is celebrating the aboriginal influence on the great game of ours , but to choose aboriginal players over those deserving a game is wrong personally i would love too see JON . and collins run out
but realistically i think that terry must bring back pettifer and pattison
although edwards and hyde have been good in spurts , they arent just cutting it at the moment and MUST bulk up and develop further in the VFL

[-JCK-]

we need to keep playing Reiwoldt
Hyde deffintly needs to go back to the 2nds
Morton hmmmmmmmm i think he ned to stay in the team. ...Not everyone can play good in one game

[richoatthedisco]

Edwards isn't "listed" as being aboriginal or white or anything else. Clubs don't have to provide the race of each player on their official records - so .... W H O C A R E S ? ? ? ? ?
I can't believe we are having this debate.
What difference does it make?
The indigenous players tend to get highlighted a bit more this week for obvious reasons and you could argue that JON's debut was brought forward a few weeks because of the Dreamtime game - most likely because TW thought he might rise to the occasion rather than any sense of tokenism.
Anyway, enough of that irrelevent topic.
On the team, I would think one of Morton or Edwards could have a spell in the twos based on form, which would open the door for Petts or maybe a kid who is doing well at Coburg (Collins?).
Not sure why everyone thinks Patto is a certainty to come back in, he hasn't had any impact this year and Polak was one of our best last week and can pinch-hit in the ruck. In fact, I could pinch-hit in the ruck against Laycock.
I agree, it's irrelevant. I made a throwaway comment that was jumped on, forcing me to explain myself. Having said that, the drop of Aboriginal blood in Edwards will ensure he gets a game. That and the fact he's a bloody ripper little goer who will play in front of many big crowds in his time, so TW will want to give him a taste. Ditto Riewoldt. Otherwise you could argue both of them need a spell. Could see Collins coming in - wouldn't that set this board alight!
For me, it's:
IN: Schulz, Connors
OUT: Hyde, McGuane
I'll get howled down for dropping McGuane but he really ain't much of a player and hopefully not part of our future. Schulz I reckon is and was bewildered as to why he was dropped in the first place.

read this statement:
"If your aboriginal your aboriginal"
...now think about it...

anyone who has an argument against the above statement is a moron.
No, anyone who writes "your" when they mean "you're" is a moron.

[BigWardy12]

No, anyone who writes "your" when they mean "you're" is a moron.

thats all you got? a spelling mistake.:rolleyes:

[richoatthedisco]

thats all you got? a spelling mistake.:rolleyes:
You want more, moron? Ponder this question: are Collingwood's jumpers black, or are they white?

[BigWardy12]

You want more, moron? Ponder this question: are Collingwood's jumpers black, or are they white?

we are not talking about objects here we are talking about people.
you are either aboriginal or you are not.

[sante]

we need to keep playing Reiwoldt
Hyde deffintly needs to go back to the 2nds
Morton hmmmmmmmm i think he ned to stay in the team. ...Not everyone can play good in one game


But Hyde only played one poor game. :confused:

[richoatthedisco]

we are not talking about objects here we are talking about people.
you are either aboriginal or you are not.
You are a dildo. It's called being mixed race.

[BigWardy12]

You are a dildo. It's called being mixed race.

yeah you can be mixed race and be aboriginal. If you are mixed race it doesnt mean you are not aboriginal.

[Ize Of The World]

Out - Edwards
In - A tie between Patto and Schulz

[bloodiedtiger]

Edwards isn't "listed" as being aboriginal or white or anything else. Clubs don't have to provide the race of each player on their official records - so .... W H O C A R E S ? ? ? ? ?
I can't believe we are having this debate.
What difference does it make?
The indigenous players tend to get highlighted a bit more this week for obvious reasons and you could argue that JON's debut was brought forward a few weeks because of the Dreamtime game - most likely because TW thought he might rise to the occasion rather than any sense of tokenism.
Anyway, enough of that irrelevent topic.
On the team, I would think one of Morton or Edwards could have a spell in the twos based on form, which would open the door for Petts or maybe a kid who is doing well at Coburg (Collins?).
Not sure why everyone thinks Patto is a certainty to come back in, he hasn't had any impact this year and Polak was one of our best last week and can pinch-hit in the ruck. In fact, I could pinch-hit in the ruck against Laycock.


wrong. edwards is listed as an indiginous afl player!

get ur facts straight, and his dad was an awesome player in sa

[sante]

Not sure why everyone thinks Patto is a certainty to come back in, he hasn't had any impact this year and Polak was one of our best last week and can pinch-hit in the ruck. In fact, I could pinch-hit in the ruck against Laycock.


Polak was up against Mumford :o