View Full Version : Lack of Indigenous players on our list needs to be addressed!! they bring different talent
We lost Sampi and Wirra is will retire after this year
Kerr plays like a white guy!!....
The Kangaroos and Port's Indigenous players really hurt us with speed and fleet of foot
they do the mecurial....we are the most predictable footy side in the comp
Our players dont do the unpredictable
bzparkes
17 May 2008, 23:33
Kerr isn't even aboriginal for a start.
Secondly, we draft according to our needs and best available talent. The day you start targetting indigenous players specifically is the day you end up being like Essendon.
larrikin
17 May 2008, 23:33
Oh FFS
Players don't have to be indigenous to be creative.
Pridinator
17 May 2008, 23:35
Lewis and Ugle before him are about the only aboriginal players I recall us having that have done well. And during our success we've been in bad positions to draft these type of players. Also we did have two freaks in our midfield that meant that crumbing in and under forward wasn't needed as much.
I look at a Wonamiri from Melbourne...they just are creative...I actually belive you need a few like that in your side
you cant argue that we are the most predictable side ever...even when we won we were very predictable
J Swizzle
17 May 2008, 23:37
We lost Sampi and Wirra is will retire after this year
Kerr plays like a white guy!!....
The Kangaroos and Port's Indigenous players really hurt us with speed and fleet of foot
they do the mecurial....we are the most predictable footy side in the comp
Our players dont do the unpredictable
lol..
Anyway I wouldn't mind an Andrew Lovett in our forward line..
beatlesmith
17 May 2008, 23:43
lovett wouldn't be bad, but is probably too old for what we are looking at. Gartlett should be avialable in the 3rd round and would be very nice. Typically, Indigenous crumbing specialists tend to be far more ready to play in the big league than KP players, so Gartlett should be ready round 1 (ala c.rioli). Would love to be able to get yarran also and put him in the akermanis/cousins role of midfield/forward flank. It's not about us not having indegenous players, its about us lacking pace and a crumber (which indigenous players tend to be).
bigburger
18 May 2008, 01:15
Its all good mate don't stress. Daniel Wells will be playing for us next year :cool:
Chris who
18 May 2008, 01:27
Lewis and Ugle before him are about the only aboriginal players I recall us having that have done well. And during our success we've been in bad positions to draft these type of players. Also we did have two freaks in our midfield that meant that crumbing in and under forward wasn't needed as much.
Yeah the materas were shit
Pick the BEST available.
Simply put.
Underdog
18 May 2008, 03:30
Kerr plays like a white guy!!....
Lewis and Ugle before him are about the only aboriginal players I recall us having that have done well.
With quotes like these, you really have to ask yourself "is it really worth giving a considered answer?".
Marlin01
18 May 2008, 11:27
Last night I thought our forward line looked the best it has for a very long time. Kennedy was terrific with his marking and distribution and Lynch and McKinley were presenting up nicely. The one weakness that stood out to me, was watching the big fellas chase their opponents when Kanga defenders got hold of it. Our blokes held their own and tried reasonably hard, but the Kanga defenders were never in any real danger of being run down, like Sampi and Phil Matera used to do a few times a game. Running down the defenders from behind really seemed to lift our team and make our opponents second guess themselves when they had the ball.
I'd love to see us pick up a small forward who reads the play well and has lots of pace. Aboriginal or not.
Ok what I mean!! for those whio cant analyse something simple
Kerr plays conested footy..hes an "inside" player...we need a creative half fwd type...yes we have lecca but Lecca is really a leading fwd who just happens to be small
we also need some players who dont do the conventional thing everytime they get it
We have a heap of inside players...we have very few outiside players..aboriginal players are great "outside" players
Last night I thought our forward line looked the best it has for a very long time. Kennedy was terrific with his marking and distribution and Lynch and McKinley were presenting up nicely. The one weakness that stood out to me, was watching the big fellas chase their opponents when Kanga defenders got hold of it. Our blokes held their own and tried reasonably hard, but the Kanga defenders were never in any real danger of being run down, like Sampi and Phil Matera used to do a few times a game. Running down the defenders from behind really seemed to lift our team and make our opponents second guess themselves when they had the ball.
I'd love to see us pick up a small forward who reads the play well and has lots of pace. Aboriginal or not.
your last line is what Im trying to say..and yes most of them are aboriginal
Underdog
18 May 2008, 15:22
Kerr plays conested footy..hes an "inside" player...we need a creative half fwd type...yes we have lecca but Lecca is really a leading fwd who just happens to be small
What has Kerr got to do with anything? He isn't aboriginal
We have a heap of inside players...we have very few outiside players..aboriginal players are great "outside" players
Just like Caucasians, aboriginals have just as many duds as stars. I certainly wouldn't want an Andy Krakour, Shannon Motlop, Marty McGrath, Ashley Sampi, Keren Ugle etc etc
materamagic
18 May 2008, 15:26
We lost Sampi and Wirra is will retire after this year
Kerr plays like a white guy!!....
The Kangaroos and Port's Indigenous players really hurt us with speed and fleet of foot
they do the mecurial....we are the most predictable footy side in the comp
Our players dont do the unpredictable
You don't have to be indigenous to have a licence to be mecurial, exciting and possess an uncanny goalsense. Alan Didak, Peter Daicos, I go on.
Small men in general have hurt us more than the big boofheads. It is an endurance game. Produce a good 4 quarter effort and you are a chance, against any opposition.
Crimson King
18 May 2008, 15:33
When we end up getting Yarran and Hartlett along with Rich you will cream your pants in 2010/11.
What has Kerr got to do with anything? He isn't aboriginal
Just like Caucasians, aboriginals have just as many duds as stars. I certainly wouldn't want an Andy Krakour, Shannon Motlop, Marty McGrath, Ashley Sampi, Keren Ugle etc etc
he has aboriginal blood in him
look agree just think we lack those types of players...and you cant argue that we are very predictable team
We drafted Thomas who played a year in the SANFL seniors and Campbell from the QAFL who also played his last year in the seniors. We were sadly lacking in the small crumbing type forwards who could also rotate in the midfield.
One was a rookie and the other a late round pick so you can experiment a bit with getting a bit more flair in the side without investing heavily. We wanted to know that the ones we took wouldn't have any issues playing against big mature body size players and I think it has worked well for us. They give us a lot of spark up forward which has been missing prior to 2007.
he has aboriginal blood in him
I'm almost entirely sure that Kerr has -no- aboriginal blood in him at all. We need some quick, outside finishers. I don't care if they are white, indigenous, asian, african, anything, as long as they fit in with what we need.
can someone confirm, is this CLINTON garlett we are talking about, lol theres alot of garletts, glenn, dylan...
I'm almost entirely sure that Kerr has -no- aboriginal blood in him at all. We need some quick, outside finishers. I don't care if they are white, indigenous, asian, african, anything, as long as they fit in with what we need.
my bad andf apologies then I did think his dad was part aboriginal
agree we need a quicjk finisher or two...someone can run and carry and kick goals
can someone confirm, is this CLINTON garlett we are talking about, lol theres alot of garletts, glenn, dylan...
I may be wrong Trumby, but I think people are referring to Jeff Garlett, wingman in Swans league team.
Not sure many, barring a few obsessed ones, know about Clinton, who I presume, is the AIS scholarship holder from Swannies you are referring to?
We need a natural crumber. Dont care what colour his skin is. It just so happens that aboriginal blokes have a certain creative spark and feel for the game which is so critical to that role. Some white guys have it but harder to find in them.
Lecca and McKinley are not crumbers.
Crimson King
19 May 2008, 00:59
TOA red carder?:eek:
What is going on around here...?:confused:
wce_all_da_way
19 May 2008, 01:19
I was just searching his previous posts to see what must have caused it and it was either a) A ridiculous decision or b) the posts were deleted. Shocked me too. :confused:
sydney eagle
19 May 2008, 12:18
We need a natural crumber. Dont care what colour his skin is. It just so happens that aboriginal blokes have a certain creative spark and feel for the game which is so critical to that role. Some white guys have it but harder to find in them.
Lecca and McKinley are not crumbers. Agreed "TOA" !:thumbsu: We need a crumber who can get the ball and kick goals , a Phil Matera or a Tony Evans would do just fine !
I may be wrong Trumby, but I think people are referring to Jeff Garlett, wingman in Swans league team.
Not sure many, barring a few obsessed ones, know about Clinton, who I presume, is the AIS scholarship holder from Swannies you are referring to?
yeah clinton the one in the afl/ais thingy, he plays for swan districts (colts i think) and for carey park in the swfl.
can someone please confirm which one that we may be looking for, please.
Wirra wont retire after this year. Hes in awesome form. Why would he retire?
Tuffy71
19 May 2008, 14:02
Kerr is Indian/Aussie.Sri Lankan I think.
TheBigUnit
19 May 2008, 15:45
Sri Lankan I think.
No, he's Anglo Indian: http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/what-makes-him-run/2007/04/13/1175971352183.html
Wirra wont retire after this year. Hes in awesome form. Why would he retire?
Cause his body might stop before his mind does Embers.
Cmon man, they dont last forever. :)
beatlesmith
20 May 2008, 02:02
Cause his body might stop before his mind does Embers.
Cmon man, they dont last forever. :)
i gather that he is already planning his foray in to politics. Perhaps Australia's first indigenous prime minister? He has been great this year and if he was up for another year we could hardly say no. Would love to get him onboard as a youth or defence coach after retirement as his onfield and off-field characteristics are a shining example for young kids (especially Vics as he could show them how he got over his homesickness) and you would be hard pressed to find a nicer bloke.
sydney eagle
20 May 2008, 12:31
yeah clinton the one in the afl/ais thingy, he plays for swan districts (colts i think) and for carey park in the swfl.
can someone please confirm which one that we may be looking for, please. I thought that this young Garlett had a really odd name like Cruize or something ?
I thought that this young Garlett had a really odd name like Cruize or something ?
lol he got drafted onto the roos' rookie list last year :thumbsu:
sydney eagle
20 May 2008, 16:36
lol he got drafted onto the roos' rookie list last year :thumbsu: Darn ! I knew that I should have invested in that "Observers Book Of Garlett's" !:eek: