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Terry Tan
18 May 2008, 11:23
This kid is slowly improving, but I don't think he will ever be the champion we thought when he was drafted.
Yesterday should have been a blue ribbon day for him in those types of conditions, but he was found wanting.
His body is underdeveloped and not strong enough.
He's not even that quick.
He hasn't got great decision making skills.
His kicking is ordinary.
It's easy to break his tackles.
And he's in & out of the game.
He's played enough games now and been given enough opportunities to show his supposed class, but it's just not happening.
Is it time we admit this kid is not what we thought he was going to be???
TigerTroy0055
18 May 2008, 12:24
This kid is slowly improving, but I don't think he will ever be the champion we thought when he was drafted.
Yesterday should have been a blue ribbon day for him in those types of conditions, but he was found wanting.
His body is underdeveloped and not strong enough.
He's not even that quick.
He hasn't got great decision making skills.
His kicking is ordinary.
It's easy to break his tackles.
And he's in & out of the game.
He's played enough games now and been given enough opportunities to show his supposed class, but it's just not happening.
Is it time we admit this kid is not what we thought he was going to be???Not willing to Write him off yet. He possess's alot of talent and will make an impact , these type of players take a while although it is frustrating.
Best example is Neon Leon from Collingwood. It took him 6 years to play consistant footy and has done so for 4 years now. Stick with him , he has more upside than Leon and Leon played in the all star game last week
Top4_Tiger
18 May 2008, 12:27
Probably about his 3rd game in raining conditions in his life.
Still looks like becoming a star.
beaver fever
18 May 2008, 12:29
Tambling is going alright mate. It's obvious he is still being kept on cotton wool and once he is given full midfield duties we will see his worth.
Since when did we think Tambling was going to be a superstar? He has played 61 matches and has improved every year. I think the club would be happy with his progress.
Truetiger
18 May 2008, 12:44
Cotchin made Tambling look second rate bigtime. lol
You guys are pathetic. Jump off players after one poor match.
lookkg386
18 May 2008, 12:46
Must admit I thought yesterday he would shine, but pretty poor game. but still improving all the same.
emperor
18 May 2008, 12:49
Tambo obviously isn't the out and out star that he was touted as being on draft day but can still be a very damaging player. Just struggles to find consistency which is frustrating as a supporter. His work in and under is good at times, but still lacks polish.
going alright though:thumbsu:
Accepted 04
18 May 2008, 13:25
I will admit Tambling didn't star yesterday but his courage when he dived on the ball and his tackling was very good
Coach_Required
18 May 2008, 13:31
This kid is slowly improving, but I don't think he will ever be the champion we thought when he was drafted.
Yesterday should have been a blue ribbon day for him in those types of conditions, but he was found wanting.
His body is underdeveloped and not strong enough.
He's not even that quick.
He hasn't got great decision making skills.
His kicking is ordinary.
It's easy to break his tackles.
And he's in & out of the game.
He's played enough games now and been given enough opportunities to show his supposed class, but it's just not happening.
Is it time we admit this kid is not what we thought he was going to be???
Terry, seriously the 2 bits I have highlighted go hand in hand, if he can bulk up enough then his tackles will stick even more. He is alot bigger now than when he first came to the club so I am confident he will continue to get bigger.
He isnt that bad at tackling, if im not mistaken he would go close to being our leading tackler, the problem he has is when the opposition run directly at him and he needs to tackle front on.
As for saying he isnt quick, did you watch his run down on Selwood yesterday? I believe he ran him down and caught him, he even got a free kick for it. Speed is his asset, he is still quick so I will disagree with you there.
His kicking lets him down when he tries those pussy little 20 meter stab passes, he stuffs them up, put him 40 meters out and he has a very accurate kick on him.
He is progressing IMO, I am prefering this years Richie to previous years, cant wait to see him continue his improvement over the next few years because it will happen.
If your expecting him to become a "Buddy Franklin" type of freak, your going to be continually disappointed because that just wont happen ever.
Give the kid a break.
Wasn't the only who struggled yesterday. has been very consistent this year. had a poor one yesterday. It happens.
You guys are pathetic. Jump off players after one poor match.
Agree Sante.
I thought Tambling had a good game.
Just because he missed that open goal doesn't mean he is a bad player.
The play leading up to that goal shot was terrific.
The bloke made some terrific handballs in congested areas that hit the target because of his speed of thinking in those situations.
The blokes only 20/21?
Give the bloke a break please.
krustyman
18 May 2008, 13:49
tambling was poor, and gave selwood to much space. he still rushes his shot when running into a open goal and need to learn how to compose himself.
Checkers
18 May 2008, 14:02
1 bad game out of 8 and everyone jumps off.
Wet, cold weather isnt his type of football.
Richo88
18 May 2008, 14:04
How can anyone say the game yesterday was suited to Tambling style. As mentioned his body needs a couple kgs and one of his assets is his speed all this makes it much harder for him to perform at his best in the wet.
Strawbs
18 May 2008, 14:31
This kid is slowly improving, but I don't think he will ever be the champion we thought when he was drafted.
Yesterday should have been a blue ribbon day for him in those types of conditions, but he was found wanting.
He's played enough games now and been given enough opportunities to show his supposed class, but it's just not happening.
Is it time we admit this kid is not what we thought he was going to be???
Had an excellent season to date. Chance Bateman took 9 years to play 100 games. You are having a lend of us - aren't you?
yup he should be able to kick 7 goals a game, get 50+possesions, and at least make 20+tackles by now. what a DUD.
The Dice Man
18 May 2008, 14:37
thought he beat Selwood yesterday :confused:
Calcium Man
18 May 2008, 14:44
Once again we should all jump on a young player after a below average game.
Morton was drafted the same year but he was poor after quartertime. Delist him now.
Reiwoldt didnt do enough. Its time to cut our losses now. 2 years is more then enough time to prove yourself.
You could go on.
Or we could accept the fact that it was Raining yesterday, we were playing the best team in the comp who are a lot bigger physically then us and fitter and we faded after half time.
As for saying tambling isnt quick thats a joke his run down on selwood was awesome and he went stride for stride with wojcinski.
Top4_Tiger
18 May 2008, 15:17
How can anyone say the game yesterday was suited to Tambling style. As mentioned his body needs a couple kgs and one of his assets is his speed all this makes it much harder for him to perform at his best in the wet.
Not to mention growing up in the heat of the NT!
peggles
18 May 2008, 20:00
1 bad game out of 8 and everyone jumps off.
Wet, cold weather isnt his type of football.
totally agree....tambling's had a good season thus far.......sure..not his best game yesterday possession wise...mainly due to the conditions...but still mighty impressed with his efforts..esp the tackle on selwood.....should have had 2 goals...shame he missed the one running at the goal...but at least he worked himself into position to take the shot..
i think some ppl just can't wait for tambling to have a subpar game and punce like crazy...
bloodiedtiger
18 May 2008, 20:41
all u so called tiger supporters and tambling bashers should all grow up or f off
ffs, he is having his best yr for us and as soon as he puts in a below average game in very below average conditions, you all head for your putch forks
if you dont like him f off and join the the hawks, but im a tiger and will defend this kid to the bone
only if some of our bigger bodied players had one ounce of tamblings courage
ffs listen to all u whinging wankers
YellowandBlackBlood
18 May 2008, 20:44
You guys mustn't watch the same games as I do.
Tambling's vision in and under packs is as good as anyones in the teams, including Axel's.
He does mar his performances with a clanger or two (like running into the open goal and missing), but all in all I feel he has often been the spark that has got us going in several matches. His pace and directional change almost always mesmerize the opposition. All he needs is everyone to stop comparing him with Franklin once and for all. It is not helping him or the team. Why is it so hard to work out that we cannot reverse the past so it's no use dwelling on it?
If supporters on this board TRULY love the Richmond Football Club, they would get behind Tambo and support him and not berate him. It's the only way to move forward.
polakthetiger
18 May 2008, 21:15
It would be so nice to go just one week in here without someone starting a 'bag Tambling' thread. FFS, just go to page 2 and post to one of the many from last week.:thumbsd: Then you will see just how much of a broken record it is becoming. Yaaaaaawn.
bigmac_41
18 May 2008, 21:16
when richmond are a top side tambling will be a gun
dgtigers72
18 May 2008, 21:20
Sack wallace now too hey Terry Tan.
You either are not a tigers supporter or you enjoy negativity.
Can't wait for your next installment of "Sink the boot in"
Di*khead:thumbsd:
Probably about his 3rd game in raining conditions in his life.
Still looks like becoming a star.
They play Footy in the wet season in Darwin so I doubt very much that he has only played in 3 raining games.
1 bad game out of 8 and everyone jumps off.
Wet, cold weather isnt his type of football.
I agree. Let's not be hasty with him. Some players take time. He's shown he's improved each year. I still think he'll develop into a quality player.
Give the kid a break, it would be so uncomfortable for a player like Tambling of constantly have football observers and supporters to look at everything he does. It's not the kids fault he was chosen ahead of buddy, and i bet there would be another 80 kids in that draft saying thank god it wasn't us in tamblings shoes. Richmond supporters should now realise that buddy might well be the greatest ( i hope dawks supporters don't read this ) but treat tambling and judge him as just another player and not expect him to do things buddy might do. But i don't blame Tambling for inconsistency, i believe the richmond team should look after him more. They need to give him the easy balls and the cheap kicks and possesions just to build his confidence. I believe once he hits the 30 possession mark he will believe in himself and constantly do it from then on.
football observers
There's the problem...From the way a lot of these people talk, they don't seem to observe much football.
bloodiedtiger
22 May 2008, 09:28
They play Footy in the wet season in Darwin so I doubt very much that he has only played in 3 raining games.
not when it is 8 degrees celsius on the park!
tony_montana
22 May 2008, 11:49
has definitely been better this season than previously, but i still dont think he'll be the star we all hoped he'd be, looks like developing into a reasonably solid player for us.
and stop making excuses about the conditions, "never played in such cold, never played in the rain" get off it. Dont hide him, hed be the first to put up his hand and say not good enough on the weekend, however he has been pretty good to very good at times in about 5-6 games in all fairness
bloodiedtiger
22 May 2008, 12:01
has definitely been better this season than previously, but i still dont think he'll be the star we all hoped he'd be, looks like developing into a reasonably solid player for us.
and stop making excuses about the conditions, "never played in such cold, never played in the rain" get off it. Dont hide him, hed be the first to put up his hand and say not good enough on the weekend, however he has been pretty good to very good at times in about 5-6 games in all fairness
foley had a 47% EFFICIENCY rate on his disposal last week, out rite pathetic, but i blame the conditions , not foleys ability, same thing goes with tambling
by careers end we will be praising tambl,ings career much more than deledios, mark my words.
tambling is already our best extractor, under every pack, and its guys like him who are making foley look much better.
g. healey won a brownlow thanks to one greg williams!
yes foley wins alot of ball, but alot of tamblings disposals get unnoticed cos he is very quick at releasing the hard ball from under a pack
Goldust
22 May 2008, 12:03
:thumbsu: Joke of a thread! For those of us watching the games this year, it is obvious Tambling has improved considerably.
Yet the cynics continue to wait in the wings, ready to pounce when he puts in a poor one, as I am willing to acknowledge he did Saturday.
But his first bad one in a long time.
Wake up and smell the roses. Doesn't matter whether you are Richo, Foley, Simmonds or Thursfield, or Jonathon Brown, Franklin, Judd or Pavlich - ALL players are inevitably going to have a bad day! Yet this guy cops it everytime.
I seriopusly question whether there are people on this board who are just waiting for Tambling to stuff up - and the fact he has been good this year hurts them immensely!
Yes Tambling missed a sitter on Saturday at a crucial time....so too did Cotchin. So too has the great Richo many times over the year. Kel Moore did a few weeks ago, so too has Browny. For God's sake, Franklin contributed a woeful 1.7 against us a few weeks back. Scott Welsh kicked 0.5 against us. But you would think Tambling was the only guy this year to have missed a sitter!!!
I just question some people and their motives!:mad:
Calcium Man
22 May 2008, 12:09
People also forget that tambling has been gett 60-70% gametime and still getting 20 odd possies and usually a goal not to mention quite a few clearances.
When he starts pushing up to 85-95% game time like a Richo, Deledio, Foley or whoever he will get the 25-30 possesions people on here expected him to get from his very first game.
richoatthedisco
22 May 2008, 12:17
by careers end we will be praising tambl,ings career much more than deledios, mark my words.
That's a massive call mate, but if you're right we'll all be smiling. I personally think that once he really hits his straps Deledio will be one of the out and out guns of the comp. Tambling? Still potentially a very good player but I can't quite see him ever being involved in a serious 'Who is the best player in the league?' debate. That said, i do think he will be very good. And that's enough.
bloodiedtiger
22 May 2008, 12:21
:thumbsu: Joke of a thread! For those of us watching the games this year, it is obvious Tambling has improved considerably.
Yet the cynics continue to wait in the wings, ready to pounce when he puts in a poor one, as I am willing to acknowledge he did Saturday.
But his first bad one in a long time.
Wake up and smell the roses. Doesn't matter whether you are Richo, Foley, Simmonds or Thursfield, or Jonathon Brown, Franklin, Judd or Pavlich - ALL players are inevitably going to have a bad day! Yet this guy cops it everytime.
I seriopusly question whether there are people on this board who are just waiting for Tambling to stuff up - and the fact he has been good this year hurts them immensely!
Yes Tambling missed a sitter on Saturday at a crucial time....so too did Cotchin. So too has the great Richo many times over the year. Kel Moore did a few weeks ago, so too has Browny. For God's sake, Franklin contributed a woeful 1.7 against us a few weeks back. Scott Welsh kicked 0.5 against us. But you would think Tambling was the only guy this year to have missed a sitter!!!
I just question some people and their motives!:mad:
gr8 post
and btw, tiger fans should not be bagging blingers bec he missed that goal, what he did was electric, yes he missed it , so what next time he wont, but he ran hard and fast to make that play and it was exciting
his efforts were brilliant, he just buggered up the execution, so what , he was not the first and will not be the last
bloodiedtiger
22 May 2008, 12:24
That's a massive call mate, but if you're right we'll all be smiling. I personally think that once he really hits his straps Deledio will be one of the out and out guns of the comp. Tambling? Still potentially a very good player but I can't quite see him ever being involved in a serious 'Who is the best player in the league?' debate. That said, i do think he will be very good. And that's enough.
the only thing that deledio has over tambling atm is a more developed body, tambling has many more strings to his bow, ands is not afraid to take every one on with his pace, deledio plays within himself and plays too safe, he plays like he is scared to stuff up.
as soon as tambling has an afl body, within the next 2 yrs, watch out and watch him demolish sides
tigertiger
22 May 2008, 13:25
They are all part of what will be an extrodinary midfield over the next few years, Tambling, Foley, Deledio, the returning Cogs and based on last weekends game Cotchin.
Now that will be the heart of a team with some serious talent
Tambling was a wasted high draft pick, but all teams have them. Eg: Mark Bolton. Cotchin has some skill.
corporal
22 May 2008, 15:41
Is it possible that Tambling has an injury?,
He seems to have good speed however he never actually runs hard.
Same with chasing and defensive pressure, Tambling never chases hard, so often I see him make a half hearted attempted then he stops puts his hands on his hips and watches the opposition stream away.
Being that if he was just being slack he would presumably be baked by the coaching staff I can only assume he is injured?.
I like the kid and think he is going to be servicable 200 game player for us but if he isn’t injured he needs to start chasing and putting proper defensive pressure on like the other small Aboriginal players (see the Davey's, Hooper, the Nth Melbourne boys) etc...
If he isn’t injured I’d be telling him to start running his arse off otherwise its back to Coburg till the learns how to run and chase properly.
Mind you I could probably say the same about Deledio buts that’s for a different thread.
beaver's army
22 May 2008, 15:59
i think most of the time its to do with the angle the opponent is running past as its alot harder to chase someone when you're turning than running straight behind them
tony_montana
22 May 2008, 16:19
foley had a 47% EFFICIENCY rate on his disposal last week, out rite pathetic, but i blame the conditions , not foleys ability, same thing goes with tambling
by careers end we will be praising tambl,ings career much more than deledios, mark my words.
tambling is already our best extractor, under every pack, and its guys like him who are making foley look much better.
g. healey won a brownlow thanks to one greg williams!
yes foley wins alot of ball, but alot of tamblings disposals get unnoticed cos he is very quick at releasing the hard ball from under a pack
a bit more sauce mate :p
hes NOT our best extractor and Foley does his own in and under work, pretty clear cut. Tambling does get noticed, sometimes for the wrong reasons, but yeah I'll cut him some slack but hes clearly improved his game.
CoggaRules
22 May 2008, 16:23
gr8 post
and btw, tiger fans should not be bagging blingers bec he missed that goal, what he did was electric, yes he missed it , so what next time he wont, but he ran hard and fast to make that play and it was exciting
his efforts were brilliant, he just buggered up the execution, so what , he was not the first and will not be the last
yep....at the time alot of tiger heads threw their hands up with disgust at the miss. But what they missed is that he made a lightning move to get the give and open up a gilt edged chance for himself, and that against a tight arse cat defence. He is going good. No probs with Bling atm. Most likely to tear the bummers a new one this saturday night too. ;)
Tambling was a wasted high draft pick, but all teams have them. Eg: Mark Bolton. Cotchin has some skill.
if tambling was a wasted pick then 99% of picks are wasted. You can't fill your list with A graders. You need some B and C graders as well. It's how those B and C graders compare with other clubs' B and C graders that eventuall makes you A grade.
Calcium Man
22 May 2008, 18:49
Is it possible that Tambling has an injury?,
He seems to have good speed however he never actually runs hard.
Same with chasing and defensive pressure, Tambling never chases hard, so often I see him make a half hearted attempted then he stops puts his hands on his hips and watches the opposition stream away.
Being that if he was just being slack he would presumably be baked by the coaching staff I can only assume he is injured?.
I like the kid and think he is going to be servicable 200 game player for us but if he isn’t injured he needs to start chasing and putting proper defensive pressure on like the other small Aboriginal players (see the Davey's, Hooper, the Nth Melbourne boys) etc...
If he isn’t injured I’d be telling him to start running his arse off otherwise its back to Coburg till the learns how to run and chase properly.
Mind you I could probably say the same about Deledio buts that’s for a different thread.
It baffles me this myth that Tambling doesn't work hard enough when chasing. He chased Selwood down from 10 meters behind on Saturday. He is a 2nd highest tackler for the season.
Where does this myth come from??
Drunken Wookie
22 May 2008, 20:21
It baffles me this myth that Tambling doesn't work hard enough when chasing. He chased Selwood down from 10 meters behind on Saturday. He is a 2nd highest tackler for the season.
Where does this myth come from??
He tackles well around packs but he lets himself down when it opens up, if the opposition player has any sort of forward momentum there's a 95% chance he'll break Tambling's tackle and dart away - you see him half heartedly try to cover the distance to lay a tackle a bit too often atm but he's improving, as witnessed with the Selwwod tackle.
Calcium Man
22 May 2008, 20:42
He tackles well around packs but he lets himself down when it opens up, if the opposition player has any sort of forward momentum there's a 95% chance he'll break Tambling's tackle and dart away - you see him half heartedly try to cover the distance to lay a tackle a bit too often atm but he's improving, as witnessed with the Selwwod tackle.
But thats just it, there is an aura that tambling has developed that people jump on him for being lazy. But i can remember a few chase from behind tackles he did last year. Griffen from the bullies was one. He had that great game against Collingwood he did one or two then i think there was a carlton guy and someone from Freo.
He is no less half hearted then anyone else on our list, except foley, and yet he gets all the abuse. When was the last time Deledio ran someone down, or Newman, or King, they barely know what defensive pressure is. Hyde is a tagger yet Im yet to see him lay a decent tackle all season.
Tambling scraps around the clearances makes smothers and usually puts a little pressure on the kick. But geez if he gets a bad angle on tele that shows him running at half pace when it looks like he could make the tackle everybody jumps on his back.
richoman12
22 May 2008, 20:51
if richie doesnt do somehting soon, he has to go.
i've seen enough of him and am forever waiting for him to put his head over the ball and do something!
Drunken Wookie
22 May 2008, 21:01
But thats just it, there is an aura that tambling has developed that people jump on him for being lazy. But i can remember a few chase from behind tackles he did last year. Griffen from the bullies was one. He had that great game against Collingwood he did one or two then i think there was a carlton guy and someone from Freo.
He is no less half hearted then anyone else on our list, except foley, and yet he gets all the abuse. When was the last time Deledio ran someone down, or Newman, or King, they barely know what defensive pressure is. Hyde is a tagger yet Im yet to see him lay a decent tackle all season.
Tambling scraps around the clearances makes smothers and usually puts a little pressure on the kick. But geez if he gets a bad angle on tele that shows him running at half pace when it looks like he could make the tackle everybody jumps on his back.
I understand what you mean, it just seems like he's in the prime position to chase and lay a tackle more often than anyone else in the team. I for example, constantly notice him in the foreground when an opposition player is bursting towards their forward 50, just sort of half-running after them, maybe he just stands out. Everyone needs to lift their tackling BIGTIME as we're the worst tackling side in the league.
Calcium Man
22 May 2008, 22:10
if richie doesnt do somehting soon, he has to go.
i've seen enough of him and am forever waiting for him to put his head over the ball and do something!
Yep never puts his head over the ball :rolleyes:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZdueGXPaqAI
I understand what you mean, it just seems like he's in the prime position to chase and lay a tackle more often than anyone else in the team. I for example, constantly notice him in the foreground when an opposition player is bursting towards their forward 50, just sort of half-running after them, maybe he just stands out. Everyone needs to lift their tackling BIGTIME as we're the worst tackling side in the league.
I notice it of a lot of players. But TV angles are deceiving.
Don't get me wrong o i would love for him to work a bit harder when we don't have it. But he is far from the worst offender in the side but its constantly harped on about when its Tambling. Deledio especially gets a free ride in this sense.
deliberate!!
22 May 2008, 22:21
I understand what you mean, it just seems like he's in the prime position to chase and lay a tackle more often than anyone else in the team. I for example, constantly notice him in the foreground when an opposition player is bursting towards their forward 50, just sort of half-running after them, maybe he just stands out. Everyone needs to lift their tackling BIGTIME as we're the worst tackling side in the league.
Exactly Wookie.....that's been my point for weeks.
Bling has an offensive pace, and a lower defensive pace.
(And to other supporters.....don't bring up one instance of him catching someone, cause that isn't his entire game)
He half runs after players MOST of the time.
He one arm, half tackles MOST of the time.
And watch him when the balls near him and he needs to be defensive. More than likely he's standing near 2 other Richmond players instead of being accountable. He wanders the ground like a nomad.
Now watch an opposite example in Kingy look around to see that everyone has a man, that he has man, wherever Kingy is on the ground. Tambling is unaware or hates the defensive aspect of footy.
Gumbleton4Life
22 May 2008, 22:25
forget what number he wwent in the draft. he isnt a bad player - perhaps not as good as predicted, but there are worse players going around than him. give the kid a break