Richmond The Next Geelong?

[Dimix1]

Forgive me if im wrong but... Does Richmond Look like its starting to look like geelong in 2006??

I mean yeah they where dominating the first halfs but dropping out after the second.. And the poise and Playing skill's Cotchin looks to be the next Gary Ablett.

Forgive me if im wrong this is just my point of view does any one else agree?

Oh and one of the Commentators Did suggest Cotchin has the same playing style as Gary Ablett Snr.

[betchsta]

Forgive me if im wrong but... does Richmond Look like its starting to look like geelong in 2006?? I mean yeah they where dominating the first halfs but dropping out after the second.. And the poise and Playing skill's Cotchin looks to be the next Garry Abellet. forgive me if im wrong this is just my point of view does any one else agree?

Cant say i do agree mate, cause ive got no idea who the hell Garry Abellet is.

[sante]

How can we say your are wrong when a) We won't know until next year or 2010 b) Its your opinion.

[Dimix1]

Cant say i do agree mate, cause ive got no idea who the hell Garry Abellet is.

Forgive me me for a spelling error? Gary Ablett. That better?? wouldn't wanna offend you or anything.

[Fortress Hawk]

Forgive me if im wrong but... does Richmond Look like its starting to look like geelong in 2006?? I mean yeah they where dominating the first halfs but dropping out after the second.. And the poise and Playing skill's Cotchin looks to be the next Garry Abellet. forgive me if im wrong this is just my point of view does any one else agree?

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Yep next geelong to bad by the time you reach that level richo would of retired!!!! Which prob means you will never reach that level! But as long as u keep staying positve! Thats all that matters!! HAHAHAHHA

[Deledio2Tambling]

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Yep next geelong to bad by the time you reach that level richo would of retired!!!! Which prob means you will never reach that level! But as long as u keep staying positve! Thats all that matters!! HAHAHAHHA

Remember kids, grammar is your friend. :thumbsu:

[beaver fever]

Remember kids, grammar is your friend. :thumbsu:
Made more sense than the OP.

[Captain_Brown_7]

Forgive me me for a spelling error? GArry Ablett. That better?? wouldn't wanna offend you or anything.

Hahaha...still wrong!:p

[astro_toby]

Forgive me me for a spelling error? GArry Ablett. That better?? wouldn't wanna offend you or anything.

yeah - mate - his name only has one r in Gary - should we forgive you twice?

[DanA]

Cant say i do agree mate, cause ive got no idea who the hell Garry Abellet is.

I reckon Foley is playing very very similar in style to Ablett this year. It is the Scarlett & Egan that you need to find.

Your team is built completely differently though. We are a much heavier and taller team and it isn't just about the age difference but more the path your coach has taken in drafting.

[Coughlan]

delete threads mods.
Just asking for opposition fans to invade.

Not to mention that Geelong were around the top 4 in the couple of years before 2006, where we won the spoon last year

[Wallaby]

The next Geelong? Hmm, let’s see…..

1. Loooong premiership drought – check.
2. Rabid fan base that seizes on any minor appearance of ability from young players and blows out of all proportion - check.
3. Series of slightly odd choices for coach over the years ranging from ‘Wise, old head’, to ‘Young, modern thinker’, ‘Former champion’ and even ‘Mildly eccentric’, none of whom made much difference – check.
4. Easy target for opposition supporters' derision – check.
5. Suddenly morph into unbeatable super-team that wins flag by 100 pts – aaaaah, have to work on that one……

So overall, most of the signs are promising.

[lookkg386]

Remember kids, grammar is your friend. :thumbsu:


I love her scones :thumbsu:

[acr2751]

Forgive me if im wrong but... does Richmond Look like its starting to look like geelong in 2006?? I mean yeah they where dominating the first halfs but dropping out after the second.. And the poise and Playing skill's Cotchin looks to be the next Garry Abellet. forgive me if im wrong this is just my point of view does any one else agree?

glad you can see this,
what i see is a very long road ahead hopefully we are on the right road.

[CQTiger]

yeah - mate - his name only has one r in Gary - should we forgive you twice?
BIGFOOTY needs a spelcheker

[kendo]

i wish abbelett played for us.

[tugga]

Forgive me if im wrong but... does Richmond Look like its starting to look like geelong in 2006?? I mean yeah they where dominating the first halfs but dropping out after the second.. And the poise and Playing skill's Cotchin looks to be the next Garry Abellet. forgive me if im wrong this is just my point of view does any one else agree?
We don't mind pumping ourselves up a bit do we? Forget about premierships. We just need to make the finals more than once every 12 years.

[cotcha now]

i wish abbelett played for us.
we have cotchin:)

[Spielvogel]

how about the st kilda of 2004?

[Vonsche]

how about the st kilda of 2004?

We'll need to release one of these first.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v53/jos80000/kilda10dvd.jpg

[Strawbs]

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Yep next geelong to bad by the time you reach that level richo would of retired!!!! Which prob means you will never reach that level! But as long as u keep staying positve! Thats all that matters!! HAHAHAHHA

Try "TOO bad" .
Try "would HAVE" or "would've". There is no such thing as "would of."

[Top4_Tiger]

If we are Geelong then we are the Geelong of 2003 - in about their 4th year and starting to rise up.

By Geelong's model we will win the flag around 2011/12 :D

Terry said he was modelling their rebuild from the start. Articles show him saying it in 2004.

[Mr T]

BIGFOOTY needs a spelcheker
haha lol thats for the collingwood suporters because thay are to pov to go to skool

[TigerGlory]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v53/jos80000/kilda10dvd.jpg

I like the tiny writing the most. It reads;

"A ten game streak that broke club records, established a new power side in the AFL and set St Kilda on the way to a new and exciting chapter in the history of the mighty side"

Now seriously, if thats not over-blowing something, then i dont know what is. :thumbsu:

[adelaidepower]

u guys serious the next geelong hey your last flag was in the early 80s and u havent made the finals since you guys got a losing culture

[bigpapagman]

we have.

3 times.

[magpies10]

Forgive me if im wrong but... does Richmond Look like its starting to look like geelong in 2006?? I mean yeah they where dominating the first halfs but dropping out after the second.. And the poise and Playing skill's Cotchin looks to be the next Garry Abellet. forgive me if im wrong this is just my point of view does any one else agree?

Gee pumping the boys tyres after 1 match, will most likely be a gem but let him take time to develop without putting that kind of pressure on him, take a look at Mark McGough 5 brownlow votes and an Anzac Day medal in his first 2 games and where is he now?

[Bojangles17]

Forgive me if im wrong but... does Richmond Look like its starting to look like geelong in 2006?? . forgive me if im wrong this is just my point of view does any one else agree?

absolutely, if anything probably better which will probably strike the fear of god into every other side out there.our depth is second to none, No other side has the number of quality youngsters yet to even test the water, that equals upside...when we say where will the likes of Rance, Putt, Gourdis, Casserly, connors, Collins , Gus all be in another 12 months, not too mention the youth already in senior side. What have the Cats won 27/28, ^&%$ that, we'll top it
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[Matthew2708]

u guys serious the next geelong hey your last flag was in the early 80s and u havent made the finals since you guys got a losing culture

(We won our last grand final in 1980 by about 81 points) ummm..... Im pretty sure we made the Grand final in 1982 (top of the ladder 1982), 9th in 1994, finished 3rd in 1995 and made the Preliminary Finals, 9th in 1996, 9th in 1998, 9th in 2000, 4th on the ladder in 2001 and made the Preliminary Finals, 9th in 2006. When we finished 9th, we just missed out on about 0-5 % each time really.

[bigstyletiger]

absolutely, if anything probably better which will probably strike the fear of god into every other side out there.our depth is second to none, No other side has the number of quality youngsters yet to even test the water, that equals upside...when we say where will the likes of Rance, Putt, Gourdis, Casserly, connors, Collins , Gus all be in another 12 months, not too mention the youth already in senior side. What have the Cats won 27/28, ^&%$ that, we'll top it
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Can't agree. Two reasons - i'd be very wary of counting your chickens before they hatch. How can you say Rance, Putt, Gourdis, Casserly, Conners, Gus are all quality youngsters. They are largely untried. Conners is the only player to have shown something at the top level. Putt has buckets of talent but his desire to compete was questioned at the Calder Cannons. Gus sometimes looks like a boy among men playing for Coburg and he is 200cms. Gourdis was overlooked by every club at the draft. Apparently his kicking is that suspect! Casserly was pick 40 and isn't even a coburg ones regulal due to constant injuries.

Secondly have you considered Hawthorn. On paper they have great depth. Max Bailey and Brent Renouf in the ruck. Both have raps. Beau Dowler and Mitch Thorpe can't even crack the team and were massively hyped key posi draft picks and have had some years in the system. Tuck looks to be a player, McGlynn only gets a game when their is an injury. Both tried players. They also have Kennedy and Morton and they look to be players but untried. I won't go through the rest of their list but we are not the only team with depth. The depth we do have at the moment is probably because we have the shortest injury list in the AFL at the moment. Something to consider.

On the next Geelong comment. When we start making prelims and score some gun father sons for low draft picks maybe...

Anyway stuff Geelong it should be about re-building our own culture of success not just emulating another club.

[Top4_Tiger]

How can you say Rance, Putt, Gourdis, Casserly, Conners, Gus are all quality youngsters.

I don't believe that is what he said at all.

[bigstyletiger]

I don't believe that is what he said at all.

That's exactly what Bojangles said. And here it is again for you...

No other side has the number of quality youngsters yet to even test the water, that equals upside...when we say where will the likes of Rance, Putt, Gourdis, Casserly, connors, Collins , Gus all be in another 12 months (Bojangles)

Conclusive?

[tigers_of_old_08]

Apparently we are using Geelong as a model, according to the 2007 annual report

[DanA]

That's exactly what Bojangles said. And here it is again for you...

No other side has the number of quality youngsters yet to even test the water, that equals upside...when we say where will the likes of Rance, Putt, Gourdis, Casserly, connors, Collins , Gus all be in another 12 months (Bojangles)

Conclusive?

Not conclusive at all. Top4 Tiger is right, that's not what he said.

You are missing the undertone of his post. His tongue was firmly planted in his cheek when he posted that.

[Bojangles17]

Can't agree. Two reasons - i'd be very wary of counting your chickens before they hatch. How can you say Rance, Putt, Gourdis, Casserly, Conners, Gus are all quality youngsters. They are largely untried. .

My short answer to that is , HOW can you argue they arent, we effectively havent broken them in yet, there is only upside to what they can contribute, thats different to a player like Raines that has been in the system for 3-4 years already...Hope thats cleared it up:thumbsu:

[Bojangles17]

Secondly have you considered Hawthorn. On paper they have great depth. Max Bailey and Brent Renouf in the ruck. Both have raps. Beau Dowler and Mitch Thorpe can't even crack the team and were massively hyped key posi draft picks and have had some years in the system. Tuck looks to be a player, McGlynn only gets a game when their is an injury. Both tried players. They also have Kennedy and Morton and they look to be players but untried. .

funny how you mention a host of players that collectively have done %^$# all as great depth, yet questions are raised over the names I posted for NO credible reason. Id like to understand the rationale behind that:eek:

[Big Red is back]

Given your two best players are just about gone in Richo and Brown I was thinking more like Fitzroy than Geelong

[Bojangles17]

Given your two best players are just about gone in Richo and Brown I

just about gone huh, one's one of the Brownlow favs , the other is on target to kick 40-50 goals , nice try boofhead:p

[davemills]

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Yep next geelong to bad by the time you reach that level richo would of retired!!!! Which prob means you will never reach that level! But as long as u keep staying positve! Thats all that matters!! HAHAHAHHA

Fotress Hawk. You come across as a fool, but at least a fool with a point.

The difference between our ball carriers and Geelongs is diminishing rapidly. That said, there is still a quality and hardness gap to be bridged. This is not insurmountable with our current list and juniors coming through.

The key posts tell a different story though. We simply don't compare at either end.

For example, our best defender, Thursfield, as good as he is, is no match for Scarlett for instance. The rest of our current senior defenders are between only slightly better than average or generally unacountable.

Forward wise, Richo is arguably as good or better than any Geelong forwards, but only if he continues to play in the 'New Richo' form he has. In addition, as mentioned, he probably has two good seasons left in the tank.

Riewoldt could become a star surprise. Edwards maybe as well. Most of the rest are just serviceable or rotation players. (E.g. Deledio. Not a star up forward, but serviceable and occasionally very good.)

Nor do we have the right cattle a number of years away ( Rance will be a standout, Putt could possibly develop in a big way.) Hughes, doubt he will make it, certainly will be no better than serviceable. Same goes for Schulz, Pattison etc.

Ruck stocks are dependent on one main man. Patto, is good around the ground and could be a great 10 year backup ruckman...at best. So to be at Geelongs level in a few years, with Simmo's age, we need a top quality tall young ruckman.

So our list will require the injection of serious accountable talent, at both ends before we are premiership material. Possible, just tricky.

Now, Fortress Hawk, may your team be the Port Adelaide of 2007.

[davemills]

Given your two best players are just about gone in Richo and Brown I was thinking more like Fitzroy than Geelong

At least we were not stupid enough to pick up Judd for the price you paid. He is already showing downhill sings at what? 24?

Oh, and btw, Foley is our best player. Browny is good. Richo has been great but who knows. Cotchin already looks better than your last 3 first round daft picks.

[Dimix1]

Given your two best players are just about gone in Richo and Brown I was thinking more like Fitzroy than Geelong

Haha just goes to show how a Carlton supporter dosen't know good from bad...

So your telling me your only calling Richo and Brown are our only good players??

Have you forgotten about the likes of Deledio, Foley, Cotchin (super star), Cog's (when he gets back) Just to name a few..

So go win Judd a wooden spoon then' he'll have everything in his trophey cabnit :D

[tigers_of_old_08]

delete threads mods.
Just asking for opposition fans to invade.

Not to mention that Geelong were around the top 4 in the couple of years before 2006, where we won the spoon last year

Good point - easily overlooked.

We are making some ground this season, we just need to convert this onto the score board.

[Wallaby]

My favorite 'How things can change' tale.

In 2006 we beat Geelong at Kardinia Park by 4 goals - with our young guys (Scarlett killed Richo all day, don't think Brown played).

If you had to bet which side would be next to win a premiership or a spoon, you would have done your dough - twice.