Our list next year????

[Kirk Hinrich #12]

Who will stay who will go. There are quiet a number of blokes on the chopping block and ready to retire IMO but who stays???

Wakelin - Ret
Burns - Ret
Holland - Delist
Bryan - Delist
Egan - Delist
Lonie - Delist
Toovey - Delist
Standley - ????
Macaffer - ????
Iles - ?????
Cox - ?????

Beside the top 2 the rest of these guys have had little or no impact of the Magpies #1 side this year. What to do with them are they sticking around who should we keep.

[hellfire]

It's far too early for that mate. This is a perfect example of why players are being banned from reading these sites. Players still have months to prove their worth.

However, with Wakelin and Burns most likely retiring, and possibly Holland (?), our list is going to be extremely young. Though the addition of Cousins may rectify the lack of experience. :D

[ralu]

[quote=Kirk Hinrich #12;11083643]Who will stay who will go. There are quiet a number of blokes on the chopping block and ready to retire IMO but who stays???

Wakelin - Ret
Burns - Ret
Holland - Delist
Bryan - Delist
Egan - Delist
Lonie - Delist
Toovey - Delist
Standley - ????
Macaffer - ????
Iles - ?????
Cox - ?????

wakes, burns & holland will retire.

keep bryan and lonie (should be in team imo)

Egan is a possible trade (3rd rounder maybe) as is cox & stanley(if we cant find trade, DELIST)

Toovey, macaffer should be booted out

I would keep iles and maybe cook.

[Winterstick]

Bryan??? so who's going to be the backup ruckman when one goes down

[SuperDude]

Bryan??? so who's going to be the backup ruckman when one goes down

Keefe if a Ruck is Injured?

[Chase the Ace]

Not sure if SSB will retire, he may give it another year.

Wakes, almost a certainty retire.

Because the draft will be compromised from 09 onwards we need to make some tough decisions about
Cook
Iles
Stanley
Toovey
Egan
Lonie
Holland

Bryan is probably safe simply because of his height.
MacCaffer will probably get his chance on the senior list

[The Dawes]

Keefe if a Ruck is Injured?

He's a scrawny kid who's been playing the game for 5 seconds - very much a long-term prospect.

We couldn't afford to delist a Ruckman without replacing him with another who can play pretty much straight away.

[Chase the Ace]

Keefe if a Ruck is Injured?

Wouldn't he need to be on our list first?

[hellfire]

Not sure if SSB will retire, he may give it another year.

Wakes, almost a certainty retire.

Because the draft will be compromised from 09 onwards we need to make some tough decisions about
Cook
Iles
Stanley
Toovey
Egan
Lonie
Holland

Bryan is probably safe simply because of his height.
MacCaffer will probably get his chance on the senior list

Given the proposed midfield quality of the first 20-25 picks in this years draft (speculation of course, but it's all we have to go by), our young midfielders - like those you mentioned - will have to really impress to keep their spot, because I'm sure the staff are aware of our deficiency in the midfield. Trading for higher picks may be on the cards. But as I said earlier, it's far too early for this discussion.

[pocketrocket#24]

Keefe if a Ruck is Injured?

lol.
maybe in 2011 mate.

[brspdt201013]

LONIE DELISTED
HOLLAND DELISTED
WAKELIN RETIRE
BURNS RETIRE
TOOVEY DELISTED
ISLES DELISTED
BRYAN DELISTED

There will be no trades for these players as no one will want them. We will promote Wellingham and Dyas to our senior list and put Presti and Rocca on the veterans list. This will mean we will have 5 spots for draft/trading. We will pick up Reed with our last pick in the draft and draft 2 more young players with our 2nd and 3rd round picks. This will leave us to trade our first round pick (this will be between pick 7 - 11) for a midfielder and also pick up another midfielder in the PSD.

[The Dawes]

LONIE DELISTED
HOLLAND DELISTED
WAKELIN RETIRE
BURNS RETIRE
TOOVEY DELISTED
ISLES DELISTED
BRYAN DELISTED

There will be no trades for these players as no one will want them. We will promote Wellingham and Dyas to our senior list and put Presti and Rocca on the veterans list. This will mean we will have 5 spots for draft/trading. We will pick up Reed with our last pick in the draft and draft 2 more young players with our 2nd and 3rd round picks. This will leave us to trade our first round pick (this will be between pick 7 - 11) for a midfielder and also pick up another midfielder in the PSD.

Have a feeling one of Rocca & Presti are already on the veterans list.

Far from certain that Scotty Burns will pull the pin either.

[Chase the Ace]

Given the proposed midfield quality of the first 20-25 picks in this years draft (speculation of course, but it's all we have to go by), our young midfielders - like those you mentioned - will have to really impress to keep their spot, because I'm sure the staff are aware of our deficiency in the midfield. Trading for higher picks may be on the cards. But as I said earlier, it's far too early for this discussion.

Heard varying things about the depth of this years draft.
It would be nice to pick up a couple of skilled pacey mids, but I guess every club wants that too.

Its never too early, the fact is we have to turn a certain percentage of our list over each year and I have no doubt some of the players mentioned will not be with us come October.

[Bloben]

Bryan will be kept as we need a 3rd ruckman. No other player can take on that role just yet.

A tough decision needs to be made on all of our next string mids such as Iles, Stanley and Cook. Egan will be shown the door however won't get anything much trade wise. Lonie will stay around as depth but I think Holland will retire as his achilles injury has really put an end to his effectiveness in the seniors.

Dyas will stay on the rookie list next year however Wellingham will come up.

[didaka]

Very early but you have to keep Bryan as was proved on the weekend. If Josh or Wood fall over Bryan is very helpful and important.

Stanley should also get at least another year. I think if Daniel Stanley was ever given a chance to play 4-5 games in a row at AFL level, get a real feel for the pace of the game and a little game time, he would shut a few mouths.

[OniAu]

if we delist bryan id be really dissapointed, unless we had a list of ruckman like lions did in 2007, then he needs to stay for nearly another two years even.

if fraser was out the next five weeks and bryan got injured, it really stuffs us up in the ruck department, even if we did have a young ruck on our list.

will be interesting to see the delistings come the end of the year, there is no clear cut ones. all of the ones thrown up as a maybe, still have a chance to prove themselves

[Timmy from Thomastown]

A tough decision needs to be made on all of our next string mids such as Iles, Stanley and Cook..

It should be a simple decision. Keep them all. Probably Toovey, too.

[Bloben]

It should be a simple decision. Keep them all. Probably Toovey, too.

IMO retirement chances are
Wakelin - 95%
Burns - 75%
Holland - 50%

If all three retire and we bring Wellingham up from the rookie list, we would only need to really delist one player as a minimum. You may be right not to drop any of those mentioned however if this draft is as strong as is predicted there may be a call to draft more than 3 and then use other fringe players as possible trade bait to get higher picks. Not that they would be worth that much on the trading table to be honest.

[Timmy from Thomastown]

IMO retirement chances are
Wakelin - 95%
Burns - 75%
Holland - 50%

If all three retire and we bring Wellingham up from the rookie list, we would only need to really delist one player as a minimum. .

Lonie and Egan are two that immediately come to mind. Then possibly Toovey next - perhaps to be rookied???. I wouldnt be surprised if Presti pulls the pin, either.

[The Royal Sampler]

I tend to think there won't be too many young kids to lose their spots, given the number of likely retirements and possible delistings/trades.

Wakelin and Prestigiacomo would both be unlikely to play on, IMHO. Wakes has made it clear he wants to, but he's been seriously struggling these last few weeks.

Egan is trade bait. Lonie should be if he has any value.

I think Burns and Rocca will stay on another year.

So given we have to take 3 National Draftees, and Scott Reed may be one of those, plus Wellingham will be elevated on the law of averages, that's a minimum of 4 spots we need to vacate.

I think we may only need to make decisions on two or three kids, not 6 or 7 as some have suggested here.

[magpies10]

I would think it Burnsy could keep his body injury free for the remainder of this year that he will go around again next year, his form has been terrific in the games he has played.

[Swanny36]

Very early but you have to keep Bryan as was proved on the weekend. If Josh or Wood fall over Bryan is very helpful and important.

Stanley should also get at least another year. I think if Daniel Stanley was ever given a chance to play 4-5 games in a row at AFL level, get a real feel for the pace of the game and a little game time, he would shut a few mouths.
agreed 100% i think he could be a classy player....he has got the skills and his body is balanced out nicely with strength,pace,endurance,skills theres nothing there thats overly exciting but he could be a scott burns type player in the future, nothing flashy just plain and simply is a footballer.....

[Kirk Hinrich #12]

IWakelin and Prestigiacomo would both be unlikely to play on, IMHO.

I cant see Presti hanging up the boots. Still have at least 2 more seasons in him

[The Royal Sampler]

I cant see Presti hanging up the boots. Still have at least 2 more seasons in him
It's possible, but he'll be 31 by the start of next season...

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I cant see Presti hanging up the boots. Still have at least 2 more seasons in him

He hasnt got this season in him so its not encouraging. The next few months will determine his future.

[rand corp]

I think we'll be forced to hang on to a few because of the likely retirements of Wakes, Burns, Dutchy (chronic achillies), Lonie (OP), Presti (foot).

On that basis Cox with his height a skill is probably safe for another year. Not so sure about Stanley, Cook (I'd almost cut them but doubt the club will and doubt we can afford to depth wise), Bryan is safe. Iles, McGaffer might struggle (I'd give Gaff another year but doubt he'll get one, I'd cut Iles but doubt we can afford to for depth reasons). Ego and Toovs I'd cut I'm afraid (both too frustrating for different reasons, one the heart of a lion and the skill of a roadside dentist with a meat cleaver. The other moves like a panther and shows the courage of a field mouse).

[Timmy from Thomastown]

McGaffer might struggle (I'd give Gaff another year but doubt he'll get one,.

His rookie contract expires. He needs to be promoted to the senior list or cut.

[The Royal Sampler]

His rookie contract expires. He needs to be promoted to the senior list or cut.
I believe that rule has been changed, and rookies can be retained for three years now. However it would probably be a mistake to retain MacAffer as a rookie for a third year, we ought to make a decision on him one way or the other.

Also, I forgot about Brodie Holland, another who's really struggling with injury and may not make it to 2009. Would be one less youngster who needs to be sacrificed.

[didaka]

Presti's body is letting him down and has for quite a while, he may well be gone. Hope not.

As for Holland, I really feel sorry for him. I've been told after having my achilles done that it takes 1 year to get back to A1, and Holland is only about 7 months post surgery I think.

Because his career is on the line maybe he has had to get out there a little early and is paying for it now because he isn't right.

[Palmer Stoat]

Provided his foot heals properly, I'd like Presti to get another year. We'll lose Wakelin at the end of this year, and I wouldn't be keen on losing another big-bodied defender at the same time. Take Nathan Brown out of the equation and how many of our other defenders are gonna be able to match up on bigger KFs? Thoolen is a loooong way off. Dawes has been tried down back, and might be an option. Reid might have CHB potential, but doesn't yet have the body to fill the position and is being groomed as a forward anyway. The others options are, IMO, flankers who can pinch-hit in a KP, but would struggle to match up on genuinely big opponents week in week out.

For that reason, Presti will hopefully go around again in 09.

[bradrowe#32]

I'd give Bryan a one year deal. Reassess the others in two months.

[typewriter]

wakes- retire
presti - if he cant get on the park i think hel call it quits (against my wishes)
Holland - retire/delist
Lonie - trade/delist we dont need 25+ year olds on our list just as depth players.
Toovey - trade/delist, just cant it at senior level
Egan - Trade, i like him but far to frustrating, we may be able to upgrade a mid 2nd round for a late first rounder.
1 to go of isles/cook/stanley/thoolen - gamble pick that doesnt seem to be paying off.
drop mcaffer as well
upgrade weelingham

this would give us 6 selections 1 being reed with our final pick if we can trade to upgrade to either 2 first/second rounders and a couple of 3rd rounders we could pick up some decent young talent seeing as though this draft seems like it has depth and could be one of the final drafts without concessions for the 17th and 18th team coming in.

and if worse comes to worse we could trade holland back to freo for pavlich or toovey/egan for warnock and their first pick (top 5) im sure theyd go 4 it....

[Bay Pie]

Stanley should also get at least another year. I think if Daniel Stanley was ever given a chance to play 4-5 games in a row at AFL level, get a real feel for the pace of the game and a little game time, he would shut a few mouths.

I agree. I am really struggling what our plans are for Stanley. He is an in and under mid in the VFL and has played several good games there but when he plays AFL he gets played on a HBF or HFF.

Are Mick and the coaches deliberately holding him back so his young frame doesn't get smashed from pillar to post in the AFL or do they have no faith in him in the middle at AFL level? Is it possible he just doesn't work hard enough on the training track and therefore wouldn't run out a game in the middle or even give enough minutes to make him worthwhile in the 22?

[smiddaz123]

Stanley is still young. Same age as Dawes I think.

[shawthing09]

Lonie- Trade / Delist
Wakes-retire
Holland - retire / delist
Toovey-Delist

They are the four no brainers IMO so with Wellingham coming up off the rookie list and the 3 mandatory picks we can make the bare minum off that alone, However we may want 3 picks plus Reed or even four picks plus Reed depending on draft strength.

Eags- Should be traded for a pick / in combo with a pick to upgrade it.

Presti-may or may not retire but IMO the decision should still totall be his at this stage

Iles Cook Stanley and Cox would be the next group that may go.

To be honest there are a lot of players getting close to retirement age, and a lot of dead wood to clear out on our list. So players like the above four will get every chance to develop on the list before being delisted.

I would also not be against shopping around both Rhyce Shaw and Ben Johnson. Not that I dislike or don't rate them simply because they may have some value and wouldn't hurt us eminesly to lose.

[Godfrey Jones]

some funny calls being made here.

what wont happen

lonie and holland will not be delisted, possibly traded but cant see that happening. good depth players, and we will really start to lack players in the older age group...I'd like to see lonie gone actually, but im just saying i cant see MM delisting these two. They may retire if they stop getting games at senior level

Toovey will not be delisted. why would he be?? thats just funny

iles/cook/stanley - probably all will stay

give them at LEAST another year for these youngsters to show something

macaffer - he may be delisted. not sure about him

[shawthing09]

some funny calls being made here.

what wont happen

lonie and holland will not be delisted, possibly traded but cant see that happening. good depth players, and we will really start to lack players in the older age group...I'd like to see lonie gone actually, but im just saying i cant see MM delisting these two. They may retire if they stop getting games at senior level

Toovey will not be delisted. why would he be?? thats just funny

iles/cook/stanley - probably all will stay

give them at LEAST another year for these youngsters to show something

macaffer - he may be delisted. not sure about him

AfL is cut throat with the size of lists there is not the room to keep "good depth players" who have no room for improvement and are still not best 22. Players like Lonie and Holland are dead wood, even your best sides like hawthorn and geelong, their depths come from good younger players pushing more so then average older players.

Toovey should be delisted as he is simply not AFL standard

Dutch and Lonie probably don't have much value on a trade market as they are not that good and hence should be cut. the player we replace them with may not be much better but at least there is room for that plyer to improve rather than a player that is proving to simply nt be up to it

[PieLebo87]

A bit early for this, but here we go:

Wakelin, Holland and Lonie to be delisted/retire. 3 spots for this 'midfield' draft.

Burns is a maybe for retiring, as he might be up for another 12 months, IF his body holds up for the remainder of this season.

Depending on how they go Egan, Toovey, Iles and MaCaffer would be in the firing line to being delisted.

Cox, Bryan and Stanley are safe. Cox can come back and bite us on the arse if delisted and picked up by another club, Bryan is our 3rd ruckman, and depth KP player, so is required and Stanley was, as has been repeated a million times on here, a bottom-aged draftee, so lets not jump the gun on our potential future midfielders!

Anyway, I think Stanley will have secured his spot on the list by year's end and if MM comes to his sense then so will have Cox.

[Godfrey Jones]

AfL is cut throat with the size of lists there is not the room to keep "good depth players" who have no room for improvement and are still not best 22. Players like Lonie and Holland are dead wood, even your best sides like hawthorn and geelong, their depths come from good younger players pushing more so then average older players.

Toovey should be delisted as he is simply not AFL standard

Dutch and Lonie probably don't have much value on a trade market as they are not that good and hence should be cut. the player we replace them with may not be much better but at least there is room for that plyer to improve rather than a player that is proving to simply nt be up to it

not disagreeing mate, i think holland lonie should both go and they cant offer any more...but im just saying what I think will happen...unfortunately dont see them being delisted at the end of this year, especially if we see 3 retirements.

and the thread is mostly funny because its round 8

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I believe that rule has been changed, and rookies can be retained for three years now. .

You sure about that?

[Invigoration]

A bit early for this, but here we go:

Wakelin, Holland and Lonie to be delisted/retire. 3 spots for this 'midfield' draft.

Burns is a maybe for retiring, as he might be up for another 12 months, IF his body holds up for the remainder of this season.

Depending on how they go Egan, Toovey, Iles and MaCaffer would be in the firing line to being delisted.

Cox, Bryan and Stanley are safe. Cox can come back and bite us on the arse if delisted and picked up by another club, Bryan is our 3rd ruckman, and depth KP player, so is required and Stanley was, as has been repeated a million times on here, a bottom-aged draftee, so lets not jump the gun on our potential future midfielders!

Anyway, I think Stanley will have secured his spot on the list by year's end and if MM comes to his sense then so will have Cox.

Probably one of the more realistic posts in this thread, people calling to cull 7-8 players are kidding themselves... It isn't going to happen.

We only tend to use 5 picks in the draft which I believe will come from;
Wakelin -Retired

Holland - Retire (I personally think this is nearly a certainty, he was only held onto this year in the hope he would get healthy. It hasn't happened and isn't going to happen. Will be a repeat of the Licuria case, he will want to play on, but the club will say there is no opportunities for him)

Presti - Maybe retire, purely dependent on how his body goes for the rest of the year. If he gets back playing he will stay, if not, he'll retire.

Lonie - I personally don't think he will go, will be held onto as depth. We will have a very young list come next year, is not to bad as a fall back player.

Egan - I think he is in big trouble, but I'm doubtful the club will bite the bullet. I think he might get thrown into the ring for a trade, and if there are no bites, he'll stay around. I'm starting to think though if he hasn't found his heart for the game yet, it isn't going to happen.

Toovey - If MM didn't love him, I think he would get cut... I think he is up there with Egan as most likely to go.

They are the main group, and I think Iles is just tagging off the back of this group. Clearly the likes of Cook, Wellingham and Stanley are getting favoured before him, the rest of the year will define him I think. I don't mind him, and wouldn't be to phased if we held onto him, I just think he is an extremely vanilla type... Very much is the Davies mold

For me that is enough picks right there. I'd like to hold on to McAffer, he has a fair bit of potential IMO. If you can't hold rookies for 3 years at TRS implied then he will be dropped and re-rookied I think, no harm in that either.

There is absolutely no chance Bryan will go, Stanley was bottom age and is another who definitely won't be cut. I think Cook is safe now too.
Coxy won't get delisted either, there is heaps there to work with with Coxy.

There is no use running out to try and stock up in this draft because of the GC team coming in, in 2009.
Unless you can stock up with high draft picks (below 25), then there is no point replacing the likes of Cook and Cox, who were both picks around 20 (?), but now have 2-3 years experience under there belts, for kids in this draft that are going to be far more risky.
Turnovering players for the point of it achieves nothing. We would be stocking up on kids between the 25 - 70 draft pick range, kids that were in the exact same spots Cook, Iles and Cox were... Except they were there 3 years ago, and are now far more conditioned, experienced and trained.

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Invigorating post. I've been saying for ages that most of our younger players will be retained. Even Toovey, imo.

You've overlooked Burns as well. I cant see him going on another year. And additionally, it wouldnt shock me if Anthony Rocca started looking over the ocean at a different career. Unlikely, but who knows.

[The Rusler]

IMO the most likely scenario..

Rocca will play on, so will Burns..
Wakelin(1), Presti(2) will retire.
Lonie will stay on the list, Holland(3) will be delisted.

Tooves should be cut but won't as MM loves him, Iles (4) will be cut, as will Egan (5) (is he tradeable?). We have no extractors so Stanners will stay on and Cook played decently when elevated so should get another go.

Wellingham promoted (back to 4) and Scott Reed should be added to the list (3). That leaves 3 spots in the draft which should all be used on mids IMO (hopefully we get Cuzzy but I'm not sure we will).

P.s. Smokey.. Don't be surprised if Benny Johnson is traded if his form doesn't improve dramatically.

EDIT: Bear will be retained, he just played one of his best games for the club and we have no backup ruckman. Fraser is good but certainely no superstar and there are still question marks about Wood so we need to keep him.

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Reed can go onto the rookie list, I believe. No need to waste a senior spot on him.

[The Rusler]

Fair enough, wasn't aware of that..
MacCaffer doesn't look like he's gonna be anything and if Wellingham is promoted, might be a chance for us to maximise the level of young talent on our list before the system is corrupted by the addition of the new teams.

Anyone know if Reed's any good? Seen him play?

[Chase the Ace]

Reed can go onto the rookie list, I believe. No need to waste a senior spot on him.

Not sure about that, I thought he becomes our last pick in the November draft

[The Royal Sampler]

He can be placed on the rookie list if he agrees to do so. If he doesn't agree, he can nominate for the National Draft and it's open slather.

[titan85]

Bryan- kept (depth)
Burns- stays (will miss the majority of his final season-bodys letting him down in a big way. ala N.Buckley's last season)
Cook-kept
Cox- kept (surely the safest of those discussed as potential delistings?? I like him alot)
Egan- gone
Holland- retires
Iiles- gone
Lonie- kept (depth)
Presti- Retires (grossly underated over the last 5-8 seasons)
Rocca- stays (1 more time)
Stanley- gone (great vfl player)
Toovey- gone (see stanners)
Wakelin- Retires (wink wink)
__________________________
Casey leigh- doesnt look much- gone?
Macaffer- will get a senior gig
Welli- seniors
Dyas- rookie list again.

7 (+1r), 2 (+S.Reed) up. Giving us 4 senior slots, and 3 on the rookie list.

Needs- a scotty burns clone
- Midfield depth (Macarthy, Barham look promising)
- Developing ruckman on the RL to superseed Bear in '10.
- Depth in key defense (-wakes, presti. max will be on the outer by the end of next season. JA's going to be a star).

Thoughts??

[The Royal Sampler]

I'd get rid of Lonie and likely say goodbye to MacAffer, keep Iles and Stanley, and retain Casey-Leigh on the rookie list. I doubt we need to vacate 7 senior list spots, TBH.

[Invigoration]

Invigorating post. I've been saying for ages that most of our younger players will be retained. Even Toovey, imo.

You've overlooked Burns as well. I cant see him going on another year. And additionally, it wouldnt shock me if Anthony Rocca started looking over the ocean at a different career. Unlikely, but who knows.

I kept Burnsy out, just my opinion, but I think (providing he doesn't collapse this year) then he will definitely stay on.

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I'd get rid of Lonie and likely say goodbye to MacAffer, keep Iles and Stanley, and retain Casey-Leigh on the rookie list. I doubt we need to vacate 7 senior list spots, TBH.

Casey-Leigh will certainly be retained. It would be stupid to not give any kid a decent go. In fact are you even allowed to delist rookies after one year?

McAffer's only hope of retention is if the rookie rules allow a third year.

[The Dawes]

If Lonie can't get a game in the next few weeks he's gone I'm afraid - no point keeping a bloke on the list who is effectively a VFL player.
Similar thoughts on Iles - Wellingham has gone past him and his future must be shaky.

Best thing though, is that everyone on the list has enough time remaining this year to show their worth.

[Invigoration]

Out of curiosity I'd like to hear how many times the people calling for the culling of Stanley (bottom age), Iles and especially MacAffer, have actually seen this guys play? Honestly...?

And outside of having watched them twice this year on the TV, one of which included a game that was played in pathetic conditions. But I think it would be safe to say the majority would have never even been in a VFL game we've played in, instead the just assume that because Iles, Stanley and Cook aren't walk up starters, then the should just get cut and we should bring in 5 new, untried kids... Who if in 3 years are in the same position as Stanley/Cook/Iles, then the same sort of people are calling to cut these guys and bring in a new group.
I'd hate to think where the likes of Swan, Heath Shaw and Leon Davis would be with the haste some people on these boards have to cut players that haven't been truly given a chance to prove themselves...

[Invigoration]

Casey-Leigh will certainly be retained. It would be stupid to not give any kid a decent go. In fact are you even allowed to delist rookies after one year?

McAffer's only hope of retention is if the rookie rules allow a third year.

I personally think he will be dropped and re-rookied if there is no third year, but that is only my thoughts after what I've seen of him and how he is used in the VFL.
I think they are working hard to develop him and see a fair bit of potential with him, but I could easily be wrong... Rookies are quite dispensable, so it wouldn't surprise me if he went.

[Chase the Ace]

Has anyone got a link to this "3 Year Rookie Rule"?