Anthony Rocca!!

[Swanny36]

Kudos to Pebs tonight as he took scarlett away from every contest Fantastic game.....great game by every collingwood player....but just thought i would mention the efforts of Big Ant......he'll be sore tomorrow he ran himself into the ground tonight and sacrificed his own game to help the team.....plus he also kicked a goal and took 9 marks....terrific stuff pebs keep it up...:thumbsu:

[Optimax]

Beat scarlett all ends up, made the ugly dick play as bad as he looks.

Thank you geelong advertiser, you helped us a mountain, scarlett i think it was three times holding the ball? ugly mofo.

Well done ant, awesoem game when needed

[GoalSneak07]

Didn't see no cat dance from Scarlett tonight (referring to his antics after last seasons prelim loss to the cats) , Rocca by baby smashed him, ran him off his feet!

GO PIES!!!!

[Optimax]

Didn't see no cat dance from Scarlett tonight (referring to his antics after last seasons prelim loss to the cats) , Rocca by baby smashed him, ran him off his feet!

GO PIES!!!!
i was given it to him all night as well, will never forget that humble in victory not scarletts go it seems.

So happy the game started and ended with that little douche being pinged for holding it.

Im now going to go out and celebrate this game with some bruskies rofl

[colin_wood]

Cant believe that they fell for that one.....Rocca takes Scarlett up the ground for the whole game. He could not play his normal attacking backman role.

[Swanny36]

Cant believe that they fell for that one.....Rocca takes Scarlett up the ground for the whole game. He could not play his normal attacking backman role.
lmao, now that you mention it.... it is pretty simple isnt it.....hahaha why wouldnt they have just had rocca run around free up the wings and let scarlett stay off him until rocca got with in scoring range and then run back to him...dumbass'

[stui magpie]

Whoops. Scarlett just got exposed, can't beat a good player one on one without support from fellow backs in thelast line and midfield pressure.

Pleasant dreams scarlo. being tackeld and giving away a goal after the siren was symbolic and I loved it.:thumbsu:

[Shoulz]

GEE = OWND

Too good pies! :thumbsu:

Wd Pebs

[CENTERMAN]

Cant believe that they fell for that one.....Rocca takes Scarlett up the ground for the whole game. He could not play his normal attacking backman role.

Agree, why didn't they put him back on Cloke as Cloke turned out to be the handful anyway.

[Gymnorhina tibic]

Rocca was important on so many levels tonight and if I thought anyone cared about my opinions I would write a thousand words why, won't feature in the votes come Brownlow night but was a key to the win.

[BigPieSky]

Rocca-bye Baby on the tree top........... turned Scarlet over and used him as a mop !
Sorry guys, maybe its tacky but I just got back from the game and Im loaded on the go-go juice.

[Rohan25]

I took great pleasure in giving Scarlett the bronx cheer when he got a touch late in the match. 'Twas a great night.

[Visions]

By the 4th quarter me and a few of the guys in the AFL members were proclaiming Rocca the "New Richo" due to his wing play.

[didaka]

The Pendlebury tackle early in the first set the standard for the night.

Scarlett went into his shell and when it got tuff, he went missing, and wasn't alone.

[hellfire]

The first time the ball went to Rocca, the ball went to ground, Scarlett scooped it up and burst out of the 50 through the corridor, Pendles was a step behind him, and brought him to ground with a ferocious tackle... From that moment, I thought we were going to win. I have no idea why, but I thought that if we can stop Scarlett's rebound we would win. Rocca was vital tonight, despite not troubling the scoreboard too much.

[SIDE BY SIDE]

It just proves he doesn't have to kick a bag of goals each week to play well. If he can do what he did last night all the time I'm happy with him.

[andyyoa]

You can't tell me that Rocca did his job just because he took scarlette out of the game.. I bet Jonathan Brown Doesn't wonder into a deep forward pocket to take scarlette out of the game. Jonathan Brown pushes hard to every contest and tries to smash him in the contest..
Rocca needs to go back to the 2's and kick some bags to get his confidence up. He is a massive importance to out side, and if we make finals he needs to be firing to go..
I'm not bagging the guy, all i am saying is that he can be the difference to us winning and losing when he is taking big marks and hicking goals. He just seems a bit low on confidence..

[Optimax]

lmao, now that you mention it.... it is pretty simple isnt it.....hahaha why wouldnt they have just had rocca run around free up the wings and let scarlett stay off him until rocca got with in scoring range and then run back to him...dumbass'

they did rocca presided to outmark thre cats on the wing and then drill the ball 50 meteres to didak who out marked.............scarlett. They also tried scarlett on trav who then played highjer up with trav punishing him. so he was comprehensively beaten

You can't tell me that Rocca did his job just because he took scarlette out of the game.. I bet Jonathan Brown Doesn't wonder into a deep forward pocket to take scarlette out of the game. Jonathan Brown pushes hard to every contest and tries to smash him in the contest..
Rocca needs to go back to the 2's and kick some bags to get his confidence up. He is a massive importance to out side, and if we make finals he needs to be firing to go..
I'm not bagging the guy, all i am saying is that he can be the difference to us winning and losing when he is taking big marks and hicking goals. He just seems a bit low on confidence..
He did though, he had ten touches 9 marks most of which were contested, kicked 1 should of had two as he gave one off to bryan.

He also ran hrad, presented and tackled/attacked geelong players feroursciously.

so yeah he played well very well

[Brahma Bull]

Rocca only has to go back in the 2s if he doesnt help out the team in any way. Even though he didn't kick a bag- he played very well up the ground, took plenty of marks, made scarlett follow him and had 4 scoring assists.

Well done to the Pebbles!

I wonder what Rocca is going to do with Glass next week.

[Optimax]

Rocca only has to go back in the 2s if he doesnt help out the team in any way. Even though he didn't kick a bag- he played very well up the ground, took plenty of marks, made scarlett follow him and had 4 scoring assists.

Well done to the Pebbles!

I wonder what Rocca is going to do with Glass next week.
Glass hasnt been in great form, so rocca may well kick 3 on him, again but another effort like last night then i will be happy

[Kirby]

It's a team game and Rocca played a fantastic game for the team.

I must point out that I suggested he be played as a decoy during the week leading up to the game and pull Scarlett up the wings. I'm glad MM had the same idea. :D

[popathon]

Whoops. Scarlett just got exposed, can't beat a good player one on one without support from fellow backs in thelast line and midfield pressure.

Pleasant dreams scarlo. being tackeld and giving away a goal after the siren was symbolic and I loved it.:thumbsu:

Stupid comment, he's one of if not the best KPB in the league. He had an off night, as did every Geelong player, true some of this would've been because of our inside 50 pressure but to say he's been found out is stupid.
Very good game by the pies, back to our best.

[swiftdog]

Stupid comment, he's one of if not the best KPB in the league. He had an off night, as did every Geelong player, true some of this would've been because of our inside 50 pressure but to say he's been found out is stupid.
Very good game by the pies, back to our best.

No they didn't. We've heard that the last 4 times we've played them. it is pretty much impossible that we happen to play them 4 times in a row on an off game.

[ALM_30]

Please people, Rocca played his role and did it well but Scarlett held our most dangerous KPF to 1 goal in an 86 point drubbing. If you were the Cats you'd take that anyday. Rocca ran up to the wings all night, which is good for the team but it's not like he beat Scarlett.

He took a couple of good one on one grabs, but Scarlett beat him one on one a number of times also. The actual match- up near goal where it matters was pretty even.

Scarlett had an off night in terms of giving away frees, but at least he was trying to attack and create something, wasn't his fault the Pies pressure was so good and the Cats weren't giving him an option. Any other FB would have conceded 4-5 considering the Pies plethora of easy ball into the forward line. A couple of the frees against him were rediculous too, like that last one where he picked it up and got tackled immediately, and the 50 to Davis. Leon played it for all it was worth and Scarlett barely touched him, in fact Leon fell over when Scarlett wasn't even touching him anymore.

The papers said Rocca "emphatically answered his critics." Wrong. He played a great team game, but playing that role is easy and in an 86 point win it can look pretty flattering. If Rocca did the exact same thing last night and Geelong won they'd be saying Scarlett beat him.

Good on Rocca for last night, but now for some consistency hey?

[spartan-magpie]

rocca did what was asked of him.. provide a contest..check... take marks.. check...
create space for others in the forward line .. check..
MAKE SCARLETT look like a lost ferrett.. CHECK... well done pebs...
lets see if u can kick a bag this week...

[ALM_30]

rocca did what was asked of him.. provide a contest..check... take marks.. check...
create space for others in the forward line .. check..
MAKE SCARLETT look like a lost ferrett.. CHECK... well done pebs...
lets see if u can kick a bag this week...

Mate teams do the exact same thing to Scarlett every week, trying to drag him well up field. It was made to look exceptionally effective last night because we just dominated, and were gifted so much easy movement through the midfield and off half back.

As I said Rocca's role is an easy one to play when you win big, and Scarlett looked like a lost ferrett as did every Geelong player, but at least Scarlett was trying to run and create and give some inspiration, unlike his teammates.

Rocca did what he was asked, and did it well, but people just spraying Scarlett as crap and getting comprehensively beaten are off the mark.

[didaka]

Half the time I saw Anthony he was around the midfield or even higher, pretty hard to kick goals up there even for Anthony. And that was the plan, work Scarlett up the ground so they can't set up deep in defense and break us apart.

He played a far superior game if you were at the ground to what he did if you watched it on TV.

I might even give him votes :p

[ALM_30]

Half the time I saw Anthony he was around the midfield or even higher, pretty hard to kick goals up there even for Anthony. And that was the plan, work Scarlett up the ground so they can't set up deep in defense and break us apart.

He played a far superior game if you were at the ground to what he did if you watched it on TV.

I might even give him votes :p

I was at the game, I sat bottom deck, section M21, row HH, seat 4. Basically on the HHF at the end with the blue 50m line.

Roc did what was asked, but if people reckon that was the difference in the game they are kidding themselves, every team drags Scarlett up field and he still cuts them up, last night Geelong were woeful so his creative capabilities were hampered severely.

[popathon]

No they didn't. We've heard that the last 4 times we've played them. it is pretty much impossible that we happen to play them 4 times in a row on an off game.

We pressure them better than any team, there's no doubt about that. But Geelong have been off for about a month now, the only difference is we didn't let them get back into it.

[didaka]

I was at the game, I sat bottom deck, section M21, row HH, seat 4. Basically on the HHF at the end with the blue 50m line.

Roc did what was asked, but if people reckon that was the difference in the game they are kidding themselves, every team drags Scarlett up field and he still cuts them up, last night Geelong were woeful so his creative capabilities were hampered severely.

Good luck to ya, I was there also.

Rocca was given a job, he had the acid put on him during the week, and he came out and did exactly what would have been asked of him, and Scarlett didn't cut him up like he does others.

Scarlett went into his shell very early.

You're right, he wasn't the difference, but he played his role and did it well and that's all you can do whether we won by 86 points or not so people will give credit where credit is due, and it is due after last nights performance, so let them give it. He cops too much of a flogging from other outlets anyway so for this week let it be positive.

[spartan-magpie]

i never said rocca was the difference.. i only said he did his part.. As with most teams if the individual does their part part the team reaps the rewards.. rocca along with most of the boys did their part last night... ur obviously not roccas biggest fan.. but as mick said he did what was asked of him.. good result...

[didaka]

His stats weren't ordinary either. He took around 9-10 marks on the night and a few contested, so he was there wasn't he.

[ALM_30]

Yeah, I understand what you boys are saying.

Just these select few imbosiles, who obviously hate Scarlett, saying stuff like "Scarlett was exposed" or "Rocca beat him all hands up" is ludicrous.

FB's are unfortunately the ones made to look bad by their teams horrendousness, and considering how woeful the Cats were last night Scarlett on Rocca did a fair job. As I said any other FB would have given up 4-5 to Big Ant the way the Pies were playing.

He gave away some frees, some very, very dubious, because he was attempting to create some movement and lift his side, just like he did early in the HOF Match. Not his fault the Cats did him no favours. And he did not attack as hard last night because obviously we were all over them, so he didn't have the luxury and the faith in his boys to win the ball.

And the bronx jeers was pathetic. The guy is a FB, and he's getting jeers because he isn't touching the ball. :rolleyes: Gee, shows how bloody good he must be, he gives up 1 goal and has 16 touches from FB in a massacre and still cops the bronxies from the crowd. That was pretty laughable I thought.

Scarlett was far, far away from Geelong's worst last night.

[Big Bucks]

Yeah, I understand what you boys are saying.

Just these select few imbosiles, who obviously hate Scarlett, saying stuff like "Scarlett was exposed" or "Rocca beat him all hands up" is ludicrous.

FB's are unfortunately the ones made to look bad by their teams horrendousness, and considering how woeful the Cats were last night Scarlett on Rocca did a fair job. As I said any other FB would have given up 4-5 to Big Ant the way the Pies were playing.

He gave away some frees, some very, very dubious, because he was attempting to create some movement and lift his side, just like he did early in the HOF Match. Not his fault the Cats did him no favours. And he did not attack as hard last night because obviously we were all over them, so he didn't have the luxury and the faith in his boys to win the ball.

And the bronx jeers was pathetic. The guy is a FB, and he's getting jeers because he isn't touching the ball. :rolleyes: Gee, shows how bloody good he must be, he gives up 1 goal and has 16 touches from FB in a massacre and still cops the bronxies from the crowd. That was pretty laughable I thought.

Scarlett was far, far away from Geelong's worst last night.

Chill out, it,s a football match not The Australian Opera.FFS.
Absolutely loved it when they gave him the bronx cheers, Scarlett is a tosser(great footballer) of the highest order
:eek:

[ALM_30]

Chill out, it,s a football match not The Australian Opera.FFS.
Absolutely loved it when they gave him the bronx cheers, Scarlett is a tosser(great footballer) of the highest order
:eek:

Well it's the first and only time we'll hear a FB FFS :D get bronx jeers.

Save them for when they are warranted.

[Big Bucks]

Well it's the first and only time we'll hear a FB FFS :D get bronx jeers.

Save them for when they are warranted.

Who are you ! the ____ing warranted police.
I`ll bronx when i like to whom i want.

[ALM_30]

Who are you ! the ____ing warranted police.
I`ll bronx when i like to whom i want.

Mate do what you like, it was just laughable that the lesser educated of our faithful would embark on such a rediculous endeavour as jeering an opposing FB for no reason :rolleyes: Just gave strength to how good Scarlett is that last night's game was worthy of such treatment.

[Big Bucks]

Mate do what you like, it was just laughable that the lesser educated of our faithful would embark on such a rediculous endeavour as jeering an opposing FB for no reason :rolleyes: Just gave strength to how good Scarlett is that last night's game was worthy of such treatment.

Hahaha, put yourself in that group,you meet the standard.
:thumbsu:

[Daicos Mullets]

Rocca played some very smart footy last night, by drawing Scarlett out of the action. He also took some very good pack marks, set up a few goals, kicked one himself, provided a contest each time for the crumbers & ran hard. A very good game by big Anthony. :) :thumbsu:

[ALM_30]

Hahaha, put yourself in that group,you meet the standard.
:thumbsu:

Sorry mate I'll never be in the group that lowers itself to such petty crap. Insulting a champion when it's completely unnecessary.

[Subtemperate]

Sorry mate I'll never be in the group that lowers itself to such petty crap. Insulting a champion when it's completely unnecessary.

Why? If I was that player I would take it as a compliment. They don't bronx cheer crap players do they?

[Pie eyed]

I was at the game, I sat bottom deck, section M21, row HH, seat 4. Basically on the HHF at the end with the blue 50m line.

Roc did what was asked, but if people reckon that was the difference in the game they are kidding themselves, every team drags Scarlett up field and he still cuts them up, last night Geelong were woeful so his creative capabilities were hampered severely.

I think you are taking a lot away from Collingwood with a statement like that.
We were better.
You make it sound like we played a mob of geriatrics.

[Optimax]

Mate do what you like, it was just laughable that the lesser educated of our faithful would embark on such a rediculous endeavour as jeering an opposing FB for no reason :rolleyes: Just gave strength to how good Scarlett is that last night's game was worthy of such treatment.
scarlett rubbed our noses in the shit after we lost to them in the prelim, we then had to deal with the rocca is his bunny bull shit.

Of course we were going to jeer him, he is a dicksnap and deserved all eh got last night, didnt like it dont join in. But rocca beat him scarlett was largely in effective rocca had 9 marks kicked 1 set up at least 3 more like 4, so of course rocca won.

[ALM_30]

I think you are taking a lot away from Collingwood with a statement like that.
We were better.
You make it sound like we played a mob of geriatrics.

I never at all intended to downplay Collingwood. Last night was the best I've seen us play almost ever, and we forced Geelong to play bad football. But the fact is, they were way of the mark from the get go, not running, making errors under no pressure, looking disinterested, they weren't the Geelong we know obviously. But we were sensational, no doubt, and I couldn't be prouder of what we achieved. 86 points doesn't just happen.

scarlett rubbed our noses in the shit after we lost to them in the prelim, we then had to deal with the rocca is his bunny bull shit.

Of course we were going to jeer him, he is a dicksnap and deserved all eh got last night, didnt like it dont join in. But rocca beat him scarlett was largely in effective rocca had 9 marks kicked 1 set up at least 3 more like 4, so of course rocca won.

Mate, it isn't Scarlett writing all that "Rocca is Scarlett's Bunny" crap, it's those nomad bogans at the Geelong Advertiser who because everything in that propoganda rag is based on Geelong they've got to come up with something. And so he acted like a prick after the prelim, so what mate, he's just won his way into GF and decided to give something back to the cheersquad who would have been hanging it on him down there all night.

Also, Rocca didn't beat Scarlett at all. Rocca played his part magnificently for the team, which was to sacrifice his influence in order to curb Scarlett. Thankfully, the Pies dominated so Rocca was able to get his hands on some ball, but 1 goal in an 86 point massacre was hardly "beating" him. Rocca didn't assist in 3 goals either, he had 4 score assists, 1 was a goal, the others were points.

As well as he accomlished his team role yesterday, I remain sceptical of Anthony. He played a role that is an easy one to play when you are winning and even more so when winning easy. It can look flattering. If he can maintain such discipline and form consistently and particularly when the going gets tough, then we'll give him kudos.

[Optimax]

I will never forget the night of the prelim abd scarlett caring on like a knob head, he firmly believs he is the best player ever.

Scarlo can go ____ himself, and if its so easy to lead scarlett from the ball and curb his influence why is it that rocca was the first to do it convincly in 2 years?

Give the big man some credit in the matches he has been fit he has been in fine form, (actually set up two goals one bryan and one didak the otehr two were points).

[ALM_30]

I will never forget the night of the prelim abd scarlett caring on like a knob head, he firmly believs he is the best player ever.

Scarlo can go ____ himself, and if its so easy to lead scarlett from the ball and curb his influence why is it that rocca was the first to do it convincly in 2 years?

Give the big man some credit in the matches he has been fit he has been in fine form, (actually set up two goals one bryan and one didak the otehr two were points).

Mate please you are off the mark with a couple of your points.

Scarlett is the absolute harshest critic on himself, he'd be the last person to strut around as if he was the best ever. He is an EXTREMELY passionate and one- eyed Geelong man, and takes immense pride in the success of his team, that is what influenced his antics last season. He goes out and does his job, he doesn't care what people think of him, and once the job is done he takes his mind off the game. Anyone who has had sustained interest in him as a player as I have would know that.

Last night wasn't a matter of Rocca curbing Scarlett's influence, more the Collingwood team, mate we ABSOLUTELY DOMINATED, do you think an opposing FB is going to be afforded his usual luxury and usual effectiveness with the ball when his team is performing so horribly? Don't think so. Scarlett couldn't afford to charge off, as if he did Rocca would have found himself open all night. Rocca leading up had little to do with it as everyone tried to do that against Scarlett.

Scarlett still had 16 touches (3 inside 50's), it's not like he was taken out of it. Granted he was not as effective, but he isn't going to be when his teammates who he looks to pass to are standing around like stunned mullets and getting destroyed at every single contest.

[Jabso]

Rocca played Scarlett perfectly. Not having Scarlett peel off Rocca in the backline to help out in marking contests and rebounding probably paid off to the extent of at least 5 goals. Scarlett's possessions were rendered useless I'd rather him following Rocca around the wings and getting a few inside 50s himself rather than repelling our attacks anyday of the week.

[ALM_30]

Rocca played Scarlett perfectly. Not having Scarlett peel off Rocca in the backline to help out in marking contests and rebounding probably paid off to the extent of at least 5 goals. Scarlett's possessions were rendered useless I'd rather him following Rocca around the wings and getting a few inside 50s himself rather than repelling our attacks anyday of the week.

Exactly right but Rocca didn't play him perfectly, Malthouse did.

It was great coaching and Rocca was able to implement it, granted it was with the help of his team's dominance however. And his touches were rendered useless because our players up field did a great job ensuring they couldn't find options out of defence.

[Jabso]

Exactly right but Rocca didn't play him perfectly, Malthouse did.

It was great coaching and Rocca was able to implement it, granted it was with the help of his team's dominance however. And his touches were rendered useless because our players up field did a great job ensuring they couldn't find options out of defence.

This actually reminds me of the Simpsons episode "Homer at the bat"
Burns: hey you strawberry, hit a home run!
*Strawberry hits a home run*
Burns *proudly*: I told him to do that.

You give Malthouse a bit too much credit. It was a great plan, but at the end of the day it's up to the player to implement it. Identifying how to beat someone is easier than actually doing it. Besides taking Scarlett out of the game he also played a very solid game himself anyway.

[ALM_30]

This actually reminds me of the Simpsons episode "Homer at the bat"
Burns: hey you strawberry, hit a home run!
*Strawberry hits a home run*
Burns *proudly*: I told him to do that.

You give Malthouse a bit too much credit. It was a great plan, but at the end of the day it's up to the player to implement it. Identifying how to beat someone is easier than actually doing it. Besides taking Scarlett out of the game he also played a very solid game himself anyway.

It's easy to implement when you are winning big, and looks extremely effective.

Like I said, I'm a big sceptic of Rocca, and I suppose what I'm pushing is for him to continue to do it when the pressure is on and the going is a bit tougher.

I hope that he can for the sake of our team.

[Jabso]

It's easy to implement when you are winning big, and looks extremely effective.

Like I said, I'm a big sceptic of Rocca, and I suppose what I'm pushing is for him to continue to do it when the pressure is on and the going is a bit tougher.

I hope that he can for the sake of our team.

It's a chicken/egg thing.

Did we win big because our players were able to implement the gameplan(s) Malthouse had in place or because we were winning big it was easier to implement these strategies. I suggest Rocca was a big part of why we were able to win big.

[Snag Breac]

Who is this Scarlett apologist - Alm 30? Such supportive passion for an opposition player. :cool: Scarlett was irrelvant, and the Pies were terrific - to a man. Just let's celebrate that for once.:thumbsu:

[ALM_30]

Who is this Scarlett apologist - Alm 30? Such supportive passion for an opposition player. :cool: Scarlett was irrelvant, and the Pies were terrific - to a man. Just let's celebrate that for once.:thumbsu:

Scarlett's a champ, and as a player he is a favourite. I'm just defending him from some of the morons at the start of the thread who were obviously still caught up in some of the raw emotion of the game last night. I know 99% of Pies fans dislike him greatly, and will take any opportunity to hang it on him. I'm not one of them and I thought I'd just step in and defend a true star. That's all.

I've said on numerous occassions Collingwood were absolutely sensational, best I've seen them play almost ever and I am so f--cking proud as punch of what they did last night.

Anyway, I've said my piece on these matters.

[Snag Breac]

Scarlett's a champ, and as a player he is a favourite. I'm just defending him from some of the morons at the start of the thread who were obviously still caught up in some of the raw emotion of the game last night. I know 99% of Pies fans dislike him greatly, and will take any opportunity to hang it on him. I'm not one of them and I thought I'd just step in and defend a true star. That's all.

I've said on numerous occassions Collingwood were absolutely sensational, best I've seen them play almost ever and I am so f--cking proud as punch of what they did last night.

Anyway, I've said my piece on these matters.

I think Pies barrackers were particularly offended by the bunny-ears incident. It was uncalled for and showed disrespect for a Collingwood stalwart. I pointed out that it wasn't the writer's fault - it was the ed or sub-ed who was responsible for the photo etc. I think Scarlett just got associated with it, and maybe his antics after the prelim final didn't help his cause. It was a great result - hubris properly answered, and Rocca lives to fly another day.:thumbsu:

[Pie eyed]

I think the point of this thread has been lost.

Rocca, either played well enough to implement Micks plan or took great advantage of the plan that Mick implemented?

Just sounds like Rocca had a very good game in which his goal kicking was not the measuring stick. A new, possibly longer term, role for the big man.
I think you will find that a lot of our boys excelled in unusual roles last night and that is definitely down to Micks strategies and the players playing their part in it to the letter.
I would not say 99% of Pies poster hate Scarlett. Quite the opposite more like 1%.
But, having said that, when a player gets a bit cocky on field and displays it openly to a Collingwood crowd they should expect to get some flack when they fail to deliver...Scarlett would admit that Rocca had the best of him and he would have sucked up a few bronx cheers like a pro.

He does, however have ridiculous, "Jack Nicholson" eyebrows and could easily play the Joker in the next Batman movie. LOL.
I think Pebbles should mention this to him personally next meeting on field.

[ALM_30]

I think the point of this thread has been lost.

Rocca, either played well enough to implement Micks plan or took great advantage of the plan that Mick implemented?

Just sounds like Rocca had a very good game in which his goal kicking was not the measuring stick. A new, possibly longer term, role for the big man.
I think you will find that a lot of our boys excelled in unusual roles last night and that is definitely down to Micks strategies and the players playing their part in it to the letter.
I would not say 99% of Pies poster hate Scarlett. Quite the opposite more like 1%.
But, having said that, when a player gets a bit cocky on field and displays it openly to a Collingwood crowd they should expect to get some flack when they fail to deliver...Scarlett would admit that Rocca had the best of him and he would have sucked up a few bronx cheers like a pro.

He does, however have ridiculous, "Jack Nicholson" eyebrows and could easily play the Joker in the next Batman movie. LOL.
I think Pebbles should mention this to him personally next meeting on field.

I'm just going by personal experience on that 99% claim. I don't know a Pies fan that likes him on this forum and personally.

"Fail to deliver" is harsh, you can't put it on him playing FB in that Geelong side last night. I wouldn't say Rocca "had the better of him" either, Roc did his job, that's pretty much how I'd sum it up, but 1 goal in an 86 point win isn't "beating".

As for you Joker comment: so true. :D:p:thumbsu:

[Swanny36]

Yeah, I understand what you boys are saying.

Just these select few imbosiles, who obviously hate Scarlett, saying stuff like "Scarlett was exposed" or "Rocca beat him all hands up" is ludicrous.

FB's are unfortunately the ones made to look bad by their teams horrendousness, and considering how woeful the Cats were last night Scarlett on Rocca did a fair job. As I said any other FB would have given up 4-5 to Big Ant the way the Pies were playing.

He gave away some frees, some very, very dubious, because he was attempting to create some movement and lift his side, just like he did early in the HOF Match. Not his fault the Cats did him no favours. And he did not attack as hard last night because obviously we were all over them, so he didn't have the luxury and the faith in his boys to win the ball.

And the bronx jeers was pathetic. The guy is a FB, and he's getting jeers because he isn't touching the ball. :rolleyes: Gee, shows how bloody good he must be, he gives up 1 goal and has 16 touches from FB in a massacre and still cops the bronxies from the crowd. That was pretty laughable I thought.

Scarlett was far, far away from Geelong's worst last night.
Rocca also could have kicked that, he had 4 scoring assists and one goal.....he played awesome...and he did beat scarlett, as good as scarlett is, rocca bounced back from the critics during the week and beat hime overall...but you're right in saying that scarlett wasnt exposed, he certainly wasnt exposed, it was pretty hard for any geelong player to play good last night....plus with scarletts run off the backline and gathering 16 touches, the touches themselves werent exactly effective, 8 kicks and 8 handballs hardly trying to create inspiration for a team...they werent doing anything with the ball all night....they fiddled around with it..

[Somebody]

lmao, now that you mention it.... it is pretty simple isnt it.....hahaha why wouldnt they have just had rocca run around free up the wings and let scarlett stay off him until rocca got with in scoring range and then run back to him...dumbass'
Hmm maybe Thompson was looking one move ahead in the chess game - ie if moved to Cloke, cloke would have been instructed to do the same thing (and is more suited to up the field work, faster more endurance), leaving Rocca in F50 to take easy marks.
Still woudl have been worht a try for a few minutes at least.

[Somebody]

they did rocca presided to outmark thre cats on the wing and then drill the ball 50 meteres to didak who out marked.............scarlett. They also tried scarlett on trav who then played highjer up with trav punishing him. so he was comprehensively beaten


He did though, he had ten touches 9 marks most of which were contested, kicked 1 should of had two as he gave one off to bryan.

He also ran hrad, presented and tackled/attacked geelong players feroursciously.

so yeah he played well very well
Good analysis, just made my last post redundant. I havne't seen the game yet is my excuse... still waiting for damned torrent.

[OniAu]

scarlet is the best full back in the afl he would beat rocca hands down any day of the week, rocca is was and always will be a dud he hasnt had a good game for years and was easily beaten in he prelim final last year by scalet but of course true collingwood people had a excuse for that rocca wasnt fit fair dinkum collingwood is always full of excuses for evey loss and every bad game a player has if rocca wasnt fit enough to compete he shouldnt have be out there dont take to much joy in seeing scarlet holding he ball twice cause when it mattered in last years final scarlet stood up and scarlet will do it again if you meet in the finals this year dont you worry about that. but it seems like all you have to do when you have a collingwood jumper on is to get a couple of kicks and all of a sudden your a superstar anyway look out for me post after you get knocked out of the finals i will be carrying on like you lot are now.

what?

[Pie eyed]

scarlet is the best full back in the afl he would beat rocca hands down any day of the week, rocca is was and always will be a dud he hasnt had a good game for years and was easily beaten in he prelim final last year by scalet but of course true collingwood people had a excuse for that rocca wasnt fit fair dinkum collingwood is always full of excuses for evey loss and every bad game a player has if rocca wasnt fit enough to compete he shouldnt have be out there dont take to much joy in seeing scarlet holding he ball twice cause when it mattered in last years final scarlet stood up and scarlet will do it again if you meet in the finals this year dont you worry about that. but it seems like all you have to do when you have a collingwood jumper on is to get a couple of kicks and all of a sudden your a superstar anyway look out for me post after you get knocked out of the finals i will be carrying on like you lot are now.

Are you just trying to get your "post numbers" up?

Totally pointless addition to this thread. You are uninformed and probably did not even watch the game judging by your opinion.
Just because there is a post somewhere on Bigfooty with Rocca's name in it don't feel you have to contribute.

Rocca was fit to compete, he did have a marked effect on the outcome of the game. The difference was he controlled where Scarlett went.
Big Anthony's contribution to the Collingwood win far outweighed Scarlett's contribution for the Cats....end of story.
Scarlett was not pantsed by any means, but Rocca won the duel.
If and when Scarlett is asked to comment on the game and Rocca, I believe he will confirm this.

[King_Tredrea]

why do some people not rate this guy? i mean hes never gonna be a champion of the game but he is usually enormous for collingwood in terms of his influence on games. and always puts in 100%

[DWil6]

scarlet is the best full back in the afl he would beat rocca hands down any day of the week, rocca is was and always will be a dud he hasnt had a good game for years and was easily beaten in he prelim final last year by scalet but of course true collingwood people had a excuse for that rocca wasnt fit fair dinkum collingwood is always full of excuses for evey loss and every bad game a player has if rocca wasnt fit enough to compete he shouldnt have be out there dont take to much joy in seeing scarlet holding he ball twice cause when it mattered in last years final scarlet stood up and scarlet will do it again if you meet in the finals this year dont you worry about that. but it seems like all you have to do when you have a collingwood jumper on is to get a couple of kicks and all of a sudden your a superstar anyway look out for me post after you get knocked out of the finals i will be carrying on like you lot are now.
Such awesome punctuation.. Snag, we've got something to work with here!

[Snag Breac]

I'm just going by personal experience on that 99% claim. I don't know a Pies fan that likes him on this forum and personally.

"Fail to deliver" is harsh, you can't put it on him playing FB in that Geelong side last night. I wouldn't say Rocca "had the better of him" either, Roc did his job, that's pretty much how I'd sum it up, but 1 goal in an 86 point win isn't "beating".



I'm more suspicious of your intentions than ever, ALM 30. Your posts remind me of Pope's poem, Epistle to Dr Arbuthnot, where he describes how a cowardly critic goes about his business. He will:

Damn with faint praise, assent with civil leer
And without sneering, teach the rest to sneer;
Willing to wound, and yet afraid to strike,
Just hint a fault, and hesitate dislike.

Almost 300 years later and it's you to the life.:thumbsd:

[Kirby]

scarlet is the best full back in the afl he would beat rocca hands down any day of the week, rocca is was and always will be a dud he hasnt had a good game for years and was easily beaten in he prelim final last year by scalet but of course true collingwood people had a excuse for that rocca wasnt fit fair dinkum collingwood is always full of excuses for evey loss and every bad game a player has if rocca wasnt fit enough to compete he shouldnt have be out there dont take to much joy in seeing scarlet holding he ball twice cause when it mattered in last years final scarlet stood up and scarlet will do it again if you meet in the finals this year dont you worry about that. but it seems like all you have to do when you have a collingwood jumper on is to get a couple of kicks and all of a sudden your a superstar anyway look out for me post after you get knocked out of the finals i will be carrying on like you lot are now.

LMFAO!

This poster must have got lost on his way to school.

[mdc]

scarlet is the best full back in the afl he would beat rocca hands down any day of the week, rocca is was and always will be a dud he hasnt had a good game for years and was easily beaten in he prelim final last year by scalet but of course true collingwood people had a excuse for that rocca wasnt fit fair dinkum collingwood is always full of excuses for evey loss and every bad game a player has if rocca wasnt fit enough to compete he shouldnt have be out there dont take to much joy in seeing scarlet holding he ball twice cause when it mattered in last years final scarlet stood up and scarlet will do it again if you meet in the finals this year dont you worry about that. but it seems like all you have to do when you have a collingwood jumper on is to get a couple of kicks and all of a sudden your a superstar anyway look out for me post after you get knocked out of the finals i will be carrying on like you lot are now.

I'm more suspicious of your intentions than ever, ALM 30. Your posts remind me of Pope's poem, Epistle to Dr Arbuthnot, where he describes how a cowardly critic goes about his business. He will:

Damn with faint praise, assent with civil leer
And without sneering, teach the rest to sneer;
Willing to wound, and yet afraid to strike,
Just hint a fault, and hesitate dislike.

Almost 300 years later and it's you to the life.:thumbsd:

These two posts in the same thread - you have to love BF :D

[magpies42]

awesome game, didnt score the goals. but he played a role a made it alot easier for everybody else! wld almost be in the votes

[Optimax]

why do some people not rate this guy? i mean hes never gonna be a champion of the game but he is usually enormous for collingwood in terms of his influence on games. and always puts in 100%
most of us do, those that dodnt really watch him are the ones that bag him, glad it is visible to opposistion supporters as well

[mattys123]

To see how important Anthony Rocca is to Collingwood you have to actually go and watch him live. His work rate off the ball has improved dramatically as his career has developed, and this work rate with good old one percenters such as blocks and shephards that shows his real value to us.

But throughout his whole career he has consistently been near the top of the list for contested marks, to the point where several years he has actually led the leauge.

Any Collingwood supporter who repeatedly bags Rocca should pull out the tape/dvd of the 2002 Grand Final. In that game alone him and bucks almost won us the unwinnable flag, and its an arguable point that if rocca had not been injured 1/2 way through the last quarter we would have won.

I love this bloke and what he has done for this football club, in fact the rocca family should be proud of their contribution to Collingwood.

[Plogs]

Such awesome punctuation.. Snag, we've got something to work with here!

He is a genius. This gem from the main board:

Quote:
Originally Posted by trev106
good man davis i find it funny a collingwood supporter should have ago at some other tema for chokeing when they have choked in the finals so many times before collingwood are nothing more then overrated pretenders you keep talking up how close you were to the gran fianl last year when you were so close to not even playing in that prelim fianl you got luky to beat west coast the week before if you lot think your even with in sight of hawks,cats or even the dogs then ya dreaming but hey i'll be having a beer to seeing collingwood loss in the finals once again.

[Optimax]

He is a genius. This gem from the main board:

Quote:
Originally Posted by trev106
good man davis i find it funny a collingwood supporter should have ago at some other tema for chokeing when they have choked in the finals so many times before collingwood are nothing more then overrated pretenders you keep talking up how close you were to the gran fianl last year when you were so close to not even playing in that prelim fianl you got luky to beat west coast the week before if you lot think your even with in sight of hawks,cats or even the dogs then ya dreaming but hey i'll be having a beer to seeing collingwood loss in the finals once again.
Ok i know my grammer gets shit some times.

But wtf is that?

[Snag Breac]

Such awesome punctuation.. Snag, we've got something to work with here!

I'd say we've struck the motherlode. As a punishment for his bad writing, never mind his ideas, the mods should place him on a continuous loop, so that whatever he tries to read or post, he's continuously directed to the Easy Grammar Fix thread.:p

[PIES_MAGIC]

no rocca no collingwood f__ken star

[Pie eyed]

I'm more suspicious of your intentions than ever, ALM 30. Your posts remind me of Pope's poem, Epistle to Dr Arbuthnot, where he describes how a cowardly critic goes about his business. He will:

Damn with faint praise, assent with civil leer
And without sneering, teach the rest to sneer;
Willing to wound, and yet afraid to strike,
Just hint a fault, and hesitate dislike.

Almost 300 years later and it's you to the life.:thumbsd:

Snag, that is no doubt the most abstract and yet dagger like bit of literary "ownage" it has been my pleasure to read for quite some time and simultaneously puts to the sword the vicious slander that Collingwood supporters are illiterate and or ignorant.

[Snag Breac]

This thread wouldn't be complete without this article. It even came with a diagram.:thumbsu:

The following article by Jake Niall appears in today's Age Sport.:thumbsu:
Note the air-supremacy evident in the photo below.
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GEELONG will learn soon whether the Friday night massacre was just the long-postponed dip it had to have, or a portent of increased vulnerability. To most observers, the outcome said more about Collingwood.
But there was one significant game within the game, played between Geelong's Matthew Scarlett — the game's premier defender — and the imposing yet erratic Anthony Rocca. This contest went decisively to the Magpies, in a manner that captured the attention of Geelong's rivals.
Scarlett shapes as the most important player in this year's premiership race — a judgement supported by defence-minded former coaches Danny Frawley and Robert Shaw, the latter noting that the full-back is usually the linchpin of a premiership team.
"The history of the great sides is that they are built around great full-backs. Kevin Sheedy often used to say this," said Shaw, now Fremantle's football manager, reeling off the names of Geoff Southby, Kelvin Moore, David Dench, Stephen Silvagni, Dustin Fletcher and Mal Michael.
Scarlett is, quite simply, the most indispensable player in the benchmark team. Gary Ablett might be as good, maybe even better, but other clubs believe his absence — or curtailment — wouldn't be as debilitating as that of Scarlett, who no longer has Matthew Egan, the injured All-Australian centre half-back, in support.
The loss of Egan for the season has forced the Cats to play P-plater Harry Taylor in a key defensive position in his first season. Up until Friday night, the Cats had gotten away with it, in part because few teams have the potency of Collingwood's power forward tandem of Rocca and Travis Cloke; the Lions, which have perhaps the most dynamic duo (Jonathan Brown and Daniel Bradshaw) were without Brown when they gave the Cats a fright at Geelong.
Hawthorn has, ominously, Buddy Franklin and Jarryd Roughead. The Cats haven't faced that double act yet, and it is worrisome for them that most of this year's premiership competitors — principally Hawthorn, Sydney, the Lions (and maybe Collingwood) — have more threatening key forwards than the teams they obliterated last year. The consensus is that two capable targets are needed to trouble them.
Aware of Scarlett's capacity not only to run off an aerobically challenged Rocca, but to control Collingwood's scoring area, the Magpies instructed Rocca to lead up the ground, sometimes as high as the wing, and drag the champion defender away from his sphere of influence — the defensive 50-metre arc.
Scarlett followed Rocca upfield, leaving the green Taylor exposed in one-out contests with Cloke, who grabbed six contested marks and booted four goals — three in the first half.
Rocca's one goal meant Scarlett held his stingy average for goals conceded this year but, as Frawley saw it, Rocca's performance — he plucked several marks and set up at least two goals — would have won high praise from coach Michael Malthouse because of what it did for his team. Knowing that Scarlett was out of the way, Collingwood booted the ball into its 50-metre arc quickly, backing its talented forwards to beat the rest of the Cats, including Taylor and an unsure Tom Harley, who seldom gets the best or second-best forward these days.
"You need someone who attracts the ball," said Frawley of the tactic of dragging Scarlett upfield. "(And) Rocca can kick from outside 50 metres."
Geelong yesterday acknowledged that it had erred by allowing Scarlett to be drawn out of the red zone and that he should have stayed back and played on whoever was at full-forward.
Geelong football operations manager Neil Balme said Scarlett and the Cats had planned for the defender to stay at home. "That was what was supposed to happen. Probably because of the nature of an Anthony Rocca it was a little bit harder to do."
Balme said Collingwood wasn't the first club to adopt tactics aimed at removing Scarlett from the scoring area. "They're always trying to do that … to take Scarlett out of the play."
The Cats have seen it, and acknowledged their mistake, but don't believe, in any case, that Collingwood's tactic had much influence on the result. Balme said the scale of defeat was caused by Geelong's collective failure in reaction to Collingwood's excellence, especially in applying pressure (55 tackles to half-time) and winning the ball.
"It (the Scarlett issue) is exacerbated by all the other things that happen," Balme said.
Shaw, Sheedy's opposition coach in Essendon's better days, recalled that teams routinely sought to drag Fletcher, a rebounding playmaker in the Scarlett mould, away from full-back. The Dons often responded by leaving their champion defender in his position, even if this meant he ended up on a lesser, or smaller opponent; once, the 197-centimetre Fletcher played on 171-centimetre Phillip Matera because Matera was actually the de facto full-forward.
While Essendon was sometimes criticised for not playing Fletcher on the opposition's premier forward in those days, Shaw said he took the view that it was more important to "hold" the defensive structure. "If they're away from full-back, you've fallen for the opposition's wish list," he said.
Top of Geelong's wish list must be that Scarlett remains healthy. The Cats obviously won't say that they're road-kill without him, but they know where he stands in the competition.
Balme, a 1970s Richmond player, rates "Scarlo" superior to that era's best attacking full-back, David Dench.
How would the premiers fare without the premier defender? "That's hypothetical," said Balme. "But he's a very important player."
Scarlett followed Rocca upfield, leaving the green Taylor exposed in one-out contests with Cloke, who grabbed six contested marks and booted four goals — three in the first half.
Rocca's one goal meant Scarlett held his stingy average for goals conceded this year but, as Frawley saw it, Rocca's performance — he plucked several marks and set up at least two goals — would have won high praise from coach Michael Malthouse because of what it did for his team. Knowing that Scarlett was out of the way, Collingwood booted the ball into its 50-metre arc quickly, backing its talented forwards to beat the rest of the Cats, including Taylor and an unsure Tom Harley, who seldom gets the best or second-best forward these days.
"You need someone who attracts the ball," said Frawley of the tactic of dragging Scarlett upfield. "(And) Rocca can kick from outside 50 metres."
Geelong yesterday acknowledged that it had erred by allowing Scarlett to be drawn out of the red zone and that he should have stayed back and played on whoever was at full-forward.
Geelong football operations manager Neil Balme said Scarlett and the Cats had planned for the defender to stay at home. "That was what was supposed to happen. Probably because of the nature of an Anthony Rocca it was a little bit harder to do."
Balme said Collingwood wasn't the first club to adopt tactics aimed at removing Scarlett from the scoring area. "They're always trying to do that … to take Scarlett out of the play."
The Cats have seen it, and acknowledged their mistake, but don't believe, in any case, that Collingwood's tactic had much influence on the result. Balme said the scale of defeat was caused by Geelong's collective failure in reaction to Collingwood's excellence, especially in applying pressure (55 tackles to half-time) and winning the ball.
"It (the Scarlett issue) is exacerbated by all the other things that happen," Balme said.
Shaw, Sheedy's opposition coach in Essendon's better days, recalled that teams routinely sought to drag Fletcher, a rebounding playmaker in the Scarlett mould, away from full-back. The Dons often responded by leaving their champion defender in his position, even if this meant he ended up on a lesser, or smaller opponent; once, the 197-centimetre Fletcher played on 171-centimetre Phillip Matera because Matera was actually the de facto full-forward.
While Essendon was sometimes criticised for not playing Fletcher on the opposition's premier forward in those days, Shaw said he took the view that it was more important to "hold" the defensive structure. "If they're away from full-back, you've fallen for the opposition's wish list," he said.
Top of Geelong's wish list must be that Scarlett remains healthy. The Cats obviously won't say that they're road-kill without him, but they know where he stands in the competition.
Balme, a 1970s Richmond player, rates "Scarlo" superior to that era's best attacking full-back, David Dench.
How would the premiers fare without the premier defender? "That's hypothetical," said Balme. "But he's a very important player."
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[Pie eyed]

Nice article Mr Niall