Changes vs Geelong?

[Mike_blues]

just wondering what u guys think on the changes for next week
if waite and setanta are right to go, who is going to make way for thornton/maybe bannister also
i cant really pick who is gonna get dropped
aswell as cloke coming bak the selectors have some troubles:)

IN: Thornton, Cloke, maybe bannister
Out: wiggins(like the guiy but someone has gotta give way), ???????

if waite or setanta are out it would make things easier for the selectors

[stokesy]

Waite will be suspended.

[Blueinblood]

what qaurter and what time did waite commit the incident?

[mightymightyblues]

In: Thornton Cloke
Out: Kreuzer (needs a week in the 2nd's) Browne

Waite won't be suspended. If Maxwell's hit on Murphy warranted just 1 week, Waite will get off with a reprimand.

[Charbzilla]

toughest week for the match committee.

Grigg has been consistent and deserves a place.
Pfeiffer has been vey effective and also deserves a place.
Bentick had an absolute standout performance and deserves a place.
Browne is very servicable and deserves a place.

IN:
Bannister (need his tagging ability this weekend)
Cloke
Thorton

OUT:
Hampson (bit stiff, but hierarcy of ruckmen will see him omitted)
Wiggins (upgraded for Thornton)
Edwards (Probably the harshest decision, but we bit Forward-heavy against the Cats)

[parrot]

No change.

Stay Out: Ackland.

:)

[Blue Dimension]

In: Thornton, Bannister
Out: Wiggins, Waite (susp.)

[Blueinblood]

HELLO?
What stage of the match did waite dow hatever he did

[gandaal]

HELLO?
What stage of the match did waite dow hatever he did

He did a late hit on a Freo player late in the last quarter. Deserved a free at the time but would be a very soft suspension imo.

[Cruiser23]

In: Thornton, Bannister
Out: Wiggins, Waite (susp.)

I second that.

[Charbzilla]

Waite's aggressive hit was in the 18th minute in the 4th quarter.

Looking at the clip, i think he'll be out for a week.

So i'll change my ins and outs so that Edwards can get some valuable experience against the cats:

IN:
Bannister (replaces Wiggins)
Cloke
Thorton

OUT:
Hampson (bit stiff, but hierarcy of ruckmen will see him omitted)
Wiggins (upgraded for Thornton)
Waite (suspended for 1 week - my assumption)

[bluegal1983]

Tough decision but Banno and Thornton add some much needed experience down back. Hopefully Cloke comes in as well as Ottens is probably back in and we will need a big body against him.

In: Bannister, Thornton, Cloke
Out: Brown, Kreuzer, Edwards

Anybody omited is very unlucky IMO.

How bad is Carlos' injury? Perhaps he should be rested?

[CarltonFan]

In Thornton
Out Wiggins

waite wont get suspended imo.

[jonoman89]

well it's not like we are going to win this one, so im all for playing the kids.

[The Grover]

Ins:Thornton,Cloke (if not 100% fit, don't play)

Outs:Kreuzer,Wiggins


Anderson getting close to a game.

[dukester95]

IN: (if fully fit)
Bannister
Cloke
Thorton

OUT:
Kreuzer (7 possies and 43% eff - needs time in the Ants)
Wiggins (10 pos - 1 goal)
Browne (10 pos - 1 goal)

[bluegal1983]

well it's not like we are going to win this one, so im all for playing the kids.

Admitting defeat before the bounce is terrible! Boooooooooo!!! :thumbsd:

[CarltonFan]

IN: (if fully fit)
Bannister
Cloke
Thorton

OUT:
Kreuzer (7 possies and 43% eff - needs time in the Ants)
Wiggins (10 pos - 1 goal)
Browne (10 pos - 1 goal)

ROFL lololololol!!!!!!!!!!!!! omit browne! bahahaha

[The_JUDDERNAUT]

is the waite hit on youtube??? was he reported at the time?

[kouta6]

in:cloke(rotate him through the ruck and chf), thornton
out:o'hailpin(love the bloke but he really is not showing the improvement he promised), grigg(bit stiff to get droped but is the least needed in our team to make way for thornton)

[Feva]

in:cloke(rotate him through the ruck and chf), thornton
out:o'hailpin(love the bloke but he really is not showing the improvement he promised), grigg(bit stiff to get droped but is the least needed in our team to make way for thornton)

Interesting selection policy!

Drop two of our better players from the weekend's game. Surprised you don't think we should drop Fev after kicking jst one goal.

[Feva]

IN: (if fully fit)
Bannister
Cloke
Thorton

OUT:
Kreuzer (7 possies and 43% eff - needs time in the Ants)
Wiggins (10 pos - 1 goal)
Browne (10 pos - 1 goal)

Browne must play as he will have a job to do on one of Geelongs smaller players. Should get the job on Stokes.

[kouta6]

Interesting selection policy!

Drop two of our better players from the weekend's game. Surprised you don't think we should drop Fev after kicking jst one goal.

i dont see how sententa was one of our better players on the weekend,
pavlich kicked 4 goals on him and he could have kicked 5 if he didnt choke infront of goal. plus carlos turned it over a few times. grigg was alright but he doesnt add much to the team we are just trying to develop him so he doesnt have to play every game this year give him a few runs in the vfl just to keep him pushing for selection and hungry to get a spot in the side.
im not sure but i think his man was mayne on the weekend so he didnt have much to cover either

[HBF]

i dont see how sententa was one of our better players on the weekend,
pavlich kicked 4 goals on him and he could have kicked 5 if he didnt choke infront of goal. plus carlos turned it over a few times. grigg was alright but he doesnt add much to the team we are just trying to develop him so he doesnt have to play every game this year give him a few runs in the vfl just to keep him pushing for selection and hungry to get a spot in the side.
im not sure but i think his man was mayne on the weekend so he didnt have much to cover either

One of those goals was from an ultra soft free kick before the game even started, and another was from a burst out of the middle, when Carlos didn't follow Pav in there. So really, keeping him to 4 goals considering those 2 is not a bad effort.

My changes are:

In: Cloke, Thornton
Out: Waite (Susp), Wiggins (omit)

[Feva]

i dont see how sententa was one of our better players on the weekend,
pavlich kicked 4 goals on him and he could have kicked 5 if he didnt choke infront of goal. plus carlos turned it over a few times. grigg was alright but he doesnt add much to the team we are just trying to develop him so he doesnt have to play every game this year give him a few runs in the vfl just to keep him pushing for selection and hungry to get a spot in the side.
im not sure but i think his man was mayne on the weekend so he didnt have much to cover either

From memory Pav kicked a couple while playing on the ball. Regardless, Setanta conceding 4 goals on one of the power forwards is a great result. Spoiled quite well and rebounded well. Had one shocking turnover late in the last quarter. Especially with Jamo out, can't afford to drop Setanta.

Dropping players to the Ants can also have the opposite affect of what you are proposing. Russell has been in and out of the team for the last few years and it has shattered his confidence. He finally keeps his post and continues to improve. What would happen to Griggs confidence if he gets dropped after having 21 touches in a winning side.

Dont change for the sake of change.

[reddevils88]

waite will get a week (not a bad thing) makes too many mistakes and gives away too many free kicks. If you watched the game closely yesterday freo tried to go through him. If we are fair dinkum about moving up the ladder and contesting for a flag within 5 years then we need to put him up for trade at the end of the year. We will hopefully get something of value. Don't post replies with bs about him being a superstar, super centre half back,blah blah because at the end of the day his disposal is just, his decision making is poor and his ability to give the opposition goals has been there for all to see. (he is 24 not 18 shouldn't be making the same mistakes now that he has been in the system for 7 years) I personally would rest Kruezer and Judd this week as Geelong will come out breathing fire. Don't come on here and tell me we will win. Lets be realistic and hope that we can compete. We are not in the class of the top 4 just yet.
Ins - T-Bird (if fit) Banno (ditto) and maybe Anderson
Out - Krueze and Judd (rest) and stupid oops waite out suspended)
Kidding yourself if you think browne or grigg will get dropped watch the last quarter and see how grigg went. Wiggins presents and has balls. Shouldn't get dropped either. BTW - the setanta experiment hasn't worked. Once all players return good bye Irish.

[Athomas]

IN: (if fully fit)
Bannister
Cloke
Thorton

OUT:
Hampson
Wiggins
Browne

I can see Browne getting dropped (probably doesnt deserve it but I can see it easily).

I think Cloke won't be ready but.

[R1KSTA]

In: Cloke & Thornton
Out: Sentanta (needs to be dropped into seconds this week, can't afford him in the side) & Browne (we just need bret thornton back in, so some1 has to be sacrificed)

For those people saying Kruizer needs to be dropped into the seconds, you gotta be kidding yourself. Right?
The kid is only in his first year and this week will give him a real test against the premiership ruckman in ottens (if he returns).

But im betting my left and half my right nut we beat the cats by 1-2 goals, in a very close one!!

GO BLUES!!

[BBSK]

IN: (if fully fit)
Bannister
Cloke
Thorton

OUT:
Hampson
Wiggins
Browne

I can see Browne getting dropped (probably doesnt deserve it but I can see it easily).

I think Cloke won't be ready but.

bit stiff, i'd personally put browney ahead of edwards

[Il Naso De Gastev]

Can't believe so many are calling for Kreuzer to be dropped. Developing very nicely IMO. Could be a watershed game for him against the cats... their comparitively poor ruck division of Blake and West will give him the chance to pick up a lot of kicks and hurt the cats around the ground. Ottens won't play.

[Bentick's My Man.]

IN:
Cloke

OUT:
Wiggins

Three pronged ruck attack but Edwards may also miss out only if Thornton is ready.

[simpson6]

waite will get a week (not a bad thing) makes too many mistakes and gives away too many free kicks. If you watched the game closely yesterday freo tried to go through him. If we are fair dinkum about moving up the ladder and contesting for a flag within 5 years then we need to put him up for trade at the end of the year. We will hopefully get something of value. Don't post replies with bs about him being a superstar, super centre half back,blah blah because at the end of the day his disposal is just, his decision making is poor and his ability to give the opposition goals has been there for all to see. (he is 24 not 18 shouldn't be making the same mistakes now that he has been in the system for 7 years) I personally would rest Kruezer and Judd this week as Geelong will come out breathing fire. Don't come on here and tell me we will win. Lets be realistic and hope that we can compete. We are not in the class of the top 4 just yet.
Ins - T-Bird (if fit) Banno (ditto) and maybe Anderson
Out - Krueze and Judd (rest) and stupid oops waite out suspended)
Kidding yourself if you think browne or grigg will get dropped watch the last quarter and see how grigg went. Wiggins presents and has balls. Shouldn't get dropped either. BTW - the setanta experiment hasn't worked. Once all players return good bye Irish.

hahahah your post was stupid... your trying to be logical, but you must be a hiding collingwood supporter... do you really think Waite has "trade-value" i dont think so, hes a great player for us, we depend on him down back, and it's also a joke to think we should rest Judd and drop Kreuzeur... Anderson i dont think so.. how bout dropping WIGGINS .. FFS!! Maybe your his brother, yeh he goes in, but he has low talent for AFL LEVEL... the stand out was Grigg, what a great future ahead.. but seriously O'Hailpin...

He is not a forward!!! he is a good defender!! just give him some time, we gotta persist with him.. he was really good last year, commentators have even said that he looks like a defender who could play 100 games for us.. why sack him and say he was a failure of a forward (ratten want's him in the forward line).

[Five]

No change - unless the possible returnees are fitter than any of Saturday's team. T-bird was not even close this week so I doubt he will be 100% and as much as I would like Clokey in he would have to be 101%

[chelsworthgale]

waite will get a week (not a bad thing) makes too many mistakes and gives away too many free kicks. If you watched the game closely yesterday freo tried to go through him. If we are fair dinkum about moving up the ladder and contesting for a flag within 5 years then we need to put him up for trade at the end of the year. We will hopefully get something of value. Don't post replies with bs about him being a superstar, super centre half back,blah blah because at the end of the day his disposal is just, his decision making is poor and his ability to give the opposition goals has been there for all to see. (he is 24 not 18 shouldn't be making the same mistakes now that he has been in the system for 7 years) I personally would rest Kruezer and Judd this week as Geelong will come out breathing fire. Don't come on here and tell me we will win. Lets be realistic and hope that we can compete. We are not in the class of the top 4 just yet.
Ins - T-Bird (if fit) Banno (ditto) and maybe Anderson
Out - Krueze and Judd (rest) and stupid oops waite out suspended)
Kidding yourself if you think browne or grigg will get dropped watch the last quarter and see how grigg went. Wiggins presents and has balls. Shouldn't get dropped either. BTW - the setanta experiment hasn't worked. Once all players return good bye Irish.

are you all there champ or just trying to take some of the P I double S?

Resting Judd and Kruezer... Kruezer yeah a run the magoos could be worthwhile but from memory one of my Ants mates said he was returning to Old Ivanhoe for a run this week because the Ants had the week off... But Judd, hahahahahahahaha come on you must be taking the P I double S now! :rolleyes:

As for the setanta irish experiment, there is already a thread on that and your so far off the pace it isnt funny but then again so was 95% of you entire post above... :rolleyes:

[Dustyjackman]

Firstly Setanta hasn't been in the system for 7 years, he was drafted in 2004 at the age of 21 from Ireland!


Unless my reading is up the s__t, I think you will find he was referring to Waite being in the system for 7 years and at his age should have finer disposal and decision making skills.

[Blue History]

Firstly i must say Waite won't be suspended, the act was a clumsy attempt to put late pressure on the handball, but impact was low and wasn't a strike, rather a push in the face with two fists so the tribunal will look but not lay charge, would have to be the first report for a push in the face.

Those wanting Hampson dropped for Cloke, need to think, who else is going to play ruck and have the ability to jump high which is what Hammer brings and games is the only thing that will give him experience, bring Cloke in and keep Kruezer up forward, stretch the Geelong defence for height. He also had 14 hitouts against Freo, good effort considering who he was up against.

And those that are calling for Setanta to be dropped, watch the past two weeks...he deserves his spot and is the best match up for Mooney. Somebody who shows toughness at the player and ball is what we need against Geelong and big Sets brings that all.

The advantage of having Edward in the team this week was evident, it allowed Fisher to push up and create across CHF, it gave our onballers another target, and takes another defender, and if you rewatch the game you'll see Edwards also pushed up the groud to create a contest, he helped straighten up the forward line, lets keep him in and push Geelong's defense....Fev, Fisher, Kruezer, Edwards and the ever dangerous Betts.

I say stay the same, if Cloke is available bring him in and give Brown a run in the 2's, give 100% game time in the 2's, and like Pfeiffer he'll be better for the run and game time and be back in a couple of weeks, lets not forget its his first year and he'll get another 200 games easy based on what he has done so far.

[dukester95]

IN: (if fully fit)
Bannister
Cloke
Thorton

OUT:
Kreuzer (7 possies and 43% eff - needs time in the Ants)
Wiggins (10 pos - 1 goal)
Browne (10 pos - 1 goal)

ROFL lololololol!!!!!!!!!!!!! omit browne! bahahaha

We need experienced players to get over Geelong. As good as Browne was on Saturday he's still at the lower end of the scale. It's either him or Edwards.

[chelsworthgale]

IN: (if fully fit)
Bannister
Cloke
Thorton

OUT:
Kreuzer (7 possies and 43% eff - needs time in the Ants)
Wiggins (10 pos - 1 goal)
Browne (10 pos - 1 goal)



We need experienced players to get over Geelong. As good as Browne was on Saturday he's still at the lower end of the scale. It's either him or Edwards.

using that logic we should bring in Saddington and Ackland.

Collingwood won with the kids (wellingham, pendelbury and co.) there is nothing to suggest that we couldn't do the same should all the planets align!

[Mayesy_23]

In: (If 100% fit) Bannister for a job on Ablett / Bartel.
Cloke because we miss him and he's our no 1 ruck.
Thornton to do a job on a small or tall forward.
Out: Wiggins did ok but the ins are too good to leave out.
Edwards is unlucky but just needs development.
Browne for the same reason.

Left Kreuzer out because if he can sneak a couple of goals it could be very handy. Remember Geelong's backline isn't that tall and we could exploit them there.

[Kooley]

in:cloke(rotate him through the ruck and chf), thornton
out:o'hailpin(love the bloke but he really is not showing the improvement he promised), grigg(bit stiff to get droped but is the least needed in our team to make way for thornton)Are you serious mate?:eek:

[Bluebear]

There are some lunatics on this board.:o

[thylacine60]

Browne and Grigg have to stay in. Could Browney be any cooler out there?

[magpies10]

Just a quick one, I have been told by many Carlton supporters that Collingwood is still a useless team despite the Geelong win. Therefore Geelong most be terrible and I now believe that your side that got over Fremantle by 9 points should be able to easily account for the cats with an unchanged lineup.

Should I believe people when they tell me that the Geelong win means nothing or should I wait untill after this week when Carlton who I have been told are better than Collingwood give Geelong the same hiding that we gave them last week?? Any thoughts

[thylacine60]

Just a quick one, I have been told by many Carlton supporters that Collingwood is still a useless team despite the Geelong win. Therefore Geelong most be terrible and I now believe that your side that got over Fremantle by 9 points should be able to easily account for the cats with an unchanged lineup.

Should I believe people when they tell me that the Geelong win means nothing or should I wait untill after this week when Carlton who I have been told are better than Collingwood give Geelong the same hiding that we gave them last week?? Any thoughts

This bloke isn't the worst and sometimes even comes out with a sensible comment or two but can we card him once in a while just to keep him in his box a bit? Huh? Can we, can we?

[magpies10]

I am only posting what I have been told be people who follow your mob.

[prenticem]

Waite is out for 1 week.

[thylacine60]

Waite is out for 1 week.

Really handy result, Jarrad. :mad:

[CarltonFan]

OUT: waite wiggins
IN: thornton anderson

[NWTYRX]

If he pleads guilty he can't get off, but he also can't have his suspension increased either, if he challenges

[Bluebear]

If he pleads guilty he can't get off, but he also can't have his suspension increased either, if he challenges
So if he challenges he could get off? :confused:

Out: Waite
In: Bannister/Anderson

[NWTYRX]

So if he challenges he could get off? :confused:


Yes, if he challenges and wins, he plays against Geelong. If he loses, he still only misses the one match

[thylacine60]

Yes, if he challenges and wins, he plays against Geelong. If he loses, he still only misses the one match

Bit of a no-brainer then. What a bizarre system.

[blues4flag]

Bit of a no-brainer then. What a bizarre system.

Although if he challenges and loses, he doesn't receive the 25% discount - next time he's suspended, he'll have more carry over points.

[Mike_blues]

Bit of a no-brainer then. What a bizarre system.
he'll have more carry over points

[Blue History]

Just a quick one, I have been told by many Carlton supporters that Collingwood is still a useless team despite the Geelong win. Therefore Geelong most be terrible and I now believe that your side that got over Fremantle by 9 points should be able to easily account for the cats with an unchanged lineup.

Should I believe people when they tell me that the Geelong win means nothing or should I wait untill after this week when Carlton who I have been told are better than Collingwood give Geelong the same hiding that we gave them last week?? Any thoughts

You have won 4 games apart fromt he Geelong game, you have defeated Richmond, Essendon and Freo...thats 3 teams in the bottom 5 before the start of round 9 and who have only won 6 games between them.

The other team is StKilda, the most underperformed team in the past 8 years.

So yes, Collingwood are still unproven.

Now that I have had to answer question off the topic, bugger off back to slums.

[HBF]

In: Cloke, Thornton
Out: Waite (susp), Wiggins

Basically, Thornton replaces Waite, and Cloke goes into the forward line to give Fisher and Fevola some support, and Wiggins is unlucky - again.

[gbatman]

My prediction:

CARLTON
B: Setanta O’hAilpin, Bret Thornton, Shaun Grigg
HB: Heath Scotland, Paul Bower, Andrew Carrazzo
C: Joe Anderson, Chris Judd, Kade Simpson
HF: Simon Wiggins, Jake Edwards, Bryce Gibbs
F: Brad Fisher, Brendan Fevola, Eddie Betts
Foll: Matthew Kreuzer, Nick Stevens, Marc Murphy
I/C: Adam Bentick, Steven Browne, Shaun Hampson, Jordan Russell

In:
Joe Anderson, Bret Thornton

Out:
Pfeifer (omitted), Waite (susp)

I know they don't like dropping players from a winning side but i think they will go for pace against Geelong so i don't think Hadley or Pfeifer will play. Kreuzer, Hampson or Edwards may give way for Cloke (If avaliable) and Bannister may come in instead of Anderson or in place of Browne.

We can win the ruck this week, Geelong's rucks aren't much. Blake will be a good matchup for Kreuzer/Hampson.

Either way should be a good test and good education for our young players...

[Mike_blues]

My prediction:

CARLTON
B: Setanta O’hAilpin, Bret Thornton, Shaun Grigg
HB: Heath Scotland, Paul Bower, Andrew Carrazzo
C: Joe Anderson, Chris Judd, Kade Simpson
HF: Simon Wiggins, Jake Edwards, Bryce Gibbs
F: Brad Fisher, Brendan Fevola, Eddie Betts
Foll: Matthew Kreuzer, Nick Stevens, Marc Murphy
I/C: Adam Bentick, Steven Browne, Shaun Hampson, Jordan Russell

In:
Joe Anderson, Bret Thornton

Out:
Pfeifer (omitted), Waite (susp)

I know they don't like dropping players from a winning side but i think they will go for pace against Geelong so i don't think Hadley or Pfeifer will play. Kreuzer, Hampson or Edwards may give way for Cloke (If avaliable) and Bannister may come in instead of Anderson or in place of Browne.

We can win the ruck this week, Geelong's rucks aren't much. Blake will be a good matchup for Kreuzer/Hampson.

Either way should be a good test and good education for our young players...
i know u sed u didnt want to omit anyone.. but seriously pfeiffer?:eek: the things he did were great.. not just the goal and did 2 360's around opponets and bounced off them like a little nuggety guy he is(i think huddo or christian sed this)

[thylacine60]

i know u sed u didnt want to omit anyone.. but seriously pfeiffer?:eek: the things he did were great.. not just the goal and did 2 360's around opponets and bounced off them like a little nuggety guy he is(i think huddo or christian sed this)

Totally, completely, unapologetically agree.

[gbatman]

Totally, completely, unapologetically agree.
Im thinking that his lack of pace will be exploited by geelong, they have many more quicker players than Freo and might run rings around some of our slower blokes.

Although I would like to see Pfeifer played as a small forward, he seems to have some goal sence.

If Thornton, Cloke and/or Bannister are avaliable i think 3 may have to make way.

Just though they might go with an attacking defender like Anderson.

Calls to drop Wiggins are rediculous, had the same impact as Pfeifer but i think Wiggins offers more defencive pressure and is better in the air.

Either way such a very hard call, he was the emmergancy last week but he didn't do a lot wrong, perhaps needed to do what Bentick did to cement his place.


Beating Freo was nothing. At the end of the Geelong game we will know who is up to it and who isn't. Who can play against good sides because that's what you do in finals. If I had my way I'd like to play Geelong, Hawthorn, Bulldogs and Kangaroos more, it would give us a better idea of where we are at and where individuals are at.

[thylacine60]

Im thinking that his lack of pace will be exploited by geelong, they have many more quicker players than Freo and might run rings around some of our slower blokes.

Although I would like to see Pfeifer played as a small forward, he seems to have some goal sence.

If Thornton, Cloke and/or Bannister are avaliable i think 3 may have to make way.

Just though they might go with an attacking defender like Anderson.

Calls to drop Wiggins are rediculous, had the same impact as Pfeifer but i think Wiggins offers more defencive pressure and is better in the air.

Either way such a very hard call, he was the emmergancy last week but he didn't do a lot wrong, perhaps needed to do what Bentick did to cement his place.


Beating Freo was nothing. At the end of the Geelong game we will know who is up to it and who isn't. Who can play against good sides because that's what you do in finals. If I had my way I'd like to play Geelong, Hawthorn, Bulldogs and Kangaroos more, it would give us a better idea of where we are at and where individuals are at.

Yep, well said.

[gbatman]

i know u sed u didnt want to omit anyone.. but seriously pfeiffer?:eek: the things he did were great.. not just the goal and did 2 360's around opponets and bounced off them like a little nuggety guy he is(i think huddo or christian sed this)

Hahaha those commentators are terrible, they jump on the bandwagon to what ever side/player is on top at the time. Turn the sound down and make your own decisions...
Also what player did have a bad game? They all contributed. It's horses for courses, Freo aren't any good, Geelong are a much better side than them and are structured differently, also some of the players coming back from injury will play for Carlton or not at all, someone has to make way. It's hard to take players out of a winning side, but you have to look at their form over the whole year and not one game over a mediocre side.

[jonoman89]

OUT: Waite, Edwards

IN: Cloke, Thornton

[Gozz]

Out: Waite (suspended)
In: Cloke

Keep T-Bird and Bannister in the Ants for an extra week because nobody deserves to be dropped and it will keep them hungry. Although Wiggins is not a talented player, he tries hard and has done just enough to keep his place.