Best #3 since 1987

[FiveStrings]

It would have been interesting to have done this poll twelve months ago. I reckon the result might have been different. RIP Mainy.

Neither of these players wore other numbers at the Eagles.

[Gunnar Longshanks]

It's Judd all the way.

[Father Jack]

I'm gonna have to go with Mainwaring on this one.

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Was Chris Mainwaring the best player in the league for three years?

No. He wasn't.

[FiveStrings]

I'm gonna have to go with Mainwaring on this one.

Was Chris Mainwaring the best player in the league for three years?

No. He wasn't.

That's why this will be an interesting one.

[Gunnar Longshanks]

That's why this will be an interesting one.The only reason people could vote Mainwaring is out of respect for a deceased former player and out of bitterness at Judd's betrayal.

If you take out sentiment, it's Judd every day of the week.

I'd like to hear a coherent argument for Mainwaring. Judd was the best player in the comp for three years.

[Father Jack]

You're probably right, but Judd's betrayal makes it hard to give him the accolade over someone like Mainwaring. I'm assuming we are going on more than simply the 'best' player in for a given number, but rather their worth to the club. Or something.

[Goldfish]

Mainy bled blue and gold, therefore he is my choice. Would rather have a guy playing next to me who would put it all on the line when it mattered.

[Gunnar Longshanks]

You're probably right, but Judd's betrayal makes it hard to give him the accolade over someone like Mainwaring. I'm assuming we are going on more than simply the 'best' player in for a given number, but rather their worth to the club. Or something.Well, is the poll about the best player or your favourite player?

Judd's worth to our club, during his time in the #3 guernsey, still outstripped Mainwaring's.

There's just no way you can honestly avoid voting for Judd in this poll.

He was the man for too long. And then he shafted us. But he was still incredible while at WC.

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Mainy bled blue and gold, therefore he is my choice. Would rather have a guy playing next to me who would put it all on the line when it mattered.Judd put in all on the line when it mattered.

Look at his record in finals.

Anyone who votes Mainwaring is kidding themselves.

[Goldfish]

Guess that's the great thing about a poll, everyone has their own opinions :thumbsu:

[Monocle]

The only reason people could vote Mainwaring is out of respect for a deceased former player and out of bitterness at Judd's betrayal.

If you take out sentiment, it's Judd every day of the week.

I'd like to hear a coherent argument for Mainwaring. Judd was the best player in the comp for three years.

Gunnar sometimes you talk absolute shit. You always try to belittle anyone who doesn't agree with your point of view. To bring Mainwarings death into the debate is a low blow even for you.

One player bleed blue and gold. Was a one Club player who played in two premierships. Was he the best player who played in the number 3 maybe not , but who gave the best service to the club. Who was the best Clubman.

There are different perspectives on this topic.

Judd was in the top four players that have played for our Club. IMO ( Matera, Judd , Jackovich, & Cousins ) . Sensational player and at the top of his game when he played for us. Gave us all a lot of joy.

To dismiss some other opinion based on your perceived assumption of bitterness and loss of life is deplorable.

Some on these boards value loyalty and longevity. You value stardom.

[West Coast 06]

Gunnar sometimes you talk absolute shit. You always try to belittle anyone who doesn't agree with your point of view. To bring Mainwarings death into the debate is a low blow even for you.

One player bleed blue and gold. Was a one Club player who played in two premierships. Was he the best player who played in the number 3 maybe not , but who gave the best service to the club. Who was the best Clubman.

There are different perspectives on this topic.

Judd was in the top four players that have played for our Club. IMO ( Matera, Judd , Jackovich, & Cousins ) . Sensational player and at the top of his game when he played for us. Gave us all a lot of joy.

To dismiss some other opinion based on your perceived assumption of bitterness and loss of life is deplorable.

Some on these boards value loyalty and longevity. You value stardom.
Sums it up for me.

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Gunnar sometimes you talk absolute shit. You always try to belittle anyone who doesn't agree with your point of view. To bring Mainwarings death into the debate is a low blow even for you.
Spare me the spray-on outrage.

I'm just saying that people are voting emotionally. Referring to Mainy as "deceased" is hardly a low blow. Which part of that offends you?

Everyone loves Mainy, and everyone hates Judd.

But Judd was better.

Some on these boards value loyalty and longevity. You value stardom.The poll is about who was the better player.

That's Judd. Hands down.

If the poll was about who you like more, then you could vote for Mainwaring.

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Sums it up for me.So you agree that Juddas was the better player?

You're just voting for Mainwaring because you like him more.

[Black JuJu]

Judd was a better player than Mainy.

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Judd was a better player than Mainy.Oh, but apparently it's all about loyalty and being popular.

Or something.

[Black JuJu]

loyal, popular and dead sadly..

Let it through to the keeper Gunnar, still a sore spot I'd say.

[Monocle]

Spare me the spray-on outrage.

I'm just saying that people are voting emotionally. Referring to Mainy as "deceased" is hardly a low blow. Which part of that offends you?

Everyone loves Mainy, and everyone hates Judd.

But Judd was better.

The poll is about who was the better player.

That's Judd. Hands down.

If the poll was about who you like more, then you could vote for Mainwaring.

Oh I am sorry. I read the title : Best # 3 since 1987.

Didn't see the best PLAYER. bit !!! Did you ?

Where did I say I hated Judd.

As I mentioned earlier gets down to your value system.

[West Coast 06]

So you agree that Juddas was the better player?

You're just voting for Mainwaring because you like him more.
Judd was the better player.

The poll said best #3, I then assume what makes for the "best #3" is up to me to decide. I value loyalty.

Players such as Braun and Wirrapanda have a higher standing in my opinion of them as players as they remained loyal to the club. Just two examples who had just as many, if not more reasons to go home to family than Judd did. They stayed.

As for liking Mainwaring more, I never knew the guy.

[peterss]

Good poll this one.

Mainy for me.....He was blue and gold through and through and im sure he still is in his grave today......As for Juddass well he was great but then betrayed us so he deserves no votes from me.

[jorel6669]

Judd for mine.

Mainwaring was my favourite player growing up. Judd was my favourite as he inherited the #3.

Mainy played his guts out for the club, but it's a bit like comparing Michael Braun to Judd. We know who's better, don't we?

Mainy having passed on should not cloud our judgement here, and neither should Judd leaving us for a filthy, dirt eating, greased up, underhanded, despicable, soulless club, just because his girlfriend wanted better career prospects and so his mum could sing him to bed each night.

[beatlesmith]

define best?
Best player on talent?
Best servant of the club?
etc.

[Prolix]

I voted Judd who was clearly a better player than Mainy (although I like Mainy more).

[jorel6669]

define best?
Best player on talent?
Best servant of the club?
etc.

Best surfer?
Best drunk driver?
Best hairy chest?

Mainy wins! :D

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Oh I am sorry. I read the title : Best # 3 since 1987.

Didn't see the best PLAYER. bit !!! Did you ?
Yeah - so it's about the best player to wear #3.

How else could you possibly interpret it?

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Judd was the better player.

The poll said best #3, I then assume what makes for the "best #3" is up to me to decide. I value loyalty.What a load of BS.

How is "who was the best #3?" different to "who was the best player to wear #3?"

They're the same question.

Judd and Mainwaring both wore #3.

Judd was a better player.

Hence he was the best player to wear #3.

Which part do you disagree with?

[Gunnar Longshanks]

define best?
Best player on talent?
Best servant of the club?
etc.Is this a serious question?

Quite clearly, these polls are about the best players to wear certain numbers.

Why distort something so obvious?

[Gunnar Longshanks]

As for Juddass well he was great but then betrayed us so he deserves no votes from me.Except for the fact Juddas was the better player.

[Alphanumeric]

Have to go with Judd. Best player I have seen.

To be honest I didn't really rate Mainwaring. Didn't put his body on the line, pulled out of alot of contests when he knew he was going to get crunched and just seemed to throw the ball on his boot without really looking to see who was up field.

[jaxxon]

Judd. Brownlow medal, premiership winning captain, Norm Smith medal, multiple club B&F, multiple all Australian. I just dont see how you can argue it any other way.

[larrikin]

Gunnar stop being a jerk. Let others have their opinions.

[Father Jack]

Instead of a poll, lets just put up the players names, their decorations and positions in Sheahans top 50.

But for this poll, I choose to interpret the question they way I want to interpret it, and I choose to go on who I'd most like to see in the number 3. For me, that signifies 'best'.

[CaffeinatedMop]

I suppose it depends on what you determine as "best".
Best player in terms of talent was Judd by a country mile.
Best played in terms of loyalty to his club was Mainwaring.
I voted Judd because I deem that this quiz is asking which is the best player, and the best player was Judd; Mainy was a clubman through and through though.

[heals]

The only reason people could vote Mainwaring is out of respect for a deceased former player and out of bitterness at Judd's betrayal.

If you take out sentiment, it's Judd every day of the week.

I'd like to hear a coherent argument for Mainwaring. Judd was the best player in the comp for three years.

No im not voting for him on any of those reasons. Mainy wore his heart on his sleeve, came back from injurys to play for his team, not one game did he not put in 100%. The man's a champion and i see him as one of the best eagle players ever.

[West Coast 06]

What a load of BS.

How is "who was the best #3?" different to "who was the best player to wear #3?"

They're the same question.

Judd and Mainwaring both wore #3.

Judd was a better player.

Hence he was the best player to wear #3.

Which part do you disagree with?
Truth is I really voted for Mainwaring just to piss you off. Mission accomplished.:thumbsu:

[Masten2McKinley]

judd by a long way, judd is a superstar

[greennick]

For me it depends on how you interpret the question. It is asking for the best #3 who played for the Eagles. Does this mean it is the best player? Does this mean it is the best person to be wearing the number 3, taking into account other factors that go into wearing a jumper for the Eagles?

I voted Judd by a nose. I think those other factors other than a pure "best player" comes into these as we are referencing them to their Eagles jumper number, so these other considerations should come into it. Still, Judd is just that much better that he sneaks ahead for me.

I think the main thing we have all learnt from this thread is that Gunnar is still a wanker. We already knew that some people would want Mainy over Judd, though we all agree Judd is the better player, Mainy was that good otherwise that in some eyes he is better overall.

[Marlin01]

It's funny how life has a way of throwing up strange coincidences, juxtapositions and ironies. I don't think I could come up with any two players that represent greater absolute opposites in the eyes of Eagles fans. Slot Cousins in the middle and you have the full spectrum. I know Cousins isn't involved in this post, but he fits in perfectly as the central point IMO.

Judd - unbelievable ability, but viewed as betraying the club
Cousins - very good ability, great heart, but it could be argued he let the club down to a point.
Mainwaring- as little skill as it is possible to have and still be considered a great AFL player. Unquestionable heart.

[Kerrby04]

agreed with gunnar

even though the title aparently isnt complete, it is still intepreted as the best player.

who was the best in the 90s? carey

he doesnt have the loyalty part, doesnt mean hes not the best


judd is S class.

judd is the best #3

[Big Man]

Does the thread title say, BEST player or Most LOYAL player?

Judd by a fair margain and if Mainy was still here (God Bless his soul) I reckon he would say the same.

[Gunnar Longshanks]

I just think this thread smacks a little bit of pettiness.

Does voting for Mainwaring make people feel better about Judd walking out? Is that your little piece of revenge?

If Judd was still at the club, Mainy wouldn't have a single vote in this poll. Because, deep down, everyone knows Judd was/is better.

Is this the new game? We all pretend to forget how good Judd was? We all pretend to forget that he wasn't the league's best player? We all pretend to forget how many games he won for us? We all pretend that Mainwaring was on the same plain?

Come on. Let's be serious. There's no contest.

That's all I'll say on the matter.

[chrsco]

Yeah, GL, but I see where others are coming from.

I voted Judd, myself, but if you asked Malthouse in the late 90s who was the most important at the time, he would answer Mainy. The reason for this is that in Malthouse's view Mainy sacrificed his game for the team by taking a boggy wing on that GF day and letting Matera play on the firmer wing and, well the rest is history.

[Marlin01]

Yeah, GL, but I see where others are coming from.

I voted Judd, myself, but if you asked Malthouse in the late 90s who was the most important at the time, he would answer Mainy. The reason for this is that in Malthouse's view Mainy sacrificed his game for the team by taking a boggy wing on that GF day and letting Matera play on the firmer wing and, well the rest is history.

Playing on Mainwaring, on a muddy wing, in a GF wouldn't have been much fun.

[Father Jack]

I just think this thread smacks a little bit of pettiness.

Does voting for Mainwaring make people feel better about Judd walking out? Is that your little piece of revenge?

If Judd was still at the club, Mainy wouldn't have a single vote in this poll. Because, deep down, everyone knows Judd was/is better.

Is this the new game? We all pretend to forget how good Judd was? We all pretend to forget that he wasn't the league's best player? We all pretend to forget how many games he won for us? We all pretend that Mainwaring was on the same plain?

Come on. Let's be serious. There's no contest.

That's all I'll say on the matter.

Under no illusions how good Judd, I require no revenge for anything, but as I've said, I think Mainwaring is the most valuable player to wear the number 3, and that is taking into account everything. Walking out included.

But that is why it is a poll, so we can all have our opinion.

[wotdoiput]

Mainy was a club legend and a very good player. Juddy was the best player in the whole comp for a large portion of his time at the Eagles.

Depends if you wanna take into account loyalty etc or just who was the best player to have warn the number 3. I take it as the best player so I chose Judd.

[Ted38]

Chalk and cheese, no comparison Judd by the length of the straight.
And what's all this crap about betrayal? the bloke gave his all for the Club in the time he was here and finished his contract. Don't forget we were extremely lucky to get him in the first place.

[Isandula]

Hard one really but Judd at his best is nearly the best.

[happy_eagle]

the Judd-Meister was a brownlow medalist and a premiership captain

Mainy was a great club man, and a hard worker

But judd takes the cake