Match-ups vs Essendon?

[philhawk]

So who are the danger men?

Lloyd and Lucas are the obvious ones, but who should we be worried about in their midfield?

McVeigh would definitely be one, as would Stanton and Monfries.

Who gets the gig on them?

For mine,

Croad vs Lucas
Brown vs Lloyd
Sewell vs McVeigh
Bateman vs Stanton
Lewis vs Monfries

[Roughie]

I think Brown goes to Lucas he has a great record on him.

Croad to Lloyd

If McPhee is forward, Gilham to McPhee

I agree Sewell to McVeigh

If Bateman starts in the middle he can go one on one with Stanton

I think Roughie will have a big day

[danzan22]

I think Brown goes to Lucas he has a great record on him.

Croad to Lloyd

If McPhee is forward, Gilham to McPhee

I agree Sewell to McVeigh

If Bateman starts in the middle he can go one on one with Stanton

I think Roughie will have a big day
If Mal ever had time to prove he still has it, now is that time. Pace would be no worry and no problems with strength.

I am predicting Franklin to just dominate this match, Ryder is down on form at the moment and i doubt fletch could go with him.

[delirious1]

Brown V Lucas
Croad V Lloyd
Gilham V Mcphee

Have someone running on Mcveigh, ild suggest Osbourne just to niggle him, we know Mcveigh is going though a fustraiting patch, maybe Osbourne can send him over the line.

Leave Sewell+Mitchell and hopefully Hodge to run free and hurt.

Someone to run with Lovetts. they are blokes that can hurt us, if we burn them on the rebound it will be a great win. Bateman possibly just to run with one, give them a clinic how to run hard both ways.

Defense will most likely be

Mal V Roughy
Ryder V Franklin
Slatts V Williams
Fletch to play loose and infront of Franklin.

Keep Bob Campbell to run with Hille, hes a danger-man and in some great form, can kick a goal or two as well.

[Roughie]

If Mal ever had time to prove he still has it, now is that time. Pace would be no worry and no problems with strength.

I am predicting Franklin to just dominate this match, Ryder is down on form at the moment and i doubt fletch could go with him.

Roughie is 5th in the coleman medal race playing 2nd fiddle to Franklin, if the boys pass it to him, he will torch Mal book mark it. He has played on and beaten better defenders this year.

[TylerDurden]

Let them worry about us, esp if Hodge comes back in.

Bring this on...

[Gold Member]

So who are the danger men?

Lloyd and Lucas are the obvious ones, but who should we be worried about in their midfield?

McVeigh would definitely be one, as would Stanton and Monfries. :D


You make me laugh Phil.

I'd only be worried about John Barnes if he's still their runner / zone defender.

[Mervyn Beasley]

So who are the danger men?

Lloyd and Lucas are the obvious ones, but who should we be worried about in their midfield?

McVeigh would definitely be one, as would Stanton and Monfries.

Who gets the gig on them?

For mine,

Croad vs Lucas
Brown vs Lloyd
Sewell vs McVeigh
Bateman vs Stanton
Lewis vs Monfries
Not much need to worry about Monfries Phil he is a spud who generally turns it over when he gets it.

[rioli brownlow]

Not much need to worry about Monfries Phil he is a spud who generally turns it over when he gets it.

that will come back and bit you on the ass.

[Scream]

If Mal ever had time to prove he still has it, now is that time. Pace would be no worry and no problems with strength.

I am predicting Franklin to just dominate this match, Ryder is down on form at the moment and i doubt fletch could go with him.

Roughie is pretty quick for his size..

[bomberstomake8]

Roughie is pretty quick for his size..

i wont think it will be an issue anyway, knights has flagged his intentions to give mal a couple of games in the vfl straight. so i dont htink he will be back for this match..

fletcher vs roughhead
ryder vs franklin

is the only way we should go if we want to have any chance of winning this match.
if brown plays on lucas i hope they actually have some brains this time and just play lucas 1 on 1 in the goalsquare rather then up the ground. brown will beat him up the ground but if its a 1 on 1 contest deep in the 50 brown will struggle.

i think our ins will be neagle and watson for probably pears and hislop (inj).
that depends on whether both watson and neagle are over their injuries.

[philhawk]

that will come back and bit you on the ass.

Will he try a banana kick again?

[Roughie]

Roughie is pretty quick for his size..

Yeaup he always gained yardage on Merrett when they played on eachother, and Daniel Merrett currently owns the Brisbane Lions all time 20metre sprint record so I wouldnt call Roughie a slouch at all he has much improved in his pace.

[Mervyn Beasley]

that will come back and bit you on the ass.
I considered that before typing but am confident in my statement.
A few bomber mates highlighted him to me.
Watching bombers against Swans. 3rd quarter Angus had his 13th touch and 6th clanger. Checked his critical error stats ever since they told me and they are always high.
Same bomber mates have also convinced me that he is a tad on the soft side.

[rioli brownlow]

I considered that before typing but am confident in my statement.
A few bomber mates highlighted him to me.
Watching bombers against Swans. 3rd quarter Angus had his 13th touch and 6th clanger. Checked his critical error stats ever since they told me and they are always high.
Same bomber mates have also convinced me that he is a tad on the soft side.

well you should tell these so called bomber mates to actually get off there asses and come and watch a game if they think monfries is soft.then they will think differently

[rioli brownlow]

Will he try a banana kick again?

maybe

[Roughie]

well you should tell these so called bomber mates to actually get off there asses and come and watch a game if they think monfries is soft.then they will think differently

Can you change your username so a hawk member can have it? Yours obviously goes to no use at all anymore.

[Brown n Gold]

3 L's the main worries for the Hawks

Lloyd - not so much, playing like a spud
Lucas - C Brown's b to the is-itch
Lovett - Serious wheels on this bloke, shame he only turns it on 1 game in 5

Roughy and Fletcher... could turn out to be a very interesting matchup, only advantage for Fletcher is the go go gadgett arms.. which Rough can combat with his go go gadgett SPRINGS in his legs...

ROUGHY HAS HOPS!!!

[Smyth94]

Honestly, you guys currently are a far superior team, although playing at the Dome does give me some hope (What is your record there anyway?)

The only match-ups I can see that might trouble Hawthorn is Winderlich (torched Johncock); Hille when he goes forward and McPhee might cause a headache

Don't worry though, IMO you have far too much experience and class for us through the middle.

[Mervyn Beasley]

well you should tell these so called bomber mates to actually get off there asses and come and watch a game if they think monfries is soft.then they will think differently
Not my job to convince them to go to see the bombers, even though they attend fairly regularly anyway.
FWIW IMO I think there is an upside for Angus, however, i thought he might have come on a bit more by now.
That said I'm still not worried about him this week.

[Mervyn Beasley]

Can you change your username so a hawk member can have it? Yours obviously goes to no use at all anymore.
LOL I was wondering why he was supporting Monfries so much too. Double checked and noticed he was supporting the fat rioli;)

[seshak08]

I considered that before typing but am confident in my statement.
A few bomber mates highlighted him to me.
Watching bombers against Swans. 3rd quarter Angus had his 13th touch and 6th clanger. Checked his critical error stats ever since they told me and they are always high.
Same bomber mates have also convinced me that he is a tad on the soft side.

monfries isn't soft! you have got to be kidding me!
he won the most courageous player award at Essendon in 2006!
think about that. dont underestimate him!

[Mervyn Beasley]

monfries isn't soft! you have got to be kidding me!
he won the most courageous player award at Essendon in 2006!
think about that. dont underestimate him!
I should have said they have spent a long time trying to convince me.
I dont necessarily think it.
I have researched his critical error column weekly though and it is generally fairly high. Rarely gets very far over 15 touches. Qtr of them usually clangers. Thus I dont rate him as a danger. Thats all.

[High Ryder]

I should have said they have spent a long time trying to convince me.
I dont necessarily think it.
I have researched his critical error column weekly though and it is generally fairly high. Rarely gets very far over 15 touches. Qtr of them usually clangers. Thus I dont rate him as a danger. Thats all.
He isn't in our top 10 players....

The likes of Houli and Lonergan should concern you more.

[Boyler_Room]

that will come back and bit you on the ass.

Nope, Monfires already lost you a game against us when he tried to checkside a shot at goal when he was 20 metres out on a slight angle and missed everything. We went on to win by less than a goal.

So even if he has a blinder we are still ahead.

[Henry Jr]

Despite Browny's great record on Lucas, I would start Browny on McPee.

Gilham on Lucas and Croad on Lloyd.

That releases Birchall who seems to be the play maker back there at the moment without Goo and Hodge.

[CAPTAINCRAWF]

I actually have a bit of a feeling that suggess Essendon might be a little spent after last weeks effort against Adelaide. They looked like they through everything bar the kitchen sink at the Crows towards the end. I think with players waiting to come back in to the Hawks line up will again build pressure on our playing group to perform and we will see a much more despearte effort this week.:thumbsu:
Like most weeks with the Hawks. if our midfield dominates we will win comfortably and sadly for the Bombers I think we will be far too strong in this department. I think both Lloyd & Lucas will play a fair way up the ground after quarter time this week. I hope Sewell goes back to a purely tagging role which will increase the midfiel pressure.

Brown - Lloyd
Croad - Lucas
Fletcher - Franklin
McPhee - Roughead
Birchall loose man

[rioli brownlow]

Nope, Monfires already lost you a game against us when he tried to checkside a shot at goal when he was 20 metres out on a slight angle and missed everything. We went on to win by less than a goal.

So even if he has a blinder we are still ahead.

yeah but i still get a chuckle over pretty boy croads kick that hit the post in 2001 prelim that gave us the victory and put yous on your end of season trip.
oh yes his name is MONFRIES not MONFIRES. gee i hope there are not too many hawk supporters like you that can't spell.

[rioli brownlow]

LOL I was wondering why he was supporting Monfries so much too. Double checked and noticed he was supporting the fat rioli;)

was just as good a player as the skinnyboney one will be though

[Mojo]

yeah but i still get a chuckle over pretty boy croads kick that hit the post in 2001 prelim that gave us the victory and put yous on your end of season trip.
oh yes his name is MONFRIES not MONFIRES. gee i hope there are not too many hawk supporters like you that can't spell.

Petty much?

[Hodgepodge]

watch for bomber supporters to say that ryder beat buddy if he kicks less than 8 goals.

[Boyler_Room]

As much as it annoys me OCD McPhee is actaully playing well for Essendon. He is one to watch. Lucas is probably a week or two from his best coming back from injury.

[Roughie]

watch for bomber supporters to say that ryder beat buddy if he kicks less than 8 goals.

Suppoesdly he has been beaten twice this year once by Garland and once by Williams :rolleyes:

5 goals on Williams

3 on Garland.

Now the 3 on Garland may look like an achievement but for the ones like us who watched the game, it was more of a point of our midfield not giving enough football to Franklin and our mids being strangled rather then Garland spoiling everything in sight.

Franko hasnt been beaten this year at all.

[kbrowne]

As much as it annoys me OCD McPhee is actaully playing well for Essendon. He is one to watch. Lucas is probably a week or two from his best coming back from injury.

He is, it's just that he could be Nick Riewolt's evil twin

[FriarTuck]

Gilly to Lloyd. Dont care if Lloyed kicks ten. Gilly needs to harden up and beat an opponent one on one.

The rest of the match ups are pretty meaningless.

[19 mitch thorp]

ryder to go to Buddy
fletcher to roughy
gilham to mcphee
brown to lucas
croad to Lloyd

[Smyth94]

watch for bomber supporters to say that ryder beat buddy if he kicks less than 8 goals.


lol...Honestly, the way he's playing now anything less than 5 goals could be considered a win for any defender, let alone Ryder.

[MilhouseVanJohn]

The match-ups at either end in this match will be very interesting...having said that, i don't think it really matters what essendon try, hawks should be able to keep mixing it up and dominate the midfield.

For ess, i'd go In: Michael, Neagle and Watson...Out: Pears, Hislop and Slattery.

Michael on Roughie, Fletch on Williams, Jetta like a glove on Rioli, and Ryder on Franklin.

I'd have Lloyd, Lucas, Neagle and McPhee starting as forwards and try to stretch the hawks (which prob won't happen if the midfield gets thrashed).

Problem is the resting ruck. Lazycock is Lazy and can't be played until he proves he cares and is prepared to go to battle for this club, and Bellchambers is not ready (so i'm led to believe).
Therefore will have to put Ryder into the ruck at some stage each quarter, which means put Fletch to Ryder (hopefully fit enough to keep up for 6 or 7 mins a quarter), and move Welsh to Williams...Welsh would have to play Williams from 5 or 10 mtrs in front and hope he doesn't get used as a launching pad, as he won't go with him on the lead if they start side by side.

If the midfield can compete, it could work out well enough to give us some hope, but that's a big if.
Would be a huge help to our structure v hawks if Lazycock actually gave a shit and we could pick him to rotate off the bench.

Good luck to both sides, but not Hawthorn!

[#6 Mark Williams]

Disagree with Monfries he's as weak as Mathew Lloyd.

[#6 Mark Williams]

Roughie is 5th in the coleman medal race playing 2nd fiddle to Franklin, if the boys pass it to him, he will torch Mal book mark it. He has played on and beaten better defenders this year.*Pulls out the bookmark*, *Pretends to put bookmark in Bigfoot thread*, Nah just joking Rougnuts going to have a field day.

[philhawk]

I hope McPhee plays on Franklin.

Please make it happen, Knights.

I'll respect you forever. :)

[#6 Mark Williams]

Nope, Monfires already lost you a game against us when he tried to checkside a shot at goal when he was 20 metres out on a slight angle and missed everything. We went on to win by less than a goal.

So even if he has a blinder we are still ahead.That was the game when Williams kicked the winning goal!!!

[Smyth94]

I hope McPhee plays on Franklin.

Please make it happen, Knights.

I'll respect you forever. :)


Bwahahaha...Sorry Phil, not this time, I was actually watching the highlights of Buddy's 9 goals against us and his 5 in the 2nd quarter all came on McPhee.

It's either Old Man Fletch or Paddy.

[badius]

Disagree with Monfries he's as weak as Mathew Lloyd.

Agree with you, Willo. Goes to the Matthew Lloyd school of diving too! I hear he is dux of the class.

[Boyler_Room]

yeah but i still get a chuckle over pretty boy croads kick that hit the post in 2001 prelim that gave us the victory and put yous on your end of season trip.
oh yes his name is MONFRIES not MONFIRES. gee i hope there are not too many hawk supporters like you that can't spell.

Yep my post was going for most accurately spelt post in BF history and you have pointed out how I failed. If only you worried about the accuracy of your players kicking as much as you are some stupid spelling on here and like I care if I spell one of your players name wrong. Insignificant.

When I think about Croad's kick which was from about 60m and hit the post half way up, Monfries crap kick checkside is monumentaly worse. You guys won by 9 in the end anyway and the thing I think from the 2001 prelim that would be close to Monfries gaff would be when your man Goldspink over-ruled a goal umpire.

[Boyler_Room]

That was the game when Williams kicked the winning goal!!!

That it was, 50m kick straight through the sticks with a frigin wet ball. One of my favorite moments in footy and definitely top 5 in games I've been to. The other 4 are from our elimination final last year.

[dougthelegend]

I should have said they have spent a long time trying to convince me.
I dont necessarily think it.
I have researched his critical error column weekly though and it is generally fairly high. Rarely gets very far over 15 touches. Qtr of them usually clangers. Thus I dont rate him as a danger. Thats all.

Can mostly be explained by the fact he is and always as been a skinny runt.
Has plenty of talent and courage, but needs time.

Seriously, not many players for you guys to worry about.
Lloyd is out of form, Lucas is rusty after so long out, Stanton can't handle a tag (will be a worry if you let him run free though)...
McVeigh is a little out of touch, but will bounce back and is the only midfielder that should concern you in the slightest.
Winderlich and Lovett can turn it on, but with little to no support even if they have blinders it'll be cameos with no impact on the result.

Houli is playing well, and Lonegran goes hard... but we don't have either the depth of talent through the middle, or the elite ability in the top few that you guys have. We may look dangerous in patches, but over the match your midfield will be far too strong and will give Franklin and Roughead a day out.

Mitchell to get 35+ touches and Franklin 12goals, Hawthorn to win by 50-80.

[rioli brownlow]

Yep my post was going for most accurately spelt post in BF history and you have pointed out how I failed. If only you worried about the accuracy of your players kicking as much as you are some stupid spelling on here and like I care if I spell one of your players name wrong. Insignificant.

When I think about Croad's kick which was from about 60m and hit the post half way up, Monfries crap kick checkside is monumentaly worse. You guys won by 9 in the end anyway and the thing I think from the 2001 prelim that would be close to Monfries gaff would be when your man Goldspink over-ruled a goal umpire.
why do hawthorn people never accept being beaten by a better side? they always have to blame the umpires. oh well pity help the 3 men umpiring on saturday night cause come sunday morning the BOYLER BOY
WILL GIVE YOU A RIGHT OLD SERVE

[Boyler_Room]

yeah but i still get a chuckle over pretty boy croads kick that hit the post in 2001 prelim that gave us the victory and put yous on your end of season trip.
oh yes his name is MONFRIES not MONFIRES. gee i hope there are not too many hawk supporters like you that can't spell.

why do hawthorn people never accept being beaten by a better side? they always have to blame the umpires. oh well pity help the 3 men umpiring on saturday night cause come sunday morning the BOYLER BOY
WILL GIVE YOU A RIGHT OLD SERVE

A moment ago you were saying we were beaten by a goal post, which one is it? We were the underdogs in that game against the best team ever, which could only string 1 premiership together.

I find it funnier that you guys were smashed after that game and couldn't put up a fight the next week. We would have pushed Brisbane.

[rioli brownlow]

A moment ago you were saying we were beaten by a goal post, which one is it? We were the underdogs in that game against the best team ever, which could only string 1 premiership together.

I find it funnier that you guys were smashed after that game and couldn't put up a fight the next week. We would have pushed Brisbane.

if you actually looked at the scores quarter by quarter b4 you mouth off, you would of seen that we were in front at half time ,only to be beaten in the second half. so i think that we did put up a fight. and you say you would of pushed brisbane! well you could not even get pasted us so how would you know if you would of .