Buddy's developing place on the All-Time Ladder

[Guardian Hawk]

Hey fellow Hawks, as someone who has spent most working days reading these boards but rarely posting, you may not know me (my first thread);

Anyway, as someone who enjoys the little things about our game and most importantly, the feats of Hawthorn players, I was toying with a (somewhat trivial) idea. I thought I would post, week-by-week, Buudy's place on the Alltime VFL/AFL Goalkicking list, so we can see him overtake our favourite/hated/current players and see the unfolding of what place in history he takes.

For example, this week:

Buddy moved to # 408 on the All-Time List with 175 goals

This week he overtook:
409 174 Alves, S.266 1965 Melbourne/Nth Melb
410 174 Bruns, N.223 1978 Geelong
411 174 Richardson, M.156 1983 Collingwood/Essendon/Bris Bears
412 174 Bayes, M.246 1985 Sydney
413 174 Gleeson, A. 176 1986 Carlton
414 174 Hall, T. 114 1988 Hawthorn/Adelaide
415 174 Lappin, N.* 279 1994 Bris Lions/Bris Bears
416 173 Mensch, D. 158 1992 Geelong
417 172 Bairstow, M. 146 1987 Geelong
418 172 Campbell, W. 297 1991 Richmond
419 172 Johnson, C. 264 1994 Bris Lions/Fitzroy
420 171 Cooper, R. 159 1932 Carlton/Nth Melb
421 171 Ross, J. 139 1946 St Kilda
422 171 Branton, R. 170 1953 Richmond
423 171 McGowan, B. 118 1955 Sth Melb
424 171 Elshaug, T. 137 1979 Melbourne/Essendon/Collingwood
425 171 Buhagiar, T. 108 1981 Essendon/Footscray
426 171 Heatley, J. 63 1995 West Coast/St Kilda
427 170 Harvey, M. 206 1984 Essendon
428 170 Broderick, P. 262 1988 Fitzroy/Richmond
429 170 Edwards, T.* 276 1995 Adelaide
430 170 Mooney, C.* 153 1999 Geelong/Kangaroos

Is this a something you guys are interested in? I can do it anyway you like, say 3 players above and below? only when he ovetakes current players? Hawks? Big names? etc.

If this is boring, that's fine too!

[Leather Poisoning]

Hey fellow Hawks, as someone who has spent most working days reading these boards but rarely posting, you may not know me (my first thread);

Anyway, as someone who enjoys the little things about our game and most importantly, the feats of Hawthorn players, I was toying with a (somewhat trivial) idea. I thought I would post, week-by-week, Buudy's place on the Alltime VFL/AFL Goalkicking list, so we can see him overtake our favourite/hated/current players and see the unfolding of what place in history he takes.

For example, this week:

Buddy moved to # 408 on the All-Time List with 175 goals

This week he overtook:
409 174 Alves, S.266 1965 Melbourne/Nth Melb
410 174 Bruns, N.223 1978 Geelong
411 174 Richardson, M.156 1983 Collingwood/Essendon/Bris Bears
412 174 Bayes, M.246 1985 Sydney
413 174 Gleeson, A. 176 1986 Carlton
414 174 Hall, T. 114 1988 Hawthorn/Adelaide
415 174 Lappin, N.* 279 1994 Bris Lions/Bris Bears
416 173 Mensch, D. 158 1992 Geelong
417 172 Bairstow, M. 146 1987 Geelong
418 172 Campbell, W. 297 1991 Richmond
419 172 Johnson, C. 264 1994 Bris Lions/Fitzroy
420 171 Cooper, R. 159 1932 Carlton/Nth Melb
421 171 Ross, J. 139 1946 St Kilda
422 171 Branton, R. 170 1953 Richmond
423 171 McGowan, B. 118 1955 Sth Melb
424 171 Elshaug, T. 137 1979 Melbourne/Essendon/Collingwood
425 171 Buhagiar, T. 108 1981 Essendon/Footscray
426 171 Heatley, J. 63 1995 West Coast/St Kilda
427 170 Harvey, M. 206 1984 Essendon
428 170 Broderick, P. 262 1988 Fitzroy/Richmond
429 170 Edwards, T.* 276 1995 Adelaide
430 170 Mooney, C.* 153 1999 Geelong/Kangaroos

Is this a something you guys are interested in? I can do it anyway you like, say 3 players above and below? only when he ovetakes current players? Hawks? Big names? etc.

If this is boring, that's fine too!

Mate this is the place for all things football, so go right ahead.

Would like to see who he's catching up to!

Great Bay 13 ammo.

[The TACHawks]

Wow, he's gone past Tony hall, one of my favourites at 21!!

[Guardian Hawk]

Mate this is the place for all things football, so go right ahead.

Would like to see who he's catching up to!

Great Bay 13 ammo.

Sure, say all players within 5 goals, or the next 10 current players he will catch?

FWIW (sneak preview),
next current players to be left in his wake;

# 396 S.Johnson 178 goals
# 394 B.Holland (Mel) 178
# 388 P.Chapman 180
# 373 C.Jones 184
# 371 Q.Lynch 185

[Buddy Hero]

Good thread :thumbsu:
Hopefully thats not the only M Richardson he over takes :D

[Mervyn Beasley]

Go for it.
Not sure though if it might be better on Hawk Board to keep idiots out, but if you are not a regular poster/thread starter you may not have access.
:thumbsu:

[Forzaport]

As an outsider, i'd be interested. Keep em coming.

[Hodgepodge]

Love it

[jaydub]

How kind and polite is Guardian Hawk?:thumbsu::thumbsu:
Keep it up, t'is a great idea!

[noosa hawk mad]

Good idea mate love the stats Guardian Hawk:thumbsu:

[Flamin Joe]

Great idea. :thumbsu:

Out of interest, where do you go to get stats like this?

[moginie]

Great idea.
God only knows where Buddy or this thread will be in 10 years time.

[DynamoUltra]

- he has more goals than C. Mooney. LOL.

[andrepetz]

No shit - he has more goals than C. Mooney. LOL.

Well considering he played a lot of his career in defence........

[Thaihawk]

Very interesting stats. Keep it going.

[The Cryptkeeper]

This is a brilliant thread.

It should be stickied.:thumbsu:

[Guardian Hawk]

Thanks very much for the appraisals guys!

I'll do it week by week, listing who he has overtaken.

Figure it will be more fun to see which names come up and how many places he moves once it happens, rather than watching him eventually catch up to someone.

If you have better suggestions (please be specific) then post 'em up!


Great idea. :thumbsu:

Out of interest, where do you go to get stats like this?

Was after them for a while, then found them in the nether regions of allthestats.com (records section)- this is a pretty comprehensive site for those of us that are footy obssessed.

[Hodgepodge]

361 187 Eason, B. 220 1902 Geelong
362 187 McNamara, D. 122 1905 St Kilda
363 187 McGuinness, T. 222 1986 Footscray/Adelaide
364 187 Bruce, C.* 172 2000 Melbourne
365 187 Didak, A.* 130 2001 Collingwood
366 186 Davie, H. 58 1924 Melbourne/Carlton
367 186 Lewis, D. 182 1990 Sydney
368 186 Burgoyne, P.* 219 1997 Port Adel
369 186 Lynch, Q.* 117 2002 West Coast
370 185 Johnstone, N. 228 1944 Fitzroy
371 185 Lord, A. 150 1994 Geelong/Hawthorn
372 184 Duperouzel, B. 164 1974 St Kilda/Footscray
373 184 Jones, C.* 136 2001 Kangaroos/Nth Melb
374 184 Franklin, L.* 67 0 Hawthorn
375 183 Darcy, L. 226 1994 Footscray/W Bulldogs
376 182 Flanagan, F. 163 1946 Geelong
377 182 Townsend, J. 153 1962 Melbourne
378 182 Waters, T. 163 1963 Collingwood
379 182 Daffy, N. 166 1992 Richmond/Sydney
380 181 Merrick, B. 59 1919 Fitzroy

There's a massive logjam at this part of the list, he'll probably jump 20 spots next week

[BuddyTwoThree]

361 187 Eason, B. 220 1902 Geelong
362 187 McNamara, D. 122 1905 St Kilda
363 187 McGuinness, T. 222 1986 Footscray/Adelaide
364 187 Bruce, C.* 172 2000 Melbourne
365 187 Didak, A.* 130 2001 Collingwood
366 186 Davie, H. 58 1924 Melbourne/Carlton
367 186 Lewis, D. 182 1990 Sydney
368 186 Burgoyne, P.* 219 1997 Port Adel
369 186 Lynch, Q.* 117 2002 West Coast
370 185 Johnstone, N. 228 1944 Fitzroy
371 185 Lord, A. 150 1994 Geelong/Hawthorn
372 184 Duperouzel, B. 164 1974 St Kilda/Footscray
373 184 Jones, C.* 136 2001 Kangaroos/Nth Melb
374 184 Franklin, L.* 67 0 Hawthorn
375 183 Darcy, L. 226 1994 Footscray/W Bulldogs
376 182 Flanagan, F. 163 1946 Geelong
377 182 Townsend, J. 153 1962 Melbourne
378 182 Waters, T. 163 1963 Collingwood
379 182 Daffy, N. 166 1992 Richmond/Sydney
380 181 Merrick, B. 59 1919 Fitzroy

There's a massive logjam at this part of the list, he'll probably jump 20 spots next week

Interested to see Bob Merrick (3 goals less from 8 games less) and Harry Davie (2 goals more from 9 games less) in the lower-scoring eras of the 1910's and 20's. Those guys must've been good!

[Hodgepodge]

Interested to see Bob Merrick (3 goals less from 8 games less) and Harry Davie (2 goals more from 9 games less) in the lower-scoring eras of the 1910's and 20's. Those guys must've been good!

certainly got good stats, hard to say how the game was being played back then though, 59 games is a very short career considering the goals being kicked, must've done a knee or something which would've been career-ending at that time.

[Buddy Hero]

i spose roughy is still too deep in the pack to worry about how many people he is overtaking but can we show him some love and keep his position up to date each week too? :thumbsu:

[Thrust]

Does this have stats like fastest time to reach a set number of goals?

IE. When he reaches 200 goals will he have done it in less games than lloyd, dunstall, hudson, coleman, plugga etc?

that would be interesting

[phreeze77]

Peter Sumich Kicked something like 45,90,111 in his first 3 seasons in the AFL.

Something I picked up from watching the 1991 Grand Final again.

[The Cryptkeeper]

Peter Sumich Kicked something like 45,90,111 in his first 3 seasons in the AFL.

Something I picked up from watching the 1991 Grand Final again.

He was borderline great Sumich and his name often gets lost in discussions surrounding the great forwards of his era.

He was a gun alright.

[Hodgepodge]

so many great full forwards in the 90s . . . buddy may be the only man to kick 100 in a season this decade!

[ipk086]

Great thread ! Love stats :D

[FisherHawk]

Good thread mate. Well done :thumbsu:

I can't believe he's about to pass Q Lynch. Buddy has 67 games (182 goals) to Lynch's 117 and 186 goals.

Here's some more silly stats.

At this rate, Buddy will have 319 goals by 117 games. And that’s assuming he will only travel at his career avg of 2.74 goals per game between now and then. If he continued his current 08 avg of 5.36, he would have 450 goals at the 117 game mark.

That would make him in 57th spot for the most goals ever at the age of 23. Only 14 goals behind Dermie.

Buddy should join the 200 club by round 16.

Now that would be an amazing effort considering Hudson had about 498 goals after 117 games:eek:.

The only difference is that Huddo has done it. Buddy has yet to do it.

[Guardian Hawk]

Well, it seems I've been beaten to the punch...was waiting for the melbourne & collingwood scores to update but regardless,

Buddy is in the top 400 of all time!

Catapulting himself 34 places this week to # 374-his biggest jump in a long time

He is #27 at Hawthorn (just 8 goals behind a recent FF)

This is who he has surpassed this week, a couple of big names...

375 183 Darcy, L. 226 1994 Footscray/W Bulldogs
376 182 Flanagan, F. 163 1946 Geelong
377 182 Townsend, J. 153 1962 Melbourne
378 182 Waters, T. 163 1963 Collingwood
379 182 Daffy, N. 166 1992 Richmond/Sydney
380 181 Merrick, B. 59 1919 Fitzroy
381 181 Brittingham, B. 172 1943 Essendon
382 181 Johnson, S.* 98 2002 Geelong
383 180 Caine, F. 102 1905 Carlton/Essendon
384 180 Strang, D. 64 1931 Richmond
385 180 Williams, B. 124 1945 Sth Melb
386 180 Clarke, J. 263 1951 Essendon
387 180 Adams, F. 164 1953 Melbourne
388 180 Pickering, M. 157 1961 Nth Melb/Richmond/Melbourne
389 180 McConville, P. 194 1978 Carlton/St Kilda
390 180 Chapman, P.* 145 2000 Geelong
391 179 Galt, R. 123 1971 St Kilda/Carlton
392 179 Kickett, D. 152 1989 Nth Melb/Essendon/Sydney
393 179 Ablett, G.* 135 2002 Geelong
394 178 Collins, A. 99 1939 Footscray
395 178 McCarthy, J. 163 1986 Nth Melb/Fitzroy
396 178 Starcevich, C. 144 1987 Collingwood/Bris Bears
397 178 Holland, B.* 190 1996 Richmond/Melbourne
398 178 Waterhouse, C. 106 1996 Fremantle
399 177 Hart, S. 273 1990 Bris Bears/Bris Lions
400 177 Pickett, B. 204 1997 Port Adel/Melbourne/Nth Melb
401 177 Mooney, C.* 154 1999 Geelong/Kangaroos
402 176 Sudholz, J. 86 1966 Sth Melb
403 176 Judge, K. 89 1983 Hawthorn/Bris Bears
404 175 Rowell, T. 189 1901 Collingwood
405 175 Hughes, L. 225 1908 Collingwood
406 175 Libbis, B. 178 1925 Collingwood/Melbourne
407 175 Teasdale, G. 141 1973 Richmond/Sth Melb/Collingwood
408 175 Jess, J. 223 1976 Richmond
409 175 Scott, M. 78 1978 Hawthorn/St Kilda/Fitzroy

[Buddy Hero]

bahaha
mooney again!
brilliant :D

[thatswhatimtalkinabout]

Good thread mate. Well done :thumbsu:

I can't believe he's about to pass Q Lynch. Buddy has 67 games (182 goals) to Lynch's 117 and 186 goals.

Here's some more silly stats.

At this rate, Buddy will have 319 goals by 117 games. And that’s assuming he will only travel at his career avg of 2.74 goals per game between now and then. If he continued his current 08 avg of 5.36, he would have 450 goals at the 117 game mark.

That would make him in 57th spot for the most goals ever at the age of 23. Only 14 goals behind Dermie.

Buddy should join the 200 club by round 16.

Now that would be an amazing effort considering Hudson had about 498 goals after 117 games:eek:.

The only difference is that Huddo has done it. Buddy has yet to do it.

Buddy's ave goals per season;

2005 - 1.1 per game
2006 - 2.2 per game
2007 - 3.3 per game
2008 - 5.3 per game.

While their is no doubt that the current rules favor the forward and we should all recognise that Buddy still has plenty of room for improvement, it's a wonderful start.

But looking at that stat for Suma earlier, it pays to keep a lid on things and deal with what we know and what is done - not what might or should happen.

[Guardian Hawk]

Buddy moved just the 2 places this week (+ Chappy shaded again)

Up to # 372 (And equal with Aaron Lord)

373 184 Duperouzel, B. 164 1974 St Kilda/Footscray
374 184 Chapman, P.* 146 2000 Geelong
375 184 Jones, C.* 136 2001 Kangaroos/Nth Melb

[Buddy the Brave]

Buddy's ave goals per season;

2005 - 1.1 per game
2006 - 2.2 per game
2007 - 3.3 per game
2008 - 5.3 per game.

While their is no doubt that the current rules favor the forward and we should all recognise that Buddy still has plenty of room for improvement, it's a wonderful start.

But looking at that stat for Suma earlier, it pays to keep a lid on things and deal with what we know and what is done - not what might or should happen.

It should be noted that Sumich was 21 years of age in his first season having played senior footy at WAFL level, the same age as Buddy is now. So more realistically Sumich 45, Buddy 60 and counting:D

[buddyhawks23]

can mods make this thread a sticky ?

im bumping it back up
i think it is a great idea,
and something that shouldnt go unnoticed

great to keep a track of buddys progress

[apiro]

Hey fellow Hawks, as someone who has spent most working days reading these boards but rarely posting, you may not know me (my first thread);

Anyway, as someone who enjoys the little things about our game and most importantly, the feats of Hawthorn players, I was toying with a (somewhat trivial) idea. I thought I would post, week-by-week, Buudy's place on the Alltime VFL/AFL Goalkicking list, so we can see him overtake our favourite/hated/current players and see the unfolding of what place in history he takes.

For example, this week:

Buddy moved to # 408 on the All-Time List with 175 goals

This week he overtook:
409 174 Alves, S.266 1965 Melbourne/Nth Melb
410 174 Bruns, N.223 1978 Geelong
411 174 Richardson, M.156 1983 Collingwood/Essendon/Bris Bears
412 174 Bayes, M.246 1985 Sydney
413 174 Gleeson, A. 176 1986 Carlton
414 174 Hall, T. 114 1988 Hawthorn/Adelaide
415 174 Lappin, N.* 279 1994 Bris Lions/Bris Bears
416 173 Mensch, D. 158 1992 Geelong
417 172 Bairstow, M. 146 1987 Geelong
418 172 Campbell, W. 297 1991 Richmond
419 172 Johnson, C. 264 1994 Bris Lions/Fitzroy
420 171 Cooper, R. 159 1932 Carlton/Nth Melb
421 171 Ross, J. 139 1946 St Kilda
422 171 Branton, R. 170 1953 Richmond
423 171 McGowan, B. 118 1955 Sth Melb
424 171 Elshaug, T. 137 1979 Melbourne/Essendon/Collingwood
425 171 Buhagiar, T. 108 1981 Essendon/Footscray
426 171 Heatley, J. 63 1995 West Coast/St Kilda
427 170 Harvey, M. 206 1984 Essendon
428 170 Broderick, P. 262 1988 Fitzroy/Richmond
429 170 Edwards, T.* 276 1995 Adelaide
430 170 Mooney, C.* 153 1999 Geelong/Kangaroos

Is this a something you guys are interested in? I can do it anyway you like, say 3 players above and below? only when he ovetakes current players? Hawks? Big names? etc.

If this is boring, that's fine too!

This is good stuff Guardian, please keep it up each week.

Just as it is here is great.

Nice to have additions from my perspective is his position on Hawks list and alert when this changes. Also, who's ahead of him on table, say next 10.

[Guardian Hawk]

Buddy still at #372, overtaking the footballers below, but being caught by Chapman and Jones (the battle is on!)

373 185 Johnstone, N. 228 1944 Fitzroy
374 185 Lord, A. 150 1994 Geelong/Hawthorn

Apiro, these are the next ten:
362 189 Didak, A.* 133 2001 Collingwood
363 188 Hands, K. 211 1945 Carlton
364 187 Eason, B. 220 1902 Geelong
365 187 McNamara, D. 122 1905 St Kilda
366 187 McGuinness, T. 222 1986 Footscray/Adelaide
367 186 Davie, H. 58 1924 Melbourne/Carlton
368 186 Lewis, D. 182 1990 Sydney
369 186 Burgoyne, P.* 221 1997 Port Adel
370 186 Jones, C.* 137 2001 Kangaroos/Nth Melb
371 186 Lynch, Q.* 119 2002 West Coast

(Doing battle with Lynch this week)

This year, he has overtaken these Hawtrhorn goalkickers:
moving from #42 to #27
28 167 Green, J. 40 1934 Hawthorn
29 164 Young, G. 108 1956 Hawthorn
30 164 Martello, A. 223 1970 Hawthorn
31 159 Chick, D. 149 1996 Hawthorn
32 158 Judge, K. 72 1983 Hawthorn
33 145 Bohan, J. 131 1938 Hawthorn
34 144 Hall, T. 97 1988 Hawthorn
35 142 Ryan, J. 70 1929 Hawthorn
36 136 Lord, A. 93 1997 Hawthorn
37 135 Ablett, G. 202 1973 Hawthorn
38 133 Scott, D. 302 1967 Hawthorn
39 130 Dipierdomenico, R. 240 1975 Hawthorn
40 129 Goad, A. 138 1972 Hawthorn
41 129 Croad, T.* 172 1998 Hawthorn

[Hodgepodge]

Can somebody update the ladder?

[Boyler_Room]

No shit - he has more goals than C. Mooney. LOL.

Well considering he played a lot of his career in defence........

Wow. That explains a lot.

[Hodgepodge]

I certainly cannot find the goalkicking ladder @ allthestats.com anymore, apart from the top 100 goalkickers . . .

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

can mods make this thread a sticky ?

im bumping it back up
i think it is a great idea,
and something that shouldnt go unnoticed

great to keep a track of buddys progress

Agreed, I love it.


The memories also come flooding back of yester-year players that he passes.

[Hodgepodge]

if anybody can find the goalkicking ladder of all time, please slap me a link.

[MickyCrow]

This is an excellent thread. Well done to the dude doing it. I will be constantly vistiting this over the years (hopefully)

I may be an opposition supporter, but Im not one of these idiots who enjoy hanging shit on Buddy, I know hes going to be a champion of the game, and enjoy watching him at all times

It will be enjoyable watching him overtake the games greats over the years

Once again cheers and well done :thumbsu:

[Ron The Bear]

After 69 games:

Rnk Player . . . . . . . Cb Year Gls
------------------------------------
. 1 Peter Hudson . . . . Ha 1970 388
. 2 John Coleman . . . . Es 1952 355
. 3 Sel Murray . . . . . Ka 1941 289
. 4 Ron Todd . . . . . . Co 1939 284
. 5 George Moloney . . . Ge 1934 279
. 6 Tony Modra . . . . . Ad 1996 278
.=7 Fred Fanning . . . . Me 1946 264
.=7 Michael Roach . . . .Ri 1981 264
.=7 Mark Jackson . . . . Ge 1984 264
.10 Jack Moriarty . . . .Fi 1927 262
.11 Peter McKenna . . . .Co 1970 261
.12 George Margitich . . Me 1934 259
.13 Lindsay White . . . .Ge 1945 258
.14 Brian Taylor . . . . Co 1986 257
.15 Simon Beasley . . . .WB 1985 255
.16 Bob Pratt . . . . . .Sy 1934 254
.17 Peter Sumich . . . . WC 1992 249
.18 Jason Dunstall . . . Ha 1988 248
.19 George Goninon . . . Ge 1953 247
.20 Warwick Capper . . . Sy 1987 244
.21 Saverio Rocca . . . .Co 1995 241
.22 Bill Mohr . . . . . .St 1932 237
.23 Claude Curtin . . . .Fi 1946 236
.24 Kelvin Templeton . . WB 1978 234
=25 Doug Wade . . . . . .Ge 1965 232
=25 Gary Ablett . . . . .Ge 1987 232
.27 Tom Reynolds . . . . Es 1941 229
=28 Eddie Hart . . . . . Fi 1950 226
=28 Tony Lockett . . . . St 1986 226
=30 Jock Spencer . . . . Ka 1951 222
=30 Simon Minton-Connell Ha 1995 222
=30 Matthew Richardson . Ri 1997 222
.33 Bill Wood . . . . . .WB 1948 219
=34 Horrie Clover . . . .Ca 1924 215
=34 William Young . . . .St 1960 215
=34 John Longmire . . . .Ka 1991 215
.37 Ted E.Johnson . . . .Sy 1927 212
.38 Larry Donohue . . . .Ge 1978 211
=39 Dick Lee . . . . . . Co 1910 208
=39 Paul Schmidt . . . . Ca 1942 208
.41 Bert Hyde . . . . . .Ha 1930 206
.42 Norm Smith . . . . . Me 1939 204
.43 Jimmy Freake . . . . Fi 1915 203
.44 Cliff Rankin . . . . Ge 1923 202
.45 Matthew Lloyd . . . .Es 1999 201
.46 Darren Bennett . . . Me 1992 198
.47 Bob Beecroft . . . . Fi 1979 196
=48 Dick Harris . . . . .Ri 1937 192
=48 Des Fothergill . . . Co 1940 192
=48 Alex Jesaulenko . . .Ca 1970 192
=51 Alby Morrison . . . .WB 1932 189
=51 Peter Bennett . . . .St 1951 189
.53 Les Allen . . . . . .Ka 1934 188
.54 Ted Freyer . . . . . Es 1933 187
.55 Lance Franklin . . . Ha 2008 186

So Buddy's not quite keeping pace with such luminaries as Minton-Connell and Darren Bennett. :( But good on him, he's great to watch and great for the game. :thumbsu:

[thatswhatimtalkinabout]

After 69 games:

Rnk Player . . . . . . . Cb Year Gls
------------------------------------
. 1 Peter Hudson . . . . Ha 1970 388
. 2 John Coleman . . . . Es 1952 355
. 3 Sel Murray . . . . . Ka 1941 289
. 4 Ron Todd . . . . . . Co 1939 284
. 5 George Moloney . . . Ge 1934 279
. 6 Tony Modra . . . . . Ad 1996 278
.=7 Fred Fanning . . . . Me 1946 264
.=7 Michael Roach . . . .Ri 1981 264
.=7 Mark Jackson . . . . Ge 1984 264
.10 Jack Moriarty . . . .Fi 1927 262
.11 Peter McKenna . . . .Co 1970 261
.12 George Margitich . . Me 1934 259
.13 Lindsay White . . . .Ge 1945 258
.14 Brian Taylor . . . . Co 1986 257
.15 Simon Beasley . . . .WB 1985 255
.16 Bob Pratt . . . . . .Sy 1934 254
.17 Peter Sumich . . . . WC 1992 249
.18 Jason Dunstall . . . Ha 1988 248
.19 George Goninon . . . Ge 1953 247
.20 Warwick Capper . . . Sy 1987 244
.21 Saverio Rocca . . . .Co 1995 241
.22 Bill Mohr . . . . . .St 1932 237
.23 Claude Curtin . . . .Fi 1946 236
.24 Kelvin Templeton . . WB 1978 234
=25 Doug Wade . . . . . .Ge 1965 232
=25 Gary Ablett . . . . .Ge 1987 232
.27 Tom Reynolds . . . . Es 1941 229
=28 Eddie Hart . . . . . Fi 1950 226
=28 Tony Lockett . . . . St 1986 226
=30 Jock Spencer . . . . Ka 1951 222
=30 Simon Minton-Connell Ha 1995 222
=30 Matthew Richardson . Ri 1997 222
.33 Bill Wood . . . . . .WB 1948 219
=34 Horrie Clover . . . .Ca 1924 215
=34 William Young . . . .St 1960 215
=34 John Longmire . . . .Ka 1991 215
.37 Ted E.Johnson . . . .Sy 1927 212
.38 Larry Donohue . . . .Ge 1978 211
=39 Dick Lee . . . . . . Co 1910 208
=39 Paul Schmidt . . . . Ca 1942 208
.41 Bert Hyde . . . . . .Ha 1930 206
.42 Norm Smith . . . . . Me 1939 204
.43 Jimmy Freake . . . . Fi 1915 203
.44 Cliff Rankin . . . . Ge 1923 202
.45 Matthew Lloyd . . . .Es 1999 201
.46 Darren Bennett . . . Me 1992 198
.47 Bob Beecroft . . . . Fi 1979 196
=48 Dick Harris . . . . .Ri 1937 192
=48 Des Fothergill . . . Co 1940 192
=48 Alex Jesaulenko . . .Ca 1970 192
=51 Alby Morrison . . . .WB 1932 189
=51 Peter Bennett . . . .St 1951 189
.53 Les Allen . . . . . .Ka 1934 188
.54 Ted Freyer . . . . . Es 1933 187
.55 Lance Franklin . . . Ha 2008 186

So Buddy's not quite keeping pace with such luminaries as Minton-Connell and Darren Bennett. :( But good on him, he's great to watch and great for the game. :thumbsu:

RTB - awesome stats, I seem to remember you have an edge over most of us in that regard.

The Mark Jackson one really suprises me.

[Guardian Hawk]

Sorry guys (Hodgepodge)...I thought it would be fairer to wait until the end of each round but people seem to want it straight away so i'll try to do it as soon as the stats are updated.

After a fine 5 goal effort against WC (and cruising past Q.Lynch)

Buddy has jumped 18 places to #354

Leaving these guys in his wake:


355 Allen, Les 190 70 Carl/NM 1930 1934
356 Searl, Doug 190 143 Coll/Fitz 1966 1976
357 Madden, Justin 190 332 Ess/Carl 1980 1996
358 Stockdale, Greg 189 106 Ess 1920 1928
359 Eagleton, Nathan 189 225 Port/WB 1997 2008
360 Power, Luke 189 209 Bris 1998 2008
361 Stockdale, Greg 189 106 Ess 1920 1928
363 Hands, Ken 188 211 Carl 1945 1957
364 Eason, Bill 187 220 Geel 1902 1915
365 McNamara, Dave 187 122 StK 1905 1923
366 McGuinness, Tony 187 222 Foot/Adel 1986 1996
367 Davie, Harry 186 58 Melb/Carl 1924 1928
368 Lewis, Dale 186 182 Syd 1990 2001
369 Burgoyne, Peter 186 221 Port 1997 2008
370 Jones, Corey 186 138 Kang/NM 2001 2008
371 Johnson, Steve 186 100 Geel 2002 2008
372 Lynch, Quinten 186 120 WC 2002 2008

[Ron The Bear]

RTB - awesome stats, I seem to remember you have an edge over most of us in that regard.

The Mark Jackson one really suprises me.

Cheers. Yeah, few realise how well Jacko's record reads on paper. Everyone remembers the antics and constant club changes though.

Interesting too that the only players on that list younger than Franklin were Lee, Lloyd, Lockett, Longmire and Des Fothergill (who was barely 20, and three games shy of winning the Brownlow along with his third Copeland Trophy). Gordon Coventry was nearly 24 and had 'only' 162 goals at the same stage; plenty of time for Buddy yet.

[SJT76]

Cheers. Yeah, few realise how well Jacko's record reads on paper. Everyone remembers the antics and constant club changes though.

Interesting too that the only players on that list younger than Franklin were Lee, Lloyd, Lockett, Longmire and Des Fothergill (who was barely 20, and three games shy of winning the Brownlow along with his third Copeland Trophy). Gordon Coventry was nearly 24 and had 'only' 162 goals at the same stage; plenty of time for Buddy yet.

It's scary how far in front of the rest Coleman and Hudson are though... the two of them are so far clear of 3rd it's just not funny.

Buddy's great to watch, but as a pure goal kicker has a long way to go.

The other thing that's nice to notice is longevity... Dunstall, Ablett and Lockett do OK in this, but not outstanding. But where is Matthews?

Finally, the one player closest to Franklin is ahead of him on this. I think a lot of us have forgotten how good Richo was when he hit the scene. I just hope Franklin can address his flaws better and kick on further.

Thanks for the good read though Ron.

[Hodgepodge]

Sorry guys (Hodgepodge)...I thought it would be fairer to wait until the end of each round but people seem to want it straight away so i'll try to do it as soon as the stats are updated.

After a fine 5 goal effort against WC (and cruising past Q.Lynch)

Buddy has jumped 18 places to #354

Leaving these guys in his wake:


355 Allen, Les 190 70 Carl/NM 1930 1934
356 Searl, Doug 190 143 Coll/Fitz 1966 1976
357 Madden, Justin 190 332 Ess/Carl 1980 1996
358 Stockdale, Greg 189 106 Ess 1920 1928
359 Eagleton, Nathan 189 225 Port/WB 1997 2008
360 Power, Luke 189 209 Bris 1998 2008
361 Stockdale, Greg 189 106 Ess 1920 1928
363 Hands, Ken 188 211 Carl 1945 1957
364 Eason, Bill 187 220 Geel 1902 1915
365 McNamara, Dave 187 122 StK 1905 1923
366 McGuinness, Tony 187 222 Foot/Adel 1986 1996
367 Davie, Harry 186 58 Melb/Carl 1924 1928
368 Lewis, Dale 186 182 Syd 1990 2001
369 Burgoyne, Peter 186 221 Port 1997 2008
370 Jones, Corey 186 138 Kang/NM 2001 2008
371 Johnson, Steve 186 100 Geel 2002 2008
372 Lynch, Quinten 186 120 WC 2002 2008

Thanks sir, where do you find these stats? I've been looking, but no luck as yet.

[Hawkers Hero]

Thanks sir, where do you find these stats? I've been looking, but no luck as yet.

http://afl.allthestats.com/records/goalsrec.php?pg=1

Thats the link - its done 20 at a time

Looking at the list he is on track to be around #250 by the end of this year (234 goals or 43 more for the season).

And for the poster asking about Roughie - he has now moved into position 820 level with Scott West on 104 goals. His 6 goals on the weekend took him past such current luminaries as David Hille, Jarrad Waite and Josh Carr

[blackhead&boil]

any updates following his four against sydney??

[hawksrule111]

321Parratt, Percy (http://afl.allthestats.com/statistics/player.php?idno=1475)202195Fitz19091923322Silvagni, Stephen (http://afl.allthestats.com/statistics/player.php?idno=9613)202312Carl19852001323Arthur, Graham (http://afl.allthestats.com/statistics/player.php?idno=6499)201232Haw19551968324Knights, Peter (http://afl.allthestats.com/statistics/player.php?idno=8166)201264Haw19691985325McCann, Steve (http://afl.allthestats.com/statistics/player.php?idno=8910)201226NM19771988326German, Peter (http://afl.allthestats.com/statistics/player.php?idno=9548)201185NM19841994327Callery, Paul (http://afl.allthestats.com/statistics/player.php?idno=8241)200182Melb/StK/SM19701980328Shaw, Ray (http://afl.allthestats.com/statistics/player.php?idno=8625)200146Coll19741981329Ezard, Alan (http://afl.allthestats.com/statistics/player.php?idno=9455)200184Ess19831993330Kelly, Paul (http://afl.allthestats.com/statistics/player.php?idno=10076)200234Syd19902002331Molloy, Jarrod (http://afl.allthestats.com/statistics/player.php?idno=10476)200169Fitz/Bris/Coll19942003332Dummett, Bob (http://afl.allthestats.com/statistics/player.php?idno=6455)19977Rich19541961333Ditterich, Carl (http://afl.allthestats.com/statistics/player.php?idno=7427)199285StK/Melb19631980334Richardson, Max (http://afl.allthestats.com/statistics/player.php?idno=8137)199241Coll/Fitz19691980335Brain, Terry (snr) (http://afl.allthestats.com/statistics/player.php?idno=3363)198141SM19281937336Monteath, Bruce (http://afl.allthestats.com/statistics/player.php?idno=8716)198118Rich19751980337Hawker, Glenn (http://afl.allthestats.com/statistics/player.php?idno=9021)198227Ess/Carl19781991338Kolyniuk, Steven (http://afl.allthestats.com/statistics/player.php?idno=9881)198177Foot/WB19872000339Brown, Gavin (http://afl.allthestats.com/statistics/player.php?idno=9755)195254Coll19872000340Franklin, Lance (http://afl.allthestats.com/statistics/player.php?idno=11383)19571Haw20052008

[hawksrule111]

Wow, that didn't work.

He's on 195 goals atm and two major hawks he's going to pass in the near future are our legend Graham Arthur who kicked 201 and Willo who currently has 205 goals

[The TACHawks]

Wow, that didn't work.

He's on 195 goals atm and two major hawks he's going to pass in the near future are our legend Graham Arthur who kicked 201 and Willo who currently has 205 goals

Also Peter knights on 201

[FisherHawk]

Wow, that didn't work.

He's on 195 goals atm and two major hawks he's going to pass in the near future are our legend Graham Arthur who kicked 201 and Willo who currently has 205 goals

Also Crawf 221 and Platten 228 by seasons end. If he really gets his kicking boots on, he can overtake Nick Holland 239. By season end next year, he should pass the great Buckenara 293 and Tucky on 320.

[thatswhatimtalkinabout]

Also Crawf 221 and Platten 228 by seasons end. If he really gets his kicking boots on, he can overtake Nick Holland 239. By season end next year, he should pass the great Buckenara 293 and Tucky on 320.

I came across this stat the other day when having a look at Bucky - I have this fanciful notion that Xavier Ellis reminds me of him in the way he moves - but I digress, Bucky actually kicked 60 goals for the Hawks in his first season.

How many non KPP's before and since (LM aside) or specifically half forward flankers have had that much influence on the field and the scoreboard?

[walhawk]

Buckenara was my favourite player in the 80s.
A brilliant forward but a better centerman.

As good as D Jarman.

[hawks_time]

Don't forget Dicko for the end of next year, he's on 270ish goals isn't he?

[Guardian Hawk]

Sorry for the delay guys...internet has been badly misfiring but am back at Uni and will keep it updated from there.

IN 2 weeks, he has kicked 7 goals, seeing him fly up to #339 of all time.

these are the blokes he has surpassed (or stayed ahead of) in the last fortnight.

340 Chapman, Paul 196 150 Geel 2000 2008
341 Keddie, Bob 195 132 Haw 1965 1972
342 Rowlings, Barry 195 234 Haw/Rich 1975 1986
343 Brown, Gavin 195 254 Coll 1987 2000
344 Sheldon, Ken 194 185 Carl/StK 1977 1989
345 Leppitsch, Justin 194 227 BriB/Bris 1993 2006
346 Mann, Hassa 193 178 Melb 1959 1968
347 Fields, Neville 193 200 Ess/SM/Ess 1969 1982
348 Alessio, Steven 193 184 Ess 1992 2003
349 Eagleton, Nathan 193 227 Port/WB 1997 2008
350 Northey, John 192 118 Rich 1963 1970
351 Hoffmann, Steven 192 160 SM/Foot 1969 1979
352 Bruce, Cameron 192 178 Melb 2000 2008
353 Didak, Alan 192 136 Coll 2001 2008
354 Keogh, Trevor 191 208 Carl 1970 1981
355 O'Brien, Craig 191 114 Ess/StK/Syd 1989 2000
356 Davis, Leon 191 153 Coll 2000 2008
357 Johnson, Steve 191 103 Geel 2002 2008

He also has passed three Hawthorn greats in that time on our all-time goalkicking list, having stayed at #27 for a long while, he has jumped to #24!, overtaking:

25 Curran, Peter 196 109 Haw 1983 1990
26 Keddie, Bob 195 132 Haw 1965 1972
27 Thompson, Nathan 192 119 Haw 1998 2004
(Note: These are goals kicked at Hawthorn)

His 73 goals this season, places him at #195 for the most goals in season, drawing level with

196 Glendinning, Ross 73 19 WC 1988
197 Robertson, Russell 73 23 Melb 2005
198 Rocca, Saverio 73 20 Coll 1993
199 Brewer, Ian 73 21 Coll 1958
200 O'Brien, Noel 73 17 Carl 1955
205 Quinlan, Bernie 73 24 Fitz 1981
206 Heatley, Jason 73 20 StK 1997
204 Margitich, George 73 17 Melb 1930

and overtaking this week:

209 Titus, Jack 72 18 Rich 1938
210 Pratt, Bob 72 16 SM 1939
211 Pavlich, Matthew 72 22 Frem 2007
212 Coventry, Gordon 72 19 Coll 1937
213 Ablett, Gary (snr) 72 21 Geel 1992
214 Gehrig, Fraser 71 22 StK 2006
215 Jakovich, Allen 71 14 Melb 1991
216 Matthews, Leigh 71 22 Haw 1976
217 Grant, Chris 71 24 Foot 1994
218 Metherell, Jack 71 19 Geel 1937
219 Pratt, Bob 71 17 SM 1932
220 Matthews, Leigh 71 23 Haw 1978
221 Reynolds, Tom 71 18 Ess 1939
223 Jakovich, Allen 71 14 Melb 1991
224 Pratt, Bob 71 17 SM 1932
225 Davis, Allan 70 22 StK 1971
226 Modra, Tony 70 19 Adel 1994
227 Blight, Malcolm 70 15 NM 1981
228 Del-Re, Danny 70 22 Foot 1992
229 Moriarty, Jack 70 16 Fitz 1933
230 Whitnall, Lance 70 25 Carl 2000
231 Young, George Albert 70 19 StK 1978
232 Cummings, Scott 70 21 Port 1997
233 Lloyd, Matthew J. 70 23 Ess 1998

[Guardian Hawk]

For those interested, here is how he is faring for all players after 71 games*

He is at #55 behind these players, some of whom started later

*thanks go to Ron the Bear (Richmond poster) for supplying this information. It will be updated every 3 rounds...
Gls M Player Cb Year Rd Age
407 71 Hudson, Peter Ha 1970 16 24y149d
367 71 Coleman, John Es 1952 16 23y260d
298 71 Murray, Sel Ka 1942 2 24y174d
296 71 Todd, Ron Co 1939 16 22y293d
286 71 Modra, Tony Ad 1996 8 27y79d
280 71 Moloney, George M. Ge 1934 1825y39d
279 71 Pratt, H. Bob Sy 1934 3 21y261d
277 71 Roach, Michael Ri 1981 16 22y282d
274 71 Moriarty, Jack Fi 1927 9 26y56d
274 71 McKenna, Peter Co 1970 3 23y234d
273 71 Jackson, Mark Ge 1985 1 25y212d
270 71 Fanning, Fred Me 1946 3 24y180d
265 71 Margitich, George Me 1934 11 25y245d
263 71 Dunstall, Jason Ha 1988 9 23y288d
262 71 Taylor, Brian Co 1986 9 24y44d
261 71 White, Lindsay Ge 1945 11 23y176d
258 71 Beasley, Simon WB 1985 12 28y324d
256 71 Templeton, Kelvin WB 1978 13 21y274d
255 71 Capper, Warwick Sy 1987 17 24y44d
255 71 Sumich, Peter WC 1992 10 24y132d
254 71 Goninon, George Ge 1953 13 26y98d
246 71 Mohr, Bill St 1932 18 23y66d
244 71 Rocca, Saverio Co 1995 22 21y287d
241 71 Curtin, Claude Fi 1946 17 26y44d
237 71 Reynolds, Tom Es 1941 15 24y261d
236 71 Spencer, Jock Ka 1951 15 22y239d
236 71 Ablett senior, Gary Ge 1987 15 25y277d
235 71 Lockett, Tony St 1986 22 20y174d
234 71 Wade, Doug Ge 1965 13 23y281d
229 71 Hart, Eddie Fi 1950 8 27y361d
227 71 Minton-Connell, Simon Ha 1995 726y17d
226 71 Donohue, Larry Ge 1978 4 23y
225 71 Longmire, John Ka 1992 2 21y88d
224 71 Richardson, Matthew Ri 1997 1022y73d
221 71 Clover, Horrie Ca 1926 3 31y56d
221 65 Metherell, Jack Ge 1937 GF 24y320d
220 71 Wood, Bill L. WB 1949 2 27y165d
219 71 Schmidt, Paul Ca 1942 10 25y79d
219 71 Young, Bill D. St 1960 3 28y336d
215 71 Freake, Jimmy Fi 1915 17 26y199d
214 71 Lee, Dick Co 1910 6 21y79d
214 71 Johnson, Ted E. Sy 1927 3 25y183d
213 71 Hyde, Bert Ha 1930 11 23y39d
210 71 Smith, Norm W. Me 1939 SF 24y299d
210 64 Evans, Ron B. Es 1962 15 23y28d
209 71 Lloyd, Matthew J. Es 1999 12 21y64d
208 71 Beecroft, Bob Fi 1979 18 27y205d
208 54 Jakovich, Allen WB 1996 21 28y156d
207 71 Rankin, Cliff Ge 1923 16 26y271d
203 71 Jesaulenko, Alex Ca 1970 16 24y350d
200 71 Bennett, Darren Me 1992 15 26y301d
198 71 Fothergill, Des Co 1940 17 20y40d
196 71 Harris, Dick D. Ri 1937 17 25y304d

[Hodgepodge]

319 Franklin, Lance 202 73 Haw
320 Parratt, Percy 202 195 Fitz
321 Silvagni, Stephen 202 312 Carl
322 Wanganeen, Gavin 202 300 Ess/Port


Franklin moves to 319 drawing level with SOS and wanganeen

[thatswhatimtalkinabout]

319 Franklin, Lance 202 73 Haw
320 Parratt, Percy 202 195 Fitz
321 Silvagni, Stephen 202 312 Carl
322 Wanganeen, Gavin 202 300 Ess/Port


Franklin moves to 319 drawing level with SOS and wanganeen

Just remember whos' thread this is HP.

GH is in charge of the updating - we can do the commenting.

[Hodgepodge]

Goodes, Adam Sydn 1999-08 224 214 224 214
Grace, Mick Fitz 1897-00 65 55 167 214
- Carlt 1903-07 86 133
- St K 1908 16 26
Rose, Bob Coll 1946-55 152 214 152 214
Coutie, Vin Melb 1901-11 152 212 152 212
Harvey, Robert St K 1988-08 374 212 374 212
Walsh, Brian T. Carlt 1970-75 64 144 115 211
- Ess 1975-78 51 109
Franklin, Lance Hawth 74 210
Chick, Daniel Hawth 1996-02 149 159 252 210
- West C 2003-07 103 51
Crow, Max Ess 1974,
1976-82 136 139 188 210
- St K 1983-85 40 53
- Wstrn B 1986 12 18
Evans, Ron B. Ess 1958-62 64 210 64 210
Kennedy, John D. Hawth 1979-91 241 210 241 210
Gale, Brendon Rich 1990-01 244 209 244 209
Ruscuklic, Alex Fitz 1966-74 108 209 117 209
- Carlt 1974 9 20
Cresswell, Daryn Sydn 1992-03 244 208 244 208
Jakovich, Allen Melb 1991-94 47 201 54 208
- Wstrn B 1996 7 7
Williams, Mark Hawth 2002-08 89 208 89 208

[Gold Member]

Just remember whos' thread this is HP.

GH is in charge of the updating - we can do the commenting.

Second that notion, or at least give him/her a few days grace. Also when GH posts its actually ledgible.

[Choota]

Second that notion, or at least give him/her a few days grace. Also when GH posts its actually ledgible.

Carried. Get the original bloke back in. Can't even decipher that last post. Neck up, kid.

[Hodgepodge]

Sorry guys . . . i didn't read the post warning me to wait for GH until after i posted the figures . . . and the allthestats.com site was down, which explains the messy figures.

[eagledream]

Guardian Hawk, where are you? I love this thread. Buddy is an absolute superstar and even as a non hawks supporter i regularly visit this thread to see how the man is progressing through the ranks. An update perhaps? Cheers.

[Stard Picket]

# Player Goals Pl Club/s
281 Goodes, Adam 222 226 Syd
282 Metherell, Jack 221 65 Geel
283 Ware, Norm 220 200 Foot
284 Ryan, Bill R. 220 167 Geel
285 Condon, Don 218 131 NM
286 Barwick, Doug 218 147 Fitz/Coll
287 Caracella, Blake 218 187 Ess/Bris/Coll
288 Williams, Greg 217 250 Geel/Syd/Carl
289 Matera, Peter 217 253 WC
290 Guinane, Paddy 216 146 Rich
291 Blethyn, Geoff 216 84 Ess
292 Franklin, Lance 216 75 Haw
293 Bennett, Darren 215 78 WC/Melb
294 Cockatoo-Collins, Che 215 160 Ess/Port
295 Grace, Mick 214 167 Fitz/Carl/StK
296 Rose, Bob 214 152 Coll
297 Fordham, Ted 214 128 Ess
298 Harvey, Robert 213 377 StK
299 Coutie, Vin 212 152 Melb
300 Walsh, Brian T. 211 115 Carl/Ess

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

Fantastic. I love seeing these updates !!

Thanks again.

[Hodgepodge]

Soon he'll clear pretty much all midfielders and advance to the gun midfielder/half-forwards.

[cat in sydney]

I notice Darren Bennett just below him. Is that Bennett that's been punting over in the NFL? If so, what happened that meant he only played 78 games, despite a good goal per game ratio?

[Crazyhawk]

# Player Goals Pl Club/s
292 Franklin, Lance 216 75 Haw
293 Bennett, Darren 215 78 WC/Melb


That's interesting! Pretty similar stats.
Bennett was pretty much glued to the goalsquare though wasn't he?

[Faithful Hawk]

That's interesting! Pretty similar stats.
Bennett was pretty much glued to the goalsquare though wasn't he?

I am pretty sure he was in his mid 20's by time he made it to Melbourne hence the short career and move to the NFL. Have fond memories of him kicking bag after bag playing for East Freo..

[Crazyhawk]

# Player Goals Pl Club/s
281 Goodes, Adam 222 226 Syd
292 Franklin, Lance 216 75 Haw

Looks like Goodes is gonna go down fighting with his 8 goals last weekend ;)

[Salamander Man]

I'm not sure where to put this but I cant make a new thread so i will put it here.

In the paper today over here in perth they were warning against players running out onto the ground if franklin kicks his 100th goal at subi. i think we play them in round 21. i would love to run onto the ground but im not sure how seriously the afl are taking this, they really seem to want to stamp it out. I think its a great tradition but i wouldnt want any of our players to get hurt from a rampaging crowd. Thoughts?

[HFC082]

Buddy will get his 10 this week. The 10 and the 100 in the same game. It will be a magical afternoon.

[Hotham Hawk]

Buddy will get his 10 this week. The 10 and the 100 in the same game. It will be a magical afternoon.

I sure hope so :)

[RickMylox]

# Player Goals Pl Club/s
291 Blethyn, Geoff 216 84 Ess
292 Franklin, Lance 216 75 Haw


He's about to pass a bloke who played in glasses:

http://www.fullpointsfooty.net/images/GBlethynEss.jpg

Bit of the Bill Gates about him.

[Hawkers Hero]

He's about to pass a bloke who played in glasses:

http://www.fullpointsfooty.net/images/GBlethynEss.jpg

Bit of the Bill Gates about him.

The question is - why is Buddy still behind him?

Surely if you have the same number of goals in fewer matches you should be ahead?

[Flamin Joe]

The question is - why is Buddy still behind him?

Surely if you have the same number of goals in fewer matches you should be ahead?

Alphabetical? Blethyn >> Franklin, Geoff >> Lance

[FandangoDingo]

The question is - why is Buddy still behind him?

Surely if you have the same number of goals in fewer matches you should be ahead?

It could be listed chronologically?

Or perhaps they just list the better looking player first??? ;)

[Birchustar]

what is his status after the home and away season?

[hawkstars]

what is his status after the home and away season?
Just wanted to know the same thing

[Mr Chuckles]

Here's the latest update:

Rank Player Goals Pl Club/s First Last

261 Crimmins, Peter 231 176 Haw 1966 1975
262 Krakouer, Phil 231 148 NM/Foot 1982 1991
263 Pool, Ted 230 200 Haw 1926 1938
264 Smith, Ross G. 230 234 StK 1961 1975
265 Stackpole, Keith 229 118 Fitz/Coll 1935 1944
266 Balme, Neil 229 159 Rich 1970 1979
267 Schmidt, Paul 228 78 Carl 1937 1944
268 Rayson, Noel 228 107 Geel/SM 1950 1959
269 Ridley, Ian 228 130 Melb 1954 1961
270 Platten, John 228 258 Haw 1986 1997
271 Naish, Chris 228 161 Rich/Port 1990 1999
272 Hawkins, Doug 227 350 Foot/Fitz 1978 1995
273 Green, Brad 227 186 Melb 2000 2008
274 Franklin, Lance 227 78 Haw 2005 2008
275 Koutoufides, Anthony 226 278 Carl 1992 2007
276 Wilson, Billy P. 225 185 Rich 1944 1954
277 Wooller, Fred 225 132 Geel 1956 1964
278 Goodes, Adam 225 228 Syd 1999 2008
279 Stoneham, Barry 223 241 Geel 1986 2000
280 Crawford, Shane 222 302 Haw 1993 2008

A couple of big Hawthorn names bookending that lineup! And one of my all time favourites in Platten. Buddy's in good company.

[RickMylox]

About to catch this guy:


http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200709/r187779_701381.jpg

Wooller presenting the Cup last year as the previous Geelong premiership captain.

[harliquin]

Reread it.. he's already passed him :)

[RickMylox]

Reread it.. he's already passed him :)

Whoops, that's the rank, not the goals total. Good pickup.

Great, now I look like a knobjockey in a thread that'll be going for another ten years.

[Rowie6]

Here's the latest update:

Rank Player Goals Pl Club/s First Last

261 Crimmins, Peter 231 176 Haw 1966 1975
262 Krakouer, Phil 231 148 NM/Foot 1982 1991
263 Pool, Ted 230 200 Haw 1926 1938
264 Smith, Ross G. 230 234 StK 1961 1975
265 Stackpole, Keith 229 118 Fitz/Coll 1935 1944
266 Balme, Neil 229 159 Rich 1970 1979
267 Schmidt, Paul 228 78 Carl 1937 1944
268 Rayson, Noel 228 107 Geel/SM 1950 1959
269 Ridley, Ian 228 130 Melb 1954 1961
270 Platten, John 228 258 Haw 1986 1997
271 Naish, Chris 228 161 Rich/Port 1990 1999
272 Hawkins, Doug 227 350 Foot/Fitz 1978 1995
273 Green, Brad 227 186 Melb 2000 2008
274 Franklin, Lance 227 78 Haw 2005 2008
275 Koutoufides, Anthony 226 278 Carl 1992 2007
276 Wilson, Billy P. 225 185 Rich 1944 1954
277 Wooller, Fred 225 132 Geel 1956 1964
278 Goodes, Adam 225 228 Syd 1999 2008
279 Stoneham, Barry 223 241 Geel 1986 2000
280 Crawford, Shane 222 302 Haw 1993 2008

A couple of big Hawthorn names bookending that lineup! And one of my all time favourites in Platten. Buddy's in good company.
We need Crawf to kick a few,i cannot believe he is already up to Kouta.

[Bombermania]

Interesting stats and I always find it an Interesting way of seeing how a player is progressing.

[col44]

BY finals end the big fella will be inside the 250 mark.

[RogerC]

Here's the latest update:

Rank Player Goals Pl Club/s First Last

261 Crimmins, Peter 231 176 Haw 1966 1975
262 Krakouer, Phil 231 148 NM/Foot 1982 1991
263 Pool, Ted 230 200 Haw 1926 1938
264 Smith, Ross G. 230 234 StK 1961 1975
265 Stackpole, Keith 229 118 Fitz/Coll 1935 1944
266 Balme, Neil 229 159 Rich 1970 1979
267 Schmidt, Paul 228 78 Carl 1937 1944
268 Rayson, Noel 228 107 Geel/SM 1950 1959
269 Ridley, Ian 228 130 Melb 1954 1961
270 Platten, John 228 258 Haw 1986 1997
271 Naish, Chris 228 161 Rich/Port 1990 1999
272 Hawkins, Doug 227 350 Foot/Fitz 1978 1995
273 Green, Brad 227 186 Melb 2000 2008
274 Franklin, Lance 227 78 Haw 2005 2008
275 Koutoufides, Anthony 226 278 Carl 1992 2007
276 Wilson, Billy P. 225 185 Rich 1944 1954
277 Wooller, Fred 225 132 Geel 1956 1964
278 Goodes, Adam 225 228 Syd 1999 2008
279 Stoneham, Barry 223 241 Geel 1986 2000
280 Crawford, Shane 222 302 Haw 1993 2008


That wasn't updated. He's actually at 252, with 235 goals from 79 games

[play2win]

luv this thread, cheers:thumbsu:

what is the chance of a list for total goals kicked in finals?

[Buddy the Brave]

Updated

Rank Player Goals Games Club first last

241 Dunne, Ross 238 213 Coll 1967 1978
242 Kyne, Phonse 237 245 Coll 1934 1950
243 Baldock, Darrel 237 119 StK 1962 1968
244 Heady, Brett 237 156 WCE 1990 1999
245 Hardiman, Les 236 135 Geel 1929 1937
246 McMahon, David 236 218 Fitz 1973 1984
247 Williams, Mark M. 236 201 Coll/BriB 1981 1990
248 Krakouer, Jim 236 147 NM/Stk 1982 1991
249 Bayliss, George 235 98 Rich/Foot 1914 1925
250 Ottens, Brad 235 202 Rich/Geel 1998 2008
251 Davis, Nick 235 168 Coll/Syd 1999 2008
252 Franklin, Lance 235 79 Haw 2005 2008
253 Moyes, Harry 234 106 StK/Melb 1915 1927
254 Reville, Peter 234 178 SM/Fitz 1925 1939
255 Sandilands, Laurie 234 164 Foot/Coll 1966 1978
256 Yze, Adem 234 271 Melb 1995 2008
257 Graham, E. Jack 233 227 SM 1935 1949
258 Close, Robin 233 147 Ess 1968 1978
259 Kekovich, Sam 232 128 NM/Coll 1968 1977
260 McRae, Craig 232 195 BriB/Bris 1995 2004

[wolvesjr34]

Looks like Lance could move up a fair few places next week.

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

Great stuff. These are my favourite updates ! Thanks.

[Ron The Bear]

luv this thread, cheers:thumbsu:

what is the chance of a list for total goals kicked in finals?

Rnk Gl Player . . . . . Cb(s) .. .M
-----------------------------------
.1 111 Coventry, Gordon Co . . ..31
.
.
122 19 Spencer, Jock . .NM . . .. 6
123 19 Riewoldt, Nick . St . .. . 8
124 19 Rocca, Anthony . Co . .. . 9
125 19 Sharrock, John . Ge . . ..10
126 19 Crisp, Mickey . .Ca . . ..11
127 19 Jackson, Ricky . Me . . ..11
128 19 Curran, Peter . .Ha . . ..12
129 19 Davis, Allan . . St,Es,Co.13
130 19 Lappin, Matthew .St,Ca . .14
131 19 Libbis, Billy . .Co . . ..14
132 19 Grace, Mick . . .Fi,Ca,St 14
133 19 Sheldon, Ken . . Ca . .. .15
134 19 Jones, Peter . . Ca . .. .23
135 19 Lappin, Nigel . .Br . .. .23
136 19 Bradley, Craig . Ca . .. .24
137 19 Kemp, Dean . . . WC . .. .25
138 18 Franklin, Lance .Ha . . .. 3
139 18 Bayliss, George .Ri . . .. 8
140 18 Wooller, Fred . .Ge . . .. 8
141 18 Whitnall, Lance .Ca . . .. 9
142 18 Byrne, Michael . Ha,Sy. ..11
143 18 Curtis, Harry . .Co . . ..13
144 18 Weideman, Murray Co . . ..14
145 18 Dunne, Ross . . .Co . . ..18
146 18 Johnston, Wayne .Ca . . ..18
147 18 Barham, Ricky . .Co . . ..18
148 18 Martello, Alan . Ha,Ri. . 19
149 18 Kennedy, John D. Ha . . ..20

The list thins out above 30 goals, e.g. Michael Moncrieff (31 goals in 15 finals) is ranked #45.

[RickMylox]

138 18 Franklin, Lance .Ha . . .. 3
139 18 Bayliss, George .Ri . . .. 8.


Sure, he passed George Bayliss. But look at the size of ball he had to use.


http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z255/richo01/19201929/20JJ1.jpg

That's as big as his fricken torso.

[play2win]

Rnk Gl Player . . . . . Cb(s) .. .M
-----------------------------------
.1 111 Coventry, Gordon Co . . ..31
.
.
122 19 Spencer, Jock . .NM . . .. 6
123 19 Riewoldt, Nick . St . .. . 8
124 19 Rocca, Anthony . Co . .. . 9
125 19 Sharrock, John . Ge . . ..10
126 19 Crisp, Mickey . .Ca . . ..11
127 19 Jackson, Ricky . Me . . ..11
128 19 Curran, Peter . .Ha . . ..12
129 19 Davis, Allan . . St,Es,Co.13
130 19 Lappin, Matthew .St,Ca . .14
131 19 Libbis, Billy . .Co . . ..14
132 19 Grace, Mick . . .Fi,Ca,St 14
133 19 Sheldon, Ken . . Ca . .. .15
134 19 Jones, Peter . . Ca . .. .23
135 19 Lappin, Nigel . .Br . .. .23
136 19 Bradley, Craig . Ca . .. .24
137 19 Kemp, Dean . . . WC . .. .25
138 18 Franklin, Lance .Ha . . .. 3
139 18 Bayliss, George .Ri . . .. 8
140 18 Wooller, Fred . .Ge . . .. 8
141 18 Whitnall, Lance .Ca . . .. 9
142 18 Byrne, Michael . Ha,Sy. ..11
143 18 Curtis, Harry . .Co . . ..13
144 18 Weideman, Murray Co . . ..14
145 18 Dunne, Ross . . .Co . . ..18
146 18 Johnston, Wayne .Ca . . ..18
147 18 Barham, Ricky . .Co . . ..18
148 18 Martello, Alan . Ha,Ri. . 19
149 18 Kennedy, John D. Ha . . ..20

The list thins out above 30 goals, e.g. Michael Moncrieff (31 goals in 15 finals) is ranked #45.
thanks:thumbsu:

[wolvesjr34]

That's an interesting list there, thanks for sharing :)