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Dave The Man
6 Jun 2008, 21:54
Check what Some Morons have said on MVFC Forums.

____ OFF gayFL!!!!11111one http://www.melbournevictory.net/forum/images/set2/tank.gif

Seriously, the AFL have just shot themselves in the foot. They've just told every other sport out there that they've got until 2010 to get their new GC teams up and running. By the time he fumbleball team actually gets to the Coast there'll be no room for them. http://www.melbournevictory.net/forum/images/set2/wacko.gif

It pretty much affirms that the next two teams in will be North QLD and the GC too. Big times ahead for QLD football!

____ OFF gayFL!!!!11111one

Tell you what though, I did have one semi-decent idea: make new teams in less important regions and place them in a second division, with the opportunity for promotion.

____ OFF gayFL!!!!11111one

Just Show how Stupid People who Follow Soccer are

Link to Thread (http://www.melbournevictory.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39133&page=2)

ChrisFooty
6 Jun 2008, 22:18
Every code has these types of supporters. Ditto for every sporting club.

Beaussie
6 Jun 2008, 22:23
Every code has these types of supporters. Ditto for every sporting club.

That's true. What amazes me about Soccer fans however is that they think they will take over as the No.1 footy code in Australia, despite only playing in summer with no competition from the AFL, NRL or Super 14 Rugby. We all know why they play in summer.

BacharHouli_43
6 Jun 2008, 22:30
Dude, the idea about having a promotion/relegation system with regional teams is actually a really good idea.

Btw,the Gold Coast United have a 1.5 billion dollar guy backing them... imagine the players they could buy with that sort of money. They should seriously go after Christian Vieri (he is after all an Aussie - he was born here and lived here for 5 years) or maybe even Dukes or Harry. Who knows they pay for the brazilian ronaldo? And yes i know how ridiculous that sounds... ronaldo in the a-league- tomoro's headline

Fire
7 Jun 2008, 00:17
Dude, the idea about having a promotion/relegation system with regional teams is actually a really good idea.

Btw,the Gold Coast United have a 1.5 billion dollar guy backing them... imagine the players they could buy with that sort of money. They should seriously go after Christian Vieri (he is after all an Aussie - he was born here and lived here for 5 years) or maybe even Dukes or Harry. Who knows they pay for the brazilian ronaldo? And yes i know how ridiculous that sounds... ronaldo in the a-league- tomoro's headline

Get real.

He is a businessman, not a walking wallet.

He could spend 100 million buying the A-league cup, and no one would care. This doesn't have the prestige of your EPL's, where businessmen will happily do that sort of thing to boost their egos.

Just ask the NBL how good private owners are in this country when the dollars don't flow.

Van Queen
7 Jun 2008, 00:38
Look at the Dave the Man....his other teams: Victory.

This thread sounds like someone is a little bothered by this new announcement, so they had to find ways of making it look stupid.

It was a nice try, but it has failed miserably.

MVFC + A-League + Gold Coast United > Dave the man

Van Queen
7 Jun 2008, 00:41
Get real.

He is a businessman, not a walking wallet.

He could spend 100 million buying the A-league cup, and no one would care. This doesn't have the prestige of your EPL's, where businessmen will happily do that sort of thing to boost their egos.

Just ask the NBL how good private owners are in this country when the dollars don't flow.

Except the dollars are going to flow in soccer, unlike basketball which is a very limited sport. How misguided your knowledge is. Basketball cant be placed in the same sentence as soccer, even in the codes new found spotlight. Basketball is a dead end sport, and everyone knows is. Soccer isnt, and these people can actually expect to make money from it. But its the idea of having such a rich person behind the team that makes it all the sweeter. You can keep going on about your excuses for trying to hate soccer, but deep down inside you know you're wrong, and just a little bit jealous. :thumbsu:

Sebastian Balboa
7 Jun 2008, 01:00
Check what Some Morons have said on MVFC Forums.

Just Show how Stupid People who Follow Soccer are

Link to Thread (http://www.melbournevictory.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39133&page=2)

Oh the sweet irony in soccer fans calling any rival football code 'gay'...

Dave The Man
7 Jun 2008, 01:03
Except the dollars are going to flow in soccer, unlike basketball which is a very limited sport. How misguided your knowledge is. Basketball cant be placed in the same sentence as soccer, even in the codes new found spotlight. Basketball is a dead end sport, and everyone knows is. Soccer isnt, and these people can actually expect to make money from it. But its the idea of having such a rich person behind the team that makes it all the sweeter. You can keep going on about your excuses for trying to hate soccer, but deep down inside you know you're wrong, and just a little bit jealous. :thumbsu:
Watching Soccer can put people to sleep

Tigerdrive
7 Jun 2008, 01:49
Wow go to the Melbourne Victory Forums and find the most anti AFL posts on it then post them on BigFooty, Sokka hating WUM :thumbsd:.

dom_105
7 Jun 2008, 01:59
Dude, the idea about having a promotion/relegation system with regional teams is actually a really good idea.

Btw,the Gold Coast United have a 1.5 billion dollar guy backing them... imagine the players they could buy with that sort of money. They should seriously go after Christian Vieri (he is after all an Aussie - he was born here and lived here for 5 years) or maybe even Dukes or Harry. Who knows they pay for the brazilian ronaldo? And yes i know how ridiculous that sounds... ronaldo in the a-league- tomoro's headline

Salary Cap.



Incidentally, some people on here shouldn't be throwing stones. Some of you give as good as you get on this topic.

w00dy
7 Jun 2008, 02:13
why are they called gold coast united? what clubs united to form this side? same with adelaide... ridiculous... means they're more of a soccer team because they have united in their name?

Richard Cranium
7 Jun 2008, 02:16
Except the dollars are going to flow in soccer, unlike basketball which is a very limited sport. How misguided your knowledge is. Basketball cant be placed in the same sentence as soccer, even in the codes new found spotlight. Basketball is a dead end sport, and everyone knows is. Soccer isnt, and these people can actually expect to make money from it. But its the idea of having such a rich person behind the team that makes it all the sweeter. You can keep going on about your excuses for trying to hate soccer, but deep down inside you know you're wrong, and just a little bit jealous. :thumbsu:
I would think that at some point in the 90's, basketball would've been in the exact same position soccer is in now. If you cast your mind back, Jordan ruled the world, the NBL were getting crowds of 10,000 everywhere, for every game and they were on prime time FTA TV. So, yes, you can compare basketball and soccer.

But what dollars are flowing in soccer? Don't most teams record losses year in, year out? If it didn't have a rich daddy, I highly doubt it would be in the same place it is now (in fact, we all know it wouldn't be). And considering that it has only hit the primetime for about 3 years, you would want to see it's popularity last a bit longer before we call it anything more than a fad.

stephen_bayne
7 Jun 2008, 02:30
As a fan of both sports I can say both are as bad as each other in terms of acting like knobs. Some soccer fans think they'll take over Aussie Rules as the number 1 sport when all that is happening and will happen is that it will become one of the mainstream sports in Australia and and call AFL the GayFL. Aussie Rules fans think the A-League is failing and are majorly misinformed and really just think it's failing cause they think it is and call it the A-League Gay-League.

Personally I think the announcement today is exellent news. The A-League can only get stronger with more teams, a longer season and more investors like this bloke.

arads
7 Jun 2008, 02:56
That's true. What amazes me about Soccer fans however is that they think they will take over as the No.1 footy code in Australia, despite only playing in summer with no competition from the AFL, NRL or Super 14 Rugby. We all know why they play in summer.

Wrong. The A-League season will soon be extending to at least 30+ rounds as part of AFC regulations. This means the season will start around midway through the AFL season and probably end around the NAB Cup final the following season. If the season is 30 rounds (which as I said will be the minimum), plus they have 4 weeks of finals and at least 3 FIFA-sanctioned weeks off for internationals, not to mention Asian Cup, the season will go at least 37-38 weeks. To say that it will not compete for the same market as the other Football codes is simply wrong.

Btw, the reason why our season is in summer is to co-incide with other international football leagues around the world. It is not because we are scared of other football codes. Your opinions are clearly un-educated.

arads
7 Jun 2008, 02:57
As a fan of both sports I can say both are as bad as each other in terms of acting like knobs. Some soccer fans think they'll take over Aussie Rules as the number 1 sport when all that is happening and will happen is that it will become one of the mainstream sports in Australia and and call AFL the GayFL. Aussie Rules fans think the A-League is failing and are majorly misinformed and really just think it's failing cause they think it is and call it the A-League Gay-League.

Personally I think the announcement today is exellent news. The A-League can only get stronger with more teams, a longer season and more investors like this bloke.

Good post IMO.

dom_105
7 Jun 2008, 02:58
why are they called gold coast united? what clubs united to form this side?

Not clubs, towns.

The Gold Coast is a big place. It's probably about 60k's long, stretching from Beenleigh (even though that might be stretching it a bit) all the way to Tweed Heads

This dosen't include towns like Casino, Lismore, Byron Bay, Ballina, Warwick and a large slab of New England (although probably not as south as Tamworth & Coffs Harbour, the latter may get an A-League license of their own in time)

The point is, for all these towns, Gold Coast will be "their team"


same with adelaide...


The supporter bases of both Adelaide City and West Adelaide.

numchuks
7 Jun 2008, 03:13
Check what Some Morons have said on MVFC Forums.






Just Show how Stupid People who Follow Soccer are

Link to Thread (http://www.melbournevictory.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39133&page=2)

Errr have you ever been on the MVFC forums before?

Half the posters there have AFL images on their avatars, and on other boards there's 100 page threads about AFL.

They hardly hate the game. Most of them love Aussie Rules equally as much as they love soccer.

No need for this shit.

stmookeyj
7 Jun 2008, 04:47
Good for the code really, and typically so many are blinded by the power it brings by percieving themselves to be the #1 code. Let's all co-exist for the greater good otherwise it could all go balls-up.

golazo
7 Jun 2008, 07:56
Check what Some Morons have said on MVFC Forums.






Just Show how Stupid People who Follow Soccer are

Link to Thread (http://www.melbournevictory.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39133&page=2)
It's almost more offensive than your use of the capital letter....


Or the youtube videos you posted of yourself on the Victory forum. Anybody got a link?

Chuq
7 Jun 2008, 09:49
Oh the sweet irony in soccer fans calling any rival football code 'gay'...

Yeah, its terrible isn't it.. because we all know other football codes would never say the same thing about soccer.... oh look, you're still doing it. You know that went out of fashion 5 years ago?

Father Jack
7 Jun 2008, 10:43
Wrong. The A-League season will soon be extending to at least 30+ rounds as part of AFC regulations. This means the season will start around midway through the AFL season and probably end around the NAB Cup final the following season. If the season is 30 rounds (which as I said will be the minimum), plus they have 4 weeks of finals and at least 3 FIFA-sanctioned weeks off for internationals, not to mention Asian Cup, the season will go at least 37-38 weeks. To say that it will not compete for the same market as the other Football codes is simply wrong.

Btw, the reason why our season is in summer is to co-incide with other international football leagues around the world. It is not because we are scared of other football codes. Your opinions are clearly un-educated.

You can't tell me that the whole reason why soccer changed to a summer game was simply to synchronise their season with Europe. It might have played a part, but commonsense would dictate that they would be better off not going head to head with Aussie rules and rugby league, who dominate the football landscape in Australia. It's not a matter of being scared of other codes, it is simply recognising reality when you see it.

I'm actually getting a bit worried about the GC side, I was looking forward to it, but it is starting to look like a combination of Skase-style glitz and Abramovitch-style chequebook trophyism. I personally don't like the idea of getting big-name players from OS in for four game stints.

Bosley
7 Jun 2008, 11:01
why are they called gold coast united? what clubs united to form this side? same with adelaide... ridiculous... means they're more of a soccer team because they have united in their name?

Adelaide United was so named for good reason. They joined the NSL in its last year, after Adelaide Force (previously Adelaide City) was forced to pull out of the league due to lack of funds. Prior to this Adelaide City and West Adelaide were in the NSL for many years and had an intense rivalry.

So for fans of soccer in Adelaide there were 3 groups - Adelaide City supporters (95% of Italian heritage), West Adelaide supporters (95% of Greek heritage) and those who had no team to support because they were not of Italian or Greek extraction and so had no affinity with either team.

When the new team was brought in to the NSL and then kept for the A-League it was a team which appealed to all soccer fans in Adelaide (and many who previously were not even soccer fans) - hence the title Adelaide United.

I for one only attended one Adelaide City game prior to their entry but now attend every Adelaide United game - I think the name is appropriate for the Adelaide club.

I am not so sure it fits the Gold Coast club tho as they don't have as divisive a history in the sport from what I know.

Fire
7 Jun 2008, 11:47
Except the dollars are going to flow in soccer, unlike basketball which is a very limited sport. How misguided your knowledge is. Basketball cant be placed in the same sentence as soccer, even in the codes new found spotlight. Basketball is a dead end sport, and everyone knows is. Soccer isnt, and these people can actually expect to make money from it. But its the idea of having such a rich person behind the team that makes it all the sweeter. You can keep going on about your excuses for trying to hate soccer, but deep down inside you know you're wrong, and just a little bit jealous. :thumbsu:

A strange little patronising rant, I hope you enjoyed feeling superior.

I don't understand it; I think you agree with me. A businessman would "expect to make money from it", and so he wont be out buying an A-league premiership by luring stars like Ronaldo.

There was a time when Basketball was growing and making money. Basketball has a very strong international presence, and a multi-billion dollar industry. I don’t see why a comparison can’t be made if the A-league ever found itself stagnating, and that private investment can very much become a liability.

Why then, would you act like a total ____? It unfortunately epitomises the soccer fan stereotype, and you do your fans an injustice.

Grow up.

Bosley
7 Jun 2008, 12:21
Unfortunately every thread relating to soccer on this board eventually comes to this - person A says soccer is better than AFL because of x, y & z. Then person B says AFL is better than soccer because of a, b & c.

The FFA have said that they plan for soccer / A-League to become the 2nd biggest sport in each market - that is to say behind AFL in Vic, SA & WA and behind NRL in QLD and NSW. It is possible they could forge ahead of NRL in NSW in relation to crowds but in all other markets being 2nd is a realistic aim and if accomplished would be a great effort.

Who knows, in 20 or 30 years soccer / A-League may be #1 in some markets that we don't think likely now but there is no way they will be close to #1 in Vic, SA or WA in the immediate future.

Grunty
7 Jun 2008, 14:17
Salary Cap.



I don't think the marquee players are part of the salary cap, so the Gold Coast billionaire can bring in as many any overseas players as he can afford, including guest players at $250,000 a game.

He has already said that he also wants 4 Asians in the team, including 2 Chinese.This is purely for business reasons.

China is the main market for his iron ore exports, and he sees advertising at the Gold Coast stadium as a way of reinforcing his brand in Asia, with
A League and Asian Champions League games being broadcast into Asia.

Business and sporting links with all the Asian countries, not just China, will only increase over the years, especially with Rudd in charge. He is now off to Japan.

jackmac7
7 Jun 2008, 15:38
Wrong. The A-League season will soon be extending to at least 30+ rounds as part of AFC regulations. This means the season will start around midway through the AFL season and probably end around the NAB Cup final the following season. If the season is 30 rounds (which as I said will be the minimum), plus they have 4 weeks of finals and at least 3 FIFA-sanctioned weeks off for internationals, not to mention Asian Cup, the season will go at least 37-38 weeks. To say that it will not compete for the same market as the other Football codes is simply wrong.

Btw, the reason why our season is in summer is to co-incide with other international football leagues around the world. It is not because we are scared of other football codes. Your opinions are clearly un-educated.


Wrong.

The MLS is currently underway in the states because it can not compete with the NFL season which runs simultaneously with the EPL. The same for the A-league here. The A-league would not survive if it was up against the AFL and NRL hence why they are forced to play in a soring summer heat which no football code in the world has to contend with.

Can you imagine Victory V Glory on a friday night in Melbourne up against Collingwood V Carlton?

stephen_bayne
7 Jun 2008, 15:40
Good for the code really, and typically so many are blinded by the power it brings by percieving themselves to be the #1 code. Let's all co-exist for the greater good otherwise it could all go balls-up.

Exellent point of view. Wish more people thought like this. Even though I don't like League or Union I wouldn't want to see them fail just cause the sport wasn't invented here. So's cricket and no one seems to think that's Unaustralian. Certain people only seem to think a sport is Unaustralian when it competes against the AFL. In the end it's all Australian so if the NRL or A-League goes belly up it's a loss for Australian sport.

jackmac7
7 Jun 2008, 16:06
Is Private Ownership a worry for the A-league looking down the barrell as we see the NBL reach breaking point as private ownership sinks Franchises, Fans and a league as a whole?

It seems when things go to S**t they really go to S**t.

MightyIrons
7 Jun 2008, 16:33
Is Private Ownership a worry for the A-league looking down the barrell as we see the NBL reach breaking point as private ownership sinks Franchises, Fans and a league as a whole?

It seems when things go to S**t they really go to S**t.

Private ownership is not a bad thing, interestingly the FFA want the clubs owned by consortiums, not by individuals. So you should get your facts straight first ;)

Holding The Ball
7 Jun 2008, 16:47
Dude, the idea about having a promotion/relegation system with regional teams is actually a really good idea.

Btw,the Gold Coast United have a 1.5 billion dollar guy backing them... imagine the players they could buy with that sort of money. They should seriously go after Christian Vieri (he is after all an Aussie - he was born here and lived here for 5 years) or maybe even Dukes or Harry. Who knows they pay for the brazilian ronaldo? And yes i know how ridiculous that sounds... ronaldo in the a-league- tomoro's headline
Christian Vieri was born in Italy

Hence the reason he played for the divers

arads
7 Jun 2008, 16:57
Wrong.

The MLS is currently underway in the states because it can not compete with the NFL season which runs simultaneously with the EPL. The same for the A-league here. The A-league would not survive if it was up against the AFL and NRL hence why they are forced to play in a soring summer heat which no football code in the world has to contend with.

Can you imagine Victory V Glory on a friday night in Melbourne up against Collingwood V Carlton?

Hmm, I didn't realise we had to follow the lead of the US when it comes to the scheduling of our competition:rolleyes:. It might interest you to know that "soccer" is a winter sport. It is played in summer here. This is not an ideal scenario but one which has had to occur due to our country being on the other side of the world to the powerful leagues of world football.

If our competition was played in winter, good luck getting guys on loan. Good luck with getting players from overseas clubs who have just come out of a 40 game season to start another 25 game season. It would be an absolute disaster in all facets if the code was played in winter.

For the record, the FFA expected crowds of around 10,000 for all clubs (including Victory) in season one. I would expect the Victory to be capable of getting 10k against Collingwood v Carlton, at Olympic Park or the Dome. The current crowds which sides such as Victory get might not meet their current standards, but would still be above initial FFA expectations.

arads
7 Jun 2008, 17:02
Can I also add that A-League will clash with AFL far more in the coming years, for as much as half a season. So whether you think it will work or not, it's going to happen.

fairdinkum
7 Jun 2008, 17:05
Compared to the rubbish posted by cos and jackmac7 on this board, those soccer fans seem like Einstein and Nostradamus wrapped into one.

maroon and blue
7 Jun 2008, 18:16
Compared to the rubbish posted by cos and jackmac7 on this board, those soccer fans seem like Einstein and Nostradamus wrapped into one.

What is it with you Nth Melb fans. You seem to have a hatred of AFL. Yet the fact remains thet your situation is a result of your own laziness. Your club has had an easy ride ever since the Ten Year rule was introduced way back when. It's not your team but YOU that have failed your club. And when the shit hits the fan you hit out blindly at the competition. If you are so bitter go follow lawn bowls.

Rob
7 Jun 2008, 18:26
Is Private Ownership a worry for the A-league looking down the barrell as we see the NBL reach breaking point as private ownership sinks Franchises, Fans and a league as a whole?

It seems when things go to S**t they really go to S**t.

There are pros and cons of it. The main pro is that the league doesn't have to cough up the cash to expand.
The biggest con is what you're seeing in the NBL - you've got teams in deep shit because their owner is in deep shit. Using this new GC team as an example - if Palmer is propping them up and suddenly encounters financial difficulties himself (or worse, dies) then the future of the club will be whether they can find someone else to come in and hand over fistfuls of dollars.

All well and good to spend $10 million bringing in big names and live off hype, but if it's not sustainable from the dollars coming into the club, then the existence of the club rests on the owner's continuing ability to prop them up. It's not a smart strategy if you're trying to build a credible, sustainable league.

fairdinkum
7 Jun 2008, 18:42
rant

Yawn.

maroon and blue
7 Jun 2008, 18:58
Yawn.

Looks like we have something in common. Exactly how I feel about your diatribes. Let's try to keep them to a minimum. Pact?

fairdinkum
7 Jun 2008, 19:28
Looks like we have something in common. Exactly how I feel about your diatribes.

My comment in this thread was relevant to this thread.
Your comment was not.

Think about it.

Bosley
7 Jun 2008, 19:30
Hmm, I didn't realise we had to follow the lead of the US when it comes to the scheduling of our competition:rolleyes:. It might interest you to know that "soccer" is a winter sport. It is played in summer here. This is not an ideal scenario but one which has had to occur due to our country being on the other side of the world to the powerful leagues of world football.

If our competition was played in winter, good luck getting guys on loan. Good luck with getting players from overseas clubs who have just come out of a 40 game season to start another 25 game season. It would be an absolute disaster in all facets if the code was played in winter.

For the record, the FFA expected crowds of around 10,000 for all clubs (including Victory) in season one. I would expect the Victory to be capable of getting 10k against Collingwood v Carlton, at Olympic Park or the Dome. The current crowds which sides such as Victory get might not meet their current standards, but would still be above initial FFA expectations.

Adelaide vs Melbourne drew 10,000 at Hindmarsh last year in direct competition to Port Adelaide vs West Coast in an AFL FINAL just down the road.

There are a lot of fans who support both codes but would choose soccer over AFL if push came to shove ... I did that night.

ParraEelsNRL
7 Jun 2008, 19:59
Oh ok, it's alright for the soccer to draw 10k up against the AFL in Vic, but when the Storm do it all season, it's a joke :rolleyes:

Hmmm

stephen_bayne
7 Jun 2008, 21:22
Um, actually Melbourne Victory got over 30k for thier first home match last season which kicks off in the midst of the business end of the AFL season. In the previous 2 years thier first home games have gotten 17k and 15k respectivly.

Also, from what I've heard Hindmarsh is a bugger to get to and if they had a stadium closer to the CBD I reckon Adelaide would draw much bigger crowds.

arads
8 Jun 2008, 02:28
Adelaide vs Melbourne drew 10,000 at Hindmarsh last year in direct competition to Port Adelaide vs West Coast in an AFL FINAL just down the road.

There are a lot of fans who support both codes but would choose soccer over AFL if push came to shove ... I did that night.

Um yeah, a final... how often will those clashes occur a season? Once, twice maybe?? Really good comparison buddy:thumbsu:

Gibbke
8 Jun 2008, 09:40
One of the silliest notions from those of you down south is that Rugby League isn't safe from being knocked from top spot in its respective strongholds. The idea that soccer, let alone the AFL, is going to take over is insanely laughable...

Believe me, this Tasmanian born Aussie Rules supporter can see very clearly for himself that it is League which rules Qld, and is the code that Qlders identify with when anyone says "footy". You can start with the Courier Mail, and then strike up a conversation at any given barbie...

Lose the Lions, the Roar, and to a lesser extent the Reds, and they'll get over it. Mess with the Broncos (and more and more every day the Titans), and far more cataclysmic, the Origin side, and you'll kill the spirit of an entire state's footy supporters...

Superleague might have given the AFL a few minutes of relatively stress free existence in the late 90's, but the fans were just waiting for it all to be fixed...as far as they are concerned, the real stuff was back on when the NRL got some stability...

Fender
8 Jun 2008, 12:05
Agreed Gibbke. I think the Channel 7 news ad sums it up IMHO. I will have to get the exact quote, the one with Shane Webke.

Bosley
8 Jun 2008, 19:06
Um yeah, a final... how often will those clashes occur a season? Once, twice maybe?? Really good comparison buddy:thumbsu:

Which then makes my comparison all the more valid u silly man. If they get that in direct competition to a final then naturally they would get more if only in competition with a minor round game or no game at all. Can't believe I have to explain that.

Fender
8 Jun 2008, 20:40
lol Arads. Bosley was actually backing you up.

Hoops
10 Jun 2008, 11:54
One of the silliest notions from those of you down south is that Rugby League isn't safe from being knocked from top spot in its respective strongholds. The idea that soccer, let alone the AFL, is going to take over is insanely laughable...

Believe me, this Tasmanian born Aussie Rules supporter can see very clearly for himself that it is League which rules Qld, and is the code that Qlders identify with when anyone says "footy". You can start with the Courier Mail, and then strike up a conversation at any given barbie...

Lose the Lions, the Roar, and to a lesser extent the Reds, and they'll get over it. Mess with the Broncos (and more and more every day the Titans), and far more cataclysmic, the Origin side, and you'll kill the spirit of an entire state's footy supporters...

Superleague might have given the AFL a few minutes of relatively stress free existence in the late 90's, but the fans were just waiting for it all to be fixed...as far as they are concerned, the real stuff was back on when the NRL got some stability...
You sound like another person taken in by all this code war scaremongering that the northern media is driving, I would like you to find a quote by the AFL or AFL Journalist or even a BigFooty poster, that suggest that Aussie rules is going to knock off Rugby League from top spot in Queensland.

Fender
10 Jun 2008, 14:21
You sound like another person taken in by all this code war scaremongering that the northern media is driving, I would like you to find a quote by the AFL or AFL Journalist or even a BigFooty poster, that suggest that Aussie rules is going to knock off Rugby League from top spot in Queensland.

Here you go. Not sure what forum you go to it certainly isn't this one.

I guarantee you within a year crowds on the Gold Coast will rival if not surpass Titans attendance

Aussie Rules is on the move

Hoops
10 Jun 2008, 14:30
Here you go. Not sure what forum you go to it certainly isn't this one.A bold prediction about the attendance figures of the new Gold Coast Club isn't exactly knocking rugby League off the Top spot in queensland, even when the Lions were getting bigger crowds than the Broncos, you couldn't of said that Aussie Rules was bigger than Rugby League in Queensland

Hodgepodge
10 Jun 2008, 14:31
That's true. What amazes me about Soccer fans however is that they think they will take over as the No.1 footy code in Australia, despite only playing in summer with no competition from the AFL, NRL or Super 14 Rugby. We all know why they play in summer.

i'm a soccer fan and i don't think that at all . . . there are some on that forum who are idiots, as there are on any forum on the internet.

Hodgepodge
10 Jun 2008, 14:35
Check what Some Morons have said on MVFC Forums.

Just Show how Stupid People who Follow Soccer are

Link to Thread (http://www.melbournevictory.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39133&page=2)

The MVFC forum also has sections for discussing AFL teams, so let's not paint us all in the same brush, i post there all the time and there are some anti-AFL people and some pro-AFL. I am one of the pros.