View Full Version : The Pundit Theory: Johns,Jetta,Gumbleton>Gibbs, Murphy, Kreuzer
KnockOut
9 Jun 2008, 01:33
Here ye, Here ye. All fans of our great game I call a vote, one that will shape this great board we call Bay 13. It is in this thread you put your balls on the line and put a rivalry aside to save face as reputations are on the line.
I would rather Gumbleton, Johns and Jetta ahead of Murphy, Gibbs and Kreuzer anyday. I think most fans on here would agree (that aren't Carlton fans!)
The very intelligent poster quoted above has stated that most fans of our game would rather Gumbleton (An injury plagued top 3 'superdraft' pick who has yet to play more than 3 games), Jetta (A run of the mill type forward, good skills and pressure, goes missing and so early into his career is known more for his off-field discretions) and Johns (Refer to Definition of Dud)
over
Kreuzer (A developing young ruckman in his first year and has already shown more than the three combined), Murphy (In his third year now but in his first year managed to come third in the rising star after just 12 games. Hasn't taken a backward step playing a very pivotal role in Carlton's 5-6 record in 2008) and Gibbs(So much expected of the young boy but hasn't yet delivered as quick as what others have, has been impressive but is yet to consistently play up to his own standards. Again has shown more than Jetta, Johns and Gumbleton combined).
Now I turn to you, the public to vote. And as per conditions Carlton fans need not vote.
perthbombersfan
9 Jun 2008, 01:55
Here ye, Here ye. All fans of our great game I call a vote, one that will shape this great board we call Bay 13. It is in this thread you put your balls on the line and put a rivalry aside to save face as reputations are on the line.
The very intelligent poster quoted above has stated that most fans of our game would rather Gumbleton (An injury plagued top 3 'superdraft' pick who has yet to play more than 3 games), Jetta (A run of the mill type forward, good skills and pressure, goes missing and so early into his career is known more for his off-field discretions) and Johns (Refer to Definition of Dud)
over
Kreuzer (A developing young ruckman in his first year and has already shown more than the three combined), Murphy (In his third year now but in his first year managed to come third in the rising star after just 12 games. Hasn't taken a backward step playing a very pivotal role in Carlton's 5-6 record in 2008) and Gibbs(So much expected of the young boy but hasn't yet delivered as quick as what others have, has been impressive but is yet to consistently play up to his own standards. Again has shown more than Jetta, Johns and Gumbleton combined).
Now I turn to you, the public to vote. And as per conditions Carlton fans need not vote.
if you are really interested in finding out peoples opinions, you wouldnt need to try and bias them by telling them what you think in your post.
kinda loses all credibility when you tell people why they should vote for what you want them to choose.
still.......if it makes you feel like a hero, go for it.
you would prob get high off a placebo.
Neville Bartos
9 Jun 2008, 01:56
Is this a serious thread? Three number one draft pics vs non no.1 draft pics?
Hardly fair.
FieryNayta
9 Jun 2008, 01:59
Is this a serious thread? Three number one draft pics vs non no.1 draft pics?
Hardly fair.
He's only responding to the idiodic comment quoted in the OP.
Not worthy of its own thread, the answer is fairly obvious.
KarmaGeddon
9 Jun 2008, 02:07
if you are really interested in finding out peoples opinions, you wouldnt need to try and bias them by telling them what you think in your post.
kinda loses all credibility when you tell people why they should vote for what you want them to choose.
still.......if it makes you feel like a hero, go for it.
you would prob get high off a placebo.
Good OP. What's your position that people can't ask what others are thinking without first expressing what they think??? Sounds all ____ed up to me bro.
perthbombersfan
9 Jun 2008, 02:15
Good OP. What's your position that people can't ask what others are thinking without first expressing what they think??? Sounds all ____ed up to me bro.
Are you seriously dumb enough to believe what you said?
Why would you put up a poll and then tell people what to vote for?
He has presented a biased reasoning for people to choose what he wants them to choose.
As much as i'd hate to say it.... The Carlton Trio, just 'too' good for the mosquitos....
That loss to us is still hurting you, love it. :thumbsu:
Johns averages more goals per game than Kreuzer. Ouch.:o
sausageroll
9 Jun 2008, 02:49
I'd vote #1 regardless of what I think just because you're a ****head for starting a pointless thread like this:thumbsd:
I'd get the Carlton coup just for Murphy.
I havn't seen much of Gumbleton or know much about him, but from potential basis, is the only player I'd like from that 3 players from the Dons but Murphy is the player North need
KnockOut
9 Jun 2008, 02:56
I'd vote #1 regardless of what I think just because you're a ****head for starting a pointless thread like this:thumbsd:
If you've taken any time to read the post you would've noticed that this is simply a reply to one of your fellow Bummers supporters. The Essendon trio was compiled by The_pundit, not by myself. So you voted option 1 instead of option 2 because.... I am simply taking up the offer of this 'the_pundit' fellow?
If you've taken any time to read the post you would've noticed that this is simply a reply to one of your fellow Bummers supporters. The Essendon trio was compiled by The_pundit, not by myself. So you voted option 1 instead of option 2 because.... I am simply taking up the offer of this 'the_pundit' fellow?
What The_Pundit stated was that 'he would rather' the Essendon players over the carlton players and that most people would agree that 'he would rather' have them.
What basis do you have to dispute what he would rather have? None.
OWNED:thumbsu::)
KnockOut
9 Jun 2008, 03:02
Johns averages more goals per game than Kreuzer. Ouch.:oMurphy Averages more goals a game than Gumbleton/Johns/Jetta, Ouch?
sausageroll
9 Jun 2008, 03:05
If you've taken any time to read the post you would've noticed that this is simply a reply to one of your fellow Bummers supporters. The Essendon trio was compiled by The_pundit, not by myself. So you voted option 1 instead of option 2 because.... I am simply taking up the offer of this 'the_pundit' fellow?
Oh, sorry.
I thought from your coments that this was more about "reputations" being "on the line".
Good luck with enhancing your reputation here. It's obviously what you're hoping for.
Starting this pointless thread doesn't do much for your reputation though imo.
Just makes you look like a bit of a tosser so I'm really just voting against you.
KnockOut
9 Jun 2008, 03:07
What The_Pundit stated was that 'he would rather' the Essendon players over the carlton players and that most people would agree that 'he would rather' have them.
What basis do you have to dispute what he would rather have? None.
OWNED:thumbsu::)
Smartass bummer fan admitting defeat or illliterate bummers fan? I know and weather you choose to admit, you know that Pundit is saying that most fans agree that they themselves would rather the bummer trio.
So is that the standard 'owned' has dropped to, sad, sad day for BigFooty.
Murphy Averages more goals a game than Gumbleton/Johns/Jetta, Ouch?
Murphy 26 goals from 46 games = 0.565 per game
Gumbleton 3 goals from 5 games = 0.6 per game
Johns 18 goals from 21 games = 0.857 per game
Why must you feel the need to blatantly lie?
Typical carlton cheating scum.:thumbsd:
:)
KnockOut
9 Jun 2008, 03:13
Oh, sorry.
I thought from your coments that this was more about "reputations" being "on the line".
Good luck with enhancing your reputation here. It's obviously what you're hoping for.
Starting this pointless thread doesn't do much for your reputation though imo.
Just makes you look like a bit of a tosser so I'm really just voting against you.
This was not about my reputation at all. It was more about the better half of the bummer fans and the neutral supporters would vote with their heads rather than their asses. To be honest all I really wanted was a few bummers fans to just say "Stupid thread, we rate Jetta and Gumbleton but the Carlton trio are great players and we are not all total wankers like the_pundit".
This was not about my reputation at all. It was more about the better half of the bummer fans and the neutral supporters would vote with their heads rather than their asses. To be honest all I really wanted was a few bummers fans to just say "Stupid thread, we rate Jetta and Gumbleton but the Carlton trio are great players and we are not all total wankers like the_pundit".
And since Jetta and Gumbleton are better than those 3, why would adding Courtney Johns change things?
KnockOut
9 Jun 2008, 03:19
Why must you feel the need to blatantly lie?
Apologies was using footywire.com and it had Murphy at .7, Johns at .5 and Gumbleton at .6.
perthbombersfan
9 Jun 2008, 03:19
This was not about my reputation at all. It was more about the better half of the bummer fans and the neutral supporters would vote with their heads rather than their asses. To be honest all I really wanted was a few bummers fans to just say "Stupid thread, we rate Jetta and Gumbleton but the Carlton trio are great players and we are not all total wankers like the_pundit".
Get off your high horse.........dont try the high and mighty moral standing.
you just wanted to feed your own little ego and think you proved a point.
well done........you are truly great and have pointed out to all and sundry how magnificent your mind is....blah blah blah.
Johns averages more goals per game than Kreuzer. Ouch.:o
His name is Courtney. Bigger ouch. :o
His name is Courtney. Bigger ouch. :o
He was born with this ailment.
Mocking people for conditions they have had to endure since birth. Poor form.:thumbsd:
sausageroll
9 Jun 2008, 03:23
This was not about my reputation at all. It was more about the better half of the bummer fans and the neutral supporters would vote with their heads rather than their asses. To be honest all I really wanted was a few bummers fans to just say "Stupid thread, we rate Jetta and Gumbleton but the Carlton trio are great players and we are not all total wankers like the_pundit".
It's obviously a stupid thread. Like I said, it makes you look like a bit of a tosser.
Of course I'd take your three #1 picks over those players. They're #1 picks after all!
Gumbleton, Ryder and Houli would make me think a lot harder though and we didn't have the luxury of getting them with #1 picks.
Also, I'm not so sure I'd be so happy with your picks compared to some of the players you could have had instead. There's quite a few better players currently running around in the AFL from those drafts.
KnockOut
9 Jun 2008, 03:25
And since Jetta and Gumbleton are better than those 3, why would adding Courtney Johns change things?
There we have it, an opinion. Instead of arguing with the reasoning behind the thread that's all you needed to say. While I disagree with it's still yours. Alot better than the
"You're a tossbag, I'm voting with the bombers trio just cause you made the thread".
Bay13 and Essendon loyalty aside if you were in charge of Essendon and Carlton came to you and offered their trio for Johns, Jetta and Gumbleton you wouldn't take it?
He was born with this ailment.
Mocking people for conditions they have had to endure since birth. Poor form.:thumbsd:
Pfft! Yet you mock some of our players for being born with the ailment of having no talent. Hypocrite!
Oh, and he can always change his name. You can't change your genetics however... unless you swim in a radioactive dump or eat McDonalds.
perthbombersfan
9 Jun 2008, 03:26
His name is Courtney. Bigger ouch. :o
haha coming from a supporter of a team with names like bryce, setanta and aisake??
wouldnt really be pulling up a name like courtney.........actually come to think of it.......it isn't exactly the most masculine name.......but still, your boys have some corkers too.
Pfft! Yet you mock some of our players for being born with the ailment of having no talent. Hypocrite!
I contend that carlton sucks the talent out of them.
Guess I can't mock them for being drafted by carlton though. They didn't have much choice.
There we have it, an opinion. Instead of arguing with the reasoning behind the thread that's all you needed to say. While I disagree with it's still yours. Alot better than the
"You're a tossbag, I'm voting with the bombers trio just cause you made the thread".
Bay13 and Essendon loyalty aside if you were in charge of Essendon and Carlton came to you and offered their trio for Johns, Jetta and Gumbleton you wouldn't take it?
No way, Johns is the only one I would consider trading, definitley not Jetta or Gumbleton.
KnockOut
9 Jun 2008, 03:29
haha coming from a supporter of a team with names like bryce, setanta and aisake??
wouldnt really be pulling up a name like courtney.........actually come to think of it.......it isn't exactly the most masculine name.......but still, your boys have some corkers too.
A tad of racism? Bryce-Courtney, fair enough but if I was to come out and slam the name Bachar would you be yielding your axe?
perthbombersfan
9 Jun 2008, 03:34
A tad of racism? Bryce-Courtney, fair enough but if I was to come out and slam the name Bachar would you be yielding your axe?
Racism implies you are mocking the race of a person. Are you not smart enough to realise that white australians are from the same race as the irish? caucasians you dweeb. its not racist at all since they are of the same racial classification as me.
perthbombersfan
9 Jun 2008, 03:36
A tad of racism? Bryce-Courtney, fair enough but if I was to come out and slam the name Bachar would you be yielding your axe?
and i'm pretty sure you mean wielding rather than yielding.
I contend that carlton sucks the talent out of them.
Guess I can't mock them for being drafted by carlton though. They didn't have much choice.
But if you suck something out, it has to go somewhere. It just doesn't disappear. Can you explain that?
I voted number one because KnockOuts a wanker.
lmao! this cant be serious? murphy alone is better then the 3,
Here ye, Here ye. All fans of our great game I call a vote, one that will shape this great board we call Bay 13. It is in this thread you put your balls on the line and put a rivalry aside to save face as reputations are on the line.
The very intelligent poster quoted above has stated that most fans of our game would rather Gumbleton (An injury plagued top 3 'superdraft' pick who has yet to play more than 3 games), Jetta (A run of the mill type forward, good skills and pressure, goes missing and so early into his career is known more for his off-field discretions) and Johns (Refer to Definition of Dud)
over
Kreuzer (A developing young ruckman in his first year and has already shown more than the three combined), Murphy (In his third year now but in his first year managed to come third in the rising star after just 12 games. Hasn't taken a backward step playing a very pivotal role in Carlton's 5-6 record in 2008) and Gibbs(So much expected of the young boy but hasn't yet delivered as quick as what others have, has been impressive but is yet to consistently play up to his own standards. Again has shown more than Jetta, Johns and Gumbleton combined).
Now I turn to you, the public to vote. And as per conditions Carlton fans need not vote.
Well I would take the Carlton players, but then they are 3 number 1 draft picks.
Much better than a number 2, number 18 and a rookie listed player who was told he would never play another game of Aussie Rules because of a busted up hip.
If we can get Gumbleton's body right, then I have no doubt he is going to be a very good player for us.
Jetta needs to start finding more of the ball, but he's been used as a outside midfielder. Needs to learn the game in the forward line as a small forward who can fill the role that Alywn Davey was before he went down with his knee injury.
Johns, massive punt that cost us nothing. Hasn't worked out, he'll be leaving us at the end of the season.