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fishguts
9 Jun 2008, 11:53
All year is inept performance after inept performance. Would Hawthorn supporters agree that he is currently the worse player in the comp? Flashback only a few weeks ago against Port, Did nothing all day, Cherry picks a goal, and goes on to be a cocky SOB even though he was probably worst on ground. Against the Bulldogs he got 6 touches and from the 1 behind. Just last Saturday, He was the worst on ground in a team that won by 51 points. Didn't chase and for a guy who plays as a forward pocket, not even one scoring shot. So over the last 4 weeks I'd say he's been worst on ground 3 times. Is he the worst player in the AFL.

bender22
9 Jun 2008, 12:01
Courtney Johns.

Witts
9 Jun 2008, 12:06
Raph Clarke board
Ken McGregor board

Parse
9 Jun 2008, 12:11
Fishguts.....

This thread has FAIL all over it

Hodgies Heroes
9 Jun 2008, 12:15
All year is inept performance after inept performance. Would Hawthorn supporters agree that he is currently the worse player in the comp? Flashback only a few weeks ago against Port, Did nothing all day, Cherry picks a goal, and goes on to be a cocky SOB even though he was probably worst on ground. Against the Bulldogs he got 6 touches and from the 1 behind. Just last Saturday, He was the worst on ground in a team that won by 51 points. Didn't chase and for a guy who plays as a forward pocket, not even one scoring shot. So over the last 4 weeks I'd say he's been worst on ground 3 times. Is he the worst player in the AFL.

You brainless gimp - He had more possessions than LLoyd and Lucas combined :thumbsu:
Delsit these incompetent old hacks from your team before they embarrass your club any further.

buddylove_23
9 Jun 2008, 12:32
Bah Bow...

Neville Bartos
9 Jun 2008, 12:37
This is all you can come up with after a loss? The bombers weren't that bad on the weekend. They've certainly improved since Anzac Day, so I suggest you take it as a standard unavoidable loss where the team didn't disgrace themselves, and move on.

Mark Williams played in the midfield on the weekend where he did pretty well. He had 15 disposals (more than Reimers, Welsh, Monfries, Ryder, Lonergan, Lloyd, Hille, Lucas and Jetta), he had 4 marks, 3 tackles, 2 goal assists and 4 inside 50s.

I'd still take him over ANY midfielder/small forward at Essendon

Johnny_Segment
9 Jun 2008, 12:45
Players who had less disposals than Williams on Saturday;

A.Monfries
S.Lonergan
P.Ryder
K.Reimers
A.Welsh
M.Lloyd
D.Hille
S.Lucas
L.Jetta
T.Bellchambers

Players who have kicked less goals than Williams this year;

EVERY SINGLE PLAYER ON THE BOMBERS LIST BAR ONE

fishguts
9 Jun 2008, 12:46
You brainless gimp - He had more possessions than LLoyd and Lucas combined :thumbsu:
Delsit these incompetent old hacks from your team before they embarrass your club any further.

OK then I'll go into further detail.

Williams had 15 disposals

#13 were uncontested
#6 of them were clangers
#Did not score

Compared to Lloyd

Lloyd had 9 disposals

#6 were uncontested
#4 were clangers
#kicked 2 goals

Compared to Lucas

Lucas had 6 disposals

#5 were uncontested
#0 clangers
# kicked 3.1

fishbowl
9 Jun 2008, 12:48
Essendon 12 Goals 7 Behinds.

Roughead 3 goals 2 behinds
Franklin 9 goals 5 behinds

Even Tim Clarke kicked a goal.

Marks inside 50

Essendon 10
Lance Franklin 10

Essendon: FAIL

Mark Williams had 15 Possessions. How many Essendon players had 15 possessions?

Lance Franklin had 18 possessions. He alone had 14 scoring shots, 5 less than the entire Essendon side

Hodgies Heroes
9 Jun 2008, 12:51
OK then I'll go into further detail.

Williams had 15 disposals

#13 were uncontested
#6 of them were clangers
#Did not score

Compared to Lloyd

Lloyd had 9 disposals

#6 were uncontested
#4 were clangers
#kicked 2 goals

Compared to Lucas

Lucas had 6 disposals

#5 were uncontested
#0 clangers
# kicked 3.1

Thanks for clarifying - so clearly Williams was better than those two - so your answer is a resounding no!!!!!! Loyd is clearly the worst player in the AFL.

Johnny_Segment
9 Jun 2008, 13:01
Before one more Bomber fan writes something in this thread, just remember 1 thing. In the last 4 years, Matthew Lloyd has played 51 games for 158 goals. Mark Williams has played 50 games for 152 goals. You're calling one the worst player in the league and the other one of your greatest ever players?

Neville Bartos
9 Jun 2008, 13:10
Before one more Bomber fan writes something in this thread, just remember 1 thing. In the last 4 years, Matthew Lloyd has played 51 games for 158 goals. Mark Williams has played 50 games for 152 goals. You're calling one the worst player in the league and the other one of your greatest ever players?

That's worth a thread on its own.

Give up Essendon. You can't win from there

Link_Wray
9 Jun 2008, 13:22
All year is inept performance after inept performance. Would Hawthorn supporters agree that he is currently the worse player in the comp? Flashback only a few weeks ago against Port, Did nothing all day, Cherry picks a goal, and goes on to be a cocky SOB even though he was probably worst on ground. Against the Bulldogs he got 6 touches and from the 1 behind. Just last Saturday, He was the worst on ground in a team that won by 51 points. Didn't chase and for a guy who plays as a forward pocket, not even one scoring shot. So over the last 4 weeks I'd say he's been worst on ground 3 times. Is he the worst player in the AFL.

What a stupid post. Did you even watch the game? Here's what Hodge had to say about Mark efforts after the game

"Although Mark Williams did not kick a goal, Hodge thought it was the best game he had seen the small forward play in "two or three years" because of his team work and ability to create scoring chances."

http://news.realfooty.com.au/sport/h...0608-2nhd.html

Watch the game again and I think youll see he was in a fair bit more of the action and was putting his body on the line a fair bit more than you're giving him credit for

hawkz
9 Jun 2008, 13:24
All year is inept performance after inept performance. Would Hawthorn supporters agree that he is currently the worse player in the comp?


I disagree.

The End :thumbsu:

The Dustbin
9 Jun 2008, 13:28
He isn't the worst player in the AFL. There are a few worrying signs though that are hard to ignore. His lack of defensive pressure when the ball isn't in his hands and his failure to put his body on the line (Once going for a pack mark with out stretched arms and the other when he just completely backed out of the contest). Doesn't like body contact or protecting his teammates in a marking contest.

Anyway they are only small issues and I'm sure Clarkson will have a chat with him during the week. Still a quality player. :thumbsu:

Nightwolf
9 Jun 2008, 13:32
Williams had a pretty good second half when it counted. Lloyd was looking like a bloke with no idea what he was doing.

lethalselbow
9 Jun 2008, 13:35
Players who had less disposals than Williams on Saturday;

A.Monfries
S.Lonergan
P.Ryder
K.Reimers
A.Welsh
M.Lloyd
D.Hille
S.Lucas
L.Jetta
T.Bellchambers

Players who have kicked less goals than Williams this year;

EVERY SINGLE PLAYER ON THE BOMBERS LIST BAR ONE

Nice work :thumbsu:

F-ing lame thread.

Mr Lizard
9 Jun 2008, 13:48
LOL

fishfail. failguts.

fishguts
9 Jun 2008, 13:54
Players who had less disposals than Williams on Saturday;

A.Monfries Has been tagging players for the last few weeks
S.Lonergan In and under midfielder who I'll give you the benefeit of the doubt
P.Ryder Played defence ffs
K.Reimers You can have this one
A.Welsh Tagged mitchell out of it
M.Lloyd Ok you're comparing someone who played midfield according to one of your supporters to our FF?
D.Hille Very desperate
S.Lucas See Lloyd
L.Jetta You can have it
T.Bellchambers a 18 year old in his first game who played 20 minutes and you're comparing him to a 'midfielder' whose played 80 odd games, VERY DESPERATE

Players who have kicked less goals than Williams this year;

EVERY SINGLE PLAYER ON THE BOMBERS LIST BAR ONE

You were very desperate.

Mr Lizard
9 Jun 2008, 13:57
You were very desperate.

You are very fail.

fishguts
9 Jun 2008, 13:58
You are very fail.

You are very lame.

Mr Lizard
9 Jun 2008, 14:04
You are very lame.

Your thread is very lame.

Matthew Lloyd is very lame.

Matthew Knights is very lame.




fishguts = fail

aussieicon91
9 Jun 2008, 14:04
Players who had less disposals than Williams on Saturday;

A.Monfries
S.Lonergan
P.Ryder
K.Reimers
A.Welsh
M.Lloyd
D.Hille
S.Lucas
L.Jetta
T.Bellchambers

Players who have kicked less goals than Williams this year;

EVERY SINGLE PLAYER ON THE BOMBERS LIST BAR ONE
:thumbsu:

Completely owned.

cschreuder61
9 Jun 2008, 14:06
Oh dear, probably up there with the ten worst thread titles on bigfooty.

Parse
9 Jun 2008, 14:08
Do you want a shovel FAILguts or are you happy digging on your own?

I wish there was an animated fail stamp that could be used.

HolyWars
9 Jun 2008, 14:13
Fact: Mark Williams would be easily in Essendons best 22.

Rimbaz
9 Jun 2008, 14:45
Mark Williams would be the 1st name on their teamsheet each week!

Choota
9 Jun 2008, 14:47
Before one more Bomber fan writes something in this thread, just remember 1 thing. In the last 4 years, Matthew Lloyd has played 51 games for 158 goals. Mark Williams has played 50 games for 152 goals. You're calling one the worst player in the league and the other one of your greatest ever players?

What an embarrassing thread.:rolleyes:

flukeyluke
9 Jun 2008, 14:48
Lol @ fishguts :D

Its what your team is made up of buddy, nothing but fishguts.

rainman06
9 Jun 2008, 15:16
You can avoid the truth Tassie fans and compare his stats to Tom Bellchambers but the facts are that he is only in the side because guys at the other end of the scale are doing well enough to make his obvious ineptitude not so glaring.
If Hawthorn are going to win the flag this year he cannot be in the side. He is a waste of a spot in the 22 and has a despicably selfish attitude.

He is a dud and you all know it.

hawks_time
9 Jun 2008, 15:16
Mark Williams never played AFL did he? I thought he was just SANFL

You can avoid the truth Tassie fans and compare his stats to Tom Bellchambers but the facts are that he is only in the side because guys at the other end of the scale are doing well enough to make his obvious ineptitude not so glaring.
If Hawthorn are going to win the flag this year he cannot be in the side. He is a waste of a spot in the 22 and has a despicably selfish attitude.

He is a dud and you all know it.

You can also avoid the truth pointed out right here

Before one more Bomber fan writes something in this thread, just remember 1 thing. In the last 4 years, Matthew Lloyd has played 51 games for 158 goals. Mark Williams has played 50 games for 152 goals. You're calling one the worst player in the league and the other one of your greatest ever players?

XFactor1979
9 Jun 2008, 16:41
jarryn geary from saint kilda is quite useless

the name geary is useless in any field of sport, there was a useless player playing in the nba named "reggie" geary and he was a player of nbl calibre

"yes, reggie and jarryn geary's mum can call me up and fight for them for me"

Link_Wray
9 Jun 2008, 17:58
He isn't the worst player in the AFL. There are a few worrying signs though that are hard to ignore. His lack of defensive pressure when the ball isn't in his hands and his failure to put his body on the line (Once going for a pack mark with out stretched arms and the other when he just completely backed out of the contest). Doesn't like body contact or protecting his teammates in a marking contest.

Anyway they are only small issues and I'm sure Clarkson will have a chat with him during the week. Still a quality player. :thumbsu:


Well done Dustbin! You've somehow managed, against all odds, to actually BUY some of Robert Wall's drivel. If you paid attention to anything besides Wallsy and his insightful 15 second half time puff pieces you might have noticed Williams put his body on the line numerous times and get his team mates into the play with some skillful work in close.

The Dustbin
9 Jun 2008, 19:17
Well done Dustbin! You've somehow managed, against all odds, to actually BUY some of Robert Wall's drivel. If you paid attention to anything besides Wallsy and his insightful 15 second half time puff pieces you might have noticed Williams put his body on the line numerous times and get his team mates into the play with some skillful work in close.

Wrong.

I haven't even seen any footage of the game. My opinion was based on my observations from the stands. Truth hurts. ;)

Glorious couch life
9 Jun 2008, 19:28
Yep, below average player. I dunno why the selection committee picks him every week. Shows a lack of depth on our list I guess. There's just nobody else to choose from. We hawk fans can only be envious of how deep essendon's list runs. From Jarrod Atkinson to Jason Winderlich, the quality is... um, the quality is... as f__k it. YOUR WHOLE TEAM IS S__T!!!!!!! Get it through your thick head gayguts, Williams would be a walkup start in your best 22 - if he could get over the shame of fronting up with the assortment of human excrement parading as footballers known as the Essendon Football Club.

The Dustbin
9 Jun 2008, 19:37
Yep, below average player. I dunno why the selection committee picks him every week. Shows a lack of depth on our list I guess. There's just nobody else to choose from. We hawk fans can only be envious of how deep essendon's list runs. From Jarrod Atkinson to Jason Winderlich, the quality is... um, the quality is... as f__k it. YOUR WHOLE TEAM IS S__T!!!!!!! Get it through your thick head gayguts, Williams would be a walkup start in your best 22 - if he could get over the shame of fronting up with the assortment of human excrement parading as footballers known as the Essendon Football Club.

Atkinson is a rookie. ;)

:o

Glorious couch life
9 Jun 2008, 19:39
Atkinson is a rookie. ;)

:o

Good comeback - does he represent the EFC? The post covers every one of your players, in alphabetical order. Gibbon.

thecoastingcoaster
9 Jun 2008, 19:44
If Mark Williams is a code name for Shaun McManus, then I agree.;)

If not, it's a woeful trolling effort as inept as Essendons performance this season.

skipjack
9 Jun 2008, 19:59
If Hawthorn are going to win the flag this year he cannot be in the side. He is a waste of a spot in the 22 and has a despicably selfish attitude.

He is a dud and you all know it.

Not a dud. Just out of form.

Averaging 3 goals a game for the past 4 years.

Attitude a bit suspect, and more defensive pressure would be great.

But nowhere near a dud.

The Dustbin
9 Jun 2008, 20:08
Good comeback - does he represent the EFC? The post covers every one of your players, in alphabetical order. Gibbon.

Blah blah blah blah blah

Link_Wray
9 Jun 2008, 20:31
Wrong.

I haven't even seen any footage of the game. My opinion was based on my observations from the stands. Truth hurts. ;)

Yeah well I suggest you get better seats next time Dustbin, and maybe see if you can get a copy of the game, because you obviously have NFI mate! :thumbsu:

Frankston Rover
9 Jun 2008, 20:35
All year is inept performance after inept performance. Would Hawthorn supporters agree that he is currently the worse player in the comp? Flashback only a few weeks ago against Port, Did nothing all day, Cherry picks a goal, and goes on to be a cocky SOB even though he was probably worst on ground. Against the Bulldogs he got 6 touches and from the 1 behind. Just last Saturday, He was the worst on ground in a team that won by 51 points. Didn't chase and for a guy who plays as a forward pocket, not even one scoring shot. So over the last 4 weeks I'd say he's been worst on ground 3 times. Is he the worst player in the AFL.

Players who had less disposals than Williams on Saturday;

A.Monfries
S.Lonergan
P.Ryder
K.Reimers
A.Welsh
M.Lloyd
D.Hille
S.Lucas
L.Jetta
T.Bellchambers

Players who have kicked less goals than Williams this year;

EVERY SINGLE PLAYER ON THE BOMBERS LIST BAR ONE

Before one more Bomber fan writes something in this thread, just remember 1 thing. In the last 4 years, Matthew Lloyd has played 51 games for 158 goals. Mark Williams has played 50 games for 152 goals. You're calling one the worst player in the league and the other one of your greatest ever players?

Not only got your arse handed to you once but TWICE.

How embarrassing for you Fishguts. :o

Jonesy1987
9 Jun 2008, 20:39
Not only got your arse handed to you once but TWICE.

How embarrassing for you Fishguts. :o

Embarrassing is beating Essendon by only 51 points... Even Port Adelaide beat us by more... Ouch:D:D and you guys call yourselves contenders.

Link_Wray
9 Jun 2008, 20:45
Embarrassing is beating Essendon by only 51 points... Even Port Adelaide beat us by more... Ouch:D:D and you guys call yourselves contenders.

Christ, that sounds like something a Carlton supporter would say..
Are things so bad down at windy hill?

skipjack
9 Jun 2008, 20:46
Embarrassing is beating Essendon by only 51 points... Even Port Adelaide beat us by more... Ouch:D:D and you guys call yourselves contenders.

Great comeback. :)

Jonesy1987
9 Jun 2008, 20:48
Christ, that sounds like something a Carlton supporter would say..
Are things so bad down at windy hill?

All in good fun... actually its not too bad down here. We are crap now but at least we are finally rebuilding. Kinda nice to see what its like to develop talent instead of Sheedy drafting old duds.

browneyyy30
9 Jun 2008, 21:20
would fit in perfect at essendon
actually would b too good fa them atm
they are very ordinary

skipjack
10 Jun 2008, 00:36
All in good fun... actually its not too bad down here. We are crap now but at least we are finally rebuilding. Kinda nice to see what its like to develop talent instead of Sheedy drafting old duds.

Fair call, but Sheedy was the king of spin - he could talk up any performance, ladder position or player and everyone would believe him! :)

crawf_legend
10 Jun 2008, 01:16
What the f*cking f*ck are you on mate? He isnt having a very good return from injury but he is still great, he was pretty good in our midfield on the weekend.
He has recently been in the media, the whole 'choke' thing was blown way out of proportion, he apologized to those port pussies and they wouldnt accept it! The guy has had it tough and is still finding his feet.
What type of idiot would think he is the worst in the AFL?

Neville Bartos
10 Jun 2008, 01:42
Was watching Footy Classified or On The Couch (can't remember which one as they both have a good ex player (healy, lyon), a crap one (walls, archer) and a woman (Caro/Hutchy and Sheehan)) and they showed some highlights of Buddy's goals. The one where he strolls into the goalsquare from a handball was from Williams. He took on 2 Essendon defenders, won the hardball and dished it out to an open Franklin for a goal. Just one example of many unheralded things he did for once on the weekend. It just astonishes me how much better he is than that f___ pillow biter Reimers.... I mean it should be a war crime to mention these two in the same sentence unless it's "Williams runs past Reimers" or "Williams uses Reimers as a step ladder"

Jonesy1987
10 Jun 2008, 01:48
Was watching Footy Classified or On The Couch (can't remember which one as they both have a good ex player (healy, lyon), a crap one (walls, archer) and a woman (Caro/Hutchy and Sheehan)) and they showed some highlights of Buddy's goals. The one where he strolls into the goalsquare from a handball was from Williams. He took on 2 Essendon defenders, won the hardball and dished it out to an open Franklin for a goal. Just one example of many unheralded things he did for once on the weekend. It just astonishes me how much better he is than that f___ pillow biter Reimers.... I mean it should be a war crime to mention these two in the same sentence unless it's "Williams runs past Reimers" or "Williams uses Reimers as a step ladder"

Gotta love it, Reimers has already got under everyone skin. Gonna be a prick of a player :D:D. Already one of my favorites. BTW he will have a better career than Williams:p.

hawks_time
10 Jun 2008, 03:12
Gotta love it, Reimers has already got under everyone skin. Gonna be a prick of a player :D:D. Already one of my favorites. BTW he will have a better career than Williams:p.
Bookmarked for Reimers last game.

Jonesy1987
10 Jun 2008, 03:17
Bookmarked for Reimers last game.

Nice, hope it doesn't come back to bite me:thumbsu:

tazhawk
10 Jun 2008, 11:43
Embarrassing is beating Essendon by only 51 points... Even Port Adelaide beat us by more... Ouch:D:D and you guys call yourselves contenders.

And you guys call yourself a football team. :D

Essenscum bitches bending over once again. :)

DapperDon
10 Jun 2008, 11:50
Was watching Footy Classified or On The Couch (can't remember which one as they both have a good ex player (healy, lyon), a crap one (walls, archer) and a woman (Caro/Hutchy and Sheehan)) and they showed some highlights of Buddy's goals. The one where he strolls into the goalsquare from a handball was from Williams. He took on 2 Essendon defenders, won the hardball and dished it out to an open Franklin for a goal. Just one example of many unheralded things he did for once on the weekend. It just astonishes me how much better he is than that f___ pillow biter Reimers.... I mean it should be a war crime to mention these two in the same sentence unless it's "Williams runs past Reimers" or "Williams uses Reimers as a step ladder"

He must be awesome to compare him to a guy who's yet to play 15 games:o

Boyler_Room
10 Jun 2008, 14:37
OK then I'll go into further detail.

Williams had 15 disposals

#13 were uncontested
#6 of them were clangers
#Did not score

Compared to Lloyd

Lloyd had 9 disposals

#6 were uncontested
#4 were clangers
#kicked 2 goals

Compared to Lucas

Lucas had 6 disposals

#5 were uncontested
#0 clangers
# kicked 3.1

1. Williams didn't play forward for a lot of the game.
2. Williams passes the ball.

gopower
11 Jun 2008, 18:51
Total wanker (and I thought that before the choking signal) but good footballer.

hawkstars
11 Jun 2008, 19:44
All year is inept performance after inept performance. Would Hawthorn supporters agree that he is currently the worse player in the comp? Flashback only a few weeks ago against Port, Did nothing all day, Cherry picks a goal, and goes on to be a cocky SOB even though he was probably worst on ground. Against the Bulldogs he got 6 touches and from the 1 behind. Just last Saturday, He was the worst on ground in a team that won by 51 points. Didn't chase and for a guy who plays as a forward pocket, not even one scoring shot. So over the last 4 weeks I'd say he's been worst on ground 3 times. Is he the worst player in the AFL.
I would settle down if I was you. There are far worse players at the bombers. Realistically you have NO idea just like your coach.

rumblah
11 Jun 2008, 20:23
Embarrassing is beating Essendon by only 51 points... Even Port Adelaide beat us by more... Ouch:D:D and you guys call yourselves contenders.

You poor miserable fool.

We beat Collingwood by close to 10 goals, and they beat Geelong by what, 80 points?

So, that logic suggests we should absolutely SMASH Geelong.

But we all know thats not going to happen. :thumbsd:

Jonesy1987
13 Jun 2008, 00:12
You poor miserable fool.

We beat Collingwood by close to 10 goals, and they beat Geelong by what, 80 points?

So, that logic suggests we should absolutely SMASH Geelong.

But we all know thats not going to happen. :thumbsd:

Jesus you hawks get upset easily cant you take a joke you misreable old ____.

HolyWars
13 Jun 2008, 11:06
You can avoid the truth Tassie fans and compare his stats to Tom Bellchambers but the facts are that he is only in the side because guys at the other end of the scale are doing well enough to make his obvious ineptitude not so glaring.
If Hawthorn are going to win the flag this year he cannot be in the side. He is a waste of a spot in the 22 and has a despicably selfish attitude.

He is a dud and you all know it.

Duds dont kick 125 goals in 2 seasons. He will return to his best by the years end.

themuddy#3
13 Jun 2008, 11:37
shannon byrnes

Hodgepodge
13 Jun 2008, 11:40
Lloyd or Fraser Gehrig would have to be the two worst at the moment, they're one-dimensional and they suck at that dimension.

rumblah
13 Jun 2008, 12:39
Jesus you hawks get upset easily cant you take a joke you misreable old ____.

old?? Im 18 fool.

hawks_time
13 Jun 2008, 14:10
old?? Im 18 fool.
In his defence, he's 12 so you are kind of old.

rumblah
13 Jun 2008, 14:38
In his defence, he's 12 so you are kind of old.

Shouldn't he be in school then??? :confused:

fishguts
13 Jun 2008, 14:41
Shouldn't he be in school then??? :confused:

You'd think so.

Stard Picket
13 Jun 2008, 14:45
No one on the bombers list is better than willo therefore how could he be the worst in the AFL.

WILLO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lloyd>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Laycoockhead>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Stanton

Jonesy1987
13 Jun 2008, 16:43
old?? Im 18 fool.

Passing phrase no substance in it at all. Still take a joke not everything is serious...

Jonesy1987
13 Jun 2008, 16:44
In his defence, he's 12 so you are kind of old.

Wow you are a moron, considering I have the year of my birth in my Username...:rolleyes:

hawks_time
13 Jun 2008, 19:07
Wow you are a moron, it's a joke joyce.