View Full Version : Kick-In Strategy
Deenamite
9 Jun 2008, 19:36
Seriously, the days of huddles are long gone. Just pick up the bloody ball and kick it to someone free, keep the game moving. And please don't let Bell ever take a kick-out again.
master bate
9 Jun 2008, 20:08
Bell isn't great is he, I think we have been better than last year but we have a lot to learn, I see no reason why Garland, Warnock, Bell, Rivers and a lot of others can't take kick outs in the future but at the moment we might be better suited to leave it to Wheatley.
bloodpumpsRnB
10 Jun 2008, 01:12
Definately have to do something about our kick outs. A couple of times today we would have Bell or someone stand in the square for 20 seconds, then drop it on the ground for Wheatley so he would have to kick it straight away. It was a problem under Daniher, and I think it's gotten worse under Bailey. Ideally, I think, just have Wheatley roost it 65 metres into the centre square. Just get it out of defensive 50.
Flashhh
10 Jun 2008, 01:58
Definately have to do something about our kick outs. A couple of times today ....
Agree wholeheartedly with everything you have said.
Noticed them dropping the ball in the square for someone else to take the kick. It did come off at the City End when Macca dropped it, ran into space and Wheatley picked it up and kicked it to him but I dont want to be relying on that sort of sh!t to get it out of 50.
Travis used to be half decent at kicking out and Whelan took it a few times also but now there's no one unless you want Wheatley to try and kick it 80 metres.
But also the boys need to move a lot more and give the guy kicking in something to actually kick to.
bringbackschwarter5
10 Jun 2008, 11:33
The rest of the team are to blame for the kick in's today, not Bell or Wheatley. Everybody just seemed to stand in that huddle for about 20 seconds, and give them nothing
eliasd82
10 Jun 2008, 11:49
We haven't been able to effectively kick it in since I have been alive.. thats 26 years...
something really needs to be done about this.. I still partly blame Danihers 10 year reign for this problem..
We need someone like a Gilbee to bring it back in... Yze probably would have been the ideal person but his kicking in recent times has slipped... i think we need to persist with wheatley but geez he sometimes makes some shockers... maybe Petterd could be next in line???
yirra_kurl
10 Jun 2008, 23:11
The huddle has worked for you guys in previous games. Against collingwood they seemed to work it out fairly quickly by putting their men each side of the huddle and not picking up a specific opponent. Although all in all i think it wasn't too bad on monday. But there is a lot of work to be done still.
undies37
10 Jun 2008, 23:16
yea the huddle works if u do not wait to break when the umpire calls play on.
they did this several times on monday.
they just seem to break to late and thats why collingwood did it sooo well.
melbournemartin
10 Jun 2008, 23:21
We have a kick-in strategy?
dee-molishon
11 Jun 2008, 00:00
Couldnt agree more. Every other team in the league get a player (ANY FKN PLAYER!!) to grab a ball quickly and just kick it in fast before the opposition can set up a zone.
While we get a ball 10 seconds later after a behind, wait 5 more seconds then drop it in the goal square for someone else to kick it out.
Doesnt seem like rocket science to me, since we are so bad at them you would think we would get it moving quickly to stop the opposition zoning.
Supermercado
11 Jun 2008, 14:27
We've been shouse kicking in for ten years, what's different? At least now we don't have to watch ol' Laser Disposals Johnstone kicking it down the throat of the opposition.
Agree the huddle does work if they stick together. I do not why a player picks the ball up and waits for another player to come along and kick the ball in. What would help is if the player kicking preferably wheatley (can get distance and accuracy) he should be waiting on the goal line for all set shots stand by the bucket of footys and as soon the ball goes into the crowd grab the footy and kick it in. While the players has a kick for goal melbourne payers should be huddling in the centre of the ground.
They need more organisation.
JuveRule
12 Jun 2008, 14:36
We can't exactly have the players huddling at the top of the 50m arc otherwise the bloke having a shot for goal will just spot-up some unmanned teammate.
And i think there may be a rule in regard to the taking of another ball straight from the bucket...i think it refers to where the ball that was previously in play ends up, not sure though, can anyone clarify?
But yes, you'd think that after so long we'd be able to come up with some strategy, both offensively and defensively. The opposition always seems to be able to get two easy kicks out of their back half whereas we simply struggle with one.
We can't exactly have the players huddling at the top of the 50m arc otherwise the bloke having a shot for goal will just spot-up some unmanned teammate.
And i think there may be a rule in regard to the taking of another ball straight from the bucket...i think it refers to where the ball that was previously in play ends up, not sure though, can anyone clarify?
But yes, you'd think that after so long we'd be able to come up with some strategy, both offensively and defensively. The opposition always seems to be able to get two easy kicks out of their back half whereas we simply struggle with one.
I don't know the rule exactly but i think when the ball goes into the crowd thats when your allowed to get another ball and it has to be after the ball as cleared the fence or area. But more to the point we need to be more organised and effecient, waiting 10 seconds for a player to pick the ball of the ground and kick out is clearly not working.
davey_magik
12 Jun 2008, 19:32
What I don't get is what the players who were kicking out were thinking (Bell, never again mate, never again), we had the huddle in the centre but they didn't run, so why not bomb it into the huddle? We'd definitely outnumber the opposition in that area of the ground.
Kick-ins for Melbourne have been a problem for years. TJ wasn't the answer either, as Mercs mentioned he turned it over a fair bit trying to thread the needle.
McLean_4_Captain
12 Jun 2008, 19:37
We have a kick-in strategy?
stratˇeˇgy a plan, method, or series of maneuvers or stratagems for obtaining a specific goal or result
I saw no evidence of anything resembling that definition in anything that we did out of the goal square on monday.
Bailey seems like a smart bloke, but if he can't work out a half decent plan for kick-ins then he'll lose a lot of fans and quickly