Travis Cloke in trouble?

[Extend the Dukes]

Did anyone else see the Melbourne player(Warnock?) and Travis Cloke have a little wrestle today? Nothing sinister so far but then i noticed the dees player bleeding from his left eye. A replay clearly showed that Cloke headbutted him! Something the AFL doesnt take lightly.

Me thinks he deserves at least a week:p

[Brad Pearce]

Did anyone else see the Melbourne player(Warnock?) and Travis Cloke have a little wrestle today? Nothing sinister so far but then i noticed the dees player bleeding from his left eye. A replay clearly showed that Cloke headbutted him! Something the AFL doesnt take lightly.

Me thinks he deserves at least a week:p
Or else we can get past the whole "we need opposition key players out of the game in order to win" mindset and thump a full strength Collingwood side:)

[DaveyBlues]

Pretty poor to rely on suspensions, but hey, Travis Cloke probably jumped for joy when Bowzer got injured.

[Murphinator]

it would give us a greater chance of winning... it doesn't matter how good a team is, if a key player of the other team is out then you think yay, we have a better chance.

[gouldy_34]

yeah nahh. give it up.
if he gets a week, goodes should've gotten four. he was wrestling 3 players at one point and in that situation, arms elbows shoulders and heads get thrown around beyond the control of players, so someone is always bound to get a shy one everynow and then.

[Extend the Dukes]

Or else we can get past the whole "we need opposition key players out of the game in order to win" mindset and thump a full strength Collingwood side:)

Haha yea he played pretty ordinary today anyway. Waite can hold him

[griggisalegend]

hopefully he gets suspended for at least one match, he played VERY poorly today, not as much spectacular marks as usual, and i dont think he kicked a goal at all, so methinks hes up for a big one against us if he plays:)

[HBF]

Collingwood aren't as good as everyone thinks they are. So far this year, they have beaten Fremantle (MCG), Richmond (MCG), Essendon (MCG), Melbourne (MCG), West Coast (MCG), Geelong (MCG) and St.Kilda (TD). Aside from Geelong, they have not beaten anyone yet.

Lets see how they go when they face Western Bulldogs (TD rd 13), Sydney (Syd rd 14), Adelaide (MCG rd 15), Kangaroos (TD rd 16), Hawthorn (MCG rd 18), Port (AAMI rd 20), Sydney (TD rd 21) and Fremantle (S rd 22)

[Murphinator]

Well we know they got thumped by the Hawks already.
And the Roos beat them as well.

[Optimax]

Collingwood aren't as good as everyone thinks they are. So far this year, they have beaten Fremantle (MCG), Richmond (MCG), Essendon (MCG), Melbourne (MCG), West Coast (MCG), Geelong (MCG) and St.Kilda (TD). Aside from Geelong, they have not beaten anyone yet.

Lets see how they go when they face Western Bulldogs (TD rd 13), Sydney (Syd rd 14), Adelaide (MCG rd 15), Kangaroos (TD rd 16), Hawthorn (MCG rd 18), Port (AAMI rd 20), Sydney (TD rd 21) and Fremantle (S rd 22)
This works both ways HBF

You've beaten Collingwood(MCG), Melbourne(MCG), West coast(Subi), Fremantle(TD), Port(FB).

Yes you beat us but im hearing you are an outside chance for finals, now if we are overrated with four wins in a row(including a pumping of teh raining premeir who hadnt lost until then), then what does that make you guys? not so much an outisde finals chance.

Id also expect us to beat adelaide, Port, Freo and at least sydney once aswell, we should beat the roos who only just scraped past us last time.

Will be a good game none the less

[gouldy_34]

This works both ways HBF

You've beaten Collingwood(MCG), Melbourne(MCG), West coast(Subi), Fremantle(TD), Port(FB).

Yes you beat us but im hearing you are an outside chance for finals, now if we are overrated with four wins in a row(including a pumping of teh raining premeir who hadnt lost until then), then what does that make you guys? not so much an outisde finals chance.

Id also expect us to beat adelaide, Port, Freo and at least sydney once aswell, we should beat the roos who only just scraped past us last time.

Will be a good game none the less
i think he is implying that we are the underdog and that we dont have nething to lose. you do and besides the geelong you havent really proven yourselves at all...

[aaronmx]

I was at the game but i didnt see anything.

I was listening to the triple m commentry whilst watching the game and they seem to think that the incident will get looked at.

[bluegal1983]

I saw the headbutt as well. Will be interesting to see if he gets sighted.

[hellfire]

i think he is implying that we are the underdog and that we dont have nething to lose. you do and besides the geelong you havent really proven yourselves at all...

You can't just say "besides Geelong". We beat the best team in the competition by 86 points. We followed it up with a 100 point annihilation of West Coast, who are poor, but it's 100 points nonetheless. We are (or were, before today) in good form. We played poorly against the Roos, yet were comfortably beating them in the last quarter. Same goes for the Brisbane match. We just let both matches go in the last (disgusting last quarters, something I get angry about to this day).

Anyway, who cares, finals can be discussed when they come about.

[Optimax]

You can't just say "besides Geelong". We beat the best team in the competition by 86 points. We followed it up with a 100 point annihilation of West Coast, who are poor, but it's 100 points nonetheless. We are (or were, before today) in good form. We played poorly against the Roos, yet were comfortably beating them in the last quarter. Same goes for the Brisbane match. We just let both matches go in the last (disgusting last quarters, something I get angry about to this day).

Anyway, who cares, finals can be discussed when they come about.
what i was about to post.

Really we should be 9 and 2 except for two shitful last qtrs against teh roos and lions, you beat us everywhere last time but id expect us to play better this week and hoping for a win (no shit:p).

Good luck and see you at the game

[gouldy_34]

You can't just say "besides Geelong". We beat the best team in the competition by 86 points. We followed it up with a 100 point annihilation of West Coast, who are poor, but it's 100 points nonetheless. We are (or were, before today) in good form. We played poorly against the Roos, yet were comfortably beating them in the last quarter. Same goes for the Brisbane match. We just let both matches go in the last (disgusting last quarters, something I get angry about to this day).

Anyway, who cares, finals can be discussed when they come about.
anomaly

[gouldy_34]

what i was about to post.

Really we should be 9 and 2 except for two shitful last qtrs against teh roos and lions, you beat us everywhere last time but id expect us to play better this week and hoping for a win (no shit:p).

Good luck and see you at the game
its not about should, its about did. and guess what, you didnt!

[Optimax]

its not about should, its about did. and guess what, you didnt!
i know read the rest of my post, i said should and then explained we played two shit qtrs and lost both no excuses at all.

[Murphinator]

You can't just say "besides Geelong". We beat the best team in the competition by 86 points. We followed it up with a 100 point annihilation of West Coast, who are poor, but it's 100 points nonetheless. We are (or were, before today) in good form. We played poorly against the Roos, yet were comfortably beating them in the last quarter. Same goes for the Brisbane match. We just let both matches go in the last (disgusting last quarters, something I get angry about to this day).

Anyway, who cares, finals can be discussed when they come about.

You lost to Hawks by 10 goals. I consider Hawks to be the best side in the comp. The dogs beat the hawks, so it will be interesting how the Pies go against them.

[Pie eyed]

i think he is implying that we are the underdog and that we dont have nothing to lose. you do and besides the geelong you havent really proven yourselves at all...
I would be happy to concede that a team is only as good as it's last game.
That said. Collingwood are clearly the underdog.
Remembering of course that we have not beaten Melbourne on QB long weekend for four years and it was the highest score we have kicked against them since 2003.
Your blokes are over the moon with the win v Port and rightly so.

Which win has the more merit depends totally on where you sit. They both only earned 4 points and next week is a new book.

Cloke would be unlucky to even get cited I would think.

I know I would rather beat a "full side".

[bluegal1983]

I would be happy to concede that a team is only as good as it's last game.
That said. Collingwood are clearly the underdog.
Remembering of course that we have not beaten Melbourne on QB long weekend for four years and it was the highest score we have kicked against them since 2003.
Your blokes are over the moon with the win v Port and rightly so.

Which win has the more merit depends totally on where you sit. They both only earned 4 points and next week is a new book.

Cloke would be unlucky to even get cited I would think.

I know I would rather beat a "full side" .

Well Carlton doesn't have a full side so if you win, that'd be why ;) :p (jokes)

[Pie eyed]

Well Carlton doesn't have a full side so if you win, that'd be why ;) :p (jokes)

It should be a big, big crowd.
Let's hope it is a good game....Pies by 1 point.(the old saying etc etc.)
It's going to be a long week.

[bluegal1983]

It should be a big, big crowd.
Let's hope it is a good game....Pies by 1 point.(the old saying etc etc.)
It's going to be a long week.

Lets hope it's a big crowd but let's all hope it is Carlton taking away the 4 points! :D

[Blue History]

Gotta love Collingwood fans claiming that because they beat Geelong they are so much better than Carlton. Great teams like Geelong don't get smashed by 86 points just like that, obviously they were off their game that night, great teams don't capitulate like that. As for beating WC by 100 points....are you aware they are at rock bottom as a club and playing poorly against North...well i guess Carlton have played poorly for years now.

Like HBF said, apart from Geelong, Collingwood have proven nothing against better teams, their wins are against the bottom 5 teams, and struggled against the bottom team, if it wasn't for the 3rd quarter what would have happened??

Nobody here are saying Carlton are any better or world beaters, but to hear Collingwood supporters claim they are better than they are is very laughable...the fan who said they should be 9-2 is beyond help.

If Carlton make it a double this weekend, Collingwood are in serious doubt for serious finals contenders, as Carlton are missing many of their best 22, especially down back with Walker, Bower, Jammison all missing.

Will be a very interesting game!!

Please play Harry O on fev again, please!!! but if that fails then please play Natahan Brown....Fev needs a big day out and these two will help!!

[Doza]

Please play Harry O on fev again, please!!! but if that fails then please play Natahan Brown....Fev needs a big day out and these two will help!!

I think the more likely scenario is that they will play both on him :rolleyes:

[frantelle]

Gotta love Collingwood fans claiming that because they beat Geelong they are so much better than Carlton. Great teams like Geelong don't get smashed by 86 points just like that, obviously they were off their game that night, great teams don't capitulate like that. As for beating WC by 100 points....are you aware they are at rock bottom as a club and playing poorly against North...well i guess Carlton have played poorly for years now.

Like HBF said, apart from Geelong, Collingwood have proven nothing against better teams, their wins are against the bottom 5 teams, and struggled against the bottom team, if it wasn't for the 3rd quarter what would have happened??

Nobody here are saying Carlton are any better or world beaters, but to hear Collingwood supporters claim they are better than they are is very laughable...the fan who said they should be 9-2 is beyond help.

If Carlton make it a double this weekend, Collingwood are in serious doubt for serious finals contenders, as Carlton are missing many of their best 22, especially down back with Walker, Bower, Jammison all missing.

Will be a very interesting game!!

Please play Harry O on fev again, please!!! but if that fails then please play Natahan Brown....Fev needs a big day out and these two will help!!

come on credit where credit is due
we have just won 4 in a row the lsat time carlton achieved that was early 2001
no ur right geelong on an off nite would beat most teams and if not lose by a small amount..however they were pumped..and if u take the first 3minutes of the third quarter out of it we beat them by 104pts...undefeated to that point is hardly an 'off-night'
and if u had watched the brisbane and kangaroos game u would agree we more then wasted our chances and its own fault for our inaccuracy towards goals
we played saint kilda when they were still in the 4 so they were in form at the time

stop trying to pick through our matches and worry about urs...cause its been 7years since u guys last achieved wat we have done over the last month

ur wins have come against the bottom 4, and 5 of the bottom 6 not to mention u lost to essendon and richmond
so dont get your knickers in a knot about collingwood fans saying we are in better form then carlton, cause truth be told, we are

in saying that however everyone knows form/ladder position/ whos the better team doesnt seem to have much influence on carlton collingwood games and should be a good game

[Blue History]

come on credit where credit is due
we have just won 4 in a row the lsat time carlton achieved that was early 2001
no ur right geelong on an off nite would beat most teams and if not lose by a small amount..however they were pumped..and if u take the first 3minutes of the third quarter out of it we beat them by 104pts...undefeated to that point is hardly an 'off-night'
and if u had watched the brisbane and kangaroos game u would agree we more then wasted our chances and its own fault for our inaccuracy towards goals
we played saint kilda when they were still in the 4 so they were in form at the time

stop trying to pick through our matches and worry about urs...cause its been 7years since u guys last achieved wat we have done over the last month

ur wins have come against the bottom 4, and 5 of the bottom 6 not to mention u lost to essendon and richmond
so dont get your knickers in a knot about collingwood fans saying we are in better form then carlton, cause truth be told, we are

in saying that however everyone knows form/ladder position/ whos the better team doesnt seem to have much influence on carlton collingwood games and should be a good game

We lost to both RFC and Ess when we had even more players out than we do know, and you'll see over the next month, we'll beat both of them this time round as most players will be back and players like Judd and Stevens are fitter, both had limited preseasons which was evident in those games.

I didn't say we had beaten anybody high up the ladder, but apart from Geelong neither have Collingwood, so what is your point, if you are prepared to put Carlton down then back it up and put Collingwood down as they are no better, but feel free to come back after player the Hawks again, the Dogs, the Swan, the Crows and then Geelong again, reality might hit then.

I'll give you credit for the Geelong win, the intensity was fantastic.

Just on what Carlton have done in the past 7 years we all know that, but 2008 is a new start for Carlton, totally new coach, game plan, staff, and players...i don't expect to be anything liek we were for the past 7 years.

I have no problems with Collingwood fans saying they have better form thatn Carlton as that is true when you look at games won over the past 4 games, but there is a difference between form and being as good as you think you are.

[Bluebear]

yeah nahh. give it up.
if he gets a week, goodes should've gotten four. he was wrestling 3 players at one point and in that situation, arms elbows shoulders and heads get thrown around beyond the control of players, so someone is always bound to get a shy one everynow and then.

I wouldn't base it on what Goodes would get.

If Goodes instead of Hall had of thrown that punch on Staker he might have got 1 week.

The tribuneral clearly are looking at the damage inflicted, which, to a large extent is not determined by the intention of the guilty party.

Goodes hit was very similar to Burgoynes. One player gets up, the other unconscious and going into a flexor tone on the field.

Goodes gets 1 week, but off with the early plea, and Burgoyne gets 3.

Go figure.

Goodes last year punched a Dees player in the back. Got off no worries. Gehrig would not get the same compassion.;)

At least Fev got off.

[frantelle]

We lost to both RFC and Ess when we had even more players out than we do know, and you'll see over the next month, we'll beat both of them this time round as most players will be back and players like Judd and Stevens are fitter, both had limited preseasons which was evident in those games.

I didn't say we had beaten anybody high up the ladder, but apart from Geelong neither have Collingwood, so what is your point, if you are prepared to put Carlton down then back it up and put Collingwood down as they are no better, but feel free to come back after player the Hawks again, the Dogs, the Swan, the Crows and then Geelong again, reality might hit then.

I'll give you credit for the Geelong win, the intensity was fantastic.

Just on what Carlton have done in the past 7 years we all know that, but 2008 is a new start for Carlton, totally new coach, game plan, staff, and players...i don't expect to be anything liek we were for the past 7 years.

I have no problems with Collingwood fans saying they have better form thatn Carlton as that is true when you look at games won over the past 4 games, but there is a difference between form and being as good as you think you are.
u said before about us saying we are in ebtter form because beat geelong
u dont need to worry about what we are doing and instead of analysing us u should analyse yourselves
im sure there were some melbourne supporters there today who were incredibly confident they would pump us...i dont care no one does...dont let it get to u
dont worry about us...enjoy ur victory and celebrate that...thats all im saying

i cant recall seeing any posts about carlton being confident on the collingwood board (i may be wrong) but a majority of ppl dont give a shit

im just saying u dont need to take offence to it...cause at the end of the day its probably some pimpley little kid who lives 500km from u

[HBF]

This works both ways HBF

You've beaten Collingwood(MCG), Melbourne(MCG), West coast(Subi), Fremantle(TD), Port(FB).

Yes you beat us but im hearing you are an outside chance for finals, now if we are overrated with four wins in a row(including a pumping of teh raining premeir who hadnt lost until then), then what does that make you guys? not so much an outisde finals chance.

Id also expect us to beat adelaide, Port, Freo and at least sydney once aswell, we should beat the roos who only just scraped past us last time.

Will be a good game none the less

Yes it does, but we finished 15th last year, and Collingwood made the Prelim Final.

Also, beating West Coast and Port away is huge for us, considering we hadn't won out of Victoria for ages.

[Palmer Stoat]

Please play Harry O on fev again, please!!! but if that fails then please play Natahan Brown....Fev needs a big day out and these two will help!!

I think they probably will. And if we get pantsed in the middle a second time, Fev will probably kick another bag. That's the key. Our midfield work rate and pressure last time was so pathetic that just about any fullback would've have struggled to keep Fevola in check.

[Juddrockz]

I think they probably will. And if we get pantsed in the middle a second time, Fev will probably kick another bag. That's the key. Our midfield work rate and pressure last time was so pathetic that just about any fullback would've have struggled to keep Fevola in check.
Hey Palmer Stoat,how did Dale Thomas get his nickname "daisy"??? I asked on the Collingwood board and nobody replied.Any idea?? just curious.
Hope the game is a good shoot out!!

[parrot]

T...including a pumping of teh raining premeir who hadnt lost until then), then ....

Yep, a real Collingwood supporter. :)

[Mayesy_23]

Cloke offered a reprimand. So now we just have to worry about who gets him.

[Charbzilla]

So its on for young and old this sunday aye.
i reckon Setanta on Cloke.

you know what i'ld love to see? Unpredictability in Ratts' approach. i.e. Coming off his first goal for the season --- Waite CHF just this once! ...damnit! Comeonnnnn!

[Bluebear]

Rhys-Jones must be doing the match review this weekend.:cool:

[igt22265]

The level two misconduct charge was assessed as reckless, low impact and high contact by the match review panel.

So you can dish out a 'Liverpool Kiss' spilt a blokes head open,
be found guilty, then get a reprimand
because there are degrees of impact to be considered?

Roll on Sunday.

[Bluebear]

The level two misconduct charge was assessed as reckless, low impact and high contact by the match review panel.

So you can dish out a 'Liverpool Kiss' spilt a blokes head open,
be found guilty, then get a reprimand
because there are degrees of impact to be considered?

Roll on Sunday.

Aparently it wasn't a headbutt..........he just used the head to make contact.

:confused::confused:

Barry Hall didn't punch Staker either..........he just used the fist to make contact.:rolleyes:

[a1118374]

thats fine rather play them with him. finals or not its about development. Your dont develop against rubbish

[Charbzilla]

so we wont be developing against the Pies then

[gouldy_34]

Hey Palmer Stoat,how did Dale Thomas get his nickname "daisy"??? I asked on the Collingwood board and nobody replied.Any idea?? just curious.
Hope the game is a good shoot out!!
they call him that because of his hair.

and... because he's a girl:D

[Murphinator]

they call him that because of his hair.

and... because he's a girl:D

This is probably the real reason.

[Murphinator]

so we wont be developing against the Pies then

gold:D:thumbsu:

[Optimax]

Hey Palmer Stoat,how did Dale Thomas get his nickname "daisy"??? I asked on the Collingwood board and nobody replied.Any idea?? just curious.
Hope the game is a good shoot out!!
Daisy is what they call kids named dale in the country well any where for that matter

[The Cranium]

Daisy is what they call kids named dale in the country well any where for that matter

http://www.surnameweb.org/Dale/surname-origin.htm

Even though its for the surname you'll get the gist.

[Bluebear]

I heard this AM that the Pies are considering challenging the Cloke reprimand.

I saw the vision this AM and from the angle I saw there really didn't seem to be anything in it...........but if he fails to have the reprimand quashed, does he risk being suspended?

I don't understand, other than to get rid of the overhanging points, why you would challenge when you haven't been suspemded, and risk coping a week.

Is there something here that I have missed? Seems weird.:confused: