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dee-molishon
10 Jun 2008, 18:24
Lets get him at the end of the season. Could be the answer to our tall forward crisis and could be a reasonable price compared to others who may be on the market like kozi.

Would think a second or third rounder could land him and even better if he is out of contract in the psd.

Was very impressive against richmond on the weekend, reads the play well but most importantly has a great set of hands and is a beutiful set shot from 55m out inwards.

With Adelaide having so many good forwards such as porplyzia, burton, douglas, tippett, hentchsel (to come back), goodwin and dare i say it FKN SCOTT THOMPSON!! (did anyone see the reply before the game on the big screen monday? Thompson killing it in the red and blue, made me so depressed).

Jericho only seems to get a game when there is an injury or a suspension and could be looking for a more permanant role and i would love for that to be us. Even James Sellar could be worth looking at.

Any thoughts?

Deestroy
10 Jun 2008, 18:33
My thoughts are that Jericho sucks, despite his recent form.

James23
10 Jun 2008, 18:36
sellar + jericho for your first rounder?? :P

OR

jericho for a 2nd rounder

*runs for cover*

dee-molishon
10 Jun 2008, 18:37
My thoughts are that Jericho sucks, despite his recent form.

Yes i would have said that before his games this year as well. But he would only be on around 150 -200k i would think. Pretty inexpensive risk to take compared to your kozi's.

crows98
10 Jun 2008, 18:38
Daniel Bell for Luke Jericho.

Or Luke Jericho and our second round pick (24 - 33) for your second round PP (pick 18)

dee-molishon
10 Jun 2008, 18:39
sellar + jericho for your first rounder?? :P

OR

jericho for a 2nd rounder

*runs for cover*

forget the first rounder there is no way in hell we give that up.

make it third and fourth rounder for jericho and we have a deal.

dee-molishon
10 Jun 2008, 18:43
Daniel Bell for Luke Jericho.

Or Luke Jericho and our second round pick (24 - 33) for your second round PP (pick 18)

crows fans do you know if he is still under contract at the end of the year? And what sort of money is he on?

cheers

master bate
10 Jun 2008, 18:45
He's not really a tall forward though, he's more a medium sized player who is injury prone and only really seems to kick goals when they are up and running. I wouldn't want him at all (all though a loan of him for the rest of the season would be ok).

James23
10 Jun 2008, 18:45
forget the first rounder there is no way in hell we give that up.

make it third and fourth rounder for jericho and we have a deal.

hahah tongue was firmly in cheek.

i hope his form continues throughout the year cos he'd be good trade bate for us.

as it currently stands, id be happy trading him for an upgrade in our 2nd round pick as we have him covered with up-coming fowards / wingman.

however if he keeps kicking bags of goals, then it would be a waste trading him away after 6 years of underachieving crap

crows98
10 Jun 2008, 18:45
crows fans do you know if he is still under contract at the end of the year? And what sort of money is he on?

cheers

Contract would be up this year and wouldn't be on much (just above the league minimum wage)

James23
10 Jun 2008, 18:46
crows fans do you know if he is still under contract at the end of the year? And what sort of money is he on?

cheers

out of contract at the end of this year

crows98
10 Jun 2008, 18:46
He's not really a tall forward though, he's more a medium sized player who is injury prone and only really seems to kick goals when they are up and running. I wouldn't want him at all (all though a loan of him for the rest of the season would be ok).

He is a poor mans Russell Robertson.

dee-molishon
10 Jun 2008, 18:53
He is a poor mans Russell Robertson.

russell robertson was a poor mans russell roberston this year.

i would say jericho at least has 7 years left in him as aposed to robbo who may be finished god forbiding.

crows98
10 Jun 2008, 18:57
russell robertson was a poor mans russell roberston this year.

i would say jericho at least has 7 years left in him as aposed to robbo who may be finished god forbiding.

With all due respect to Luke Jericho he may be finished at the end of this season.

I was talking in terms of talent - not a great leap and mark (but good) and a less than adverage set shot. As a 3rd or 4th forward he would be good but would be a crap number 1 forward line player. He would be smashed every week on the better defenders.

But i like Luke Jericho - but hes not that number 1 forward line player you need.

davey_magik
10 Jun 2008, 20:01
Jericho = Dud.

Don't even think about it.

McLean_4_Captain
10 Jun 2008, 20:28
russell robertson was a poor mans russell roberston this year.

i would say jericho at least has 7 years left in him as aposed to robbo who may be finished god forbiding.

I commend your idea, some stuff out of left field could be just what we need to do this year, but i don't think this is it.

And you seem to be really pushing sh!t up-hill with the idea because you can't even get any support from crows fans.

I really don't think Jericho is the man for us, he's not big enough to play KP and he would just add to our glut of players around about 192cm. Bate, Dunn, Garland, Newton, etc. Except that he's shorter and older. And not as good as any of those (i'll hold judgement on Juice until he's played some more, but he's got much greater potential).

dee-molishon
10 Jun 2008, 20:29
Jericho = Dud.

Don't even think about it.

Thanks for sorting that out for me:thumbsu:

why do people think im saying hes going to be the messiah? Im saying for a guy on 150-200k a year he would be handy.

we have miller, he is on higher pay than jericho and we gave up a 2nd round pick for p.j which hasnt exactly been a brilliant move either.

Im talking about taking a calculated risk on a player with potential for a small risk money wise and trade wise.

Deestroy
10 Jun 2008, 20:41
With him out of contract we could just pick him up in the draft with our 2nd pick.

Our 2nd pick in the pre-season draft that is.

McLean_4_Captain
10 Jun 2008, 21:44
Thanks for sorting that out for me:thumbsu:

why do people think im saying hes going to be the messiah? Im saying for a guy on 150-200k a year he would be handy.

we have miller, he is on higher pay than jericho and we gave up a 2nd round pick for p.j which hasnt exactly been a brilliant move either.

Im talking about taking a calculated risk on a player with potential for a small risk money wise and trade wise.

It's not about him being the messiah, as i said above i don't think he's anything we don't already have in Bate, Dunn, etc, except that he's older.

It's not even about what we'd have to pay him, i don't think he's worth giving up the chance to draft a young kid, so i wouldn't give up any picks inside the picks we want to use. If there's no one better in the PSD then he might be worth a chance, but even then i'd be sceptical as he is too similar to other players we have.

TelkoTheGreat
10 Jun 2008, 21:55
Not big enough for a KPP we already have wona, Maric, Davey along with Robbo, Slyvia, Bate & Dunn. We need big Key forwards more

davey_magik
10 Jun 2008, 22:07
Thanks for sorting that out for me:thumbsu:

why do people think im saying hes going to be the messiah? Im saying for a guy on 150-200k a year he would be handy.

we have miller, he is on higher pay than jericho and we gave up a 2nd round pick for p.j which hasnt exactly been a brilliant move either.

Im talking about taking a calculated risk on a player with potential for a small risk money wise and trade wise.

Whose spot would he take in our forwardline?

Bartram_Class
10 Jun 2008, 22:31
No good if you ask me.

Ryan Murphy if anyone please, or lets be sneaky and jag Jason Porplyzia.

Tommyneu
10 Jun 2008, 22:36
Thanks, but no thanks. Isn't the answer to our problems. So he kicked 5 against Richmond, and 4 against Carlton. In a good team like Adelaide he will flourish, in a sh*t team like Melbourne he will be a nobody ala Dunn or Newton.

CaptainDavey
10 Jun 2008, 23:05
Isn't Mark LeCras from West Coast a Victorian? Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he's definitely worth a look. Not a tall by any means but he can play up forward, in the middle and has been injured for the majority of this year. I think WC rate him highly but I think we could get him for the right price...Maybe....

master bate
11 Jun 2008, 11:57
At the moment for next year with Robbo under an injury cloud, Holland to have retired and Neitz already retired, Juice is the only genuine goal kicking full forward on our seior list (Zomer on the rookie list could count). If you look at our other tall positions we have Miller and Bate at CHF and Rivers, Warnock, Carroll, Garland and Frawley down back, along with Martin and McNamara. In the ruck we have White, PJ, Jamar, Meesen and big Spencer on the rookie list.

What I'm saying is that it is definitely a position that the club would be justified in trading for, especially because we look to have a list under 25 who can play some good footy. We could get a Buddy/Roughead combo but even they will take 3 years to be playing consistent good footy at the best, and most likely closer to 6. The question is who can we get who is cheap but also can be a goal kicker. Tim Boyle is the first who comes to mind but maybe we could go with someone younger with more upside.

CaptainDavey
11 Jun 2008, 12:09
At the moment for next year with Robbo under an injury cloud, Holland to have retired and Neitz already retired, Juice is the only genuine goal kicking full forward on our seior list (Zomer on the rookie list could count). If you look at our other tall positions we have Miller and Bate at CHF and Rivers, Warnock, Carroll, Garland and Frawley down back, along with Martin and McNamara. In the ruck we have White, PJ, Jamar, Meesen and big Spencer on the rookie list.

What I'm saying is that it is definitely a position that the club would be justified in trading for, especially because we look to have a list under 25 who can play some good footy. We could get a Buddy/Roughead combo but even they will take 3 years to be playing consistent good footy at the best, and most likely closer to 6. The question is who can we get who is cheap but also can be a goal kicker. Tim Boyle is the first who comes to mind but maybe we could go with someone younger with more upside.

Good post. Beau Dowler on the main board has been suggested but Hawthorn look adamant in keeping him. Off the top of my head I can think of...

Tim Boyle
Beau Dowler
Ryan Murphy
Jarred Brennan (Recently signed a deal?)

Tommyneu
11 Jun 2008, 14:02
Good post. Beau Dowler on the main board has been suggested but Hawthorn look adamant in keeping him. Off the top of my head I can think of...

Tim Boyle
Beau Dowler
Ryan Murphy
Jarred Brennan (Recently signed a deal?)

Beau Dowler is terrible. Last year when I consistently attended Box Hill games , he was that one player on the field that even the Hawk supporters loved to pay out. His set shots are woeful and his tendency to drift out of games is disgusting and regular. I will be livid if we pursue him.

Supermercado
11 Jun 2008, 14:29
I'd rather sign his brother Chris

RandB
11 Jun 2008, 14:36
Luke Jericho gets dropped on and off by Craig because he does not follow team rules and I think there may be some off field issues as well but I am not too sure about that. Some Crows supporters might know about that for sure.

Having said that I am not convinced that we have the young players to bring on for all the up forward places so we may have to go out and get at least 1 player from another team.

Capitalist
11 Jun 2008, 14:37
My thoughts are that Jericho sucks, despite his recent form.

I'm on the Melbourne board so i'm going to be nice

my point would be- he has lasted 6 years on the Crows list, which by comparision to the Melbourne list is VASTLY superior in terms of actual playing talent and list management

So i ask you this - if he has lasted this long at the Crows - why wouldn't he make your list for atleast 1 season ? For whats its worth you paid a 3 rd rounder for Meesen who has shown less than Jericho in his first few seasons.....atleast Jericho can play decent 2nds football :thumbsu:

but back to reality, the crows can afford to have him as a project player, I don't think Melbourne can

edit - thats not meant to be an insult either - you really need to be concentrating on players for the next 10 years not the next 2 or so (or none at all) and you need a David Neitz player not a Luke Jericho player.

StingaArmstrong
11 Jun 2008, 14:53
Troy Chaplin anyone?

Deestroy
11 Jun 2008, 15:32
I'm on the Melbourne board so i'm going to be nice

my point would be- he has lasted 6 years on the Crows list, which by comparision to the Melbourne list is VASTLY superior in terms of actual playing talent and list management

So i ask you this - if he has lasted this long at the Crows - why wouldn't he make your list for atleast 1 season ? For whats its worth you paid a 3 rd rounder for Meesen who has shown less than Jericho in his first few seasons.....atleast Jericho can play decent 2nds football :thumbsu:

but back to reality, the crows can afford to have him as a project player, I don't think Melbourne can

edit - thats not meant to be an insult either - you really need to be concentrating on players for the next 10 years not the next 2 or so (or none at all) and you need a David Neitz player not a Luke Jericho player.
Oh the old 'I'm going to be nice but we are better than you post'.

Remaining on a list for a long period without doing much doesn't indicate quality, if anything it indicates poor list management.

Let me run through your logic for you with an example.

The Brisbane Lions, who I'm sure you'll agree have had a far superior list than Adelaide had a player called Aaron Shattock on their list for 5 years. He was even a premiership player.

Now by your logic, because he was able to stay on Brisbane's great list for so long (and he even won a premiership) that somehow gives you as an Adelaide supporter less right to call him a dud because your team is inferior.

He was a dud.

Luke Jericho in my opinion is a dud, and I don't care if he plays for Geelong or Fremantle as that has no relevence to my opinion.

Can I ask if you were a Matthew Smith fan too?

That is all.

davey_magik
11 Jun 2008, 17:16
I'd be all up for pursuing one of Boyle/Ryan Murphy. Both have shown they have talent and wouldn't cost that much.

Not Jericho though. He's a medium forward and Bate and Green > Jericho in that role.

dee-molishon
11 Jun 2008, 19:41
Good post. Beau Dowler on the main board has been suggested but Hawthorn look adamant in keeping him. Off the top of my head I can think of...

Tim Boyle
Beau Dowler
Ryan Murphy
Jarred Brennan (Recently signed a deal?)

have to worry about murphy if he cant break into the freo team with the state they are in cd. Bit like newton with us i suppose, potenial galore but is he committed?

Tim Boyle is definately a person i would look at.

Add another to the list although he could be a bit expensive: Mitchell Clark

master bate
11 Jun 2008, 20:23
I was thinking Chris Dawes from Collingwood, he's a big unit, but I don't know where he is at right now and he wouldn't come cheap.

Mitch Clark can't kick at all, so whilst he'd look good and take a few grabs, I don't think we could train him how to kick it through the big sticks. I think he'll become a CHF or a backmen in time.

Hopefully one of these drafts we take the Lachy Henderson instead of the Cale Morton, and it ends up working for us!

PsyCrow23
12 Jun 2008, 05:42
our 1st rounder + jericho for Rivers!

Capitalist
12 Jun 2008, 19:06
Oh the old 'I'm going to be nice but we are better than you post'.

Remaining on a list for a long period without doing much doesn't indicate quality, if anything it indicates poor list management.

Let me run through your logic for you with an example.

The Brisbane Lions, who I'm sure you'll agree have had a far superior list than Adelaide had a player called Aaron Shattock on their list for 5 years. He was even a premiership player.

Now by your logic, because he was able to stay on Brisbane's great list for so long (and he even won a premiership) that somehow gives you as an Adelaide supporter less right to call him a dud because your team is inferior.

He was a dud.

Luke Jericho in my opinion is a dud, and I don't care if he plays for Geelong or Fremantle as that has no relevence to my opinion.

Can I ask if you were a Matthew Smith fan too?

That is all.

:D

my post was shite, it was perhaps the worst attempt at shit stirring i've ever made.

Aaron Shattock wasn't a dud - he just went to a dud team eventually.

Matthew smith, argh I feel for that guy 5 years on a list for nothing, Jericho at least plays the game.

Saying that a player that stays on the list long term doesn't always mean poor list management there is a number of reasons
Jericho for example was out for a year with a should injury, but he was a project player hence the extended term.
Other players stay long term because there is someone in front of them i.e 3rd ruckman maybe on the list for 4-5 years before becoming regular.

but anyway, my post sucked, you should delete it really.
Go Melbourne :thumbsu:

Deestroy
12 Jun 2008, 22:50
my post was shite
Well there was never really any question there.

saj_21
13 Jun 2008, 10:49
Would rather go after boyle, but this is the last year for before the draft is severly affected by the 17th team, i say keep all our draft picks and possibly trade for more.